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January 21, 2025, 03:25:56 PM
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Despite the TON ecosystem's reputation with "tap to earn" projects, some initiatives are still in preparation and yet to go live.

For instance, Vert went live today, and as usual, there are mixed complaints. Unlike "tap to earn" projects, Vert is a real-world asset (RWA) project building on TON. I also noticed that MDPogs seems to be gearing up for launch, given the increased activity here.
https://x.com/MoneyDogs_house?t=seSEnSoN61WTwgwp_cNVDw&s=09

Although it's a meme token, the figures behind it are quite impressive. My question, however, is: when will we start seeing real utility projects within the TON
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January 21, 2025, 03:40:32 PM
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Well what real utility does TON itself provide that isn't already provided by umpteen similar blockchains?


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January 21, 2025, 03:57:01 PM
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My question, however, is: when will we start seeing real utility projects within the TON

An easy question, this should be asked to developers who enjoy creating projects in the $TON ecosystem. When will their minds move away from simple projects like "tap to earn"? and start building real projects as game changers in this ecosystem. I think if "tap to earn" projects are still promising for developers there, they won't think about getting out of the box, every day there are more and more "tap to earn" projects which make this ecosystem look boring.

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January 22, 2025, 09:03:18 AM
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Well what real utility does TON itself provide that isn't already provided by umpteen similar blockchains?


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You're right but it could be refined.. scalable, gasless transactions etc. And building an ecosystem with innovative ideas, holding hackathons etc could help. Btw, seems the sentiment is decent, might get some MDOGS via this. Mdogs Bitget Campaign

My question, however, is: when will we start seeing real utility projects within the TON

An easy question, this should be asked to developers who enjoy creating projects in the $TON ecosystem. When will their minds move away from simple projects like "tap to earn"? and start building real projects as game changers in this ecosystem. I think if "tap to earn" projects are still promising for developers there, they won't think about getting out of the box, every day there are more and more "tap to earn" projects which make this ecosystem look boring.

You nailed it. Let's see how well the ecosystem develop!.
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January 22, 2025, 11:37:01 AM
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I was asking, basically, as a developer.

I get the impression its primary appeal so far is to developers of scams, due to its being famous as a place where scams do really really well.


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January 22, 2025, 06:41:19 PM
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I was asking, basically, as a developer.
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They clearly need devs with higher standards.

I have seen a similar list before, and couldn't currently find the article, this one is pretty good:
From pixelplex.io link below


Seamless accessibility and user acquisition


Telegram apps seamlessly integrate into the Telegram ecosystem. Unlike traditional mobile app development or cross-platform app development services that require separate installations and updates, Telegram apps are directly accessible within the Telegram interface. This enables users to effortlessly explore a wide range of services and solutions.

Moreover, the familiarity with the Telegram platform helps reduce user acquisition costs and allows users to swiftly transition to new apps.

Access to a large user base

Telegram boasts a vast user base of 900 million active monthly users who generate 500 billion channel views each month. Therefore, the development of a Telegram app will allow you to gain access to this extensive network and empower you to promote your services and solutions to a diverse audience.

Enhanced security


Telegram’s ecosystem prioritizes stringent security measures and ensures increased user data protection and adherence to regulatory requirements.

Since bots and Mini Apps operate within the Telegram environment, they benefit from the same end-to-end encryption and security protocols that Telegram is known for. This enhanced security builds trust and confidence, making Telegram apps a reliable choice for users.

Diverse monetization options

Telegram apps offer diverse opportunities to generate revenue. These include:

    In-app purchases. Enabling users to buy virtual goods and premium features within the app.
    Subscriptions. Offer access to exclusive content and features, thus fostering long-term user engagement and loyalty.
    Advertising. Display ads within the app tailored to the interest of users.
    Sponsored content. Collaborate with brands to create sponsored posts and ensure a lucrative revenue stream.

Furthermore, the integration of Wallet Pay, which supports both fiat and cryptocurrency payments, further expands monetization opportunities, allowing users to make payments seamlessly within Telegram apps. Besides, Telegram’s recent launch of USDT payments on the TON blockchain adds convenience for users and creates new revenue channels for developers.

Efficient viral mechanisms

Telegram features an intuitive mechanism for sharing Mini Apps and content, which streamlines user acquisition and ensures increased engagement. The viral mechanism is straightforward: users are rewarded for referring friends and actively participating in the app’s activities.

A prime example of the simplicity of viral mechanisms within Telegram is Notcoin, a tap-to-earn game where users earn rewards by tapping the main screen.

In January (2024), it achieved a remarkable milestone with 20 million sign-ups within just 26 days of its release. The game’s viral growth is driven by its referral system, where players share referral links with friends, and both the referrer and the new user receive Notcoins as a reward.

In Notcoin, friends that join the game through personal referrals can form Squads, encouraging them to compete against each other and other squads. This creates organic connectivity, keeping users engaged and expanding the reach of Telegram apps.
Seamless multi-platform compatibility

Telegram apps operate smoothly across various platforms, including iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, and Linux. Users can engage with these apps on any device, whether it’s a smartphone, tablet, or desktop, without facing any limitations or inconsistencies.

Thanks to this flexibility and convenience, users can access their preferred services on any device they choose.

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Haha its funny they list in wallet paying for things as a feature when I just read yesterday in a PirateCash thread that it is quite the opposite, the coin is going to have to castrate its telegram bot because telegram doesn't actually allow in app payments and exchanges and so on it only allows letting telegram do payments with its own app or something like that, using the TON blockchain.


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January 23, 2025, 05:51:34 AM
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My question, however, is: when will we start seeing real utility projects within the TON

An easy question, this should be asked to developers who enjoy creating projects in the $TON ecosystem. When will their minds move away from simple projects like "tap to earn"? and start building real projects as game changers in this ecosystem. I think if "tap to earn" projects are still promising for developers there, they won't think about getting out of the box, every day there are more and more "tap to earn" projects which make this ecosystem look boring.
tap to earn project is easier to grift on people and most of the dev doesn't even hide it, demanding "donation" otherwise you're not going to qualify, but at the end the just give you fraction of the money you spend and call it a day sometime make you ineligible near TGE for some absurd reason, definitely this tap to earn mini game aren't going away, the ton ecosystem is full of that and even has become the characteristic of the blockchain this is why I would never touch ton ecosystem even with 10ft pole ever again.

I suspect this could happen because ton ecosystem is so easy to access for people with no crypto knowledge who happen to use telegram so there's that.

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January 23, 2025, 04:27:50 PM
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The Telegram wallet supports many popular blockchains, does anyone know if individual devs can easily add new ones directly or through the API?

When could we start seeing improved Ton ecosystem projects?
When talented devs interested in creating unique new projects in the Telegram ecosystem, using the Telegram Wallet and/or TON blockchain start to do so.  Tongue


Haha its funny they list in wallet paying for things as a feature when I just read yesterday in a PirateCash thread that it is quite the opposite, the coin is going to have to castrate its telegram bot because telegram doesn't actually allow in app payments and exchanges and so on it only allows letting telegram do payments with its own app or something like that, using the TON blockchain.


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The Telegram wallet supports many popular blockchains, does anyone know if individual devs can easily add new ones directly or through the API?

When could we start seeing improved Ton ecosystem projects?
When talented devs interested in creating unique new projects in the Telegram ecosystem, using the Telegram Wallet and/or TON blockchain start to do so.  Tongue


Haha its funny they list in wallet paying for things as a feature when I just read yesterday in a PirateCash thread that it is quite the opposite, the coin is going to have to castrate its telegram bot because telegram doesn't actually allow in app payments and exchanges and so on it only allows letting telegram do payments with its own app or something like that, using the TON blockchain.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050988.msg64980339#msg64980339

Basically it sounds like it is heading toward being another "walled garden" like over time one has heard of Apple's app store and likely others becoming:

A place that might temporarily take advantage of your (the developer's) work to fill a gap in their own portfolio of offerings until ready to toss you (a developer) out in favour of their own version of your idea as soon as they have whipped up their own thing to fill the niche you temporarily filled for them to help their garden look full of goodness.

I read somewhere sometime that Apple doesn't allow other people's pay systems for example, as Pirate Cash seems to be victim to in telegram/ton garden.

Whether the laws will ban such monopolistic practices might remain to be seen but in Trump's America it doesn't seem likely does it?

In Canada locking phones in to carriers was banned, did America ever get around to that and even if so will Trump let such a thing stand?


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January 24, 2025, 05:37:53 PM
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Despite the TON ecosystem's reputation with "tap to earn" projects, some initiatives are still in preparation and yet to go live.

For instance, Vert went live today, and as usual, there are mixed complaints. Unlike "tap to earn" projects, Vert is a real-world asset (RWA) project building on TON. I also noticed that MDPogs seems to be gearing up for launch, given the increased activity here.
https://x.com/MoneyDogs_house?t=seSEnSoN61WTwgwp_cNVDw&s=09

Although it's a meme token, the figures behind it are quite impressive. My question, however, is: when will we start seeing real utility projects within the TON

TONcoin has the potential to grow, but how can it? There are some projects that developers are working on behind the scenes, and one day, they could definitely become hits like Notcoin, Pixel, and more. You’ll see projects like RWA, DeFi, and DEX tokens on TON, but right now, the devs are mostly just memeing.

Looks like the project, MDogs, you mentioned has already gone live on Bitget. You can see the sentiment is positive from this tweet about MDogs: https://x.com/bitgetglobal/status/1882407182982889891, can see people saying good launch..

But you know how it is these days with TON memecoin projects. Most of them are trying to follow the path of DOGS and NOTCOIN, but not all have succeeded.

I am still in PAWS, SEED and others, I hope they can make TON great again, and if not, then we all might be disappoined with it.
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Although it's a meme token, the figures behind it are quite impressive. My question, however, is: when will we start seeing real utility projects within the TON

The sudden impact of gen TON ecosystem in the crypto world brought about a lot of spark in the crypto market. They had the opportunity to make the best of the time they had to make their best stance in the crypto market, but they allowed tap to earn projects to use their users and didn’t appreciate them enough for their projects.

Today, many projects that are building on Ton network, has to do with telegram mini bot are hated by many because they believe it’ll end up like one of those projects that have listed poorly in the past through the telegram mini app games under the TON ecosystem.

They’ve lost their relevancy which they gained writhing a short time by the successful lunch of Notcoin. Except a new big game comes into that space and do something spectacular, not many people will rely on them to get good rewards for their efforts.

 
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I am still in PAWS, SEED and others, I hope they can make TON great again, and if not, then we all might be disappoined with it.
SEED was disappointing, not pixel is the same, many of TON projects right now are just a shit project that just for TGE, take profit, rinse and repeat.
undeniably the developer are getting rich from the stars donation, but the player just getting peanut despite spending money.

be ready to get disappointed, PAWS, and others that's still have TGE in progress, I expect them to be massive disappointment as well.

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January 25, 2025, 11:25:23 AM
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tap to earn project is easier to grift on people and most of the dev doesn't even hide it, demanding "donation" otherwise you're not going to qualify, but at the end the just give you fraction of the money you spend and call it a day sometime make you ineligible near TGE for some absurd reason, definitely this tap to earn mini game aren't going away, the ton ecosystem is full of that and even has become the characteristic of the blockchain this is why I would never touch ton ecosystem even with 10ft pole ever again.

I suspect this could happen because ton ecosystem is so easy to access for people with no crypto knowledge who happen to use telegram so there's that.
Even the meme coins, shitcoin, and the likes as well. Tap to earn project is only another kind of them. It is newer so the hype is still there and this makes it easy for those who join it to make money from the public but even the public can also earn money too on them especially if they are wise enough. Anyways, donation is supposed to be optional only but they make it look like it is one of the mandatory requirements.

It can be obvious that there is something wrong with that project already. As I said earlier, this tap to earn is only another project or another hype, so like the other, they will also have their own expiration time. Just see and wait for it.

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January 26, 2025, 08:40:40 AM
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When could we start seeing improved Ton ecosystem project? Ton is pretty much you and i agree with you that make ton is really stand out its because its the play to earn game or the tap tap game it get traction from million of user.

For now or from my perspective ton is just like the regular chain but still very new and infant the dex is only two or three and the other dapp still at development maybe it because the ton isnt evm compatible so Developer need to rewrite their code

 
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