sports betting, skilled base or luck base?

[Altryist]

You have a good point with this concluding part, I don't know why some people would think that luck will take the whole stage in the entire gambling space; how feasible is that? Your money/risk management, analyses, discipline etc, play a huge role in limiting the reliance on luck, and even if you lose at times, you still get your account covered. This is unlike the person who is gambling recklessly with no good information, not to mention speculating rightly and having $1000 in his bankroll and still committing all the money into betting at once. Tell me, is that person not significantly relying on luck? This can't be compared to the person with proper skills and plan.

For me, playing for the entire allowed deposit is not even a game of luck, it is an inevitable loss in the next few bets. Even if you are lucky in the first bet, then in the next ones everything will end in defeat, otherwise it does not work. In gambling, only what you listed above will work, smart deposit management, risk management is what can easily get you through even a few losses and your deposit will be fine. So in gambling you should rely only on skill and in no case only on luck.

[EarnOnVictor]

You have a good point with this concluding part, I don't know why some people would think that luck will take the whole stage in the entire gambling space; how feasible is that? Your money/risk management, analyses, discipline etc, play a huge role in limiting the reliance on luck, and even if you lose at times, you still get your account covered. This is unlike the person who is gambling recklessly with no good information, not to mention speculating rightly and having $1000 in his bankroll and still committing all the money into betting at once. Tell me, is that person not significantly relying on luck? This can't be compared to the person with proper skills and plan.

For me, playing for the entire allowed deposit is not even a game of luck, it is an inevitable loss in the next few bets.

Well, some crazy people still do that, and what do you expect? They are expecting luck to take effect. If not, why would a sane person risk all his money at once without any regard to the money/risk management plan? That's irresponsible gambling, and it hurts the most if the money is lost. Still, it works for some people, and they get to make more money with such a high risk. This is what's emboldening others to try that, but I tell you, in most cases, it will amount to losses.

[Ricardo11]

You have a good point with this concluding part, I don't know why some people would think that luck will take the whole stage in the entire gambling space; how feasible is that? Your money/risk management, analyses, discipline etc, play a huge role in limiting the reliance on luck, and even if you lose at times, you still get your account covered. This is unlike the person who is gambling recklessly with no good information, not to mention speculating rightly and having $1000 in his bankroll and still committing all the money into betting at once. Tell me, is that person not significantly relying on luck? This can't be compared to the person with proper skills and plan.

For me, playing for the entire allowed deposit is not even a game of luck, it is an inevitable loss in the next few bets.

Well, some crazy people still do that, and what do you expect? They are expecting luck to take effect. If not, why would a sane person risk all his money at once without any regard to the money/risk management plan? That's irresponsible gambling, and it hurts the most if the money is lost. Still, it works for some people, and they get to make more money with such a high risk. This is what's emboldening others to try that, but I tell you, in most cases, it will amount to losses.

Those who always gamble with high risks, they always face high losses, no gambler's luck will always be good, they may win twice, but the third time they will definitely lose. So gambling with high risks is never rational, it will lead a gambler to huge losses in all aspects. First, if they get a lucky win with high risks at once time, then they become more confident, and later they gamble with more risks, which gradually leads them to bigger losses, Because they will never get this kind of win consistently. So gambling with high risks by engaging in such unnecessary thoughts, will only cause losses, so one must try to understand the right thing, and gamble by maintaining the right rules and restrictions.

[Koadharber]

You have a good point with this concluding part, I don't know why some people would think that luck will take the whole stage in the entire gambling space; how feasible is that? Your money/risk management, analyses, discipline etc, play a huge role in limiting the reliance on luck, and even if you lose at times, you still get your account covered. This is unlike the person who is gambling recklessly with no good information, not to mention speculating rightly and having $1000 in his bankroll and still committing all the money into betting at once. Tell me, is that person not significantly relying on luck? This can't be compared to the person with proper skills and plan.

For me, playing for the entire allowed deposit is not even a game of luck, it is an inevitable loss in the next few bets.

Well, some crazy people still do that, and what do you expect? They are expecting luck to take effect. If not, why would a sane person risk all his money at once without any regard to the money/risk management plan? That's irresponsible gambling, and it hurts the most if the money is lost. Still, it works for some people, and they get to make more money with such a high risk. This is what's emboldening others to try that, but I tell you, in most cases, it will amount to losses.

Potential loses or in amount could be always a definite thing on which there's no way that we can limit it out since different persons are on the different approach in between. Regrets do always come at the end and since we are that still prone to gambling then the primary thing that comes up into our mind is on how to make money with it without even thinking up the risks involved. Sports betting is skill based since this will be needing up that kind of analysis on which that be coming from the teams/players that you are about to make bets on. Its an important factor since it do adds up the odds on winning up the bets but of course everything that still depending or basing up with luck too because even on how well your analysis would be but if luck isnt on your side then you will still definitely lose up. So better be wary on how reality works so that you wont be ending up on having those disappointment and frustration.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Still, it works for some people, and they get to make more money with such a high risk. This is what's emboldening others to try that, but I tell you, in most cases, it will amount to losses.

Exactly, that is something I would not do, when things are like that they cannot be considered good, as you have said, playing like that in a crazy and irresponsible way most of the time things do not turn out well, it is better to be safe than sorry and even more so when it is about money, I would not do it, the truth is I am very careful with my money, I only allow myself to risk what I am willing to lose.

[rachael9385]

if it were purely based on skill, there would be people who never lose and make a steady income from it. treating it like an e-sports game would be the wrong approach.

if it were purely luck-based, no one would be better than anyone else. experienced bettors wouldn’t have an advantage over beginners. that’s also not true.

sports betting is a mix of skill and luck. i’d say it’s about 60% skill and 40% luck. skill plays a bigger role, but luck can’t be ignored.

Perfectly explained, the role that luck has to play cannot be neglected, there's always a little bit of luck involved in skilled based games but just like you said if it was totally based on luck then there would be no experts. Everyone would be able to make profit whenever they like if skills were not involved in it, sports betting is totally different from casino games, your profit is based on the knowledge and information you have acquired. But relying totally on skill can be deceiving.

[Mate2237]

if it were purely based on skill, there would be people who never lose and make a steady income from it. treating it like an e-sports game would be the wrong approach.

if it were purely luck-based, no one would be better than anyone else. experienced bettors wouldn’t have an advantage over beginners. that’s also not true.

sports betting is a mix of skill and luck. i’d say it’s about 60% skill and 40% luck. skill plays a bigger role, but luck can’t be ignored.

Perfectly explained, the role that luck has to play cannot be neglected, there's always a little bit of luck involved in skilled based games but just like you said if it was totally based on luck then there would be no experts. Everyone would be able to make profit whenever they like if skills were not involved in it, sports betting is totally different from casino games, your profit is based on the knowledge and information you have acquired. But relying totally on skill can be deceiving.

luck is the main reason why gambling is still surviving because all winning in gambling comes via luck I don't believe that there is skill in gambling because it doesn't work, gambling is purely a game based on chance so I don't agree that gambling is skilled based because when it comes to gambling it's not in our place to control what happens



Skill doesn't work in gambling and should not be confused with luck or chance what plenty people has mistaken as skill in gambling is not even skill but luck unknownly to them if your prediction of about Five teams that you placed bet on surprising comes true that is not skill but luck

[mak013]

luck is the main reason why gambling is still surviving because all winning in gambling comes via luck I don't believe that there is skill in gambling because it doesn't work, gambling is purely a game based on chance so I don't agree that gambling is skilled based because when it comes to gambling it's not in our place to control what happens

Skill doesn't work in gambling and should not be confused with luck or chance what plenty people has mistaken as skill in gambling is not even skill but luck unknownly to them if your prediction of about Five teams that you placed bet on surprising comes true that is not skill but luck

I can agree when you are talking about casino games - random games, unpredictable games. The main luck here is to win big prize and go away.
But sport betting is predictable gambling. You can`t win all bets, but you can win enough for profit. If you are good in analyze, risk management, money management and ready to work hard.

[leonair]

My personal take on this one is that sports betting is that it’s skill-based...

I think if I just work on my skills, I can turn a profit eventually, yep, "eventually" is the trick word here. But after more than five years of sports betting, I'm still not making money. Now I'm wondering: is sports betting really about skill, or is it just luck? If it's about skill, maybe I just haven't got what it takes, and I'm just riding on luck.

What do you think about this topic?

Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?

Gambling is all about luck, but in sports betting, skill also plays a role. When you have a lot of knowledge about the clubs and players, you can make more likely predictions. Because most of the time, good players win matches. Because they know different techniques due to which they are able to fool the players of their opposing team and score goals. So sports betting cannot be called a completely luck-based game, here both luck and skill work very well. You can't ignore the importance of any of this.

[rachael9385]

I agree, and I think sports betting is one of those types of gambling where luck is minimized. I mean its influence on the outcome.
And this qualitatively distinguishes betting from some roulette, but at the same time makes it similar to card games, where a lot depends on the player's skill, and in betting a lot depends on the bettor's skill, if he knows about the team's condition, the results of previous matches and other statistical data.

 Casino games are programmed for the gamblers to lose that's why people call it a rigged game. Roulette, slots, crash and cards can't be won using skills because there are no patterns that needs to be studied. Sports betting on the other hand is quite different just as you explained luck is minimized, winning most times is based on how good you are with prediciting but a small percentage of luck is Also involved. Statistical data can't work everytime so don't get too confident

[Fredomago]

luck is the main reason why gambling is still surviving because all winning in gambling comes via luck I don't believe that there is skill in gambling because it doesn't work, gambling is purely a game based on chance so I don't agree that gambling is skilled based because when it comes to gambling it's not in our place to control what happens

Skill doesn't work in gambling and should not be confused with luck or chance what plenty people has mistaken as skill in gambling is not even skill but luck unknownly to them if your prediction of about Five teams that you placed bet on surprising comes true that is not skill but luck

I can agree when you are talking about casino games - random games, unpredictable games. The main luck here is to win big prize and go away.
But sport betting is predictable gambling. You can`t win all bets, but you can win enough for profit. If you are good in analyze, risk management, money management and ready to work hard.

Yeah after bagging big wins then quit out and enjoy your profits, it's not as usual that you'll going to win with luck base gambling and those who are good and wise with self-control no need to keep pushing for more if you got lucky and got decent amount of winnings, and yes, with sports betting there are chance that you may provide good analysis with the game that you are supporting and you may able to predict the possible outcome, but like what you said, not always a guarantee but if you focus yourself into it there's a chance that you may predict more winnngs compared to those you'll need to let go once you lose your bets.

[nelson4lov]

Skill and luck does play a part, yeah.

— Skill: if you can do the analysis and know what events will likely happens as you predict them because at the end of the day, it's all about predictions. You can use skills to fine tune it and make better predictions.

— Luck: skill is just one side of the coin because you might make all your analysis and make the best picks but what if chosen player is injured early on? Or something happens that changes the course of the game? This makes luck a crucial piece of the puzzle.

You can only make your predictions and hope that the odds end up in your favour.

[AmoreJaz]

Skill and luck does play a part, yeah.

— Skill: if you can do the analysis and know what events will likely happens as you predict them because at the end of the day, it's all about predictions. You can use skills to fine tune it and make better predictions.

— Luck: skill is just one side of the coin because you might make all your analysis and make the best picks but what if chosen player is injured early on? Or something happens that changes the course of the game? This makes luck a crucial piece of the puzzle.

You can only make your predictions and hope that the odds end up in your favour.

Bottomline, sportsbetting is both - requires skills as well as luck. But you can increase your chance of winning if you know the sports that you are betting with. Thus, having knowledge about the sports is a good advantage.
This is why, sportsbetting and poker are just few gambling games that require skill to have an edge of your game. If you will explore these aspects of gambling and hone your knowledge and skills, you will have better chance of winning.

[nara1892]

Basically, skills are indeed quite an important part when you are involved in sports betting, but don't we sometimes still like to lose? Well, you have experienced and proven it OP, you still often lose even though you have applied the skills you have.

From another perspective, as we know, it is not uncommon for a team that is more favored to lose to a weaker team even though they are playing at home, which means that in my opinion sports betting depends on two things, namely skill and luck, skill helps in making decisions and luck helps in determining whether you win or vice versa.

[nelson4lov]

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Bottomline, sportsbetting is both - requires skills as well as luck. But you can increase your chance of winning if you know the sports that you are betting with. Thus, having knowledge about the sports is a good advantage.
This is why, sportsbetting and poker are just few gambling games that require skill to have an edge of your game. If you will explore these aspects of gambling and hone your knowledge and skills, you will have better chance of winning.

You can know your sport and still not win if its not your lucky day. For instance, Real Madrid got eliminated by a team that has never won the UCL title before and everyone who knows the UCL know that Real Madrid dominates it no matter what and they can do comeback, you can use that knowledge of the sports and back them and get rekt this week.

What if there's a red card? 2? Player gets injured? All depends as well. You can only predict and hope for a win.

[bubilas]

Basically, skills are indeed quite an important part when you are involved in sports betting, but don't we sometimes still like to lose? Well, you have experienced and proven it OP, you still often lose even though you have applied the skills you have.

From another perspective, as we know, it is not uncommon for a team that is more favored to lose to a weaker team even though they are playing at home, which means that in my opinion sports betting depends on two things, namely skill and luck, skill helps in making decisions and luck helps in determining whether you win or vice versa.

Then the same can be said about any kind of gambling, where luck does not have the only dominant position. This does not apply to black-red or slots, in this kind of gambling luck and only it decides whether the player will win or not. But if we take poker as an example, then in it it is also quite possible to divide the outcome of the game into, as you said: luck and skill. Nevertheless, their influence is not 50 to 50. I would say whose luck plays a generally small role, maybe 30 percent. Because a good analyst can quite well predict outcomes with a probability of 50-70 percent.

[mak013]

I can agree when you are talking about casino games - random games, unpredictable games. The main luck here is to win big prize and go away.
But sport betting is predictable gambling. You can`t win all bets, but you can win enough for profit. If you are good in analyze, risk management, money management and ready to work hard.

Yeah after bagging big wins then quit out and enjoy your profits, it's not as usual that you'll going to win with luck base gambling and those who are good and wise with self-control no need to keep pushing for more if you got lucky and got decent amount of winnings, and yes, with sports betting there are chance that you may provide good analysis with the game that you are supporting and you may able to predict the possible outcome, but like what you said, not always a guarantee but if you focus yourself into it there's a chance that you may predict more winnngs compared to those you'll need to let go once you lose your bets.

The main thing that we have to think about is that gambling is not a way to get easy money. It is possible, to catch big prize, but if you plan to continue gambling you have to choose one of two ways - play for fun - sometimes lose, sometimes win, small sums both times. Or you can to play for profit - here you have lots of problems, and luck is the smallest of it.
But the biggest plus of the gambling, that it is possible to get profit from gambling using your skills. Not for all, but possible.

[baeva]

Basically, skills are indeed quite an important part when you are involved in sports betting, but don't we sometimes still like to lose? Well, you have experienced and proven it OP, you still often lose even though you have applied the skills you have.

From another perspective, as we know, it is not uncommon for a team that is more favored to lose to a weaker team even though they are playing at home, which means that in my opinion sports betting depends on two things, namely skill and luck, skill helps in making decisions and luck helps in determining whether you win or vice versa.

Then the same can be said about any kind of gambling, where luck does not have the only dominant position. This does not apply to black-red or slots, in this kind of gambling luck and only it decides whether the player will win or not. But if we take poker as an example, then in it it is also quite possible to divide the outcome of the game into, as you said: luck and skill. Nevertheless, their influence is not 50 to 50. I would say whose luck plays a generally small role, maybe 30 percent. Because a good analyst can quite well predict outcomes with a probability of 50-70 percent.

There is no such precision, no sport or game of chance where luck plays such a small role. Take regular sports and their analytics. Football? There are two teams, 22 people playing, and absolutely anything can happen to them that can affect the outcome of the game. Bquetball, hockey? Same thing. Individual sports like tennis, running and so on - same thing, anything can happen to an athlete in the course of a game that will significantly affect it, and from that point on, everything that the analyst thought about before, looking at the previous stats, means nothing. You can look at a statistic that has been linked to a particular athlete for a long time (only in this case) and bet on certain events, realising that your risk is about the same as an unlucky event in that statistic, but even here luck plays a huge part

[eisen33]

Then the same can be said about any kind of gambling, where luck does not have the only dominant position. This does not apply to black-red or slots, in this kind of gambling luck and only it decides whether the player will win or not. But if we take poker as an example, then in it it is also quite possible to divide the outcome of the game into, as you said: luck and skill. Nevertheless, their influence is not 50 to 50. I would say whose luck plays a generally small role, maybe 30 percent. Because a good analyst can quite well predict outcomes with a probability of 50-70 percent.

As for luck, the probability will always be against you, and most likely it is not even 50/50, but even lower, because the probabilities will be on the casino's side and you will be subject to emotions and this will play against you. You should always rely only on skill, and you also need to play only those games where you can use your skill, these are not slots, but for example betting, where you choose the bet yourself. And in slots you need to be immediately prepared that you will spend more before you get lucky.

[Shinpako09]

Just like others say, sports betting is skill-based, but to say it is reliant on or purely based on skills is not true. After all, it is gambling. You still need luck, and luck will always play a role no matter what kind of gambling it is. If it's just purely based on skills, then those who are buying picks from those analysts should have made a lot by now, especially those analysts. Or they would have an almost perfect record, but it's not. An underdog, be it a team or a player, could still possibly upset their opponent.