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February 02, 2025, 01:57:01 AM
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There are many governments in the world that are left behind by the advancement of technologies. It's also possible many governments just don't care. Or perhaps some of them simply underestimate the taxes lost because of unregulated online services.

The online economy is the largest in the world. In crypto alone, there are already billions of dollars at play with exchanges, lending and staking platforms, online gambling, and so on.

Failure to implement tight measures means a government misses on huge potential revenue. Global companies would easily exploit markets without paying any taxes, without being held accountable for their failures, freely preying on their citizens, and so on.

In the age of internet, governments should police their cyber territories more seriously.

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February 02, 2025, 02:30:45 AM
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There are many governments in the world that are left behind by the advancement of technologies. It's also possible many governments just don't care. Or perhaps some of them simply underestimate the taxes lost because of unregulated online services.

The online economy is the largest in the world. In crypto alone, there are already billions of dollars at play with exchanges, lending and staking platforms, online gambling, and so on.

Failure to implement tight measures means a government misses on huge potential revenue. Global companies would easily exploit markets without paying any taxes, without being held accountable for their failures, freely preying on their citizens, and so on.

In the age of internet, governments should police their cyber territories more seriously.

Technology is constantly evolving, I'm afraid if they are going to use AIs for this laws to be implemented then all other casinos may just be blocked and non will be useful anyone even if we use VPNs.

However there are something to gain from this industry which will support the government for funding through taxes. So while they regulate advertising on casinos, they might as well regulate who are allowed to play which means there really is the necessary for government to monitor the lives of people from ages, the kind of jobs and most probably gender of those who are allowed to gamble.

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February 02, 2025, 02:41:50 AM
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I mean I don't blame them? Rather than outright banning it, might as well just regulate it and benefit from casinos existing under their regulation. And I'd imagine it'd be a lot worse anyway if they just banned it off since EVERYONE would look for outside casinos. In this case at least only a part, those who really want the bang for buck in ther casino experience when it comes to playing. Not faulting anyone here though, they just want the best for themselves.

Still, if the government really wants to prevent this, they have to prevent users from bypassing geoblocks at least. Sadly you'd hardly find professionals in the cyber sec field in government positions lol. Private companies just pay way more than them.
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February 02, 2025, 04:31:35 AM
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Recently, in the year 2024, the brazilian government saw a large source of money coming into online casinos (since physical casinos are prohibited by law), and since then, so as not to make this post too long... the brazilian government had the "brilliant" idea of requiring that any casino that wanted to operate in brazil would have to regularize itself and follow the country's rules, or its website would be blocked.

As a result, users are preferring to use unregulated casinos (they access the casino website outside of brasil via VPN or other methods) and are able to get better and more attractive odds than regulated casinos that pay high taxes to the government... as these pass on the costs of taxation, licensing, etc. to users, while unregulated casinos don't need to pass on additional costs and for this reason are more attractive to users because they offer better odds!

This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship. Even though some casinos are banned from being accessed by brazilians, it is still possible to get around this ban via VPN and the like.

Gotta love the classic VPN by-pass! Its too bad these governments don't realize that they are giving up a nice chunk of crypto change if they would just allow it and ask for a small fee or something to freely operate in the region, i'm sure many casinos would pay a fee based on the winnings in a given region?

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February 02, 2025, 04:33:09 AM
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Recently, in the year 2024, the brazilian government saw a large source of money coming into online casinos (since physical casinos are prohibited by law), and since then, so as not to make this post too long... the brazilian government had the "brilliant" idea of requiring that any casino that wanted to operate in brazil would have to regularize itself and follow the country's rules, or its website would be blocked.
Getting a license in the country a casino wants to operate in the global standard. And paying taxes is not strange since the government needs the money to finance its projects.    

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As a result, users are preferring to use unregulated casinos (they access the casino website outside of brasil via VPN or other methods) and are able to get better and more attractive odds than regulated casinos that pay high taxes to the government... as these pass on the costs of taxation, licensing, etc. to users, while unregulated casinos don't need to pass on additional costs and for this reason are more attractive to users because they offer better odds!
It will depend on the percentage of the tax. Gamblers will always invade tax if it is high. But they would always use regulated platforms if the tax is moderate. We shouldn't forget that there is a high risk in using unregulated casinos. Casinos that are not registered can engage in forms of unfair practices and get away with it.    

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This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship. Even though some casinos are banned from being accessed by brazilians, it is still possible to get around this ban via VPN and the like.
Some top government officials are not advised well. They don't consult the right professionals for sound technical advice. They should know that it is not possible to totally block access to the internet. There will always be means to bypass these restrictions. Therefore, instead of making stringent laws to push people to unregulated platforms, they should make less stringent laws.      

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February 02, 2025, 05:06:55 AM
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I see that in this area in some countries there are many stupid prohibitions. I have a feeling that national governments of some countries do not fully understand how the Internet works. The Internet erases borders and makes many national laws meaningless. We focus on laws, but we do not allow the thought that some national laws violate the natural rights of the population. I could ask: why does the government prohibit me from gambling? If my game is responsible and does not harm anyone in society, then it is quite strange to see prohibitions and restrictions. I think the Brazilian government could achieve higher tax collection if it showed more flexibility and if its policy was more liberal.

 
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February 02, 2025, 05:13:05 AM
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This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship.
No, the government understands it. They can’t ban use of the internet however they could penalize people who would go against their regulations and use online casinos that are prohibited in the country. For some people, the threat of a punishment is enough to deter them away from ever using these online casinos. For those who aren’t afraid well the government can punish them as they fit so it’s still a win for them.

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February 02, 2025, 05:13:38 AM
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Something similar is happening in my country. The government is torn between the laws of "allowed" and "not allowed.". In addition, they have banned many VPN sites, but it isn't easy to shut off the water if there are other holes. In the times of the Internet, it is difficult to ban something completely. Maybe some will not bother to find other casinos, but others, having found a way to bypass these "rules," will continue everything as before. This is called "fighting windmills," and until a consensus is reached between the people and the government, there will be a fight for freedom of choice, no matter how much they want to ban it.

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February 02, 2025, 05:19:20 AM
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The government needs to learn more about Internet and how it works. Related to their regulation, they should modify it to works as the situation that happen in their country. The government can block the casino access in their country but their people will use other ways to visit the casino.

Their people will search for the casino and use VPN to give easiness to them to playing gambling. Their people know which casino that is out from their country so they will not have a problem to playing gambling on that casino.

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February 02, 2025, 08:50:34 AM
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This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship. Even though some casinos are banned from being accessed by brazilians, it is still possible to get around this ban via VPN and the like.
Some of us do post about using VPN may not be good as it can lead to the gambling site ban the user because the user is accessing the gambling site from a restricted location or country but this is not 100% true. There are many offshore gambling sites that are truly not licensed and do not mind if their users use VPN. The users trust the gambling site as it gets older and having higher reputation. But as for me, I will still prefer to use a regulated gambling site which gives me peace of mind that my money is safe.

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I mean I don't blame them? Rather than outright banning it, might as well just regulate it and benefit from casinos existing under their regulation. And I'd imagine it'd be a lot worse anyway if they just banned it off since EVERYONE would look for outside casinos. In this case at least only a part, those who really want the bang for buck in ther casino experience when it comes to playing. Not faulting anyone here though, they just want the best for themselves.
This usually happens when the government is way too proud and stern in their beliefs. Not thinking about the possible economic benefits of just regulating casinos instead of completely erasing its operations in the country. Many countries have lost their chances of taking advantage of the gambling industry.
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Still, if the government really wants to prevent this, they have to prevent users from bypassing geoblocks at least. Sadly you'd hardly find professionals in the cyber sec field in government positions lol. Private companies just pay way more than them.
Hence why even not so tech experts can easily find ways to bypass geoblocks. If they couldn’t hire tech employees then maybe they should have regulated casinos lol. They would make more money there.
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February 02, 2025, 09:14:09 AM
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Recently, in the year 2024, the brazilian government saw a large source of money coming into online casinos (since physical casinos are prohibited by law), and since then, so as not to make this post too long...


As a result, users are preferring to use unregulated casinos (they access the casino website outside of brasil via VPN or other methods) and are able to get better and more attractive odds than regulated casinos that pay high taxes to the government...

This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this).

One thing about those things is that the moment people no that there government has imposed a serious regulations for casinos to abide they always find it very unease to continue patronizing them, so instead other casinos out side the control of their government will be the ones they would be willing to gamble. Perhaps the Brazilian government was thinking that asides from those in their country people will no longer bet on others without knowing that there are so many online casinos outside Brazil may not even restrict their country even if they may not have a direct card deposit but will use crypto instead and they will not no that something like that is happening because it will be anonymous to them.

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February 02, 2025, 09:25:58 AM
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As a result, users are preferring to use unregulated casinos (they access the casino website outside of brasil via VPN or other methods) and are able to get better and more attractive odds than regulated casinos that pay high taxes to the government... as these pass on the costs of taxation, licensing, etc. to users, while unregulated casinos don't need to pass on additional costs and for this reason are more attractive to users because they offer better odds!

And do you have some numbers to back these claims up?

Users who are playing with a  VPN on a casino that is known to be banned in their country is just doing stupid shit, one KYC request and you might end with all your funds confiscated and you absolutely have nowhere to go! Oh, you can go to the police and say you have been using an unlicensed gambling website to bet, and now you want your money back!

This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this).

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February 02, 2025, 09:56:53 AM
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Recently, in the year 2024, the brazilian government saw a large source of money coming into online casinos (since physical casinos are prohibited by law), and since then, so as not to make this post too long... the brazilian government had the "brilliant" idea of requiring that any casino that wanted to operate in brazil would have to regularize itself and follow the country's rules, or its website would be blocked.

As a result, users are preferring to use unregulated casinos (they access the casino website outside of brasil via VPN or other methods) and are able to get better and more attractive odds than regulated casinos that pay high taxes to the government... as these pass on the costs of taxation, licensing, etc. to users, while unregulated casinos don't need to pass on additional costs and for this reason are more attractive to users because they offer better odds!
Honestly, the Brazilian government is not doing a great job based on how they are making things hard for companies, especially in the crypto and casino space. With their habit, they are missing a lot of money they ought to have for developing the country, so there's no way people won't look for alternatives when the government is doing something that does not favor the masses.
I just hope the gamblers using VPN to access casinos use platforms like Casinopunkz which support the use of VPN so they won't lose their fund due to casino regulations.

This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship. Even though some casinos are banned from being accessed by brazilians, it is still possible to get around this ban via VPN and the like.
No, they fully understand how the internet works. But they are doing things based on their political strategy.
If the internet is resistant to censorship. Why do we have it in China, and North Korea?

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February 02, 2025, 09:59:31 AM
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Personally for me, I feel that if a country bans physical casino or bookies but doesn't ban the online casino and doesn't provide a strict rules of penalty against anyone caught using the online casino, that means  the country didn't actually ban gambling.

Like you already said, the internet space makes it possible for people to do some things that the government might not actually be able to censor and detect everyone, but I think the government are  smart enough to know that online gambling is even converting billions of people compare to physical casinos. So, what is the essence of banning physical casino when people can still bet online?.

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February 02, 2025, 12:10:43 PM
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This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship. Even though some casinos are banned from being accessed by brazilians, it is still possible to get around this ban via VPN and the like.

Gambling online and offline is legal in our country, so gamblers don't need VPNs to access online casinos only if the platform restricts our country.
If gambling is illegal in one country and they restrict access, its up to the player to take the risk to access the online casino.
The majority of the casinos do not allow the use of VPNs to access the casino, so if your country restricts their people, there is nothing you can do but play at a casino that allows it.
We have to respect our government decision because there are laws and cultural considerations that government are implementing.


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February 02, 2025, 12:13:48 PM
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I didn't know that there were such restrictions to gambling in Brazil. In fact, I always thought that Curacao was there (great mistake, as I've just learned that it is a small island in the Caribbean Embarrassed). It's never too late to learn, I suppose.

It's the same thing in other countries and you don't even need to use VPNs, usually you can circumvent DNS restrictions from the authorities by just using DNS-over-HTTPS features from browsers or operating systems. But even if citizens are able to find ways to get around restrictions, unlicensed foreign casinos are still not allowed to make any advertising in the said country. And if something bad happens with the casino, like any scam from the casino, it will be very hard to be able to get back anything.  

More than being scammed by a fraudulent website, what I'm thinking now is about the problems a Brazilian may have in the event that he wins a huge jackpot. What would happen with that money, even if he managed to get it into his bank account? Government could freeze it because it went from such a gambling service? or restrictions are only for service providers, but not for the national population?

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February 02, 2025, 12:38:12 PM
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The banning or regularization of casinos by govs has not resulted in anything
You cannot demand, you can't do much if you are blocked and your gambling account is closed if you choose the VPN path, all your risks are responsible for yourself.

Indeed online casinos that do not have permission or those who have permits do not affect the community, especially gamblers, but you must know the risk of using VPN and gambling risk on the official website, maybe you don't have any problems if you win small But when you are in large quantities that's where the problem occurs, the point is if it does not seem to have an effect and has a real impact, but online casinos are always close to problems, both the internet or other things.

Likewise with the level of security produced by VPN Casino or Official, the problem occurs when problematic.

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February 02, 2025, 01:05:15 PM
 #40

Recently, in the year 2024, the brazilian government saw a large source of money coming into online casinos (since physical casinos are prohibited by law), and since then, so as not to make this post too long... the brazilian government had the "brilliant" idea of requiring that any casino that wanted to operate in brazil would have to regularize itself and follow the country's rules, or its website would be blocked.

As a result, users are preferring to use unregulated casinos (they access the casino website outside of brasil via VPN or other methods) and are able to get better and more attractive odds than regulated casinos that pay high taxes to the government... as these pass on the costs of taxation, licensing, etc. to users, while unregulated casinos don't need to pass on additional costs and for this reason are more attractive to users because they offer better odds!

This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship. Even though some casinos are banned from being accessed by brazilians, it is still possible to get around this ban via VPN and the like.

I think these regulations can sometimes be harmful if they are absurd. There needs to be a degree of flexibility in the casino-government relationship to maintain order. Generally, governments impose certain restrictions for the following reasons:

1. Fraud and money laundering.
2. Taxes: a foreign company should not come to a country and take a cut without paying taxes.
3. Control: governments always want and need to control.

Although these users may use alternative options to bypass these restrictions, they are assuming they are breaking the law, which gives the casino the power to freeze and seize your funds whenever they want and the government the authority to punish you.
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