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January 16, 2025, 12:16:04 PM |
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I created this topic to hear what’s the opinion of most player when playing same game but in different type between live and house game.
What do you think is the most comfortable blackjack game for you? Provably fair or Live?
Provably fair system promised full transparency on the game but what if user playing it doesn’t know how to verify the code whether it’s fair or not since not all gambler can understand coding.
Live game on contrary provides physical games which we can see in our naked eye the cards that drawn in the shoe. The only fairness question is game provider might use tricky card like changing the number while on the shoe(I’m not sure if this technology is possible) to give an advantage to the dealer since they need to scan it in able to show value to the screen.
Let’s discuss about your experience. There’s no wrong opinion here.
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January 16, 2025, 01:26:42 PM |
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Live blackjack for me is much better since you have an option to have multiple seat and change table in case you are unlucky on your current table. House blackjack offers pure random card since every round dealth using full card deck meaning it’s very hard to find a streak or change the flow of the cards compared to live blackjack which you can easily cut the bad luck streak by changing the number of seat you are playing.
The only advantage of house blackjack for is the game is much quicker which is good for acquiring wagering but in terms of fun then I will definitely choose live games due to the presence of live dealers that you can interact while playing.
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January 16, 2025, 01:46:43 PM |
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Live blackjack for me is much better since you have an option to have multiple seat and change table in case you are unlucky on your current table. House blackjack offers pure random card since every round dealth using full card deck meaning it’s very hard to find a streak or change the flow of the cards compared to live blackjack which you can easily cut the bad luck streak by changing the number of seat you are playing.
I believe pure random game per round means you don’t have to worry about the arrangement of the cards since you can consider it as they shuffle the whole deck per round. Although I agree that selecting multiple seat can help you change the tempo of your game since you can breakeven if one of your card is good while the other is bad. The only advantage of house blackjack for is the game is much quicker which is good for acquiring wagering but in terms of fun then I will definitely choose live games due to the presence of live dealers that you can interact while playing. But the disadvantage is much riskier since you can experience rush betting that will make you prone on error during decision phase. Most of my losses on blackjack is from house blackjack because of its quick game feature which is not good on game that needs to think.
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January 16, 2025, 03:04:11 PM |
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Live Blackjack vs House Blackjack first of all i love blackjack like a lot it simply because i cant play other card game and blackjack is easy and fast game and sometimes i play it for quick cash after losing in game like crash and plinko.
Back to the topic if you asked me between live blackjack and house blackjack i prefer live blackjack because it just feel alive we can say hi to the dealer and talk to them via chat when ylu play House blackjack you like play with Robot and i lost a lot haha
But im just curious what is the function of the scanner in card shuffler in live Blackjack
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January 16, 2025, 07:41:49 PM |
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Live dealer IMO is better than the house blackjack. While casi is say provably fair, I still feel like there are ways to cheat the players. I won't go into detail as I have no proof to offer, but I think it's possible.
With Live dealers I can see everything. They may be cheating players as well, but feels safer I guess.
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In terms of comfort, i'd say they're close to one another so it all comes down to one's preference (provably fair or visual evidence) and for me, that's live blackjack as it's slightly convenient when you mostly have to rely on what you're seeing through the feed.
For house blackjack, casinos tend to have a guide and verifier to make the process easier. Even if they don't have one, there are third-party sites that should help you find the answers you're looking for and tell you what to put on their verifiers.
If you don't want to go through those steps, then live blackjack is the alternative as the live dealers follow certain procedures before they pull out cards from a freshly shuffled deck.
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January 17, 2025, 07:16:39 AM |
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Live dealer IMO is better than the house blackjack. While casi is say provably fair, I still feel like there are ways to cheat the players. I won't go into detail as I have no proof to offer, but I think it's possible.
With Live dealers I can see everything. They may be cheating players as well, but feels safer I guess.
Probably it's more of a human psychology, that we want to see a blackjack dealer, instead of the house blackjack and it makes us question whether it's provably fair or not. Although there are instance that a live dealer was caught cheating as well,  Probably just few occasions that they have been fault. But still though for me, I will go and play with live dealer.
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As a gambler who doesn't understand coding, I still think optimistically when playing Blackjack at an online casino, and I'm not really skeptical about cheating behind the scenes. But if you think about it, live play might be fairer because we can see some important details of what the dealer does with our own eyes.
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Not quite sure if you playing the "Live-Blackjack" yets or not.
Most of the room blackjack uses shoes made with "plastic" not a machine. Yes, there is some cheating device for the "shoe machine" that can mix or make output to specific cards. But most of the shoe storage is made with plastic (Pragmatic Play/Evolution Games).
Best advice - Play on biggest or favourite provider like PP or Evolution - Avoid machine shoe
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January 17, 2025, 12:06:36 PM |
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Not quite sure if you playing the "Live-Blackjack" yets or not.
Most of the room blackjack uses shoes made with "plastic" not a machine. Yes, there is some cheating device for the "shoe machine" that can mix or make output to specific cards. But most of the shoe storage is made with plastic (Pragmatic Play/Evolution Games).
Best advice - Play on biggest or favourite provider like PP or Evolution - Avoid machine shoe
I’m not pertaining to the shoe mechanism when I say that cards can be change. I’m assuming a possibility of the cards itself can be changed the display using some advanced shit technology like what I saw in the movie hahaha. I’m just overthinking this possibility for the sake of discussion for possible cheating but I’m not suggesting that this is really happening. Btw I spend most of my wager on live blackjack so I’m pretty familiar with these games. I’m just exploring now house blackjack as this is my worst nightmare so far on my blackjack journey.
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The house edge is exactly the same whether u play Live or House Blackjack. U will have the same RTP on both considering the rules are the same.
Personally, I prefer house blackjack because u play faster and don't have to wait for other people to act. Also, there no miss deals and card shuffles happening.
At house blackjack U can also redeposit for your double/split while during a live session you don't.
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January 17, 2025, 01:28:25 PM |
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I reckon in terms of easily visible guarantee, people would prefer Live Blackjack than House. It's clearly visible as to what's happening in the cards after all plus they can technically save replays of shuffles and draws to see if anything "dubious" is actually happening. Compare that to House Blackjack where it's up in the air. Even when checked, a majority of crypto casino users don't even know if what they're doing makes the checking even valid or not really since it looks a bit technical.
Personally I don't mind either, but I do play Live more compared to House.
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January 17, 2025, 02:00:35 PM |
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The house edge is exactly the same whether u play Live or House Blackjack. U will have the same RTP on both considering the rules are the same.
This correct, theoretical RTP is just the same since just the same game that why I didn’t mention this matter when it comes to comparison. The discussion is just purely revolves on the experience for using both type of Blackjack. At house blackjack U can also redeposit for your double/split while during a live session you don't. Great point for the advantage since you can’t do this on live blackjack as it has a time constraint for decision making. Personally, I prefer house blackjack because u play faster and don't have to wait for other people to act. Also, there no miss deals and card shuffles happening. How do you battle the pressure when experiencing a long losing streak? It’s very hard to control bets when the game is fast phase.
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When online: House Blackjack is much faster and there are no distractions from other players, so it seems much better. Overall, Live in a real casino is best, but the table minimums are much higher than online, so the money needed is sometimes way too high. Basically, online House is cheaper and super fast with no need to have to get to a casino. I finally played so much I will be spending time on other things.
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It depends on the player and their environment some of the players want to make themselves concentrate during the game so they prefer house blackjack and also they don't get any pressure at all, unlike with live blackjack they have a very crowded place and people can watch you give more pressure but just the same outcome still it's the blackjack game if you are good with the cards of statistics and probability still you have the higher chance to win with the next card. Live blackjack for me is much better since you have an option to have multiple seat and change table in case you are unlucky on your current table. House blackjack offers pure random card since every round dealth using full card deck meaning it’s very hard to find a streak or change the flow of the cards compared to live blackjack which you can easily cut the bad luck streak by changing the number of seat you are playing.
The only advantage of house blackjack for is the game is much quicker which is good for acquiring wagering but in terms of fun then I will definitely choose live games due to the presence of live dealers that you can interact while playing.
Both live and house blackjack they made a shuffle of the deck but just difference is its programmatically with the random and a manual with the dealer side. AFAIK before start of the game they make shuffle of cards or change the set of deck.
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January 17, 2025, 03:04:04 PM |
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How do you battle the pressure when experiencing a long losing streak? It’s very hard to control bets when the game is fast phase.
Just keep the bets consistent and don't martin gale yourself because I had losing streaks of 12 games in a row but also winning streaks. It goes both ways and If u want to win you should play fast and short since on the long run the odds are against you.
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January 17, 2025, 03:13:45 PM |
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When online: House Blackjack is much faster and there are no distractions from other players, so it seems much better.
Live online blackjack is what being referred here not the physical blackjack that you can play IRL casino. I think even on IRL casino players is not allowed to distract others or else you will get kicked out. The pressure is much higher on physical casino table games since you are dealing face to face against the dealer. Overall, Live in a real casino is best, but the table minimums are much higher than online, so the money needed is sometimes way too high. Basically, online House is cheaper and super fast with no need to have to get to a casino. I finally played so much I will be spending time on other things. I agree, minimum bet on IRL casino table games is much higher but this is because they are paying many expenses compared to house blackjack that operates automatically based on the code design. Also only few play nowadays on the minimum range.
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I’m not pertaining to the shoe mechanism when I say that cards can be change. I’m assuming a possibility of the cards itself can be changed the display using some advanced shit technology like what I saw in the movie hahaha. I’m just overthinking this possibility for the sake of discussion for possible cheating but I’m not suggesting that this is really happening.
Btw I spend most of my wager on live blackjack so I’m pretty familiar with these games. I’m just exploring now house blackjack as this is my worst nightmare so far on my blackjack journey.
Nope, I don't think there is no such things the card are suddenly change like AI. But, for changing the next card dealing to the card we want from the deck could be possible by machine shoe. That's why it is better to avoid machine shuffle or machine-dealing shoe, just stick with some shoe storage in plastic not machine or dealing by hand in front of you.
Good luck for the thread.
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I don't like virtual blackjack games or "house blackjack" games as you say because it's usually very complicated to check the fairness of the round and of the whole game. In addition it's very hard to guess if the game is really random or if it tends to generate more unsual patterns than a common shuffle of the cards. In addition some virtual blackjack games uses an unlimited amount of decks, meaning you can undergo very long streaks with bad cards for the player dealt theoretically.
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January 17, 2025, 10:09:26 PM |
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How do you battle the pressure when experiencing a long losing streak? It’s very hard to control bets when the game is fast phase.
Just keep the bets consistent and don't martin gale yourself because I had losing streaks of 12 games in a row but also winning streaks. It goes both ways and If u want to win you should play fast and short since on the long run the odds are against you. But it's going to be a mental battle though, just like what he says, it's hard to control bets, and most of the time, gamblers wanted to think before putting their bets. There is also this baccarat game that I once played online wherein it's really very fast, and as you try to think the timer is up.
I think the obvious answer here is that we want to play live, no question about it. The experience is very different, because when you play against the house, you don't know if it is provably fair or maybe they are going to try to manipulate the result early and keep you winning until you fell confident and then you go on a losing streak.
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