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November 17, 2024, 05:32:48 PM
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Baloney.

Folks, the only theory that makes sense so far is that "Satoshi" was an worker, or group of wokers at the CIA or NSA.

That's the only thing that can explain the fact that "Satoshi" continues to sit on $200B in Bitcoin without selling it.

The only other explanation is that he died suddenly and in a way that absolutely nobody knew what he did or who he was. But this is extremely unlikely: dying suddenly like that is statistically very unlikely, and it's even more unlikely that there would be nobody around him who could at least have a guess that he might be Satoshi.

Now imagine you are the worker at the CIA/NSA who decided, one day, to create Bitcoin as a honeypot project. Both of these agencies have plenty of personnel on the payroll who could do it, and somebody working there would probably have no problem convincing their boss they be allowed to work on this project because presumably it would have upsides for the agency.

Now imagine that worker started Bitcoin, and then in grew... and grew... and grew...

Now what do you do? First of all, you can't sell your Bitcoin (it's not "yours", it belongs to the US government... sorta). And selling it would absolutely expose you and the secret project since and lump of money like that would need to be reported to Congress (even a small amount money, like a few million way back when, would need to be reported and would compromise the secret).

So you keep the Bitcoin, you disappear your public avatar, and make like the project never existed, keeping the project as one of the country's deepest-held secrets.

That's the only theory I've ever seen that explains everything we know about Satoshi--besides the one that I think is very unlikely.

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November 17, 2024, 05:41:52 PM
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Probably another grift, but I'm just posting this to see you guys' opinion about it.

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He met Satoshi in 1993?

What’s the point of saying this?

What’s his angle and scam here?

Never heard of this guy before until now.

And so the curiosity drives on, 😏 the cases of people claiming to have met or known Satoshi is now something of a mere joke as so many people just wants to feed up that curiosity.  Although both Micheal Saylor and others are not some kind of expert when it comes to this issue but the fact that what the guy is saying is full of crabs just makes people's opinion of him stand, I mean how would you even say that Satoshi comes to you sometimes in the dream.😅 Am very certain this isn't the last person who would claim to see or even claim to be Satoshi himself and all these claims lack hard evidence to back it up.

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November 17, 2024, 05:43:45 PM
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So, there's more to this story of Scottie Pippen. He has tweeted some good prediction that did happened although on the exact date but with the price that he has mentioned. Now, he has met Satoshi in 1993? only him can tell the truth, maybe true, maybe for the sake of attention.
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November 17, 2024, 06:28:02 PM
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Just like Joan9269 said all these really don't matter. besides those that actually know Satoshi would not want to come out publicly to announce it because of the negative things it packs. The truth is many people that fall for these kind of awkward news really don't understand the concept of bitcoin and how it works. The fact is Satoshi being called a pseudenonymous entity sends a certain information.

Though the internet isn't 100% certain about it, there are actually conspiracies that Satoshi isn't a single person and it all seems to make sense since bitcoin seems too complex for a single person to create alone. It's possible Satoshi was simply a group with "Satoshi" as the head.

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November 17, 2024, 07:06:18 PM
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November 17, 2024, 07:15:41 PM
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In my opinion anyone may be right saying they met Satoshi Nakamoto, but may not actually know him as a brain behind bitcoin. because he or they chose to remain anonymous. Over the years most people have came up with some speculation that they knew who Satoshi is. some even claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but all appears to be false, only to attract attention and recognition.

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November 17, 2024, 08:53:02 PM
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Don't feed the troll. He obviously did it for the temporary noise.

LMAO! It was too harsh to spit that horseshit in front of Saylor. Grin

Now imagine you are the worker at the CIA/NSA who decided, one day, to create Bitcoin as a honeypot project.
What do you mean as a "honeypot project"? A honeypot is usually when you design an environment that is used by hackers, for their operator to study and analyze their behavior. For example, Cloudflare could be a honeypot, because it is extensively presented in every page nowadays, and could collaborate with the government to provide valuable information from cyber attacks.

I don't see how this analogy would apply to a decentralized currency that comes with privacy features, if desired. If it was created by the NSA, wouldn't they disable things like SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY, that allow privacy techniques like coinjoin to be implemented?

 
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November 17, 2024, 08:56:04 PM
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There have been so many claims from people who say they have met, befriended or known Satoshi. Basically, none of this has any authentic evidence, it's just stories that may be true or false. But the point is, even if those were true, there would be no impact on Bitcoin, because i believe Bitcoin will belong to everyone, and it seems that will become increasingly clear in the future.

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November 17, 2024, 09:09:35 PM
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Saw this earlier today. He's famous former-NBA player apparently. Have you seen Saylor's reaction? https://x.com/TheBTCTherapist/status/1857870178090103038

I have also seen some people in the comments saying that he actually rugpulled his fans. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously if that's the case;

Saylor was like WTF and then turned away from him and heard that Satoshi came to him in a dream and Saylor had to take another look at this dreamer. It was double WTF in 10 seconds.

Please... If someone said to me he met Satoshi, I'd want more information. Then he'd say in 93... How do you even know the guy you met in 93 was Satoshi? I bet that in 93 the guy wasn't even planning on using that nickname on this forum.

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We all have no idea if he’s telling the truth or not. But even if it’s true, still no one will care. If his purpose of telling it now, especially to the bitcoiners is to lure us in the future like what he did to his old fans before, then he is not in the position to do that or let’s say, claiming about Satoshi is never new to us. Unless if the real Satoshi comes out  and defend your claim, which I think is far from possible, we will believe on what this dude is saying.

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We all have no idea if he’s telling the truth or not. But even if it’s true, still no one will care. If his purpose of telling it now, especially to the bitcoiners is to lure us in the future like what he did to his old fans before, then he is not in the position to do that or let’s say, claiming about Satoshi is never new to us. Unless if the real Satoshi comes out  and defend your claim, which I think is far from possible, we will believe on what this dude is saying.

Just think of the motives why he is claiming this, whether true or not. If you have no other intentions, you will just be grateful that you have met such person. And if you truly believe his ideas, you can take advantage of this market.
Many people have claimed of such, and yet, up until now, Satoshi himself doesn't want to reveal himself. So let's respect this decision and be contented for what we have. After all, we are already reaping the benefits of his invention in this humanity. Also, there's no benefit of this claim, what it would do to the community now? Or can it elevate the btc price level in the market? I don't think so.

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November 17, 2024, 10:50:52 PM
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Tbh, I'm no longer intrigued by all these claims of people about being related to or have been in contact with Satoshi in the past only now that Bitcoin is a global movement. Anybody that says such now is simply chasing clout and garner as much attention to themselves which doesn't make any sense when you come to think about it. If he met Satoshi in 1993, how does that story benefit the average bitcoin holder? It doesn't

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November 17, 2024, 11:36:12 PM
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So, there's more to this story of Scottie Pippen. He has tweeted some good prediction that did happened although on the exact date but with the price that he has mentioned. Now, he has met Satoshi in 1993? only him can tell the truth, maybe true, maybe for the sake of attention.
Even if he has made some good predictions in the past about the price of bitcoin, that does not still prove that what he is postulating is true. I can't even for one day agree to those words; there are people who could have come up with such lies, and it will be a bit convincing. 
 
So let's assume he actually knew who Satoshi is and they were friends. What happened over these years? Why did it take him so long to come up with such a crap story? Well,  I can't find any suitable answer other than to say that he's just seeking attention, which he's probably getting because he's now trending online with such a statement.

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November 18, 2024, 01:05:35 AM
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Now imagine you are the worker at the CIA/NSA who decided, one day, to create Bitcoin as a honeypot project.
What do you mean as a "honeypot project"? A honeypot is usually when you design an environment that is used by hackers, for their operator to study and analyze their behavior. For example, Cloudflare could be a honeypot, because it is extensively presented in every page nowadays, and could collaborate with the government to provide valuable information from cyber attacks.


A honeypot can be anything that attracts the entities that the CIA wants to attract so they can monitor them in some way.

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I don't see how this analogy would apply to a decentralized currency that comes with privacy features, if desired. If it was created by the NSA, wouldn't they disable things like SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY, that allow privacy techniques like coinjoin to be implemented?

Bitcoin was originally conceived as a public ledger, so that right there makes it pretty easy to track by authorities. Yes, you can use things to thwart that tracking, but a) that wasn't really invented until later, so maybe "Satoshi" didn't think of that when they first created it; b) the act of using tradecraft alone is often all the CIA needs to get the information they need.

To be clear here, my theory very much depends on the actor(s) in question not thinking everything through, and creating something they did not exactly intend to create.

It's just a theory, but I think it's the best one so far.

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November 18, 2024, 02:52:25 AM
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He doesn't know how to distinguish someone.

Maybe He means Hal Finney because Hal created CRASH at that year. and Scottie unintentionally met him and they talked about it.

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November 18, 2024, 03:19:15 AM
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Heh, it would put Scotties knickers in a very tight twist to know he's being referred to as 'some dude'..  Grin Love it! Cheesy

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In my opinion anyone may be right saying they met Satoshi Nakamoto, but may not actually know him as a brain behind bitcoin. because he or they chose to remain anonymous. Over the years most people have came up with some speculation that they knew who Satoshi is. some even claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but all appears to be false, only to attract attention and recognition.

I mean for him to say he met Satoshi in 1993 just brings attention to the fact that Satoshi wasn't even Satoshi in 1993 and therefore discredits this guy's claims and makes him look like he doesn't know what he's talking about, at least that's what I gather from this. Does anyone else feel this way? Surely there are folks that know Satoshi and who he is but they probably don't also know that he is the creator of Bitcoin. And if its a group surely people would know them individually but never that they were in part or fully Satoshi. Satoshi wouldn't be that stupid. Why go through great lengths to keep your identity a secret only to have your real identity known & potential to be a wild card that could compromise you in the future. Unless someone organically figured it out, I feel like Satoshi just wouldn't be taking those type of risks. One of my favorite quotes by Ben Franklin. "Three can keep a secret if the other two are dead". I also do wonder if Satoshi has any skeletons in his closet to keep his identity a secret, its a possibility.

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Who were the cryptographers/computer scientists during 1993 in Seattle? Because let's pretend that it was true, that Scottie Pippen actually met Satoshi during that year. The best computer scientists in that region of the United States were probably working in Microsoft in Redmond, or teaching Computer Science in schools like the University Of Washington? Satoshi programmed the first implementation of Bitcoin in Windows which makes it a curious choice.

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It possible he met with Satoshi some years ago either in primary school or they live in the same society in their childhood before Satoshi later became who he is or who they are today,but it will not convince or change people to believe him because many people have came up with different lies to tell people that they are Satoshi the BTC founder. My observation, is that the man is trying to make some Bitcoiners around him to know that he have influence in the pumping and dumping of BTC price just to convince some of them that lack the knowledge of BTC because it will be hard for him to convince people that have the knowledge of BTC in the industry.

 If I see any message like this on social media or this forum, what will come into my mind, the person is a scammer trying to scam people because claiming to met Satoshi will not make people to believe whatever you are going to advertise or showcase to them without genuine proof.
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So, there's more to this story of Scottie Pippen. He has tweeted some good prediction that did happened although on the exact date but with the price that he has mentioned. Now, he has met Satoshi in 1993? only him can tell the truth, maybe true, maybe for the sake of attention.
Do you think scottie was smart enough to met satoshi back then in 1993? Probably I'll say pippen is a weak guy whose wife left him and started dating Jordan's son, also refused the invitation by Kim jong Un from north korea while he had opportunity to visit there but later on rodman went N.K. I've seen twice, thrice post of him on Twitter claiming that satoshi came in his dream and told him that blah blah blah about bitcoin future, i don't remember but yeah he gave the actual date that bitcoin will reach ath or something (whatever happened/'ll/s that is only an imposter prophecy for the audience) and probably those dreams are day dreamed after a one cocaine snort.
I would set aside the personal matters and won't describe him as weak just because of that. I never knew him personally but only in the TVs during his ball career.
But with these tweets, it could just be a bait for him to gain more relevance because we're in a bull run. A man like him transitions into a celebrity and would things to remain relevant.

So, there's more to this story of Scottie Pippen. He has tweeted some good prediction that did happened although on the exact date but with the price that he has mentioned. Now, he has met Satoshi in 1993? only him can tell the truth, maybe true, maybe for the sake of attention.
Even if he has made some good predictions in the past about the price of bitcoin, that does not still prove that what he is postulating is true. I can't even for one day agree to those words; there are people who could have come up with such lies, and it will be a bit convincing. 
 
So let's assume he actually knew who Satoshi is and they were friends. What happened over these years? Why did it take him so long to come up with such a crap story? Well,  I can't find any suitable answer other than to say that he's just seeking attention, which he's probably getting because he's now trending online with such a statement.
That's just a story that only him knows the real details, himself can only tell such stories and it's up to the readers whether they'll believe him or not, to his truth or to his lies.
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