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January 03, 2025, 06:06:08 PM
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Now If you compare yourself- with someone who lives in bad countries goverment are corrupted violance no resources and daily life is huge struggle, and you live in let's say in eu usa or any other democratic western society and you feel like you struggling and you poor, then someone else who don't even live in this country where you will that he or she will be happy If they would be you with your problems and opportunities.

If you see anyone who got way harder struggles than you have then it's because they are strong enough to carry them but If those struggles will come to you then it will be too hard for you to deal with them because If you complain about your much easy life and struggles.
So what about the lives of people who are in those countries and they have no chance of getting out in a life full of corrupt government, violence and no resources that could lead them to a much better life. There is almost no choice for people there because they have to endure the bad life that they live in and out there people easily think of getting out of economic hardship. Nobody expects this kind of life and if there is an opportunity they will definitely leave that place to find a much better life.

But it's all complicated for them and there may be no chance that they can get a better life. Poor countries are usually prone to corruption in government, violence and a life without good social control and this is influenced by people's difficulties in reaching a better stage of life in making money.
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January 03, 2025, 10:36:02 PM
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So what about the lives of people who are in those countries and they have no chance of getting out in a life full of corrupt government, violence and no resources that could lead them to a much better life. There is almost no choice for people there because they have to endure the bad life that they live in and out there people easily think of getting out of economic hardship. Nobody expects this kind of life and if there is an opportunity they will definitely leave that place to find a much better life.

But it's all complicated for them and there may be no chance that they can get a better life. Poor countries are usually prone to corruption in government, violence and a life without good social control and this is influenced by people's difficulties in reaching a better stage of life in making money.
in the midst of an uncertain economy, it is very difficult, for some poor countries to change the situation with the welfare obtained is very difficult because of various factors that are the reasons, and they have to try harder to generate finances  of course it is not easy, it takes time to overcome all that depending on the leader in the country.


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January 03, 2025, 10:45:52 PM
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I think the OP text contains a lot of wishful thinking.

We should WISH that people who went through hardships become CEOs. Because these people will be able to show more compassion when in a position of power where they could take decisions.

But right now we live in a society where he rich become richer and the poor poorer.
Social mobility starts becoming more of a myth with almost every country becoming worse.

Do you think that if you wanted to be a compassionate CEO the shareholders would let you? Nah... They'd take your position away from you the very second you go against their profits.
Sadly our dignity goes against their profits on many occasions.  The American healthcare system becoming an industry is a great example of this.


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January 03, 2025, 10:51:26 PM
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Well, Im just not buying it when people say I should compare my problems to someone whos got it worse.  That doesnt make what Im dealing with any less difficult.  We all have our own stuff going on.  My issues are real and they matter - to me, at least.

And I dont buy into the whole what doesnt kill you makes you stronger thing all the time.  Sometimes crappy things happen just because, and its OK to feel bogged down or need somebody to lean on when it gets to be too much.  I dont have to handle everything solo to prove Im tough enough.  Nobody does, really.  We could all use a hand now and then.

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January 04, 2025, 06:28:22 AM
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Not everyone chooses to become rich in life, We are not equal and we can never be equal, some people are born to become poor and die as poor people that's how God plans for them, some people will be born by a rich family and at the end he will die as a poor person

Exactly my point that this is the circle of life and at such everyone doesn't necessarily be rich, because you find the good and bad and that's what makes life what it is, so if you're thinking that there's a factor facilitating the need for one to be rich nor poor then you ought to bring your mind down to earth. Everything is open to a change and this is why one that was poor become rich and vice versa.

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by looking at yourself it will cover many things that need to be fixed, which of course by learning from experience is much more important, poverty in life is difficult to say that maybe it is necessary to examine the origins of what happened that caused it all, many factors in life that concern the fate of people but it depends on how hard they try to change it.
Everyone who has been born into this world continues to try to change their own fate through many things with the aim that they will not be poor among many people. But what we need to realize from this is that there is nothing easy in this world, especially if it is to become rich which generally always requires a process and effort that is not a little for everyone to go through. But on the one hand I am also a little confused in measuring the rich and poor of a person because there are also people whose lives look simple, but that person always has enough in living his life without any problems, even though in terms of assets and property they are not that much.

But there are some people who are born into the wealthy family which they will never struggle or think on how to become rich, because they where born into wealth, but to those that are born into poverty they can still change the history by start working hard to eliminate those things that made their parents poor. I agree with that nothing good come easy, because you have to struggle or work towards your dreams before you will be able to achieve positive results in the future. We have different categories of rich people in the community which you can use their assets to know who is Richer than other, likewise poor people too, they have different categories, there are some poor people who use to beg before they can feed daily while there are some poor people who have little to feed but they don't beg before they can feed.
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January 04, 2025, 08:49:13 AM
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It's our abilities to deal with obstacles and hard things setbacks and much more in our lifes.
Also in some point the LEVEL OF HARD or EASY wich we choose knowingly or quite accidently.
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So person who been in hardest situations like near life death or fighting their life or struggling hard If you give them better conditions better surroundings then yes this kind of person is the next CEO and business people and hard workers.

Your huge post, somewhat reminiscent of conversations from the series about the life of Prince Siddhartha Gautama, can be summarized briefly: stop thinking that the world revolves around you. Look around and then you will immediately see that you are not as unhappy or unlucky as you thought. People tend to take their current situation for granted and constantly look at those who are in a better position. Then you should thank God for what you have now.

As for hypotheses about a person's potential, if he were in different conditions, these are just assumptions. Everyone is in the conditions in which they must prove themselves in one way or another.

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January 04, 2025, 04:40:37 PM
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in the midst of an uncertain economy, it is very difficult, for some poor countries to change the situation with the welfare obtained is very difficult because of various factors that are the reasons, and they have to try harder to generate finances  of course it is not easy, it takes time to overcome all that depending on the leader in the country.
We must take an individual role in terms of finance because expecting the government to solve economic problems will actually make us suffer more. Look for opportunities to make money because even though our income is small, if it can be generated consistently, it will help our lives a little to be better. There is no easy way, but we need to fight to solve the problem because now there are many opportunities that each individual can do to make money.

Leaders cannot possibly solve the problem of poverty completely because in fact there are many problems that they may not be able to overcome. So if everyone does not make changes independently, their lives will be increasingly difficult in an increasingly chaotic economy like today.
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It's our abilities to deal with obstacles and hard things setbacks and much more in our lifes.
Also in some point the LEVEL OF HARD or EASY wich we choose knowingly or quite accidently.

Take your problems and compare with other people yours you will find that many people would be HAPPY If they only could have problems what you have.
If you struggle and not doing well it means this problems and issues are for you to grow and learn because If you start talk with other people who got more hopeless situation then yours then you find out that WOW my problem is really not that big and i can find the solution.

In many case they say GOD and life is fair and you get only problems what are exacly for your level in mentally physically by your prepared conditions.

Now If you compare yourself- with someone who lives in bad countries goverment are corrupted violance no resources and daily life is huge struggle, and you live in let's say in eu usa or any other democratic western society and you feel like you struggling and you poor, then someone else who don't even live in this country where you will that he or she will be happy If they would be you with your problems and opportunities.

If you see anyone who got way harder struggles than you have then it's because they are strong enough to carry them but If those struggles will come to you then it will be too hard for you to deal with them because If you complain about your much easy life and struggles.

Whenever you are in bad situation or financial struggling or you feel too many bad things and you think you don't do good enough then think about for those who could look you as the HAPPY person only If they would have your life they will feel like they are happiest person on the world.

So If you see someone more wealthy and have more success and doing better in their life it means their capabilities to solve problems and issues are just way better then your level If you both live in the same countries or City or similar goverment regime location.

So in otherwords the success is the capabilities to solve problems and issues and to find best solutions the moment in life you have issue it's becouse you need to solve that issue and once you solve that and find solution you move on to higher level those people who are on higher level in many ways than you are If they would be in your situation it will be easy for them to solve and find the solution and they would say that If they would have so Easy life like i have then they would happy because for them my problems are not problems at all only for me because people have different capabilities to solve problems.

Off course when we look at someone with complete bad situation like homeless then my problems would be nothing compared with them.

But also any problem issues will show up in your life the faster you solve that right way the faster you move higher level up the thing is that If start getting use to live in hard situation then your level going down gradually and you don't even notice that you slowly going down and getting use to with so don't get Comfortble track your wealth and everything If it start falling lower and lower you have problem and you need to deal with this issue asap.

People who don't act asap once problems coming then they going down slowly so they should keep their level always stable or higher that's why it's very important to control when where and for what and how much you spend money.

You find often people in very down who got use to with Critical situation and waited too long the most dangerous thing is the slow falling more down and down when you get use to with lower life standards lower health or wealth that's the most dangerous thing when you get use to with bad things, also people now kind of getting use to with wars too and that's bad seek always for better things otherwise you end up in situation like BAD life is normal.

But successful people are great problem solvers and they reach high level by solving problems fast and best ways while those who don't move up so fast most of them just not that great on solving the problems and find solutions.
But If you are not happy about your problems just look around and compare your life with others you will find out that your situation is not that bad or hopeless at all it's just Challenge for your to grow and getting better and stronger once you solve current LEVEL problems you can move up higher level you have few more better things on higher level too but you also have more complex and difficult problems to solve.

So person who been in hardest situations like near life death or fighting their life or struggling hard If you give them better conditions better surroundings then yes this kind of person is the next CEO and business people and hard workers.
Being poor or rich is dependent on a person's mental state
Failure in business or investments does not define the end or profit and success in business
Failure to me can also be seen as an asset my kind advice is for people  to achieve it and not to throw it away as it could be useful in the future
In business and success, there is nothing sustainable that comes by luck
Respect failure just as you respect success

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January 07, 2025, 06:35:53 AM
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While challenges do make people strong, a lot of people go through which others can't even imagine, more than 1 million people living in extreme poverty. No matter the scenario, everyone's struggles are real. Comparing problems develops perspective, but making everyone trivialize their problems is not it. Resilience might sound like a great component, it often needs support and some resources to grow. While reflecting on others' difficult circumstances helps us appreciate all that we have, it does not mean that we will not focus on our self-improvement without guilting ourselves.
by looking at yourself it will cover many things that need to be fixed, which of course by learning from experience is much more important, poverty in life is difficult to say that maybe it is necessary to examine the origins of what happened that caused it all, many factors in life that concern the fate of people but it depends on how hard they try to change it.
Simply looking at the mirror is not enough, as what we can only see there is physical appearance, therefore we also need to think deeply and list what inner qualities we have. This isn't only limited to the positive ones but also the negatives as well. What we see and feel can be said to as a part of our experience. It shapes us but not all of it are good.

We still can change it though and it is a must, in order for us to become a well human being. On poverty, the origin of it might be our ancestors. They say that everything happens for a reason but the reason is also the product of our actions. If we did a wrong move, and it affected us hard, it will also require a major effort to recover.

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So if you are sharing something important that you want the community to engage, I suggest to summarize your post and put some links from where the information is coming from.

I tell you, having long post as this is usually boring to read but they might be carrying useful information and what I do most times seeing long threads as this I go through the first three paragraphs and get the main content,but breaking them down for better understanding will do alot better, rather than reading a long post that's going off point. And it's an interesting topic that'll require some beautiful insights.

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Simply looking at the mirror is not enough, as what we can only see there is physical appearance, therefore we also need to think deeply and list what inner qualities we have. This isn't only limited to the positive ones but also the negatives as well. What we see and feel can be said to as a part of our experience. It shapes us but not all of it are good.

We still can change it though and it is a must, in order for us to become a well human being. On poverty, the origin of it might be our ancestors. They say that everything happens for a reason but the reason is also the product of our actions. If we did a wrong move, and it affected us hard, it will also require a major effort to recover.
In terms of understanding, it is necessary to see the situation that occurs, the need to make changes in action to be carried out, there are many choices that we make, and poverty is not a choice, but about the situation that can be tried to be restored to a better state, depending on a person's thinking to be applied so that there is always improvement in oneself and that is the key that needs to be applied.


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January 07, 2025, 02:37:53 PM
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So what about the lives of people who are in those countries and they have no chance of getting out in a life full of corrupt government, violence and no resources that could lead them to a much better life. There is almost no choice for people there because they have to endure the bad life that they live in and out there people easily think of getting out of economic hardship. Nobody expects this kind of life and if there is an opportunity they will definitely leave that place to find a much better life.

But it's all complicated for them and there may be no chance that they can get a better life. Poor countries are usually prone to corruption in government, violence and a life without good social control and this is influenced by people's difficulties in reaching a better stage of life in making money.
in the midst of an uncertain economy, it is very difficult, for some poor countries to change the situation with the welfare obtained is very difficult because of various factors that are the reasons, and they have to try harder to generate finances  of course it is not easy, it takes time to overcome all that depending on the leader in the country.


Actually those countries has nothing to do, If they don’t get the right person to lead the country. Mostly the people are surviving here in Asia where most of countries which are poor or developing are facing the issue of corruption. Where people has nothing much to do himself to overcome from this bad situation of economy. So it think i need to change the leading person if we have the ability then most of the thing can be changed immediately and the financial crises would ve solved easily. On the other hand if overcome the situation it would be tough for all of us. However we also need work hard and make skill ourself to overcome the financial situation. Hope it will help us to make improve of living and also financial freedom.
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Actually those countries has nothing to do, If they don’t get the right person to lead the country. Mostly the people are surviving here in Asia where most of countries which are poor or developing are facing the issue of corruption. Where people has nothing much to do himself to overcome from this bad situation of economy. So it think i need to change the leading person if we have the ability then most of the thing can be changed immediately and the financial crises would ve solved easily. On the other hand if overcome the situation it would be tough for all of us. However we also need work hard and make skill ourself to overcome the financial situation. Hope it will help us to make improve of living and also financial freedom.
That is the situation in every part of the world and because of that we can't really move any further at all, that's the point. I get that we can't move that much quicker but that's the reality and we can't make a big change as long as the politicians keep the same way so that's the most important part and we need to consider this same. I get that it is going to be a bit boring, at all and this would grow a lot more and can get much better result if we could get politicians who are not corrupted but that's the greatest thing we can handle with the time.

So if we can elect people who can do that then we could reach much better results but unfortunately people just pick their bad politician so that other sides bad people would lose, and nobody really realizes that they are both bad. Look at UK, look at USA, look at France, all of them are all bad and corrupt and you have to pick one of the bad ones, no matter who you pick, it will be a corrupt one.

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Life's all about handling challenges. When you compare your problems with others, you'll see many people would be thrilled to have your issues. Struggles help us grow, and success comes from solving problems. If you're in a tough spot, remember that others might see your life as a blessing. Keep solving problems, and you'll keep moving up.
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Handling obstacles but without clear goal will not make you rich. Handling obstacles is important but without clear picture of your goal you'll dissipate energy too much

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in the midst of an uncertain economy, it is very difficult, for some poor countries to change the situation with the welfare obtained is very difficult because of various factors that are the reasons, and they have to try harder to generate finances  of course it is not easy, it takes time to overcome all that depending on the leader in the country.
We must take an individual role in terms of finance because expecting the government to solve economic problems will actually make us suffer more. Look for opportunities to make money because even though our income is small, if it can be generated consistently, it will help our lives a little to be better. There is no easy way, but we need to fight to solve the problem because now there are many opportunities that each individual can do to make money.

Leaders cannot possibly solve the problem of poverty completely because in fact there are many problems that they may not be able to overcome. So if everyone does not make changes independently, their lives will be increasingly difficult in an increasingly chaotic economy like today.
I myself insist on not expecting much from the government, because basically whoever the government is, we still work alone to earn money and support our own families. The annoying thing is that the government usually makes sweet promises at the beginning but when they have succeeded in sitting in their seats they forget the promises they made at the beginning, this is not a strange thing, in fact I think this has become a culture in my country.

The government may listen to the complaints of some of its people but they will not completely solve the problems that occur, one of the incidents in the country is where the access to travel is not suitable to be crossed and the community has repeatedly asked for improvements, sometimes the government responds but very rarely do they act immediately, this is annoying.
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To move forward in life, you have to prepare yourself clearly and set goals that are good for you. If you can do this, then surely your success will come very soon, if you cannot do this, otherwise you will be set towards more misery day by day.

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Life's all about handling challenges. When you compare your problems with others, you'll see many people would be thrilled to have your issues. Struggles help us grow, and success comes from solving problems. If you're in a tough spot, remember that others might see your life as a blessing. Keep solving problems, and you'll keep moving up.
The reason behind the poor people is the mindset of poor people. They want to earn money but they don't want to invest money. That is thinking of poor people because they don't want to be bankrupt. Donald trump faced bankruptcy for 1 time and after he became rich been he has good relationships and he stood. Poor people have not mindset like that because they only want to pay bills which is their need but rich people want to get financial freedom in the life . They made many assets and these are giving them money.Middle class people are also poor people but they have money to pay bills but they could not afford with costly things like they don't buy branded suits and shoes which show that you are rich person but they have all facilities of life.

 
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