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September 05, 2025, 10:58:50 AM
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"Old" means that some Bitcoins are at one address for a long time.
For example, from the aspect of AML risk score, "older" Bitcoins always have a very low risk score and are easier to accept in most services.
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If you have coins that can be linked to anything that is otherwise considered problematic, then it doesn't really matter whether they are coins that someone has been keeping in their wallet for 6 days or 6 years. For example, if you try to check the AML score of coins you got in a mixer campaign 5 or more years ago, believe me, they didn't clear on their own if you haven't moved them since then.

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September 05, 2025, 04:41:59 PM
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I got some old BTC, they have been on several addresses but you will get the private keys for all the addresses for the last 9 years. I require BTC that have been at a kraken/bitstamp/other popular exchange wallet just one transaction before sending to me.

Your "ad" is a simple laundry method from the many that we've seen from the moment that BTC gets a new terminology with "old", "new", "clean", "virgin", etc, stupid terms. The only thing that I still wonder is how you expect to get anything. This is an obvious trap, and nobody will fall for this. Except for the same newbies like yourself.

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If you have coins that can be linked to anything that is otherwise considered problematic, then it doesn't really matter whether they are coins that someone has been keeping in their wallet for 6 days or 6 years. For example, if you try to check the AML score of coins you got in a mixer campaign 5 or more years ago, believe me, they didn't clear on their own if you haven't moved them since then.

It's exactly as you said it. The score remains from the moment that the address is tagged as "shady" or "blacklisted".  The problem is that you can't get rid of it, no matter what you do. At least as far as I know.
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September 05, 2025, 11:45:14 PM
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It's exactly as you said it. The score remains from the moment that the address is tagged as "shady" or "blacklisted".  The problem is that you can't get rid of it, no matter what you do. At least as far as I know.
This makes me wonder what is going to happen if let's say 70% of the Bitcoins in circulation are marked/tagged as shady or dirty. The would AML score thing is just going to make people fear using Bitcoin at one point for fear of having their funds frozen by exchanges because they acquired "dirty" ones.;

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September 06, 2025, 10:26:11 AM
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It's exactly as you said it. The score remains from the moment that the address is tagged as "shady" or "blacklisted".  The problem is that you can't get rid of it, no matter what you do. At least as far as I know.


Actually, you can, because mixers still exist for exactly that kind of thing, and there's also the possibility of swapping these so-called tainted coins for any other coin. What can be a problem is to send such coins to CEXs or some payment processor that will mark them as problematic and freeze them or, in the best case, return them to the owner.



This makes me wonder what is going to happen if let's say 70% of the Bitcoins in circulation are marked/tagged as shady or dirty. The would AML score thing is just going to make people fear using Bitcoin at one point for fear of having their funds frozen by exchanges because they acquired "dirty" ones.;

The idea of ​​tainted coins is actually a weapon used by the authorities to direct investors to trade exclusively through CEXs, where everyone is required to do KYC. Likewise, the idea that the strategic reserves are filled with precisely such coins will be something with which the authorities will try to take their share of the pie without investing any money.

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September 20, 2025, 06:39:49 PM
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Is there any particular reason why you cant send your "old" btc to Kraken or another popular exchange directly and get that one transaction you need?


This is the question everyone should be asking but it seems the OP has straight up
ignored it.

With transaction fees so low its super cheap to send even small amounts so it would
be a lot less hassle for the OP to just send to an exchange.Trading with a newbie i
s risky and especially in this scenario.

As regards "Old Bitcoin" nobody cares whether its old or new but there are people
who would like Bitcoin with only one transaction from the miner - "Virgin Bitcoins"

 
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October 03, 2025, 11:00:30 PM
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It's exactly as you said it. The score remains from the moment that the address is tagged as "shady" or "blacklisted".  The problem is that you can't get rid of it, no matter what you do. At least as far as I know.
This makes me wonder what is going to happen if let's say 70% of the Bitcoins in circulation are marked/tagged as shady or dirty. The would AML score thing is just going to make people fear using Bitcoin at one point for fear of having their funds frozen by exchanges because they acquired "dirty" ones.;

That scenario is scary indeed say that 70% of Bitcoins that are in circulation are being tagged by this blockchain analysis company. And with that I'm thinking, that maybe we could buy Bitcoin at a discount since it's tainted? And then we have a market wherein all Bitcoin that are marked dirty can be sold and it's different to a market that buy and trade Bitcoin that is clean? And then newly minted Bitcoin are going to be tagged as "virgin" and so the price is at a premium. And obviously, by that time, not all Bitcoin are treated or created equal.

 
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October 08, 2025, 05:20:14 AM
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It's exactly as you said it. The score remains from the moment that the address is tagged as "shady" or "blacklisted".  The problem is that you can't get rid of it, no matter what you do. At least as far as I know.
This makes me wonder what is going to happen if let's say 70% of the Bitcoins in circulation are marked/tagged as shady or dirty. The would AML score thing is just going to make people fear using Bitcoin at one point for fear of having their funds frozen by exchanges because they acquired "dirty" ones.;

That scenario is scary indeed say that 70% of Bitcoins that are in circulation are being tagged by this blockchain analysis company. And with that I'm thinking, that maybe we could buy Bitcoin at a discount since it's tainted? And then we have a market wherein all Bitcoin that are marked dirty can be sold and it's different to a market that buy and trade Bitcoin that is clean? And then newly minted Bitcoin are going to be tagged as "virgin" and so the price is at a premium. And obviously, by that time, not all Bitcoin are treated or created equal.

So do you really expect 2 markets  Smiley
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October 08, 2025, 05:57:56 PM
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BTC is BTC old and new not matter any value or price.
all are the real with decentralized you can't able to divide it with old and new.
If you old and new is different then you need to learn more about bitcoin and decentralized economic power.
I recommend you try to know about crypto and blockchain and about power of BTC

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October 09, 2025, 10:53:29 PM
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BTC is BTC old and new not matter any value or price.
all are the real with decentralized you can't able to divide it with old and new.
If you old and new is different then you need to learn more about bitcoin and decentralized economic power.
They want Bitcoin to look like or behave like fiat so bad that they come up with this new classifications such as "New Bitcoin" "Old Bitcoin" "Virgin Bitcoin" "Clean Bitcoin" " Dirty Bitcoin". This is one of the points of attack on Bitcoin and the more people believe such a false narrative, the worse for us.

I don't think satoshi had it in mind that Bitcoin would be classified this way several years later after he launched the network

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October 28, 2025, 08:48:39 PM
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BTC is BTC old and new not matter any value or price.
all are the real with decentralized you can't able to divide it with old and new.
If you old and new is different then you need to learn more about bitcoin and decentralized economic power.
I recommend you try to know about crypto and blockchain and about power of BTC

I think OP doesn't have the proper knowledge of BTC and that is why he thinks that there is a difference in value of BTC stored in an old address or new address. Or another condition could be that he is very clever and wanted to clean his btc that he got from scamming anyone and he is pretending to be innocent and asking to move BTC with the new/old logic.

By the way, if the later part is true, the dirty btc can easily be cleaned through mixing services and he don't need to ask people for all this stuff.

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