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January 25, 2025, 08:24:06 PM
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Hello everyone,

I would like to ask a few questions regarding the use of AI on this forum. Recently, I noticed some negative feedback towards users who use AI in their posts or responses. I would like to discuss the following points:

1. Is using AI to improve and refine responses considered a mistake on this forum? I believe the main goal is to provide relevant and accurate information.

2. Considering the increasing use of AI in the digital world, is it reasonable to completely ban its use on this forum? AI can provide useful and relevant information, as long as the results are carefully filtered.

3. Many other platforms have started adding features like "this content was created by AI." Could this forum consider a similar feature, rather than completely banning AI use?

I would love to hear the thoughts of the entire forum community on this matter. Thank you for your time and responses!
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January 25, 2025, 09:55:06 PM
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1. Is using AI to improve and refine responses considered a mistake on this forum? I believe the main goal is to provide relevant and accurate information.

It depends on what you mean by refining a response. If you are simply correcting your grammar mistakes, then it is not really a problem. If you are using AI to craft your entire reply, then it is better not to do it. AI is still very stupid sometimes, and you may end up replying with something that is wrong or unhelpful.

Given the incentives there are for posting on the forum, AI use should be discouraged; otherwise, many people will resort to spamming as much as possible so they can hit the maximum quota allowed in their signature campaign.
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January 25, 2025, 10:39:41 PM
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Friend, technology, including AI, continues to evolve rapidly, and we won't be able to stop it. The best solution is for us to adapt to these changes, just like other platforms that continuously strive to adjust to AI advancements to remain relevant and useful. 🙏
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January 25, 2025, 10:57:18 PM
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Friend, technology, including AI, continues to evolve rapidly, and we won't be able to stop it. The best solution is for us to adapt to these changes, just like other platforms that continuously strive to adjust to AI advancements to remain relevant and useful. 🙏

So, what's your suggestion then? If admins decide to fully allow the use of AI tools to generate posts, how can we prevent abuse and ensure that the answers are relevant and accurate?
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January 25, 2025, 11:38:22 PM
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Admins still filter posts based on their relevance and accuracy, whether users use AI or not. This approach ensures quality is maintained regardless of the method used. For comparison, YouTube has also introduced an "AI modification" feature for creators who utilize AI, providing additional control to ensure the content meets the platform's standards. A similar step could be implemented in this forum, focusing on content monitoring and moderation to prevent misuse while supporting innovation. 🙏
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January 26, 2025, 01:29:17 AM
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1. Is using AI to improve and refine responses considered a mistake on this forum? I believe the main goal is to provide relevant and accurate information.

It depends on what you mean by refining a response. If you are simply correcting your grammar mistakes, then it is not really a problem. If you are using AI to craft your entire reply, then it is better not to do it. AI is still very stupid sometimes, and you may end up replying with something that is wrong or unhelpful.

Given the incentives there are for posting on the forum, AI use should be discouraged; otherwise, many people will resort to spamming as much as possible so they can hit the maximum quota allowed in their signature campaign.
Spot on.
A prime example of incorrect AI 'answers' is it all too often calling mining "a process of solving complex mathematical equations". There is nothing 'complex' about it. Ja strictly speaking it is an equation but all a miner is doing is hashing gazillions of random number strings using a very simple algorithm and compares the result of each hash to the work sent to it. If it exceeds target difficulty - you've cracked a block. If not - it tries a different number string. Rinse & repeat doing this trillions of times per second.

Then there are translators: Been in existence for DECADES and in many ways are the earliest AI. We all know how embarrassingly wrong results can be to-this-day. Getting better with most now looking deeper at the context of what is being translated and applying appropriate language rules but still often not right.

That aside, excessively relying on AI to craft posts does not let you actually learn something - that takes understanding the How and Why of things and to understand that takes researching or at least taking a deep look into whatever you are asking about. Not just what it is, more important is - how it actually works. AI just give a single answer while providing no context of what underlies the answer.
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January 26, 2025, 02:02:07 AM
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Admins still filter posts based on their relevance and accuracy, whether users use AI or not. This approach ensures quality is maintained regardless of the method used. For comparison, YouTube has also introduced an "AI modification" feature for creators who utilize AI, providing additional control to ensure the content meets the platform's standards. A similar step could be implemented in this forum, focusing on content monitoring and moderation to prevent misuse while supporting innovation. 🙏

You are proving the point of why AI generated content should not be allowed. It is obvious that you used AI to write this answer. Your post is vaguely on-topic but sounds unnatural and doesn’t entirely make sense. It is not the admins responsibility to check whether every post is factually accurate and it would be impossible for a small mod team to read through thousands of posts that are written each day to be able to filter them.

I don’t know about what YouTube is doing, but I still see a ton of AI garbage from people looking to make a quick buck. These videos are usually not labeled in any way to indicate they are AI generated and watching them, even for a few seconds, is never pleasant. This is not the kind of content that is desirable to have on this forum.
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January 26, 2025, 02:30:11 AM
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Admins still filter posts based on their relevance and accuracy, whether users use AI or not. This approach ensures quality is maintained regardless of the method used. For comparison, YouTube has also introduced an "AI modification" feature for creators who utilize AI, providing additional control to ensure the content meets the platform's standards. A similar step could be implemented in this forum, focusing on content monitoring and moderation to prevent misuse while supporting innovation. 🙏
No. The Admins do not filter the posts: Yes there is some background automatic filtering done to weed out things like Gift Card scams but virtually all 'filtering' is done by us users of the Forum flagging a post and reporting it to the section moderator. Only then do the moderators look at it and decide what to do with it.
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January 26, 2025, 07:17:12 AM
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okay friend, thanks for the explanation, I understand it. have a nice day.
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January 27, 2025, 06:57:24 PM
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AI use should be OK if the content generated is mostly your idea otherwise it shouldn't be allowed without explicitly stating it's AI generated. For example you could feed an AI very detailed information on what to generate, and tell it to refine it and not deviate from the given information. This should help avoid human related grammatical/spelling errors without deviating much from the content you feed it

 I also expect AI to add references to the sources of its generated  not-so-original contents. It could be stated at the edge of each generated content or probably as very faint watermark, unless the contents significantly improved on the original one where it's generated from.  Paraphrased contents for example without much valuable additional information could be considered plagiarized.

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February 12, 2025, 01:58:58 PM
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Nah man, this AI farming needs to stop. Been here since 2017 and you can smell these AI posts from a mile away too clean, same structure every time, trying way too hard to sound smart.

This forum was built on real degens sharing actual experiences and pure unfiltered takes. Now we're getting these essay style responses that read like a Bloomberg article, be original and I'm telling you, there will be rewards.  Ofc Ai can enhance some stuff, BUT FROM YOUR TAKE.
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February 20, 2025, 11:06:37 AM
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Hello everyone,

I would like to ask a few questions regarding the use of AI on this forum. Recently, I noticed some negative feedback towards users who use AI in their posts or responses. I would like to discuss the following points:

1. Is using AI to improve and refine responses considered a mistake on this forum? I believe the main goal is to provide relevant and accurate information.

2. Considering the increasing use of AI in the digital world, is it reasonable to completely ban its use on this forum? AI can provide useful and relevant information, as long as the results are carefully filtered.

3. Many other platforms have started adding features like "this content was created by AI." Could this forum consider a similar feature, rather than completely banning AI use?

I would love to hear the thoughts of the entire forum community on this matter. Thank you for your time and responses!


The bitcointalk platform is highily prohibited of spamming and using the AI to generate posts in disguise is as plagiarism also prohibited in the forum.
The forum is aided the requirements of human capacity when contributing to the forum. That is basically to encourage evaluation of human capacity to how we can stay informed and get problems solved to an extend but then, the forum is not limited of users going on research either in the internet or the AI for consultations or enquiries to optimize your learning or capacity.
This reason is why those users with technical knowledge in the forum is highily noted and earning more merits as well deserved due to the degree of their mental capacities effortlessly being contributed to the forum.
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March 14, 2025, 06:00:08 AM
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There are many free to use AI text detectors available on the internet:

https://www.grammarly.com/ai-detector
https://justdone.ai/ai-detector
https://gptzero.me/

The internet being the funny place it is, there are also apps intended to make AI generated text harder to detect:

https://undetectable.ai/detector-humanizer

I for one could care less if forum responses are AI generated.

AI isn't developed enough to craft intelligent responses capable of competing with competent humans.

Until it is, there won't be an issue.
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April 12, 2025, 03:51:04 AM
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Nah man, this AI farming needs to stop. Been here since 2017

Uhh... your account was registered in Jan 2014.

and you can smell these AI posts from a mile away too clean, same structure every time, trying way too hard to sound smart.

That's funny because you literally used Grok to write a post for you just half an hour before posting this.

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April 14, 2025, 06:15:21 AM
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That's funny because you literally used Grok to write a post for you just half an hour before posting this.

How are you able to determine Grok was used? Just a curious question. I didn't knew we could identify which AI models were used!
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April 14, 2025, 01:07:12 PM
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How are you able to determine Grok was used? Just a curious question. I didn't knew we could identify which AI models were used!

It's probably better for the tools like that to not be shared here publicly as people will find a new way to shitpost and restructure their phrasing and such and stay more undetected, it's probably not that hard to find the these tools themselves anyway but if you are too lazy to change a single word in your message then chances are you probably can't make your AI generated answer in a way that stays undetected for long.
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