Changing Gambling Narratives

[aoluain]

So if gambling is prohibited in some country, then they should do it in a way that does not cause any conflict and maintains their own safety. That is, a gambler must maintain high privacy.

Given those facts, if it's already banned in a country, some gamblers should not try to change the narratives but comply with their country's rules. If they want to change the situation, they will have to fight in a legal way. It is not gamblers; casino companies should try to change the law so they can provide their service to customers. The gamblers have nothing to do with that.

I wanted to call out the thread creator, but decided not to do because I don't know how is the situation his country. I hope he will come to the realization once the government will start taking action against the law breakers.

I agree with that too, the OP will just have to comply with the countries laws in
terms of gambling. We dont know what country that is, all countries in Europe
for example have a legal stance on gambling so its easy for us to make the
choice to gamble or not.

I'm guessing that the OP's country are protecting its citizens from themselves
but also depriving them of making their own choices.

[bitzizzix]

Another thing that must be changed or fixed is the mindset or perception of every gambler who has a wrong view of gambling such as those who think that winning is easy to get or views like gambling that think it will be able to make them earn income so that gambling is used as a source of fixed income, this is a view that must be fixed because if you persist with this perception in the long term what will happen is that the situation will only get messier.

In addition, gambling is not a fraud or scam either, because here it is clear that there are owners who develop this and their goal is to make a profit, people who say gambling is a fraud seem like they don't understand gambling that well.

This mindset and perception must be eliminated before entering the world of gambling, but most gamblers cannot do this because most of them gamble only to get victory or income from gambling games that make them gamble without control and gamble continuously which will actually make them suffer more because they play without awareness and all of that is the result of the gambler's own mistakes.

Gambling is indeed not a game of fraud or cheating but gambling is a business that makes a lot of money and what must be realized is that most bookies always win and gamblers always lose and this is what they might consider cheating or cheating gambling. And what gamblers must realize is that victory is certain, it's just that they are easily controlled by the game and when gamblers get the chance to win they don't stop and continue to play with full confidence and ambition that the next bet will win again. But in reality losing and continuing to have curiosity makes gamblers lose control and lose everything they should have when they win they stop so they get victory no matter how much they win, but it is very rare for gamblers to have if like that and play with full awareness so as not to be controlled by the game.

[hahay]

Are you serious, about gambling bringing more evil than good? Because after all, the gambling industry itself continues to grow, if gambling was seen or judged as an evil, then the gambling industry would not continue to grow large and fast so far. If gambling brought about a very worrying evil, then surely today gambling would not have a place in many countries but anyway, the reality is that even in countries that prohibit gambling, gambling continues to grow and develop. So yes, I personally don't feel there should be anything to worry about as long as the gambling industry is still always growing, because that means proving that gambling is still fine even though there are some of them that have bad cases. But it really doesn't damage the gambling industry itself.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

To get it straight up, some countries are not even helping the situation on ground, when you're paying your diligent task as a gambling operator then the government will not set you as a target, unlike those who refused to comply with such policy of paying task in gambling, though this may varies depending on the countries we all find ourself, but from the approach in which these said government have over gambling, i don't see it as a complete compliance because they are also being biased in this situation, they have no justification to call gambling illegal, they also display being partial by accepting taxes from some of it operators while frustrating on others for none compliance.

[iv4n]

3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge.

Like with many other vices, it's all fun & games as long as you can control it, and as long as you spend only what you can afford to lose. Once those limits are crossed things can go against human nature and common sense... so gambling is and will stay a vice, and we can't change that narrative.

But we shouldn't bother about what other people think or feel about gambling, we need to do be free and do things we like to do... as long as we don't hurt/harm anyone.

[Su-asa]

Are you serious, about gambling bringing more evil than good? Because after all, the gambling industry itself continues to grow, if gambling was seen or judged as an evil, then the gambling industry would not continue to grow large and fast so far. If gambling brought about a very worrying evil, then surely today gambling would not have a place in many countries but anyway, the reality is that even in countries that prohibit gambling, gambling continues to grow and develop. So yes, I personally don't feel there should be anything to worry about as long as the gambling industry is still always growing, because that means proving that gambling is still fine even though there are some of them that have bad cases. But it really doesn't damage the gambling industry itself.

Those that brings bad names to the gamble industry are faulty of this, when they gamble irresponsible ways others sees them and think gamble does evil than good. Some that sees only the effects of gamble will not believe when they see a responsible gambler. However if gamble was a bad thing to do it would not have been popular cause gamblers and upcoming gamblers will not have any interest to gamble.

[ultrloa]

Are you serious, about gambling bringing more evil than good? Because after all, the gambling industry itself continues to grow, if gambling was seen or judged as an evil, then the gambling industry would not continue to grow large and fast so far. If gambling brought about a very worrying evil, then surely today gambling would not have a place in many countries but anyway, the reality is that even in countries that prohibit gambling, gambling continues to grow and develop. So yes, I personally don't feel there should be anything to worry about as long as the gambling industry is still always growing, because that means proving that gambling is still fine even though there are some of them that have bad cases. But it really doesn't damage the gambling industry itself.

Those that brings bad names to the gamble industry are faulty of this, when they gamble irresponsible ways others sees them and think gamble does evil than good. Some that sees only the effects of gamble will not believe when they see a responsible gambler. However if gamble was a bad thing to do it would not have been popular cause gamblers and upcoming gamblers will not have any interest to gamble.

Maybe they are religious guys and try to think about gambling is pure evil. They didn't even realize that what actually negative about that is the person actions towards how they deal with gambling. If they are greedy and going after for huge gains without thinking about other consequences then provably that they would experience that hard losing especially if they cannot handle that situation so well.

If they are just responsible enough dealing with their gambling activities and know what to do regarding on what situation occurs to them then provably that they will not get affected to much if they are losing and could able to good decisions when they are already winning.

Its just people's decision contributes on what possibly outcome on what they do on their gambling activities.

[God Of Thunder]

I agree with that too, the OP will just have to comply with the countries laws in
terms of gambling. We dont know what country that is, all countries in Europe
for example have a legal stance on gambling so its easy for us to make the
choice to gamble or not.

I'm guessing that the OP's country are protecting its citizens from themselves
but also depriving them of making their own choices.

I don't think the OP is from any European country because if he were, he wouldn't create such a thread. But even if he is from a European country yet created this thread, then he is probably talking about society's point of view toward gamblers. It is known that gamblers aren't seen as saints anywhere because of some mad gamblers. They get addicted or start gambling at a young age and destroy their lives because they cannot control themselves.

If OP is from an Arab country or some Asian country, then he would be in trouble if he ever dared to speak against the gambling law in public. He will get arrested and the government will take action against him. So, it depends from where he belongs.

[mak013]

It isn`t a bad idea. Bad idea is to think that you can get easy money from gambling. If you have a strategy, use risk and money management, analyze matches before betting you can get stable profit. But it will not be easy money, it will become aa job.
But anyway i don`t see any problems with gambling and any reason to prohibit it. If someone becomes gambling addict - it is his problem, but not the problem of gambling. The only thing we must worry about - is that it must be legally casino. In such a way the gamblers will be protected with the law.

Yes of course and one of the reasons why making money in gambling is always a bad and wrong intention and goal is because in any case gambling can never be used as a place to overcome financial problems, because there is no way, method or anything that can guarantee that you will always win at the end of the game, but yes of course apart from that it does not mean that you can't win at all because there must be a time for you to be lucky, but on the other hand honestly I can't say that you will always be able to get stable profits just because you have a good way or strategy in analyzing because of course there will be a lot of unexpected things that can happen on the field throughout the game and I have experienced several times that made me lose, the point is to gamble without exceeding your abilities especially in terms of money and limit your expectations of victory.

You may lose for some time, may be even few weeks(my "record" was 3 weeks without profit) but if you continue betting as usual, you will get profit on a long distance. The main idea not to miss analyzed events and don`t change anything. One month you`ll get $50 and the next one - if would be $1500. The result for two months would be $750, not so bad as for me. Just two serious problems: first is don`t panic and don`t stop during "lose streak". Second: if you catch "lose streak" at start and have not enough money to "win streak".

[Kelward]

Are you serious, about gambling bringing more evil than good? Because after all, the gambling industry itself continues to grow, if gambling was seen or judged as an evil, then the gambling industry would not continue to grow large and fast so far. If gambling brought about a very worrying evil, then surely today gambling would not have a place in many countries but anyway, the reality is that even in countries that prohibit gambling, gambling continues to grow and develop. So yes, I personally don't feel there should be anything to worry about as long as the gambling industry is still always growing, because that means proving that gambling is still fine even though there are some of them that have bad cases. But it really doesn't damage the gambling industry itself.

Gambling is not evil, but just like every other activities that people engage in it has it's negative sides and it depends on individual gamblers whether they want to explore it or not. If you gamble responsibly you'll enjoy the fun of giving yourself the thrill of trying your luck but if you gamble irresponsibly that means that you'll experience the negative sides of it. Everybody is responsible for their gambling habits, therefore they should try and take control so that they don't end up being addicted. I must admit that  without discipline or control in gambling it is easy to get carried away and become addicted, this happens mainly if a gambler continues to chase loses.

[davis196]

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

The things mentioned in your list can only be applied to moderate gamblers. Gambling addicts can steal, scam and ruin the lives of their families. Just don't put all gamblers in the same category. Some gamblers can do really evil stuff, while most gamblers are pretty much normal people.
Most people don't view gambling as illegal. They view gambling as dangerous, unethical or just a waste of money and time. I kinda understand their point of view, but they have to know that making gambling illegal won't solve the problem and it won't stop the gamblers from gambling.
Some drugs are illegal, but that doesn't stop drug addicts from taking them.

[mammusu]

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

The things mentioned in your list can only be applied to moderate gamblers. Gambling addicts can steal, scam and ruin the lives of their families. Just don't put all gamblers in the same category. Some gamblers can do really evil stuff, while most gamblers are pretty much normal people.
Most people don't view gambling as illegal. They view gambling as dangerous, unethical or just a waste of money and time. I kinda understand their point of view, but they have to know that making gambling illegal won't solve the problem and it won't stop the gamblers from gambling.
Some drugs are illegal, but that doesn't stop drug addicts from taking them.

I agree that if gamblers are not thieves or fraudsters, because they are indeed two different characters, we must admit that many gamblers carry out gambling activities responsibly which in the end can prevent them from criminal acts such as theft and fraud, but we also cannot deny that gambling can trigger someone to commit theft and fraud,  Moreover, those who are addicted will actually look for various ways to get money to gamble, I think in this case the effects of gambling that lead to the occurrence of crime are no longer an open secret for us, so far there have been many cases where we have seen someone end up in prison just for committing theft and fraud after their being entangled in gambling.  

[Wakate]

I want to bring to our notice that we all have to stand in support for gambling, because its now becoming so alarming that the government as well as some individual have always been seeing gambling as an illegal thing to do, well this is not what we can force anyone go against his will, but then, we also have to know what we stand for, whom we are and also be proud of it by making our stand, therefore i bring to you the following.

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

Gambling could be illegal in some regions but there are still places where gambling is legal but with restrictions to a certain age limit. As a gambler that have been gambling in a region where gaming is legal, I've always ensure that I don't over do it or gamble when I don't have the interest or urge to bet on games. Once you understand the rules that are involved in gambling, you will not bother much about what others think about your gambling activities.

I know their are still people that are gambling recklessly which is not supposed to be so, many people see that gambling is not a good activity that could earn us money. People that know what gamble is and the benefits will educate those that feel like it's just a waste of time and money.

[rodskee]

Are you serious, about gambling bringing more evil than good?

people probably think this way because most of the things they hear about gambling is only negative because it is what most media will report and it applies to their narrative that gambling is bad meanwhile they never report just how much gamblers are out there that get away unscathed gamblers who go on to live a mediocre life (not winning something big also not losing big) are not reported but there is still a lot of them

So yes, I personally don't feel there should be anything to worry about as long as the gambling industry is still always growing, because that means proving that gambling is still fine even though there are some of them that have bad cases. But it really doesn't damage the gambling industry itself.

not only the industry but the culture, the perception, the understanding of gambling are all growing gamblers are developing and how we think of gambling is also changing by the minute

[Ricardo11]

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

The things mentioned in your list can only be applied to moderate gamblers. Gambling addicts can steal, scam and ruin the lives of their families. Just don't put all gamblers in the same category. Some gamblers can do really evil stuff, while most gamblers are pretty much normal people.
Most people don't view gambling as illegal. They view gambling as dangerous, unethical or just a waste of money and time. I kinda understand their point of view, but they have to know that making gambling illegal won't solve the problem and it won't stop the gamblers from gambling.
Some drugs are illegal, but that doesn't stop drug addicts from taking them.

Although many people initially start gambling just for fun, it gradually turns into an addiction. When a gambler starts gambling, he will gradually sink into its addiction.
Yes, gambling has become a common thing in the present times, people in society now gamble openly (especially the number of teenage gamblers), but no one gives them any kind of sanction. Therefore, it is not possible to completely solve this problem by legally banning gambling or declaring it a crime.
However, this problem can be reduced to a large extent, and for this, first of all, a healthy society must be created, awareness must be raised in the society, the evils of gambling and addiction must be discussed from the beginning, and every parent should pay special attention to their children. Everyone should unite and cure gambling, only then can it be possible to keep the next generation away from its harmful effects.

[TopTort777]

Give a try to change gambling equals bad in peoples head and in no time you will become hates or a person that tried to hook someone on gambling. I think its in peoples DNA already, that gambling is bad. You can do whatever you want, but people will always keep thinking that gambling is evil and blame gambling instead of their own greed. When people hear word gambling, thoughts like scam, cheating, losing, fail, addiction quickly appear in their head. Replace "I have twisted wheel with amount of discount" with "I gambled" and parents will start thinking about abandoning you  

[Samlucky O]

Give a try to change gambling equals bad in peoples head and in no time you will become hates or a person that tried to hook someone on gambling. I think its in peoples DNA already, that gambling is bad. You can do whatever you want, but people will always keep thinking that gambling is evil and blame gambling instead of their own greed. When people hear word gambling, thoughts like scam, cheating, losing, fail, addiction quickly appear in their head. Replace "I have twisted wheel with amount of discount" with "I gambled" and parents will start thinking about abandoning you  

The overall fault and bad name given to gambling is caused by the gamblers. Gambling on its own is just a verb or noun used to describe the synonyms or the overall function of betting or sport but doesn't make it bad. because we can not give human attribute to inanimate which includes calling gambling a bad names perhaps people behind the mask of gambling are the ones. If everyone could control their greedy behavior, I think gambling would not have answered such bad names . I believe even though people call gambling all sorts of bad name, yet some gamblers are not as bad as people thought. I would say it's depends on individual, if a bad individual gambles his attitude will follow suit with the gambling while a good person who gambles will still answer a good name.

[danherbias07]

Give a try to change gambling equals bad in peoples head and in no time you will become hates or a person that tried to hook someone on gambling. I think its in peoples DNA already, that gambling is bad. You can do whatever you want, but people will always keep thinking that gambling is evil and blame gambling instead of their own greed. When people hear word gambling, thoughts like scam, cheating, losing, fail, addiction quickly appear in their head. Replace "I have twisted wheel with amount of discount" with "I gambled" and parents will start thinking about abandoning you  

I think that kind of perspective will not be easily erased unless the parents also gambled back in the day. They will probably understand it more and will try to find a way to change their kid. Better, they will use themselves to be an example of a change and how it can be overcome.
But there's a little chance that parents who didn't gamble in their life will accept a son who honestly told them that he gambled the money because they might not understand.
But with the online casinos now which can be easily accessed, I bet many parents are now doing it and they might be the ones who will be the root of all the cause if the kids will find out what they are doing.

[Reatim]

To get it straight up, some countries are not even helping the situation on ground, when you're paying your diligent task as a gambling operator then the government will not set you as a target, unlike those who refused to comply with such policy of paying task in gambling

if a government is accepting taxes from casinos or other gambling platforms then it is not illegal in the country it is only illegal if the casino is operating without license and without making themselves known to the government unless explicitly stated that any kind of gambling, with license or not, is not allowed in the country

of course the government would want any casino to register because they want to have some jurisdiction over the gambling operators and gamblers themselves they want to monitor these casinos hence why you will be called to be operating illegally if you do not comply to them

[maydna]

To get it straight up, some countries are not even helping the situation on ground, when you're paying your diligent task as a gambling operator then the government will not set you as a target, unlike those who refused to comply with such policy of paying task in gambling

if a government is accepting taxes from casinos or other gambling platforms then it is not illegal in the country it is only illegal if the casino is operating without license and without making themselves known to the government unless explicitly stated that any kind of gambling, with license or not, is not allowed in the country

of course the government would want any casino to register because they want to have some jurisdiction over the gambling operators and gamblers themselves they want to monitor these casinos hence why you will be called to be operating illegally if you do not comply to them

That will depend on the country situation because a country that allow gambling want to impose taxes to all business in their country. That can be their additional income for their country so that is why the government wants to regulated the casinos under their law. The casino can not do anything except just obey the regulation especially if they still want to operate in that country. The country will take care the casino under the country so casino can operate without any problem and their members can feel safe because the government monitor the casinos.