Anyone here brave enough to borrow money for gambling to fulfill their dreams?

[STT]

Bravery is completely framing it wrongly, its amplifying risk of a negative outcome & is why I would avoid borrowing as a starting point.   Ideally we only borrow for essentials and then only when the original plan didnt work out.
  
  My attitude to gambling would be as a leisure activity which does have cost but is perfectly fine as a past time with spare earnt cash; any surprise otherwise to profits is a nice bonus not to be lent upon as required as borrowing would suggest.   Requiring a profit or win is where I'd have to worry more which would spoil it for me personally.

[junder]

When someone has a narrow mind, sometimes they dare to take risks by borrowing money and hoping to win many times over at the gambling table so they can return the loan, there is no other way than borrowing money because they do not have any source to gamble because their main goal is to be able to make money quickly without having to bother starting a business or working. But this really does lead someone to their own grave because if they lose, it will only burden themselves even more and finally do forbidden things like running away or failing to pay loans and there are also those who commit suicide because they cannot pay loans, so we should avoid gambling if we really do not have money rather than having to borrow money but there is no guarantee that we can return it.

I thought this might be almost the same as a crime where some say that crime occurs not because of intention but because of opportunity and maybe people who borrow money to gamble are like that where they have the right opportunity at that time. Sometimes we have to be able to digest something well so that everything is clear, but borrowing money to gamble should not be tolerated anymore because in my opinion it is wrong behavior.

exactly what you said, it can be said that those who borrow money to gamble are like digging their own grave, because most likely what will happen is only losing what they bet. Therefore, we must be able to allocate the amount that we can afford to lose and that must use our own money, not other people's money.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

 so sometimes they don't know when they borrow to gamble and they don't know exactly what they're doing when it come to the aspect of ignoring for a day, that's why we need to understand gambling is a game of opportunity and we don't need to be over depressed over gambling, when your excited to participate in the gambling you will not know when you will borrow to make gamble, the people I know that always think of borrowing funds to gamble is beginners in the gambling.

It's kinda weird that someone (an addicted gambler) would borrow money to gamble without even realizing that they have done so. I don't believe that anyone would do that without knowing, it's just lack of self control that can cause it. They know when they are taking the loan but can not stop themselves from it, while some people are just purposely taking the risk,  perhaps they have other means of paying back.

[sompitonov]

When someone has a narrow mind, sometimes they dare to take risks by borrowing money and hoping to win many times over at the gambling table so they can return the loan, there is no other way than borrowing money because they do not have any source to gamble because their main goal is to be able to make money quickly without having to bother starting a business or working. But this really does lead someone to their own grave because if they lose, it will only burden themselves even more and finally do forbidden things like running away or failing to pay loans and there are also those who commit suicide because they cannot pay loans, so we should avoid gambling if we really do not have money rather than having to borrow money but there is no guarantee that we can return it.

I thought this might be almost the same as a crime where some say that crime occurs not because of intention but because of opportunity and maybe people who borrow money to gamble are like that where they have the right opportunity at that time. Sometimes we have to be able to digest something well so that everything is clear, but borrowing money to gamble should not be tolerated anymore because in my opinion it is wrong behavior.

exactly what you said, it can be said that those who borrow money to gamble are like digging their own grave, because most likely what will happen is only losing what they bet. Therefore, we must be able to allocate the amount that we can afford to lose and that must use our own money, not other people's money.

Yes, I also think that you shouldn't borrow, because it will almost always turn out badly for us, or if we lose we won't know what to do, or the interest for using the debt will be huge.

There are stories about how some people take money from their parents unnoticed so that they can give it back when they win, of course the story is like a movie script, only in real life it doesn't end with the credits from the movie. Usually they lose and don't know what to do. Or they have a plan for winning, but they don't make one for losing, and then they cry.

[Huppercase]

It's kinda weird that someone (an addicted gambler) would borrow money to gamble without even realizing that they have done so. I don't believe that anyone would do that without knowing, it's just lack of self control that can cause it. They know when they are taking the loan but can not stop themselves from it, while some people are just purposely taking the risk,  perhaps they have other means of paying back.

Seems you haven't seen an addicted person before be it anything, it could be alcohol or cigerate or weed, it's not funny when one is addicted, they do things out place and things that are not normal. The surprising thing is that some know that they are addicted but don't know how to reduce or come out of that addiction. In my opinion, if you are addicted to gambling and you are making figures, I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you keep making money.

However, in most cases it's not always like that, they don't make money from gambling and at the same time, they can't quit. They can borrowed money to stap on any game and the foolish idea in their head is they always think they can make money from any game, they don't know when to called a spade a space. This is how bad addiction can make a person become.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Sometimes people call brave those who borrow money to play in a casino, for me that is not something that should be done, it has many risks, it is something that I do not agree with nor would I ever recommend doing, because it brings problems, the most likely thing is that that money will be lost, I do not deny, it can be won or multiplied, but it is something that I would not trust.

For me the philosophy of lending money is due to the fact that we need the money now and that we have the capacity to pay the interests and the capital obviously, but that is something that must always be considered, a person who lends money to play in a casino generally does not have how to respond, so they are things that must be considered.

[junder]

Yes, I also think that you shouldn't borrow, because it will almost always turn out badly for us, or if we lose we won't know what to do, or the interest for using the debt will be huge.

There are stories about how some people take money from their parents unnoticed so that they can give it back when they win, of course the story is like a movie script, only in real life it doesn't end with the credits from the movie. Usually they lose and don't know what to do. Or they have a plan for winning, but they don't make one for losing, and then they cry.

Maybe borrowing from someone you know like a friend or family member will not have any interest, but nowadays many people borrow money online and not just for gambling. In my environment, many people borrow money online and sometimes some of them are late in paying or cannot pay at all and it is clear that this type of loan has interest, so when they are late in paying or cannot pay, the interest can swell to be bigger and that will put extra pressure on them if they do not pay it off immediately and may make them stressed.
I myself have a principle not to borrow money if it is not because of an urgent situation.

[ethereumhunter]

Sometimes people call brave those who borrow money to play in a casino, for me that is not something that should be done, it has many risks, it is something that I do not agree with nor would I ever recommend doing, because it brings problems, the most likely thing is that that money will be lost, I do not deny, it can be won or multiplied, but it is something that I would not trust.

For me the philosophy of lending money is due to the fact that we need the money now and that we have the capacity to pay the interests and the capital obviously, but that is something that must always be considered, a person who lends money to play in a casino generally does not have how to respond, so they are things that must be considered.

Borrow money for other things besides of using for gambling can be acceptible because we can be in a situation where we really don't have money to fills that so we borrow money. But many people are trying to thinks that will be the same situation when they need money to keep playing gambling so they borrow the money. That will be a mistake because borrow money for playing gambling will not recommended so we must not use that way to fills our gambling activity.

If we have a dream to achieve a goals in gambling, we must reconsider that will not easy to reach. Gambling is just for fun and not for earn money so we must not trying so hard and let the luck comes to help us.

[sompitonov]

Yes, I also think that you shouldn't borrow, because it will almost always turn out badly for us, or if we lose we won't know what to do, or the interest for using the debt will be huge.

There are stories about how some people take money from their parents unnoticed so that they can give it back when they win, of course the story is like a movie script, only in real life it doesn't end with the credits from the movie. Usually they lose and don't know what to do. Or they have a plan for winning, but they don't make one for losing, and then they cry.

Maybe borrowing from someone you know like a friend or family member will not have any interest, but nowadays many people borrow money online and not just for gambling. In my environment, many people borrow money online and sometimes some of them are late in paying or cannot pay at all and it is clear that this type of loan has interest, so when they are late in paying or cannot pay, the interest can swell to be bigger and that will put extra pressure on them if they do not pay it off immediately and may make them stressed.
I myself have a principle not to borrow money if it is not because of an urgent situation.

In fact, all this shows how easy it is to find yourself in a difficult situation while making conscious actions, but you need to understand that only the player is responsible for this and no one else. Somehow he got the idea to play for money that is not his. Why did he stop, only because he wants to win back, but I want to say that you should never try to do this, this is what breaks our calm and planned life. In general, this all looks like consistent steps that do not need to be taken and our game will be clean and painless, at least so that later we will have to deal with problems for years, I personally do not want this. Therefore, I prefer to play calmly and without unnecessary rash actions.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

It's kinda weird that someone (an addicted gambler) would borrow money to gamble without even realizing that they have done so. I don't believe that anyone would do that without knowing, it's just lack of self control that can cause it. They know when they are taking the loan but can not stop themselves from it, while some people are just purposely taking the risk,  perhaps they have other means of paying back.

Seems you haven't seen an addicted person before be it anything, it could be alcohol or cigerate or weed, it's not funny when one is addicted, they do things out place and things that are not normal. The surprising thing is that some know that they are addicted but don't know how to reduce or come out of that addiction. In my opinion, if you are addicted to gambling and you are making figures, I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you keep making money.

I have seen, mate. As a matter of fact, alcohol, drug, weed, they have different effect compare to gambling addiction. When you are addicted in gambling, you know what you are doing but you are just off control but if you are under weed influence, you might not know what you are doing until you are free from that influence.

I have a close friend in school who was badly addicted to gambling, he steals from his parents and even pick pocket just to have money to gamble. He knows when he is stealing but unfortunately he can not stop himself from doing it. That's why I said that addicted gamblers knows when they are doing something wrong but what's more important to them at that point, is to gamble.

[Wakate]

 so sometimes they don't know when they borrow to gamble and they don't know exactly what they're doing when it come to the aspect of ignoring for a day, that's why we need to understand gambling is a game of opportunity and we don't need to be over depressed over gambling, when your excited to participate in the gambling you will not know when you will borrow to make gamble, the people I know that always think of borrowing funds to gamble is beginners in the gambling.

It's kinda weird that someone (an addicted gambler) would borrow money to gamble without even realizing that they have done so. I don't believe that anyone would do that without knowing, it's just lack of self control that can cause it. They know when they are taking the loan but can not stop themselves from it, while some people are just purposely taking the risk,  perhaps they have other means of paying back.

It is very unusual to see someone that would go as far as borrowing money from people without their conscious awareness. Every gambler must be ready to take responsibility of their gambling actions whether it ends in positive or negative results. It is when a gambler don't want to take the result of their gambling consequences that they normally realized that they have done the worse they must have avoided.

As gamblers we ought to watch every action we are taking to ensure that we don't end up in regret for taking an action that would not end up well. Gambling is a good way to make money but many people are misusing it because of the greed to make huge amounts of profits from gambling. Taking responsibility of our gambling action is one of the ways we could have a successful gambling lifestyle.

[junder]

In fact, all this shows how easy it is to find yourself in a difficult situation while making conscious actions, but you need to understand that only the player is responsible for this and no one else. Somehow he got the idea to play for money that is not his. Why did he stop, only because he wants to win back, but I want to say that you should never try to do this, this is what breaks our calm and planned life. In general, this all looks like consistent steps that do not need to be taken and our game will be clean and painless, at least so that later we will have to deal with problems for years, I personally do not want this. Therefore, I prefer to play calmly and without unnecessary rash actions.

The drive of the mind is that they only think about winning by ignoring the risk of losing which is clearly more likely to happen than winning until when they lose and run out of money they are still confident that the next gamble will be able to win. I will not try this on purpose, but of course I admit that I have experienced this and that when I gambled early by only thinking about winning. The good thing that I got from this incident was that it made me aware not to gamble excessively anymore because it is possible that it will only make me experience difficulties in the future besides that I myself no longer have strong self-confidence to gamble with continuous sessions so I do it in moderation.

[LUCKMCFLY]

If we have a dream to achieve a goals in gambling, we must reconsider that will not easy to reach. Gambling is just for fun and not for earn money so we must not trying so hard and let the luck comes to help us.

The truth is that lending money is something that is not financially recommended and for something like betting either, it would be like 2 mistakes in a row and that is not good , because in the end when you have to pay is where the big problem is, I do not recommend it, but there are people who do not learn and do it, I think that for them to benefit from multiplying the money it can happen , but the possibilities are very minimal, the risk is very great, I honestly would not do it and that is why I do not recommend that you do that, I really see that as nonsense.

[hahay]

If you dare and can promise responsibility to repay the loan on time, why not. Because after all, the problem is that every time someone borrows money, it will be difficult for them to repay the loan on time. Loan cases do not only occur for gambling needs, because to meet daily living needs there will always be people who will borrow money,  but most of them will find it difficult  to repay even though there is an agreed guarantee.

However, regarding borrowing money to gamble and to get something from the benefits, I personally have done it with the aim of buying a new smartphone. However, that happened a few years ago, and because I was ready for the risk of losing, but on the other hand I was also sure that I was in a good momentum to bet. Until finally I managed to get a good  profit to be able to buy the goods I wanted and then I was able to repay the loan even before it was due. I think there is no problem as long as we can be responsible, even if for example we actually get a defeat but after all, there is  a maximum time to be able to repay the loan so that we will still be able to repay it over time.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

 so sometimes they don't know when they borrow to gamble and they don't know exactly what they're doing when it come to the aspect of ignoring for a day, that's why we need to understand gambling is a game of opportunity and we don't need to be over depressed over gambling, when your excited to participate in the gambling you will not know when you will borrow to make gamble, the people I know that always think of borrowing funds to gamble is beginners in the gambling.

It's kinda weird that someone (an addicted gambler) would borrow money to gamble without even realizing that they have done so. I don't believe that anyone would do that without knowing, it's just lack of self control that can cause it. They know when they are taking the loan but can not stop themselves from it, while some people are just purposely taking the risk,  perhaps they have other means of paying back.

It is very unusual to see someone that would go as far as borrowing money from people without their conscious awareness. Every gambler must be ready to take responsibility of their gambling actions whether it ends in positive or negative results. It is when a gambler don't want to take the result of their gambling consequences that they normally realized that they have done the worse they must have avoided.

As gamblers we ought to watch every action we are taking to ensure that we don't end up in regret for taking an action that would not end up well. Gambling is a good way to make money but many people are misusing it because of the greed to make huge amounts of profits from gambling. Taking responsibility of our gambling action is one of the ways we could have a successful gambling lifestyle.

Yea, that's what am trying to let him understand. The only moment that someone would do something without being aware of what they are actually doing is if the person is drunk or perhaps the person is high under with weed.
As long as one is in their right senses with being under the influence of any substance, they should know what they are doing.

The problem of some people is lack of self control, that's why they would take loan even when they don't want to, they will not resist the urge to do so just so that they can continue gambling.

[shasan]

Yea, that's what am trying to let him understand. The only moment that someone would do something without being aware of what they are actually doing is if the person is drunk or perhaps the person is high under with weed.
As long as one is in their right senses with being under the influence of any substance, they should know what they are doing.

The problem of some people is lack of self control, that's why they would take loan even when they don't want to, they will not resist the urge to do so just so that they can continue gambling.

When anyone is addicted it is common that the person will have no self-control and it may add more control less  when anyone is drunk (if it is common drunk I mean if it is regular then it could be different and the person might not be senseless) so on that time the person might not aware about the source of fund and what will be the result.

[AmoreJaz]

Yea, that's what am trying to let him understand. The only moment that someone would do something without being aware of what they are actually doing is if the person is drunk or perhaps the person is high under with weed.
As long as one is in their right senses with being under the influence of any substance, they should know what they are doing.

The problem of some people is lack of self control, that's why they would take loan even when they don't want to, they will not resist the urge to do so just so that they can continue gambling.

When anyone is addicted it is common that the person will have no self-control and it may add more control less  when anyone is drunk (if it is common drunk I mean if it is regular then it could be different and the person might not be senseless) so on that time the person might not aware about the source of fund and what will be the result.

If the gambler is not in any influence, whether drugs or alcohol, he for sure can still make logical decision. But even if he is with clear mind if he is very addicted to what he is doing, he can still make desperate decisions especially if he is losing and he's chasing his losses.

Consider those gamblers who have been gambling for long time. You will stories of desperate moves such as stealing from their own family, or having arguments to the loan collectors or selling their properties just to cater their gambling desires. So as much as possible, don't put yourself in a situation where you need to take a loan just to continue your game. If you have no more funds, stop and just divert your attention to other worthwhile activities or maybe find side jobs to earn additional income.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

If the gambler is not in any influence, whether drugs or alcohol, he for sure can still make logical decision. But even if he is with clear mind if he is very addicted to what he is doing, he can still make desperate decisions especially if he is losing and he's chasing his losses.

Yea, you gave it a better definition (desperate decision). Desperate decision making doesn't means "uninformed decision," If the player is actually chasing losses and he is desperately in need of more money, that's when the desperation to take a loan could come in and in that particular situation, the player has two options, either to quit or take the loan but they decided to take the loan due to how desperate they are, meaning they are actually aware of when they took the loan.

[Jody.Drummer]

If the gambler is not in any influence, whether drugs or alcohol, he for sure can still make logical decision. But even if he is with clear mind if he is very addicted to what he is doing, he can still make desperate decisions especially if he is losing and he's chasing his losses.

Yea, you gave it a better definition (desperate decision). Desperate decision making doesn't means "uninformed decision," If the player is actually chasing losses and he is desperately in need of more money, that's when the desperation to take a loan could come in and in that particular situation, the player has two options, either to quit or take the loan but they decided to take the loan due to how desperate they are, meaning they are actually aware of when they took the loan.

It may still be tolerated to take out a loan to meet needs or others, but when someone takes out a loan by saying that their situation is urgent when in fact it is for gambling, it is very unreasonable, because in any case taking out a loan with the aim of gambling is a mistake, those who do this must have high self-confidence by thinking that the next gambling that will be done can produce profit or victory, this thought continues to exist until it becomes an impulsive action. By saying they are desperate and taking out a loan makes sense, because someone who bets and then experiences defeat will usually be upset and if they run out of capital, what they think about is going back to betting by looking for another way to get money again, this happens to those who are addicted, I have no doubt.

[$weetne$$]

Yea, you gave it a better definition (desperate decision). Desperate decision making doesn't means "uninformed decision," If the player is actually chasing losses and he is desperately in need of more money, that's when the desperation to take a loan could come in and in that particular situation, the player has two options, either to quit or take the loan but they decided to take the loan due to how desperate they are, meaning they are actually aware of when they took the loan.

But what the player is doing by taking the loan is wrong regardless of what the situation is. We should not be chasing losses when gambling and it is because he was chasing after his losses that he wants to take a loan to keep on gambling and there are chances that he will lose that money too because you can not become a successful gambler chasing after loses. When you lose, accept the reality that you have lost and keep gambling with a clean intention without any revenge in mind because with the revenge, you will only end up losing more money that you have lost when you first lost your bets. Loans are not good because they put you in debts that you might not come out from and then it becomes difficult to achieve financial freedom because of this