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January 27, 2025, 06:53:25 AM
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Making a new thread for sports bettors to post their trap of day games. What's a trap game you ask? A game where the odds literally make 0 sense and the odds are too good to be true.

Let's start off with this one from the Korean woman's basketball league today.

https://www.flashscore.com/match/nojsdJVH/#/match-summary
Hana Bank ( 5 - 16 ) vs Woori MON ( 15 -7 )

Woori is currently only a 2.5 points favorite with money line odds of 1.62. Hana lost the last 5 games while Woori won 5 of the last 6. Also, head to head Woori won the last 18 (!!) games against Hana Bank.
These 2 teams played against each other 12 days ago, also a home game for Hana Bank. The odds for Woori to win that one have been 1.25, compared to the 1.62 they have today that's HUGE.

So how on earth do we have these odds in here?? Injury wise there is no information to be found online by the way.


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January 27, 2025, 09:01:37 AM
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When it comes to spotting traps, it really depends on the person analyzing them. I’ve been using the formula of betting against the public, but my intuition isn’t always correct. Even if it works most of the time, discipline is key, as without proper bankroll management, you won’t truly know if the method is effective in the long run.

This doesn’t just happen in one specific league; I’ve seen it in the NBA and even in local basketball. There are lines that look like traps, and most of the time, my predictions are right. I think having a solid familiarity with the league really helps in spotting these traps accurately.

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January 27, 2025, 10:04:42 AM
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I believe this is related to certain player missing out the game either injury or out of the game due to personal reason.

I experienced trap like this when I bet on Rockets few days ago against Kings. They have high odds to win which I thought a steal since they are 2nd seed and winning 7 straight until I found out on the game that Fred VanVleet is out for the game due to personal reason.

Rockets lose in a close fight though.

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January 27, 2025, 11:00:55 AM
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Making a new thread for sports bettors to post their trap of day games. What's a trap game you ask? A game where the odds literally make 0 sense and the odds are too good to be true.
This trap is only possible to be identified by experienced gamblers who does not only place their bets due to the attractions of the odds such as when it seems too good to stake on.

Instead of considering the odds, it is better and wise to consider the teams and weights your predictions based on their capacities because taking decisions based on the odds can be entrapping.
You would either be convinced to chase the high odd especially when an underdog has the highest odds and the other side you might have the thought that picking the lower odds would give you a lesser risk so just judging by the odds can really set you up to what you never thought about like you are being manipulated.











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January 27, 2025, 11:09:46 AM
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I believe this is related to certain player missing out the game either injury or out of the game due to personal reason.


That wouldn’t be "too good to be true," and it’s not necessarily a "trap." I’ve noticed these situations happen often, and just looking at the line can already give you a sense that the game might be a trap. The tricky part is figuring out which side is the right one.

A trap happens when the line feels off, making you question why it’s set that way. As a smart bettor, you’d typically go against the public's perception and choose the side that seems less likely to win in their eyes. That’s how you avoid falling into the trap, but it’s easier said than done!

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January 27, 2025, 11:23:06 AM
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I believe this is related to certain player missing out the game either injury or out of the game due to personal reason.


That wouldn’t be "too good to be true," and it’s not necessarily a "trap." I’ve noticed these situations happen often, and just looking at the line can already give you a sense that the game might be a trap. The tricky part is figuring out which side is the right one.

A trap happens when the line feels off, making you question why it’s set that way. As a smart bettor, you’d typically go against the public's perception and choose the side that seems less likely to win in their eyes. That’s how you avoid falling into the trap, but it’s easier said than done!

This is the common problem for pregame bettor like me that doesn’t have time to watch the actual game before betting. I don’t read much news about player update only the injury reports which no one is listed that time.

It’s really not a trap per se but it’s considered as trap for those bettors that doesn’t do thorough analysis and just rely on stats from previous matches. Who would thought that a team on W7 will lose on lower rank team without any injury reports on team members.

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January 27, 2025, 11:31:45 AM
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When it comes to spotting traps, it really depends on the person analyzing them. I’ve been using the formula of betting against the public, but my intuition isn’t always correct. Even if it works most of the time, discipline is key, as without proper bankroll management, you won’t truly know if the method is effective in the long run.

This doesn’t just happen in one specific league; I’ve seen it in the NBA and even in local basketball. There are lines that look like traps, and most of the time, my predictions are right. I think having a solid familiarity with the league really helps in spotting these traps accurately.
Bookmakers' lines are very large now and it is not easy to do everything without mistakes, especially if it concerns other, less popular leagues. But it seems to me that it is quite possible to play without looking for traps, it will be enough to focus on one league, which you follow constantly and are aware of all the events on most teams. And in other leagues, or women's basketball, which I do not understand at all, it would be difficult for me to determine where the mistake is, especially since information about the teams is not so easy to find.

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January 27, 2025, 11:40:53 AM
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I believe this is related to certain player missing out the game either injury or out of the game due to personal reason.


That wouldn’t be "too good to be true," and it’s not necessarily a "trap." I’ve noticed these situations happen often, and just looking at the line can already give you a sense that the game might be a trap. The tricky part is figuring out which side is the right one.

A trap happens when the line feels off, making you question why it’s set that way. As a smart bettor, you’d typically go against the public's perception and choose the side that seems less likely to win in their eyes. That’s how you avoid falling into the trap, but it’s easier said than done!

This is the common problem for pregame bettor like me that doesn’t have time to watch the actual game before betting. I don’t read much news about player update only the injury reports which no one is listed that time.

It’s really not a trap per se but it’s considered as trap for those bettors that doesn’t do thorough analysis and just rely on stats from previous matches. Who would thought that a team on W7 will lose on lower rank team without any injury reports on team members.

Sometimes it’s not just about injuries or being out of the loop, it’s about spotting something off. A trap game can also hint at a possible fix. When you read the reports, the information might seem legit, but then the line doesn’t match what you’d expect based on that analysis. That’s the trap, when everything looks right on paper, but the line feels off. If you’ve done your homework and something still doesn’t add up, it’s a clear red flag to tread carefully.

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January 27, 2025, 02:04:16 PM
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This is why it's always good to have some sort of information about teams before ever trying to bet on them because that will build you an edge to not fall for some kind of betting traps like you have mentioned,  there are times you get to see certain odds and because you have vast knowledge about  how such sport does work and some knowledge of the teams, you will not fall for it based on your analysis because you have sufficient information enough to help you make an informed choice so you don't depend on the casino perspective as projected in the odds.
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January 27, 2025, 03:30:27 PM
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I believe this is related to certain player missing out the game either injury or out of the game due to personal reason.


That wouldn’t be "too good to be true," and it’s not necessarily a "trap." I’ve noticed these situations happen often, and just looking at the line can already give you a sense that the game might be a trap. The tricky part is figuring out which side is the right one.

A trap happens when the line feels off, making you question why it’s set that way. As a smart bettor, you’d typically go against the public's perception and choose the side that seems less likely to win in their eyes. That’s how you avoid falling into the trap, but it’s easier said than done!

Yeah NBA doesn't have any traps. All player injuries are well documented and every player that doesn't play mostly gets announced at least hours before the game. So you won't find odds in the NBA that are too good to be true. Sometimes you see it in the NCAA where some odds make absolutely no sense at all, but that's it for North America. Rest of the world is a different story.
I have stepped in several traps in my life to be honest, and mostly on some smaller leagues. One time I bought a +39.5 handicap in Denmark because it really seemed too high. The game went great, after 23min my team was down 3 points, so I am up 36 points with 17min to play. They lost by 41 points because of a 35:3 run that was the beginning of the end. One of my worst handicap losses ever.


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January 27, 2025, 03:38:46 PM
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Trap as we know is something very common in sports betting we can decide not to be against the public and later realized that we are losing it, most times we can see that betting against public can give us some winning but without knowing that there could be changes either injury from players or keepers that could cause some odds changes.
I can also see that most time the bookies usually gives lower odds to losing team and to those who are regularly judging by odds could be triggered to choose the lower odds without knowing that the bookies likely gives the odds to winning team, I do check my analysis through multiple sites to see if there is possible odds manipulations on the teams.
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Am not a good sport predictor, even if I bet on a game that too good to be true I won't notice unless I tried to bet on low odds but made a mistake to click the bigger odds. Well that's called a mistake and not a trap. Gamble can be fun most times, so even though you mistakenly played the odd you don't want to, you might be lucky to win. The only thing that looks like a trap to me is when the best player of the club didn't play based on injuries or something.

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Each gambler must be aware that there are no "crazy odds". it's really hard to get an error odds.
I have seen just few on my entire gambling life (+20 years) and in some cases there was just a rigged match or wrong odds were "suspended".

The real question (at least to me ) is = why you need to gamble in an event where you don't have any clue on what they are playing, their current standing or even player on each team?
If you think you're doing good just betting looking for some "random numbers" (the odds) and "random words" (the name of the team).
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Making a new thread for sports bettors to post their trap of day games. What's a trap game you ask? A game where the odds literally make 0 sense and the odds are too good to be true.
If the odds for a game is simply too good to be true, how come gamblers find it difficult to just avoid it. The temptation to play these games is very high for sport bettors, very high that I can lead you into ignoring any sense of reasoning that the bookmakers maybe know something or have an access to an information we lack. One thing is sure for me about this games that we can call the trap of the day, I always try to avoid them.
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Bookmakers might know something we don’t. I know these guys make mistakes sometimes but it is not like they do it all the time. If they weren’t calculating the odds right they’d go out of business real quick because there are many people like you who look for these kind of mistakes.

I have no insight about the game you are talking about btw but all I am saying is there is probably a reason for the odds of this game. You’ll know it when the game ends too probably.

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This is why it's always good to have some sort of information about teams before ever trying to bet on them because that will build you an edge to not fall for some kind of betting traps like you have mentioned,  there are times you get to see certain odds and because you have vast knowledge about  how such sport does work and some knowledge of the teams, you will not fall for it based on your analysis because you have sufficient information enough to help you make an informed choice so you don't depend on the casino perspective as projected in the odds.

The thing is, there are news that are not really out in the public until game time. And just like NBA bettors, I have been trapped as well like when the Bucks faces a team, I forgot about it, but suddenly for unknown reasons, Giannis didn't play.

Or the recent lost of the hometown team and the number 1 seed in the West which is the OKC against the Luka less Dallas Mavericks. OKC has been beating teams with double digits lead and mostly covering the handicap. Maybe it's not a trap but an upset, but still though, all sports bookies put them as the favorite.

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The thing is, there are news that are not really out in the public until game time.
Is this common in popular games though? I mainly follow football news and their coverage is huge. Depending on who you ask, you can get some made-up rumors to accurate insider information. It's not hard to imagine these insiders also leaking the news to a bookmaker, especially on unpopular competitions. This made me recall a thread talking about betting on some obscure games on this board. I guess the lesson shared on that thread also applies to the case described by OP.

Btw OP, the odds shared on the game you mentioned seem to have changed before the game started, CMIIW. You can probably ask the bookmaker how they determine the odds if they share how their calculation works. Maybe injuries don't affect it as much as social media trends.

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Personally, I find the concept of a “trap” a bit contradictory and confusing. But the expression “too good to be true” is funny. In general, I would go the classic way and stick to the vulue strategy. Our task is to determine the initial odds of the game as if we were unbiased bookmakers. Who take into account all available and relevant information, and all the rest of the change in odds occurs due to the change in the balance of bets between two or three outcomes of the game. And if you see an inflated odds, which is nevertheless probable in terms of winning, then it is worth considering as a working scenario.

 
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When it comes to spotting traps, it really depends on the person analyzing them. I’ve been using the formula of betting against the public, but my intuition isn’t always correct. Even if it works most of the time, discipline is key, as without proper bankroll management, you won’t truly know if the method is effective in the long run.
There really is no fool proof strategy. There is at least 2% or 3% error margin for all of the bets you place in total. It does not specifically mean that it is a failure but you have to expect that no matter how much you win in a specific strategy, there would come a time where it would not work.

The most important thing though is that generally or most of the time the strategy works.
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This doesn’t just happen in one specific league; I’ve seen it in the NBA and even in local basketball. There are lines that look like traps, and most of the time, my predictions are right. I think having a solid familiarity with the league really helps in spotting these traps accurately.
Being familiar with how the teams and how each athlete performs under different conditions will definitely help you identify traps.

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January 30, 2025, 09:19:10 AM
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The thing is, there are news that are not really out in the public until game time.
Is this common in popular games though? I mainly follow football news and their coverage is huge. Depending on who you ask, you can get some made-up rumors to accurate insider information. It's not hard to imagine these insiders also leaking the news to a bookmaker, especially on unpopular competitions. This made me recall a thread talking about betting on some obscure games on this board. I guess the lesson shared on that thread also applies to the case described by OP.

Btw OP, the odds shared on the game you mentioned seem to have changed before the game started, CMIIW. You can probably ask the bookmaker how they determine the odds if they share how their calculation works. Maybe injuries don't affect it as much as social media trends.

I think it will have consequences though if their is a last minute announcement in basketball (I assume he is talking about that game because he mentioned a basketball player), and so when the line is already open and you already put a bet assuming that there will be no injuries.

However, they announced it late as almost all the bettors have put their stakes already, for sure the line will change. And if you didn't notice it then you will be trap and obviously your bet will be a L already. This things usually happened in the NBA.

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