SWC Poker - it's a SCAM / My review and true story

[nutildah]

OP hasn't responded to this thread in almost 2 weeks now. I'm getting the feeling that he assumed nobody would seriously review his hand history, which was provided to us by him in good faith. Regardless of anybody's personal opinions, its pretty evident that OP's flag against Seals With Clubs is not supported by the evidence he has provided. If he doesn't come back to respond within the next week, I will oppose the flag.

[popek1990]

1. Quick note on the delay 
I’ve been busy and honestly came to terms with the loss, so I don’t refresh the thread every day. Catching up now.

2. “Zero show-downs = chip-dump”? – No. 
The first 43 hands were 3-handed at 200/400. Small-pot poker often ends pre-flop or on the flop. Tiny pots, no shove/fold transfers. Nothing unusual.

3. @LastcallS – still no proof you were even at that table. 
Twice I asked for a 1-minute screen-recording: log in, open any hand, show you’re BillySwords or Eazy1. Twice you ignored it. 
No HH from you, no screenshot of the alleged 112 800-chip refund. Your posts look identical to the SWC style—lots of claims, zero data.

4. Access for my account 
@memehunter offered to audit raw HH. I’m fine with that—but my SWC account is LOCKED, so I can’t pull fresh exports. The chat history I posted is real; SWC and LastcallS can verify or upload history it from their side.
Confirmation about locked account : https://i.ibb.co/sdm8M6FH/2025-06-04-11h12-22.png

5. Nutildah - “No clashes between the three accounts”? – Wrong. 
In the public HH there are lots of show-downs between gd1990, caroline93 and MichaelDE, including all-ins. So much for “soft-play”.
Example : https://i.ibb.co/7xFMbg71/2025-02-05-11h28-47.png

6. Fold pre-flop with KK 
One hand shows me timing out/folding KK. I was juggling ERC-20/degen day-trades and real life (alerts, child, toilet break). Check the rest of the log—I’m usually stealing SB/BB, not folding KK from this position when other players pass.

7. It’s SWC accusing me of multi-accounting—yet you’ve shown zero evidence. 
- If those 3 accounts were really funded by the same BTC wallet, publish the transaction hashes. The blockchain is public; nothing disappears.
- Add IP logs, operating systems, browser fingerprints—that’s standard in any serious investigation.
- I’ve already published the full 10-hour hand history, which you refused to share.
- I also posted other materials, while you censor posts, ban people on Telegram/Twitter for asking questions, delete messages in your self-moderated Bitcointalk thread, and freeze winning accounts without explanation. How is the community supposed to trust you?

Why should I have to prove my innocence? If you have no hard proof, the payout belongs to its rightful owner.
The rule is simple: when a company withholds a player’s funds, the burden of proof is on the company to show a violation.

8. SWC just deleted another post of mine 
I asked (again) for hashes + fingerprints in their self-moderated thread—deleted within hours. They only show up here to post fluff, never data.

Flag still open: 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3394

[Kalaea]

Let's take a look at that hand history.
Note MichaelDE has aces (AsAh), eazy1 and BillySwords are the marks. OP has JcQs

So obv you want to build a pot and not drive off the marks. So Caroline limps, MichaelDE overlimps with aces (!) one mark (Billy) folds, the other (eazy1) in the sb is getting a good price so calls, then you whipsaw from bb with a tiny raise to 2.5bb. Caroline93 calls, then MichaelDE OVERCALLS with his aces, as does the mark. This is collusion team play 101.
Flop 8d Qc 6h. You flop top pair, bet small (2.5bb into 10bb), caroline gets out of the way, MichaelDE flats AGAIN with his overpair, and the mark folds. Oh well.
Turn Jd. You turn 2 pair, so it goes bet/raise/reraise, for some unknown reason MDE just calls instead of shipping with 3 to a straight and 2 to a flush on board..

By now even the spidey senses of road kill would normally be tingling, but when the Td puts four to a straight and three to a flush on the board you both belt it in with hands that by now are both very much bluff catchers. Give the action nobody sane would put MDE on aces, but despite beating literally nothing with your 2 pair in it goes because you know what the hands are.

This hand screams collusion.

[Free Market Capitalist]

I'm busy this week and aside I didn't want to say anything else in this thread but what I can't do is watch someone act smart saying bullshit and stay quiet.

Let's take a look at that hand history.
Note MichaelDE has aces (AsAh), eazy1 and BillySwords are the marks. OP has JcQs

So obv you want to build a pot and not drive off the marks.

Lol.

So Caroline limps, MichaelDE overlimps with aces (!) one mark (Billy) folds, the other (eazy1) in the sb is getting a good price so calls, then you whipsaw from bb with a tiny raise to 2.5bb. Caroline93 calls, then MichaelDE OVERCALLS with his aces, as does the mark. This is collusion team play 101.

Let's see smartass, someone who limps AA, what do you want him to do when OP raises?

Flop 8d Qc 6h. You flop top pair, bet small (2.5bb into 10bb), caroline gets out of the way, MichaelDE flats AGAIN with his overpair, and the mark folds.

And what do you want MichaelDE to do on a raibow flop and with double gutshot. Raise to isolate his hand against better hands?

Oh well.
Turn Jd. You turn 2 pair, so it goes bet/raise/reraise, for some unknown reason MDE just calls instead of shipping with 3 to a straight and 2 to a flush on board..

Sure bet/raise/reraise to insulate against completed straight, sets and top doubles.

By now even the spidey senses of road kill would normally be tingling, but when the Td puts four to a straight and three to a flush on the board you both belt it in with hands that by now are both very much bluff catchers. Give the action nobody sane would put MDE on aces, but despite beating literally nothing with your 2 pair in it goes because you know what the hands are.

This hand screams collusion.

In your mind. MichaelDE is slow playing is monster hand from the preflop and achieves his objective. Your garbage analysis proves nothing.

And I don't even know why I'm wasting my time commenting on this. If a casino steals money from your account they have to provide proof of what you have done wrong, not the other way around. I think the OP was wrong to provide the hands in good faith, as this has turned into a trial of him rather than the casino, which has proven nothing.

[nutildah]

5. Nutildah - “No clashes between the three accounts”? – Wrong. 
In the public HH there are lots of show-downs between gd1990, caroline93 and MichaelDE, including all-ins. So much for “soft-play”.
Example : https://i.ibb.co/7xFMbg71/2025-02-05-11h28-47.png

No, there are not "lots" of showdowns between these 3 players. In over 700 hands played together:

Showdowns between gd1990 and caroline93: 5

Showdowns between gd1990 and Michael DE: 11

Showdowns between MichaelDE and caroline93: 1

There are ZERO showdowns with all 3 players involved.

I'm sorry but I don't believe you have a case here. To be fair much of the other evidence presented by the newbie accounts in this thread is just anecdotal and not really significant.

[popek1990]

Showdowns between gd1990 and caroline93: 5

Showdowns between gd1990 and Michael DE: 11

Showdowns between MichaelDE and caroline93: 1

There are ZERO showdowns with all 3 players involved.

Can I ask the source? I know this forum is not a fan of GPT, but I am a premium subscriber for $200 a month.
I checked it now by doing ‘deep research’ in o1_pro model .
Model analyzed all hands for about 10minutes with a script in python.
I got this result :

Went to River / Went to Showdown
gd1990 vs caroline93     30   17
gd1990 vs MichaelDE    39   23
MichaelDE vs caroline93   18   11

Original output in a readable format :
https://i.ibb.co/mrnPWYYD/2025-06-05-11h29-15.png

GPT also created a file for me where only the hands are.
https://paste.ee/p/U4ZTnKlG

Let's take a look at that hand history.
Note MichaelDE has aces (AsAh), eazy1 and BillySwords are the marks. OP has JcQs

So obv you want to build a pot and not drive off the marks. So Caroline limps, MichaelDE overlimps with aces (!) one mark (Billy) folds, the other (eazy1) in the sb is getting a good price so calls, then you whipsaw from bb with a tiny raise to 2.5bb. Caroline93 calls, then MichaelDE OVERCALLS with his aces, as does the mark. This is collusion team play 101.
Flop 8d Qc 6h. You flop top pair, bet small (2.5bb into 10bb), caroline gets out of the way, MichaelDE flats AGAIN with his overpair, and the mark folds. Oh well.
Turn Jd. You turn 2 pair, so it goes bet/raise/reraise, for some unknown reason MDE just calls instead of shipping with 3 to a straight and 2 to a flush on board..

By now even the spidey senses of road kill would normally be tingling, but when the Td puts four to a straight and three to a flush on the board you both belt it in with hands that by now are both very much bluff catchers. Give the action nobody sane would put MDE on aces, but despite beating literally nothing with your 2 pair in it goes because you know what the hands are.

This hand screams collusion.

@Kalaea - This hand to you may be collusion, and to me and others it may not look like collusion at all.

Player with Aces (MichaelDE): He used a passive trap strategy (slow play).
He deliberately showed weakness (limp, calle) to provoke aggression, not wanting to scare out of the hand.

His last check was a combination of stubbornness and logic. He recognized that his opponent's aggression on a threatening table was a likely bluff after a bad hand. At the same time, with such a large pot on the table (pot-committed) and still a very strong hand (AA), folding from his perspective was simply too difficult and costly a decision already. He decided to “catch the bluff” instead of cheating.

[nutildah]

I looked through all the hands on an Excel sheet and tallied them by hand, so my numbers perhaps weren't exact, but neither are these:

Model analyzed all hands for about 10minutes with a script in python.
I got this result :

Went to River / Went to Showdown
gd1990 vs caroline93     30   17
gd1990 vs MichaelDE    39   23
MichaelDE vs caroline93   18   11

Original output in a readable format :


GPT also created a file for me where only the hands are.
https://paste.ee/p/U4ZTnKlG

We don't like AI because it frequently produces false information, which is what happened here. For example, the numbers you provided in the screenshot don't match the numbers in your paste.ee file. This is what the file says:

gd1990 vs caroline93 - Went to Showdown (Total 8 )
gd1990 vs MichaelDE - Went to Showdown (Total 14)
MichaelDE vs caroline93 - Went to Showdown (Total 2)

Also, I was just counting hands when it was only 2 of the 3 players suspected of collusion involved. When you take the hands with other players out:

gd1990 vs caroline93 - 6
gd1990 vs MichaelDE - 12
MichaelDE vs caroline93 - 1

So I was only off by +2 total. And again, not a single showdown in the first 43 hands while these 3 players were playing against each other. That in itself is quite odd, statistically speaking.

[Kalaea]

For me, what this case shows is that the criteria they have to decide if you are colluding is totally subjective. That is, a player complains about it, which is typical of fish when he has been fleeced, then an idiot analyzes the hands above that have nothing unusual and decides by his balls that there is collusion.

I have been in many tables like that, playing as popek1990, for more than a decade playing poker every day and I have never been accused of collusion, but I played in serious houses, like Pokerstars (also Pacific and others for short periods of time).

So you and popek1990 are the same person? Explains a lot. Glad you got caught.

[xOrpian]

For me, what this case shows is that the criteria they have to decide if you are colluding is totally subjective. That is, a player complains about it, which is typical of fish when he has been fleeced, then an idiot analyzes the hands above that have nothing unusual and decides by his balls that there is collusion.

I have been in many tables like that, playing as popek1990, for more than a decade playing poker every day and I have never been accused of collusion, but I played in serious houses, like Pokerstars (also Pacific and others for short periods of time).

So you and popek1990 are the same person? Explains a lot. Glad you got caught.

Pretty convenient to create an account to a accuse a new poker company then boldly come from main after getting caught for cheating. Last time I checked this person was dt1 not even dt2 with this attitude.

This person  also tagged SwC poker with term 'Unacceptable behavior' from FMC account and the tag is negative.

[Free Market Capitalist]

For me, what this case shows is that the criteria they have to decide if you are colluding is totally subjective. That is, a player complains about it, which is typical of fish when he has been fleeced, then an idiot analyzes the hands above that have nothing unusual and decides by his balls that there is collusion.

I have been in many tables like that, playing as popek1990, for more than a decade playing poker every day and I have never been accused of collusion, but I played in serious houses, like Pokerstars (also Pacific and others for short periods of time).

So you and popek1990 are the same person? Explains a lot. Glad you got caught.

Have you been hired by the FBI for your investigative skills? Look at how good your understanding and your ability to express yourself must be if you call something I supposedly said myself “got caught.” Apart from hiring you at the FBI, I think they're going to give you the Nobel Prize.

[popek1990]

For me, what this case shows is that the criteria they have to decide if you are colluding is totally subjective. That is, a player complains about it, which is typical of fish when he has been fleeced, then an idiot analyzes the hands above that have nothing unusual and decides by his balls that there is collusion.

I have been in many tables like that, playing as popek1990, for more than a decade playing poker every day and I have never been accused of collusion, but I played in serious houses, like Pokerstars (also Pacific and others for short periods of time).

So you and popek1990 are the same person? Explains a lot. Glad you got caught.

Where did you get that idea? Are you going to accuse anyone who read this entire thread and stands by me of saying these are my accounts? lol