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January 17, 2025, 04:06:03 PM
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Only few traders are being profitable and the rest are just going in a cycle as they make money from the first trade and lose the money in the future to other trades because they are not being careful how they trade and they are not taking profits as they trade. Everything you wrote made sense and as we should not be using all our money as capital for trading so should we not be keeping all the profits that we made as capital but we should learn the habit of taking profits. As we take profits, we will always have capitals to continue to trade as we have bad trades. Losing is always going to happen when you are trading because we can not be making profits all the time therefore it is not the initial losses that matters but how we react to the losses, that is the important thing.
The reason why only a few people stay profitable in trading is because others overdo it. If you have already made some profit, you don't need to be in a hurry to get more and make more trades within a short timeframe because that increases the chances of you making mistakes and losing money. As you said, one should be happy with the profits they have made already instead of trying to make more quickly.

Losses in trading are inevitable, and one cannot avoid them all the time, but one should at least try to make more profitable trades than loss ones so that their average net outcome is positive and they don't waste their time and money. If you are spending so much time and still not making anything, even if you are not losing, it's not worth it.

This is why it is said often said that trading is not for everyone because not everyone can manage it efficiently.
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January 17, 2025, 06:50:17 PM
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The reason why only a few people stay profitable in trading is because others overdo it. If you have already made some profit, you don't need to be in a hurry to get more and make more trades within a short timeframe because that increases the chances of you making mistakes and losing money. As you said, one should be happy with the profits they have made already instead of trying to make more quickly.

Losses in trading are inevitable, and one cannot avoid them all the time, but one should at least try to make more profitable trades than loss ones so that their average net outcome is positive and they don't waste their time and money. If you are spending so much time and still not making anything, even if you are not losing, it's not worth it.

This is why it is said often said that trading is not for everyone because not everyone can manage it efficiently.
The reason is not that someone earns, but that everyone wants to get a quick result, and does not want to do anything for this, does not want to learn, think and make independent decisions. In fact, I think that there are quite a lot of successful traders in trading, by successful I do not mean that they earn millions, I mean that they can earn enough to provide themselves with everything they need.
And those who do not want to learn lose, in trading it is impossible to get a quick result, first you must study how the market works and what you need to pay attention to, only after that can you succeed.
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January 17, 2025, 09:14:42 PM
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Some traders who are genuinely making money don’t always have the time to come to social media and advertise themselves for online coaching classes. They are usually busy doing their technical analysis always, and I believe they simply don’t have that kind of time.

Someone that's making money won't leave the money that he or she is making to come online to try to prove to others that there's money in what they're doing. They'll be busy with their work and making money, the actual profit makers are living a low profile life in other people dream house and making money. Trading comes with losses but it also have profits hence we can make the profits too as other traders are doing but to get to this stage, we don't have to neglect the importance things that's needed to be done to become a better trader. Trading isn't something that we can become good act without having to practice and have some losses but when we don't quit, we can have the lifestyle that we have always wished for before we began trading. There are some traders making money but also come online to teach others because they want to pass the knowledge to others.

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January 19, 2025, 08:28:16 AM
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Some traders who are genuinely making money don’t always have the time to come to social media and advertise themselves for online coaching classes. They are usually busy doing their technical analysis always, and I believe they simply don’t have that kind of time.

Someone that's making money won't leave the money that he or she is making to come online to try to prove to others that there's money in what they're doing. They'll be busy with their work and making money, the actual profit makers are living a low profile life in other people dream house and making money. Trading comes with losses but it also have profits hence we can make the profits too as other traders are doing but to get to this stage, we don't have to neglect the importance things that's needed to be done to become a better trader. Trading isn't something that we can become good act without having to practice and have some losses but when we don't quit, we can have the lifestyle that we have always wished for before we began trading. There are some traders making money but also come online to teach others because they want to pass the knowledge to others.
Someone who is truly an expert tends not to want to appear in public to make a validation that they are a very expert trader. While those who appear in public I myself am not so sure that they are truly expert traders, not all of them, but I am sure some of them are just taking advantage of the situation to make a profit. For example, those who finally open paid classes, I think those who are truly experts no longer need to get profit from the paid class. Indeed, in this case they argue that they are selling knowledge, but many of the members are ultimately disappointed with what is produced.

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January 19, 2025, 09:07:10 AM
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Someone who is truly an expert tends not to want to appear in public to make a validation that they are a very expert trader.
Pretty much, successful people rarely talk about their methods. They work from the shadows and lead humble lives to make sure they dont raise suspicions.

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While those who appear in public I myself am not so sure that they are truly expert traders, not all of them, but I am sure some of them are just taking advantage of the situation to make a profit.
You can never trust someone when it comes to crypto or its analysis, you have to much of the work on your own and learn trading. Apply them and then whatever you get back is yours to keep.

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For example, those who finally open paid classes, I think those who are truly experts no longer need to get profit from the paid class.
They are no longer trading but selling courses which is a completely different thing. It is similar to writing books about getting rich when the writer is actually the one getting rich. Never pay someone to teach you something that is free in this sector.

 
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January 19, 2025, 11:52:21 AM
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There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Only few traders are being profitable and the rest are just going in a cycle as they make money from the first trade and lose the money in the future to other trades because they are not being careful how they trade and they are not taking profits as they trade. Everything you wrote made sense and as we should not be using all our money as capital for trading so should we not be keeping all the profits that we made as capital but we should learn the habit of taking profits. As we take profits, we will always have capitals to continue to trade as we have bad trades.
That is why is good to acquire the knowledge of trading, before planning to buy coins from the market because to lose is very easy in trading but to earn profit in trading is not an easy thing because you have to pay attention to your strategy and knowledge for you to be able to take a good decision. There are some new traders that will not read this trend or other trading books that related to crypto before trading because they feel decentralized trading is easy like centralized trading they are use to in their various environment.

For you not to involve in such attitude of losing what you have earn from trading, be satisfy with what you earn at the moment and it will help you not to lose all you have earn in the past from trading because the more you try to recover your losses the more you will continue to lose your money.

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January 20, 2025, 10:31:33 AM
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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
When I start trading, I choose altcoins because some people say it is highly profitable, especially new coins. And I try to follow what they say. Unfortunately, I only just lost my money while the coins I bought stuck with no update. A lesson to learn.

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There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
I'm not really good at reading the chart, but yes, I've found it very useful to make analysis. That is why I highly recommend this, not just to have a sure profit but also as necessary to have better results. 
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January 20, 2025, 11:39:53 AM
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It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is very important to learn because too much greed is a reason for an unsuccessful trading journey.

Yeah, we want to earn big, and if we have the chance, why not? But we also need to consider and evaluate the market situation before pursuing our goal. Because many traders got it wrong, usually they believe that every day is always profitable. But sad to say, not all the time do we have the favor; sometimes we lose our money as well. So I say that learning how to accept small profits helps us to prevent losing opportunities. 

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January 20, 2025, 12:59:49 PM
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It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is very important to learn because too much greed is a reason for an unsuccessful trading journey.

Yeah, we want to earn big, and if we have the chance, why not? But we also need to consider and evaluate the market situation before pursuing our goal. Because many traders got it wrong, usually they believe that every day is always profitable. But sad to say, not all the time do we have the favor; sometimes we lose our money as well. So I say that learning how to accept small profits helps us to prevent losing opportunities. 
Yep is true, I am currently thinking that it is better to get a profit of $ 10 every day than having to make a moment with one chance to get $ 10K because it is very difficult to do in my opinion especially if our capital is below $ 1K.
At this time it is much better to get a $ 10 profit, I am doing that and just walk well from the beginning of January, it might be considered to be included in the scalping trade but if it feels it is much better and increasingly can be consistent we can raise our capital and increase the probability of profit We can get it from how to trade discipline like this.
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January 20, 2025, 02:21:00 PM
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It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
The four points mentioned above are very important. If someone wants to trade well, they can do better if they keep the following points in mind.

1. Market research and market analysis are important. If you cannot examine the current market situation, sector-specific trends, technical aspects and fundamentals, it can be difficult to make the right decisions.
2. You also need to take care of proper risk management. No matter how skilled a trader you are, sometimes struggles become inevitable. However, compensation can be reduced with proper restructuring.
3. Emotions can have the greatest impact while trading. Greed, fear and anxiety can force you to trade. So you need to control your emotions. Do not succumb to fear or greed. Do not worry about the market fluctuations, trade accordingly.
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January 20, 2025, 03:10:42 PM
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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
When I start trading, I choose altcoins because some people say it is highly profitable, especially new coins. And I try to follow what they say. Unfortunately, I only just lost my money while the coins I bought stuck with no update. A lesson to learn.

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There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
I'm not really good at reading the chart, but yes, I've found it very useful to make analysis. That is why I highly recommend this, not just to have a sure profit but also as necessary to have better results. 
Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market.

Reading graphics or technical analysis is also very important because not a few people who have a lot of money in this world refer to the same book to study technical analysis so that there will definitely be the same decision if they learn from the same book as a way of making decisions in certain moments at market.

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January 21, 2025, 08:42:51 AM
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Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market.

Reading graphics or technical analysis is also very important because not a few people who have a lot of money in this world refer to the same book to study technical analysis so that there will definitely be the same decision if they learn from the same book as a way of making decisions in certain moments at market.
Trading is almost 80% all about reading charts and indicators, so that you would be able to know which direction it should be going. Obviously that is not always giving you what will happen, because sometimes hype and good news changes stuff, and because of that things may not be always what you see on the charts, but 80% of the time that should be the case.

Like for example if there is a good news such as trump made his own memecoin, obviously the hype on the market may not show up on the charts before that news, while it looked decent and may have a small increase, it wasn't "this" green before that, but at the end of the day trading is a tough work and you can't just base your trading on what news you will see that day, it would be a wrong move without a doubt.

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January 21, 2025, 03:09:46 PM
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Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market...

You will not be afraid of trading altcoins if you adhere to the risk management strategy. And given the fact that there are a huge number of different altcoins, you can choose from them those that are more or less stable and do not have high volatility.

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It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is very important to learn because too much greed is a reason for an unsuccessful trading journey.

Yeah, we want to earn big, and if we have the chance, why not? But we also need to consider and evaluate the market situation before pursuing our goal. Because many traders got it wrong, usually they believe that every day is always profitable. But sad to say, not all the time do we have the favor; sometimes we lose our money as well. So I say that learning how to accept small profits helps us to prevent losing opportunities. 
Yep is true, I am currently thinking that it is better to get a profit of $ 10 every day than having to make a moment with one chance to get $ 10K because it is very difficult to do in my opinion especially if our capital is below $ 1K.
At this time it is much better to get a $ 10 profit, I am doing that and just walk well from the beginning of January, it might be considered to be included in the scalping trade but if it feels it is much better and increasingly can be consistent we can raise our capital and increase the probability of profit We can get it from how to trade discipline like this.
Being sustainable trader will really be your or must should have reached up that kind of trader on which you will really be needing to target on because on the moment that you do reach out this kind of state then you will definitely be that considered a sustainable trader because you can beat up those who do win up that huge money or profit in one shot. So it will really be just that better on how you could really be able to sustain yourself because it will be that useless that you do make out some 1 or 2 profitable trades in compared to those who do end up on green despite of series of loses on which this do really shows up that you can be able to make yourself that able to sustain. So it will really be just that depending into someones preference.

Trading and losing is always been that partner up because we cant be that all be winning when dealing up with trading because not all will really be that successful into this career on which at the time or moment that you will be having this kind of approach on where you are that too positive that you can make money then this is really that a huge issue for you because this isnt really that it do makes out that always on positive result on which loses will really be that still happening. On the time that you are expecting something positive but you are really that ending up on having some loses then it will be leading up into desperation.

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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
I would say that it's okay to trade alt coins but it's not okay to trade new alt coins. Most new alt coins lose so much of their value in days and the ones who invest in those alt coins might end up losing their capital, but the reputed alt coins can be safe for trading. I personally trade Bitcoin and some alt coins and so far I have made profits with both Bitcoin as well as alt coins. However, the profit that comes from alt coins is higher than that of Bitcoin in my case.

 
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2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is an important aspect of trading that people especially newbies that are practicing risk management do neglect. It is better to earn gradually than trying to earn big and losing all of your money. In trading, the more you risk, the more you lose and vice versa. Rome was not built in a day, so you have to be patience to see yourself grow gradually as your earn little by little until you have gotten enough capital to risk more of your initial investment at hand that time.

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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

Trading of altcoins are the focus of some people because of the high risk volatile market that it is. Those that don’t really have patience to wait consider memecoins for fast gains, having no patient to wait for the market to reach their zone. The market makes the moves sharply and they immediately get onto the trade to either give them a TP or SL which is okay by them. The risky nature of altcoin is not for beginner traders especially memecoins, so it’s important they are not traded until they’re more mastered than before.

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This is an important aspect of trading that people especially newbies that are practicing risk management do neglect. It is better to earn gradually than trying to earn big and losing all of your money. In trading, the more you risk, the more you lose and vice versa. Rome was not built in a day, so you have to be patience to see yourself grow gradually as your earn little by little until you have gotten enough capital to risk more of your initial investment at hand that time.
Trading is risky and having enough knowledge about it is not enough. Knowing how the market operates, its history, its cycle and different phases within a cycle, as well as vital order types to avoid, reduce your loss, are important firstly to defend your trading capital. If you can not protect your trading capital, you will not be able to get profit from trading.

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The market makes the moves sharply and they immediately get onto the trade to either give them a TP or SL which is okay by them. The risky nature of altcoin is not for beginner traders especially memecoins, so it’s important they are not traded until they’re more mastered than before.
With trading, using stop loss order is very important practice. It is a like a must used order, and it does not depend on whether you are trading bitcoin or altcoins.

It's one of best weapons in trading.

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January 24, 2025, 08:25:55 AM
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Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market.

Reading graphics or technical analysis is also very important because not a few people who have a lot of money in this world refer to the same book to study technical analysis so that there will definitely be the same decision if they learn from the same book as a way of making decisions in certain moments at market.
Trading is almost 80% all about reading charts and indicators, so that you would be able to know which direction it should be going. Obviously that is not always giving you what will happen, because sometimes hype and good news changes stuff, and because of that things may not be always what you see on the charts, but 80% of the time that should be the case.

Like for example if there is a good news such as trump made his own memecoin, obviously the hype on the market may not show up on the charts before that news, while it looked decent and may have a small increase, it wasn't "this" green before that, but at the end of the day trading is a tough work and you can't just base your trading on what news you will see that day, it would be a wrong move without a doubt.
Yep you are right, the news is not one of them for me to trade if I only guide it, maybe I will lose more money there, there are so many factors we must see as a crypto trader who is basically a very sensitive and speculative market, we need seeing graphically, fundamentally, news sentiment and also hype some of these things are the basic indicators for analyzing the altcoin that we will trade, then Bitcoin as the mother of all market movements also needs to be analyzed too because we often see if Bitcoin falls then Altcoin is more severe down And vice versa, maybe a person's analysis method is different like you and I but we need to pay attention to anything that does not experience excessive losses and also the benefits that are sufficient for us in trade.

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January 24, 2025, 10:09:14 AM
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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
I would say that it's okay to trade alt coins but it's not okay to trade new alt coins. Most new alt coins lose so much of their value in days and the ones who invest in those alt coins might end up losing their capital, but the reputed alt coins can be safe for trading. I personally trade Bitcoin and some alt coins and so far I have made profits with both Bitcoin as well as alt coins. However, the profit that comes from alt coins is higher than that of Bitcoin in my case.
Altcoins that have been on the market for a long time and have a reputation, capitalization and other options are more predictable and easier to trade than those, for example, that are created on a conveyor belt on Solana. Meme tokens are a new trend and it works on the principle of pump and dump, which is more like a lottery than trading and the mistake of beginners is that they take such tokens too seriously and think that they are subject to logic, but in the case of such tokens, almost everything depends on the developer and when he decides to sell his share of tokens and collapse the market.

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January 24, 2025, 02:03:48 PM
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This is an important aspect of trading that people especially newbies that are practicing risk management do neglect. It is better to earn gradually than trying to earn big and losing all of your money. In trading, the more you risk, the more you lose and vice versa. Rome was not built in a day, so you have to be patience to see yourself grow gradually as your earn little by little until you have gotten enough capital to risk more of your initial investment at hand that time.
Trading is risky and having enough knowledge about it is not enough. Knowing how the market operates, its history, its cycle and different phases within a cycle, as well as vital order types to avoid, reduce your loss, are important firstly to defend your trading capital. If you can not protect your trading capital, you will not be able to get profit from trading.

I don't know much about it but I will talk to you as much as I can. There is no doubt that it is risky because money has to come or go and that is why it is risky.  There are many things to look at in trading, in which you have said exactly what you said because you have to take a step by looking at everything forward and backward in the market which is quite a difficult and risky step. Obviously when the money will not accumulate how will work in the market. Because sometimes there is a loss in the market there should be money in the next step to cover it.

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