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November 12, 2024, 07:20:18 AM
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OK, Saylor has placed his bet on the best financial asset, but to be honest, I don't care.
Michael Saylor changed his mind on Bitcoin from against it to believe it and it takes him several years to realize good things and potentiality of Bitcoin. It's certainly that he did not change his mind because of a dream to be rich or whatever and he actually changed his mind after doing his due diligent research on Bitcoin and finding some great things in it.

This process does not make his investment in Bitcoin as a Bet, it's never a bet in Michael Saylor's thinking.

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Even if the Bitcoin price hits 100K USD, there will still be Bitcoin haters complaining about "the Bitcoin price bubble" and spreading all kinds of FUD.  
It will hit $100,000 and only time matters. From about $90,000 to $100,000, it's not too far to the target price, 10% rise and it will be easy reached if market has a short squeeze.

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November 12, 2024, 07:35:25 AM
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It's impressive to see how MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy has paid off. Despite the skepticism from critics, Bitcoin continues to show its potential. Saylor's belief in Bitcoin has certainly transformed MicroStrategy, demonstrating the power of long-term vision in business. It's a fascinating case of how a bold bet on a volatile asset can pay off especially for those who truly believe in its future.

It's an example for everybody else to witness, and because of the rally for BTC, more and more people and bigger entities will be interested in BTC.
Hopefully, not only in a profit-wise sense  Roll Eyes Because BTC is much more than that.

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November 12, 2024, 07:37:34 AM
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Even if the Bitcoin price hits 100K USD, there will still be Bitcoin haters complaining about "the Bitcoin price bubble" and spreading all kinds of FUD.  
It will hit $100,000 and only time matters. From about $90,000 to $100,000, it's not too far to the target price, 10% rise and it will be easy reached if market has a short squeeze.

Yes, the only thing is the correction or some of them, in fact, that would take place, to take out the people longing BTC all the way up and get their positions for themselves, however, it wouldn't change the outcome of the rally, which is, the biggest ATH to this day.
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November 12, 2024, 07:43:09 AM
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OK, Saylor has placed his bet on the best financial asset, but to be honest, I don't care.
Michael Saylor changed his mind on Bitcoin from against it to believe it and it takes him several years to realize good things and potentiality of Bitcoin. It's certainly that he did not change his mind because of a dream to be rich or whatever and he actually changed his mind after doing his due diligent research on Bitcoin and finding some great things in it.

This process does not make his investment in Bitcoin as a Bet, it's never a bet in Michael Saylor's thinking.

It's a calculated risk, so to speak, and he is willing to put his faith into something, and that speaks volumes.
 Roll Eyes

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November 12, 2024, 07:54:04 AM
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It's an example for everybody else to witness, and because of the rally for BTC, more and more people and bigger entities will be interested in BTC.
Hopefully, not only in a profit-wise sense  Roll Eyes Because BTC is much more than that.
What did you write when the trend went in the other direction? It is very interesting to reason after the fact. In 2021, there was a huge collapse of Bitcoin and the bearish trend continued for a long time. Then many wrote about the complete collapse of the coin. It was not so long ago to pick up and read posts about it. What was happening at that moment in the companies that invested in this crypto? Remember? But I remember. They went bankrupt. Others began to lay off employees en masse. Therefore, you do not need to be so confident in this matter.

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November 12, 2024, 07:56:43 AM
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Bitcoin has disappointed bitcoin critics like Peter Sheriff and Warren Buffett. Those that hold their coins are not disappointed. I can remember Peter Sheriff saying bitcoin is backed by nothing that its price is going to zero. But bitcoin is over $80000 right now.

I doubt these two ever dreamt that Bitcoin will surpass 80K in a small span of time. If everything goes as smooth as it is looking now Bitcoin may go beyond 90K by the month end. This is how Bitcoin has always reacted to those who have only spread hate against it.

I was reading an article recently wherein they said if Germany had not sold it's 50KBTC at a value of 54K then they would have made a profit in billions with the current price of Bitcoin.

Usually, bigger entities don't see BTC for what it is and don't wait for the situation to change - they cash it out just like they bought it  Grin Or due to regulations, they need to.
Those who dig deeper know what awaits them for holding.
And, as fruktik said - there may be a correction, a big one at that, that would swoop everybody in an instance.

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November 12, 2024, 10:04:54 AM
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Usually, bigger entities don't see BTC for what it is and don't wait for the situation to change - they cash it out just like they bought it  Grin Or due to regulations, they need to.
Those who dig deeper know what awaits them for holding.
And, as fruktik said - there may be a correction, a big one at that, that would swoop everybody in an instance.

I get your point but those who are into Bitcoin are now laughing on the action taken by Germany. Countries like El Salvador are enjoying the profits gained from thier Bitcoin holdings.

For everything that goes up it is certain at some point it will go down. A correction is coming but it won't be coming this year. I feel it will happen next year as it happened in 2018.

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November 12, 2024, 11:03:06 AM
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I get your point but those who are into Bitcoin are now laughing on the action taken by Germany. Countries like El Salvador are enjoying the profits gained from thier Bitcoin holdings.
I don't think it is worthy to laugh anyone or any government by purchasing, holding or selling bitcoin. They as either individual investors, miners or governments, have their own reasons to do what they did and if they felt good with what they already did, we as observers, outsiders have no reason to laugh them.

Like I have no reason to laugh Laszlo Hanyecz or any Bitcoin ogs because they sold bitcoins years ago. The market needs both buyers and sellers and German government is like one of many sellers or buyers in the market, it's natural.

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November 12, 2024, 06:24:58 PM
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I get your point but those who are into Bitcoin are now laughing on the action taken by Germany. Countries like El Salvador are enjoying the profits gained from thier Bitcoin holdings.
Germany is a big and rich country, with a very good economy, unlike El Salvador which is a poor country with a struggling economy. Germany does not have to hold BTC if they don't want to, and selling it does not affect them in any way, or as you think; they didn't even buy those coins to begin with, it was coins they confiscated from people and firms and they decided to sell it when they did.

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November 12, 2024, 06:47:01 PM
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Bitcoin has disappointed bitcoin critics like Peter Sheriff and Warren Buffett. Those that hold their coins are not disappointed. I can remember Peter Sheriff saying bitcoin is backed by nothing that its price is going to zero. But bitcoin is over $80000 right now.

Bitcoin also helped Microstrategy Inc MSTR to increase in price and value. Micheal Saylor is a good business man.
MS surely saw the potential in BTC, although it won't be easy for him to trust BTC in start (for sure) but he was really good and stick to new innovation even his company been investing on core dev to create more projects some critics that these projects will just make BTC sub products more centralized and indirectly making BTC centralized but still progress is progress and that's all we should focus on at the moment!

20 billion profit is just too good, and MS is really worth it. The amount is too big, and it also shows DCA over a long period of time can make you enough money, but you must have enough capital too. Big numbers bring big, and vice versa. I hope someday I will become a millionaire via BTC.

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November 12, 2024, 07:26:00 PM
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Germany is a big and rich country, with a very good economy, unlike El Salvador which is a poor country with a struggling economy. Germany does not have to hold BTC if they don't want to, and selling it does not affect them in any way, or as you think; they didn't even buy those coins to begin with, it was coins they confiscated from people and firms and they decided to sell it when they did.

What are you drinking?
The whole Europe is getting fucked up because of the Ukraine war. That is the only reason why they sold those Bitcoin on open market. They as in the German government never used secondary market to sell your BTC50K.

I am suprised to see support from guys like you. Earlier I saw another high ranking member going all about, the need for Germany to sell those BTC. Stop bugging me and understand the reason why Germany failed to nail it.

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You can easily understand what this thread is about from the topic title. You can read it in details yourselves: https://cointelegraph.com/news/microstrategy-bitcoin-portfolio-surpass-20-billion

Bitcoin has disappointed bitcoin critics like Peter Sheriff and Warren Buffett. Those that hold their coins are not disappointed. I can remember Peter Sheriff saying bitcoin is backed by nothing that its price is going to zero. But bitcoin is over $80000 right now.

Bitcoin also helped Microstrategy Inc MSTR to increase in price and value. Micheal Saylor is a good business man.
MicroStrategy owns 279,420 Bitcoins and that's phenomenal numbers if we keep in mind that MicroStrategy started saving in Bitcoins in August 2020. Micheal Saylor is not only a good businessman but a good and wise risktaker. He understood the negative side effect of long-term inflation of fiat. What's the best option for any company to save its reserves long-term? A deflationary currency and Bitcoin is a pure definition of such one.

I think for a moment what would happen if MicroStrategy started Bitcoin investment in 2016. Collecting 280K Bitcoins since 2020 is a phenomenal achievement, he deserves a merit for that but there is another side of him. I remember he said that he wants to keep those coins like Satoshi, i.e. to turn these coins into dead coins. To be honest, I find it very strange and stupid but it's a well-known fact that rich people have strange thoughts too.

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I could remember when Microstrategy where buying bitcoin in intervals and enriching their portfolio, they had a lot of critics and mocking them to risk losing a lot of money as bitcoin will become worthless in the future. Micheal Saylor still didn’t mind any of those critics and continued accumulating more and more bitcoin by taking advantage of the dips. This is just few years later and they are already in big profit in their investment in bitcoin. Only the patient and trustworthy ones can have a conviction on bitcoin to do well after so many bearish moments in the market before breaking the all time high and setting a new one now.











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What are you drinking?
Water.
The whole Europe is getting fucked up because of the Ukraine war. That is the only reason why they sold those Bitcoin on open market. They as in the German government never used secondary market to sell your BTC50K.
I never made any mention of the 'market' in which the coins were sold, that is not even the point here, that is if you read my post before this rant. The German government is bound by law to sell assets recovered in criminal cases, if the assets are volatile and can lose some of its value, BTC is volatile and that is why they sold. People are talking about how much they could have made if they were still holding, what if the price fell and then they still had to sell it at a loss.
I am suprised to see support from guys like you. Earlier I saw another high ranking member going all about, the need for Germany to sell those BTC. Stop bugging me and understand the reason why Germany failed to nail it.
What support are you talking about, i am not from Germany, i don't care what their government does, i only care about BTC. Stop ranting and understand what my point is clearly.

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OK, Saylor has placed his bet on the best financial asset, but to be honest, I don't care.
Michael Saylor changed his mind on Bitcoin from against it to believe it and it takes him several years to realize good things and potentiality of Bitcoin. It's certainly that he did not change his mind because of a dream to be rich or whatever and he actually changed his mind after doing his due diligent research on Bitcoin and finding some great things in it.

This process does not make his investment in Bitcoin as a Bet, it's never a bet in Michael Saylor's thinking.

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Even if the Bitcoin price hits 100K USD, there will still be Bitcoin haters complaining about "the Bitcoin price bubble" and spreading all kinds of FUD.  
It will hit $100,000 and only time matters. From about $90,000 to $100,000, it's not too far to the target price, 10% rise and it will be easy reached if market has a short squeeze.

I think MS had a moment of realisation a few years ago which made him become
a doubter to an absolute 101% Bitcoin guru.

MS has been able to convey to anyone willing to listen what Bitcoin can offer
everyone from now into the future.

The best analogy he used was the Block of Ice melting in the back yard in terms
of FIAT.



In terms of other doubters, I believe that in time they will all come around and realise
they need to have Bitcoin.

Usually, bigger entities don't see BTC for what it is and don't wait for the situation to change - they cash it out just like they bought it  Grin Or due to regulations, they need to.
Those who dig deeper know what awaits them for holding.
And, as fruktik said - there may be a correction, a big one at that, that would swoop everybody in an instance.

I get your point but those who are into Bitcoin are now laughing on the action taken by Germany. Countries like El Salvador are enjoying the profits gained from thier Bitcoin holdings.

For everything that goes up it is certain at some point it will go down. A correction is coming but it won't be coming this year. I feel it will happen next year as it happened in 2018.

The German government by law are not allowed to make profits from the
proceeds of crime and that goes for the Bitcoin they sold - by law they had to
make that move.

Its only a matter of time before all countries start buying Bitcoin especially
if Trump starts doing it.

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Michael Saylor not only buys real bitcoins, his company also issues stocks and bonds. He is an experienced businessman from Wall Street and seeks to buy assets not with his own money, but by attracting funds from others.

Few people have understood the latest move he has made, which has turned his company from an intelligence business software company to a bitcoin derivative product development company, in the same way Rockefeller treated oil to obtain the derivatives gasoline, diesel or kerosene.

What he is doing is borrowing fiat, in a smart way with a good debt to equity ratio and at a very low interest rate of less than 1% (which in itself means making money on inflation) to generate yield on bitcoin.

If it succeeds, which everything looks like it will, this will be studied in economics and business schools.

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You can easily understand what this thread is about from the topic title. You can read it in details yourselves: https://cointelegraph.com/news/microstrategy-bitcoin-portfolio-surpass-20-billion

Bitcoin has disappointed bitcoin critics like Peter Sheriff and Warren Buffett. Those that hold their coins are not disappointed. I can remember Peter Sheriff saying bitcoin is backed by nothing that its price is going to zero. But bitcoin is over $80000 right now.

Bitcoin also helped Microstrategy Inc MSTR to increase in price and value. Micheal Saylor is a good business man.
Wont really be believing into those words specially negative ones with those billionaires on which we dont even know that they've been holding Bitcoin in silence and really just that pretending that they are against with it.

I wont really be that surprised that one day they will really be that become that pro-Bitcoin and admitted that they had bought tons of it and planning to hold for long term. One of the most common behavior of these billionaires or institutions is that they dont really like on getting caught on what they are doing but instead they do just accept that they might look bad in the eyes of public but secretly trying out to accumulate
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The bad thing about having these institutions being accumulating tons of coins is that they can dump it anytime whenever the time is right.

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November 13, 2024, 05:52:09 AM
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You can easily understand what this thread is about from the topic title. You can read it in details yourselves: https://cointelegraph.com/news/microstrategy-bitcoin-portfolio-surpass-20-billion

Bitcoin has disappointed bitcoin critics like Peter Sheriff and Warren Buffett. Those that hold their coins are not disappointed. I can remember Peter Sheriff saying bitcoin is backed by nothing that its price is going to zero. But bitcoin is over $80000 right now.

Bitcoin also helped Microstrategy Inc MSTR to increase in price and value. Micheal Saylor is a good business man.
Microstrategy deserve some applause because they surprised everyone with their unwavering faith in bitcoin. From no where they have come to dominate the bitcoin market, taking exemplary position in the affair of anything that represent bitcoin. They have shown people the art of wealth building their dogged and resilient investment in bitcoin. Now those who openly criticized bitcoin can hide their faces in shame because they have been wrong all along.

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November 13, 2024, 07:23:23 AM
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You can easily understand what this thread is about from the topic title. You can read it in details yourselves: https://cointelegraph.com/news/microstrategy-bitcoin-portfolio-surpass-20-billion

Bitcoin has disappointed bitcoin critics like Peter Sheriff and Warren Buffett. Those that hold their coins are not disappointed. I can remember Peter Sheriff saying bitcoin is backed by nothing that its price is going to zero. But bitcoin is over $80000 right now.

Bitcoin also helped Microstrategy Inc MSTR to increase in price and value. Micheal Saylor is a good business man.
Microstrategy deserve some applause because they surprised everyone with their unwavering faith in bitcoin. From no where they have come to dominate the bitcoin market, taking exemplary position in the affair of anything that represent bitcoin. They have shown people the art of wealth building their dogged and resilient investment in bitcoin. Now those who openly criticized bitcoin can hide their faces in shame because they have been wrong all along.

More big guys are coming to see the beauty of BTC and try to get a fish from the lake with it.
Alas, it's inevitable that with time going on, more and more funds from bigger entities and smaller ones will pour into BTC. And it will be done for long-term profits only.

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November 13, 2024, 07:25:44 AM
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You can easily understand what this thread is about from the topic title. You can read it in details yourselves: https://cointelegraph.com/news/microstrategy-bitcoin-portfolio-surpass-20-billion

Bitcoin has disappointed bitcoin critics like Peter Sheriff and Warren Buffett. Those that hold their coins are not disappointed. I can remember Peter Sheriff saying bitcoin is backed by nothing that its price is going to zero. But bitcoin is over $80000 right now.

Bitcoin also helped Microstrategy Inc MSTR to increase in price and value. Micheal Saylor is a good business man.
Wont really be believing into those words specially negative ones with those billionaires on which we dont even know that they've been holding Bitcoin in silence and really just that pretending that they are against with it.

I wont really be that surprised that one day they will really be that become that pro-Bitcoin and admitted that they had bought tons of it and planning to hold for long term. One of the most common behavior of these billionaires or institutions is that they dont really like on getting caught on what they are doing but instead they do just accept that they might look bad in the eyes of public but secretly trying out to accumulate
not until on the moment that they had accumulated enough and then dump in one go.

The bad thing about having these institutions being accumulating tons of coins is that they can dump it anytime whenever the time is right.

Institutions will have regulations imposed on them, as far as I think and know. About the dumping of their coins.
About the rich people getting some BTC - they would be only a fracture and won't make that of a difference, in my opinion.
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