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February 07, 2025, 07:57:31 PM
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When they lose the money, they must give back the money to the lender and how they can do that when they lose all of the money? They will need to think about that so they will not borrow money and will not playing gambling if they don't have any money. So it is better to fulfills their dream from gambling especially if that is from the borrow money.

And that's where everything starts to fail, and that's where many begin to collapse, because they are not able to pay on time and that's something that some people can't avoid, to lend if they have all the disposition to assume everything that the lender tells them, but at the time of paying, which is the true duty, other things always influence, problems or something, it's not good to lend money or to gamble or to win, I see lending money as the last economic option to take and get out of a bind that has nothing to do with games, bets or something like that.

Yes and moreover usually when a gambler dares to gamble using borrowed money then when they have some money they do not pay the loan they have taken before but instead they use the money again to gamble in the hope of getting a big win to pay the loan amount and then get the rest of the win for them to enjoy or for the next gambling capital, so it can be said that they want to pay the loan but they also want to gamble.

On the other hand I say that not without reason because previously I also felt in that situation when I was still addicted and believe me it was a stressful situation because I lost money but my debt was not paid because gambling always hindered my intention to pay debt and this is the reason why gamblers often get caught up in debt problems, this can also be a learning material for anyone to better not give loans to gamblers.
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February 07, 2025, 09:08:23 PM
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Those who have a lot of money will use their money for the positive thing such as invest to some project so they can grow their money bigger.

Yes, that is how it is done, it is the smartest way to use the money you have, whoever uses money for any type of investment thinks about multiplying it in a well-worked way, whoever puts money in a casino to supposedly multiply it is making the worst decision they could make , I do not understand how a dream can be to grab money to multiply it in a casino, I know there are many inspiring stories about that, but particularly the conditions were ideal for those people at that time and they managed to emerge victorious, but the risk is too much,  I would not take it and I am very risky.

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February 07, 2025, 09:55:56 PM
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Borrowing money to gamble is actually okay, or I mean there is nothing wrong with it if for example you gamble with the intention of seeking entertainment because I really understand that not everyone always has money when they want to gamble, but on the other hand it is also not too right because in any case doing other activities that do not require you to spend money is much better to do than forcing the situation by borrowing money to gamble.

But in the end I still understand that borrowing money just to realize a desire that should not be prioritized is prohibited, no other than because in any case we never know whether we will win or lose and what is feared is when the results are not as expected which clearly will only lead us to disappointment and regret.
Borrowing money to gamble is a bad habit and I would never advise anyone to do so because it has a very bad effect to the person and to the society at large. Gambling has to do with taking of risks, no matter how much we trusted our predictions, going for borrowing to bet your game is s not option at all. I can remember when I was in school a final year student almost committed suicide because he used money that was met for his final year project for gambling. So I would always advise everyone to gamble responsiblly don't gamble with any amount of money you cannot afford to lose, remember gambling is just like a two edge sword so either you are winning or you are losing.

Yes, that's right and I just hope that gamblers can change their gambling habits for the better and I also hope that they can really use their common sense and rational thinking properly, because only then will they not dare to take out loans just to gamble, and I also believe in your story about the schoolboy who I am sure his decision to end his life was in his mind because he was unable to withstand the pressure of money problems that he should have used for more important things but instead he used it to fulfill his desire to gamble. The first thing that must be corrected in my opinion is an understanding of what and how gambling really is, because with that they will not come to the idea of ​​borrowing money just to gamble.

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February 07, 2025, 10:03:54 PM
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I am just having this thought: if we truly trust our gambling skills, then just like starting a business, we take risks because we believe we’ll succeed in the future. So, what if we’ve proven our strategy works, but we’re only betting small amounts and missing out on bigger opportunities? We might consider borrowing money to fast-track our success. Has anyone ever done that?

Living in the wonderland is pointless. We must confront reality. No strategy is proven and so it is very unwise for a gambler to go into borrowing simply because he has been lucky to win. Such a gambler will definitely lose and regret even conceiving such thought of going to borrow.
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February 08, 2025, 01:39:32 AM
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Yes, that is how it is done, it is the smartest way to use the money you have, whoever uses money for any type of investment thinks about multiplying it in a well-worked way, whoever puts money in a casino to supposedly multiply it is making the worst decision they could make , I do not understand how a dream can be to grab money to multiply it in a casino, I know there are many inspiring stories about that, but particularly the conditions were ideal for those people at that time and they managed to emerge victorious, but the risk is too much,  I would not take it and I am very risky.
That is the thought of a wise person, because of course a wise person will not waste his money even though there are some people who do it but I am sure they do it for a certain reason. For people who have unwise thoughts they will use their money for unimportant things, whether it is gambling or others.

Not a few people have the goal of doubling their money in gambling, even in a case when they do not have much money but they need a lot of funds, some of them choose to double it in gambling, even though winning or profit in gambling is not something that is certain to be obtained.

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February 09, 2025, 07:12:40 PM
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I am just having this thought: if we truly trust our gambling skills, then just like starting a business, we take risks because we believe we’ll succeed in the future. So, what if we’ve proven our strategy works, but we’re only betting small amounts and missing out on bigger opportunities? We might consider borrowing money to fast-track our success. Has anyone ever done that?

Living in the wonderland is pointless. We must confront reality. No strategy is proven and so it is very unwise for a gambler to go into borrowing simply because he has been lucky to win. Such a gambler will definitely lose and regret even conceiving such thought of going to borrow.

Well that's the point, actually the reason is very simple why borrowing money to gamble is really an action that is strictly prohibited, the reason is as you said that there is no guarantee or certainty whatsoever that we will win at the end of the game where of course the action is done because of the encouragement of hope and belief that they will be able to get a temporary victory when it turns out the result is actually the opposite then that's where disappointment, emotion and regret will arise which means that borrowing money is clearly an excessive action which in the end in most cases only leads a gambler to emotions and various aggressive actions that will be more dangerous to themselves and that's the reason why borrowing money is better avoided.
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February 09, 2025, 07:31:28 PM
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I am just having this thought: if we truly trust our gambling skills, then just like starting a business, we take risks because we believe we’ll succeed in the future. So, what if we’ve proven our strategy works, but we’re only betting small amounts and missing out on bigger opportunities? We might consider borrowing money to fast-track our success. Has anyone ever done that?

Living in the wonderland is pointless. We must confront reality. No strategy is proven and so it is very unwise for a gambler to go into borrowing simply because he has been lucky to win. Such a gambler will definitely lose and regret even conceiving such thought of going to borrow.

Well that's the point, actually the reason is very simple why borrowing money to gamble is really an action that is strictly prohibited, the reason is as you said that there is no guarantee or certainty whatsoever that we will win at the end of the game where of course the action is done because of the encouragement of hope and belief that they will be able to get a temporary victory when it turns out the result is actually the opposite then that's where disappointment, emotion and regret will arise which means that borrowing money is clearly an excessive action which in the end in most cases only leads a gambler to emotions and various aggressive actions that will be more dangerous to themselves and that's the reason why borrowing money is better avoided.
True. It's like in business, sometimes it's hard to justify those persons who borrow money and will be used in business because it's their business and will gain money from it, but sometimes it's not guaranteed so why you'll borrow money from me. It's better if it's considered as an investment so I should earn too from your business than using money for your personal gains.

So what's more in gambling? Why would you borrow money that will be used in gambling and no guaranteed of return? Probably should be prohibited.

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February 09, 2025, 09:26:11 PM
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I am just having this thought: if we truly trust our gambling skills, then just like starting a business, we take risks because we believe we’ll succeed in the future. So, what if we’ve proven our strategy works, but we’re only betting small amounts and missing out on bigger opportunities? We might consider borrowing money to fast-track our success. Has anyone ever done that?

Living in the wonderland is pointless. We must confront reality. No strategy is proven and so it is very unwise for a gambler to go into borrowing simply because he has been lucky to win. Such a gambler will definitely lose and regret even conceiving such thought of going to borrow.

Well that's the point, actually the reason is very simple why borrowing money to gamble is really an action that is strictly prohibited, the reason is as you said that there is no guarantee or certainty whatsoever that we will win at the end of the game where of course the action is done because of the encouragement of hope and belief that they will be able to get a temporary victory when it turns out the result is actually the opposite then that's where disappointment, emotion and regret will arise which means that borrowing money is clearly an excessive action which in the end in most cases only leads a gambler to emotions and various aggressive actions that will be more dangerous to themselves and that's the reason why borrowing money is better avoided.

Well from my point of view, borrowing might not be strictly prohibited but it is just not compulsory and it is a personal choice that is still not advisable to do. Anyone who goes to borrow to gamble should know the uncertainty and risk behind such actions and should take caution because gambling is very risky and as such anything can happen. This act alone could lead to addiction or it is a clear sign that addiction has set in otherwise why would a gambler go to the extent of taking a loan if not for addiction when we all know gambling is for fun and we can gamble with what we can afford to lose.

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February 11, 2025, 12:30:21 PM
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I am just having this thought: if we truly trust our gambling skills, then just like starting a business, we take risks because we believe we’ll succeed in the future. So, what if we’ve proven our strategy works, but we’re only betting small amounts and missing out on bigger opportunities? We might consider borrowing money to fast-track our success. Has anyone ever done that?
Living in the wonderland is pointless. We must confront reality. No strategy is proven and so it is very unwise for a gambler to go into borrowing simply because he has been lucky to win. Such a gambler will definitely lose and regret even conceiving such thought of going to borrow.
@DragonF is right about this. There are a lot of strategies, or we should call them betting patterns, that people use when they are gambling, but none of them is foolproof and works all the time, and when they work, it's basically coincidental and not a guaranteed thing. Imagine playing 20 bets using a strategy and managing to win 9 and losing 11. One can win that many bets even without a strategy, so these strategies are not guaranteed to make anyone win and they don't work the way people expect them to work.

I have seen people thinking that they have cracked the game and have found a pattern that allows them to guess the outcome of the next game. Can you imagine how illogical that thought is? If they knew that the results are randomly generated each time and aren't manual, they wouldn't say such things, but many people believe in such things.

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February 11, 2025, 06:07:45 PM
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I have seen people thinking that they have cracked the game and have found a pattern that allows them to guess the outcome of the next game. Can you imagine how illogical that thought is? If they knew that the results are randomly generated each time and aren't manual, they wouldn't say such things, but many people believe in such things.

Sometimes players are like that, they want to play so much that they think they are at a level where they think the prediction is right for them, sometimes it happens with newbies when they run out of money, and when they get the money for it, all they do is spend it all without any kind of success.

Sometimes with the combination of betting they think they can have the ideal Formula to win , or due to their experience, that Allows them to say that they can or have the Prediction thing ready, but no, there are always many things that influence, the game will always be Random.

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February 11, 2025, 06:20:01 PM
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I have seen people thinking that they have cracked the game and have found a pattern that allows them to guess the outcome of the next game. Can you imagine how illogical that thought is? If they knew that the results are randomly generated each time and aren't manual, they wouldn't say such things, but many people believe in such things.

Sometimes players are like that, they want to play so much that they think they are at a level where they think the prediction is right for them, sometimes it happens with newbies when they run out of money, and when they get the money for it, all they do is spend it all without any kind of success.

Sometimes with the combination of betting they think they can have the ideal Formula to win , or due to their experience, that Allows them to say that they can or have the Prediction thing ready, but no, there are always many things that influence, the game will always be Random.

You can also create and try different strategies on your own money, but almost all of them are also unsuccessful. You can understand this only after playing a lot, and if the strategies are very unsuccessful, then the loss of money will be very fast. It happens that some players, having come up with a strategy, do not want to test it with small bets, but are ready to bet everything on it, even take borrowed funds, which of course does not look like the smartest thing to do. Ultimately, it is better to test your theories on small bets, without borrowed funds.

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February 11, 2025, 06:37:07 PM
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Borrowing money itself is a gamble, some people point out finance markets resemble bets very often.   Some countries class betting on horses and betting on shares or money markets to be equal risk, tax etc., not all but I'd point out to borrow is to double bet.

  Its a negative because its balancing one risk on top of another, you are increasing chances of failure.  If we are talking an accumulator bet then thats great, its an old style to bet with but very risky and hard to win so people bet small amounts; here to borrow is to increase the damage and risk at the same time a clear mistake imo.

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Borrowing money to gamble is actually okay, or I mean there is nothing wrong with it if for example you gamble with the intention of seeking entertainment because I really understand that not everyone always has money when they want to gamble, but on the other hand it is also not too right because in any case doing other activities that do not require you to spend money is much better to do than forcing the situation by borrowing money to gamble.

But in the end I still understand that borrowing money just to realize a desire that should not be prioritized is prohibited, no other than because in any case we never know whether we will win or lose and what is feared is when the results are not as expected which clearly will only lead us to disappointment and regret.
Borrowing money to gamble is a bad habit and I would never advise anyone to do so because it has a very bad effect to the person and to the society at large. Gambling has to do with taking of risks, no matter how much we trusted our predictions, going for borrowing to bet your game is s not option at all. I can remember when I was in school a final year student almost committed suicide because he used money that was met for his final year project for gambling. So I would always advise everyone to gamble responsiblly don't gamble with any amount of money you cannot afford to lose, remember gambling is just like a two edge sword so either you are winning or you are losing.

Yes, that's right and I just hope that gamblers can change their gambling habits for the better and I also hope that they can really use their common sense and rational thinking properly, because only then will they not dare to take out loans just to gamble, and I also believe in your story about the schoolboy who I am sure his decision to end his life was in his mind because he was unable to withstand the pressure of money problems that he should have used for more important things but instead he used it to fulfill his desire to gamble. The first thing that must be corrected in my opinion is an understanding of what and how gambling really is, because with that they will not come to the idea of ​​borrowing money just to gamble.
Actually okay? I dont see for this to be okay no matter what on you do comes into a point that you will really be that taking up some loan just for you to gamble. We do know that golden rule when it comes into gambling is that you should really be that making use of the amount that you can afford to lose and never ever tend to go beyond with those numbers, because at the time that you do goes into that point then that will really be bringing out that huge potential problems that you might regret later on. We do know that regret do always come at the end. If you dont want to face up some potential disaster in terms of financial aspect then its best that you do know on what you are dealing on with and act according on whats good for you.

On the moment that you are already that eager on trying out to take up some loans or borrowing money to gamble, then this do really indicates that you are already that addicted to gambling and this is something that you cant easily get out or be able to solve it out not unless if you are really that be able to control your mind and emotion on which you are really that serious on quitting or stopping gambling on point because of the imposed problems that you do currently have or simply dont wait for things to get messed up.
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February 11, 2025, 07:10:13 PM
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Not a few people have the goal of doubling their money in gambling, even in a case when they do not have much money but they need a lot of funds, some of them choose to double it in gambling, even though winning or profit in gambling is not something that is certain to be obtained.

The problem is that you will always need funds to be able to play, and if the person does not control himself then more funds will be needed to spend until he feels that everything is ready, that is why the game must be handled wisely, it is necessary to be careful, it should not be put before the basic things, if something like this happens it is because it is a step Close to being an accident, then prevention is preferable, it does not hurt that before playing one thinks how much money one is willing to lose and only waste that money, and from there on no more.

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Borrowing money itself is a gamble, some people point out finance markets resemble bets very often.   Some countries class betting on horses and betting on shares or money markets to be equal risk, tax etc., not all but I'd point out to borrow is to double bet.

  Its a negative because its balancing one risk on top of another, you are increasing chances of failure.  If we are talking an accumulator bet then thats great, its an old style to bet with but very risky and hard to win so people bet small amounts; here to borrow is to increase the damage and risk at the same time a clear mistake imo.
I also think that there is no need for such an approach with borrowing money for gambling. But some players will not even think about it for a second because they will be under the influence of excitement, and in such a state the brain stops thinking rationally and only wants to bet more.

I can probably assume such borrowing of money only in one case, if the player, for example, plays poker professionally, and borrows money for the limit that he recently won in order to move to another. It turns out that due to his game skills he will be able to repeat this with a high degree of probability and luck of course plays a role here, but not a primary one.

 
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Well that's the point, actually the reason is very simple why borrowing money to gamble is really an action that is strictly prohibited, the reason is as you said that there is no guarantee or certainty whatsoever that we will win at the end of the game where of course the action is done because of the encouragement of hope and belief that they will be able to get a temporary victory when it turns out the result is actually the opposite then that's where disappointment, emotion and regret will arise which means that borrowing money is clearly an excessive action which in the end in most cases only leads a gambler to emotions and various aggressive actions that will be more dangerous to themselves and that's the reason why borrowing money is better avoided.

Well from my point of view, borrowing might not be strictly prohibited but it is just not compulsory and it is a personal choice that is still not advisable to do. Anyone who goes to borrow to gamble should know the uncertainty and risk behind such actions and should take caution because gambling is very risky and as such anything can happen. This act alone could lead to addiction or it is a clear sign that addiction has set in otherwise why would a gambler go to the extent of taking a loan if not for addiction when we all know gambling is for fun and we can gamble with what we can afford to lose.

Hmm yes actually it is not a problem to borrow money because after all loans are an option that is indeed made to be used as an alternative to overcome emergency needs, and it is a fact that gambling is a desire and not a need because there is no obligation or coercion, but yes it is not a problem to borrow money to gamble as long as they know the risks as you said, meaning whatever will happen at the end of the game then they must be able to accept it with an open heart especially defeat.

Another thing yes I quite agree with you that most likely they have been in a cycle of addiction, or have been trapped in it because of seeing their actions that force the situation in the sense of borrowing money to gamble and of course that is an action that leads to excessive aspects, so I think that the idea of ​​borrowing money to gamble will never be justified, because rationally when a gambler only considers gambling as entertainment then they will not force the situation just to gamble.
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Living in the wonderland is pointless. We must confront reality. No strategy is proven and so it is very unwise for a gambler to go into borrowing simply because he has been lucky to win. Such a gambler will definitely lose and regret even conceiving such thought of going to borrow.

Casinos are smart people, the way people study them that's how they have some experts that study the players as well. Anytime they noticed that people are winning huge amount of money in a particular way, they look at where is loophole and they adjust it and then it becomes difficult to make win again. So having a proven way to win is nothing because it can be tweak to make it even more difficult to win in the long term, else you will lose money to them.

he master key to gambling is to make sure you know how to play gambling, if you don't there is no point in trying to make money from it, sharing of codes and bets are others opinions even if they make mistakes you wouldn't be able to know anything about it. If they share you game and say it's sure game, you wouldn't know if they are yapping or giving you something worth staking money to, that's how gambling works. It's either you understand it or you don't.

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February 11, 2025, 10:57:12 PM
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I won't do this. I hate debts. Cheesy As much as possible, I'd rather have people borrow from me and not the vice versa because when I am debt I cannot stop thinking about it everyday, which sucks.
I don't even have a credit card or a loan in my bank because I know I will just feel the stress everyday of trying to find out how I can pay them back quickly. What more when it comes to the purpose of gambling? Nah, it never even crossed my mind. Also, I have never seen one strategy that works good, it had always been a losing side for me.
This belief and personality of yours will save you from a lot of stress in the future. If you have money to lend out to people, then being in the position to do that provides a better chance and opportunity to help, but there are those who can take loans from any service in any given opportunity that they have without giving it a second thought as long as it doesn't involve owing someone you have to see on a regular basis; then they are okay with it. If they have the opportunity to take a loan and gamble, I bet they will do it.

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February 11, 2025, 11:52:50 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2025, 05:54:18 PM by AmoreJaz
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Not a few people have the goal of doubling their money in gambling, even in a case when they do not have much money but they need a lot of funds, some of them choose to double it in gambling, even though winning or profit in gambling is not something that is certain to be obtained.

The problem is that you will always need funds to be able to play, and if the person does not control himself then more funds will be needed to spend until he feels that everything is ready, that is why the game must be handled wisely, it is necessary to be careful, it should not be put before the basic things, if something like this happens it is because it is a step Close to being an accident, then prevention is preferable, it does not hurt that before playing one thinks how much money one is willing to lose and only waste that money, and from there on no more.


Of course, anyone needs money when he decides to venture this activity. As every bet requires money, you need to make sure you are not putting yourself in a tight position. But on my end, I won't put myself in this kind of situation just to follow my desire to gamble. I know the feeling of looking for ways how to find money just to pay someone. That's actually hard scenario that you just wish that you are not in that position.


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February 11, 2025, 11:59:00 PM
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he master key to gambling is to make sure you know how to play gambling, if you don't there is no point in trying to make money from it, sharing of codes and bets are others opinions even if they make mistakes you wouldn't be able to know anything about it. If they share you game and say it's sure game, you wouldn't know if they are yapping or giving you something worth staking money to, that's how gambling works. It's either you understand it or you don't.
It should be understood from the beginning that everyone has different experiences and even if we equate in any form such as patterns and others in gambling the results will not be the same so in this case why try to imitate other people's styles in gambling because things like that will not have much effect in the end considering that gambling is done again purely to luck in the end.

Maybe this can be the same when the focus is on sportsbook betting but not for casino games because no matter how hard we equalize our form of play starting from strategies, game patterns etc. which are considered to make the same results as others get still in the end the situation will never be the same because when we gamble in casinos luck is in control in the end not to patterns or whatever.

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