Bitcoin ETF Impact

[fikrett]

It's happening already, albeit on a smaller scale than what's possibly coming.
And after all, ETFs are prohibiting most of the tricks many think would be viable once big guys enter the game (they are already in it, but not that deep).
That's why, I think, we can say that, in the long run, it will be good because without bigger capital and recognition from it, BTC won't reach the heights that we envision adoption-wise.

Of course, BTC growth will be born if demand continues to increase and the level of trust in Bitcoin grows high from various groups and institutions. There will always be positive and negative points from the impact of the Bitcoin ETF itself, maybe you can read about it in various sources. What we think is good at the beginning will usually end up being bad, this is because it could contain many items with various interests. The direction we want is to still be able to take advantage of these opportunities without losing control over the assets themselves, such as having your own house but the spare key is also with a second party.

ETFs won't disallow you to continue to have your BTC to yourself, it just gives bigger entities the right to do the same albeit in a different form and with regulations intact.
Nothing more, nothing less.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Of course, BTC growth will be born if demand continues to increase and the level of trust in Bitcoin grows high from various groups and institutions. There will always be positive and negative points from the impact of the Bitcoin ETF itself, maybe you can read about it in various sources. What we think is good at the beginning will usually end up being bad, this is because it could contain many items with various interests. The direction we want is to still be able to take advantage of these opportunities without losing control over the assets themselves, such as having your own house but the spare key is also with a second party.

It's your key, it's your bitcoin. It's not your key, it's not your bitcoin.

Institutional investors that choose Bitcoin Spot ETFs for investment don't own private keys, and they rely to Bitcoin Spot ETFs and custodians to use their money for purchasing bitcoin, store and secure bitcoin on behalf of institutional investors.

It contains risk that is never good, but the belief goes to custodians like Coinbase, Gemini that as old and trusted companies, they won't do shady things with bitcoins from Bitcoin Spot ETFs. It's belief, and practically what will happen, only future can tell.

https://blockworks.co/bitcoin-etf

[AprilioMP]

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ETFs won't disallow you to continue to have your BTC to yourself, it just gives bigger entities the right to do the same albeit in a different form and with regulations intact.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Spot ETF Bitcoin makes it easy for investors related to information by showing price movements ¹.
I have said above that the Bitcoin ETF spot like a must and its impact feels positive according to my point of view before Bitcoin reached ATH in the previous year.
To get to know more about ETF Bitcoin spots, the link that I quoted can provide a basic understanding of ETF Bitcoin spots.

[coupable]

Now that multiple Bitcoin ETFs are live, do you guys think this will lead to more price stability, or will it bring more manipulation from institutional players? What's your take?

The rise in Bitcoin ETFs is part of a growing trend that reflects the accelerating institutional adoption of cryptocurrencies. While some banks remain hesitant to take such a step, the surge in institutional investment suggests that Bitcoin is solidifying its position as a mainstream financial asset. As capital from major institutions continues to flow into Bitcoin ETFs, the market could see significant shifts in prices and supply-demand dynamics, opening the door to more formal adoption of crypto assets.

[BenCodie]

Growing liquidity allows it to overcome challenges like manipulation and withstands higher volume both to the up and downside. What will be interesting is when bigger players with deeper pockets start buying (and selling), and if they've already done so or are still going.

It's happening already, albeit on a smaller scale than what's possibly coming.
....(they are already in it, but not that deep).
That's why, I think, we can say that, in the long run, it will be good because without bigger capital and recognition from it, BTC won't reach the heights that we envision adoption-wise.

Fully agree with all of this. Interesting few years are ahead, that is for sure. Even 2025 is going to be very interesting.

Growing liquidity allows it to overcome challenges like manipulation and withstands higher volume both to the up and downside. What will be interesting is when bigger players with deeper pockets start buying (and selling), and if they've already done so or are still going.

And after all, ETFs are prohibiting most of the tricks many think would be viable once big guys enter the game

I'd love to hear more about your ideas of this - I have my informed theories, though I enjoy getting outside insights to see if they align.

[MusaMohamed]

The rise in Bitcoin ETFs is part of a growing trend that reflects the accelerating institutional adoption of cryptocurrencies. While some banks remain hesitant to take such a step, the surge in institutional investment suggests that Bitcoin is solidifying its position as a mainstream financial asset. As capital from major institutions continues to flow into Bitcoin ETFs, the market could see significant shifts in prices and supply-demand dynamics, opening the door to more formal adoption of crypto assets.

Bitcoin Futures ETFs, then Bitcoin Spot ETFs are step by step to bring Bitcoin to more mass adoption and go mainstream. It's effect of Bitcoin Spot ETFs as investors, small or institutional investors, now have no doubt that Bitcoin is legal in the USA. It was before Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals but after Bitcoin Spot ETF approval announcement in January 2024, many people who had doubt about legality of Bitcoin, mostly already changed their mind. It's like making Bitcoin legality more legal.

It's mass effect from Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals, and in long term we will see bigger effects.

[Zenp]

I think we are already starting to see stability in the bitcoin price in the past few months, this can be caused by the ETFs. I believe that the more investment money flows into BTC, the more stable the bitcoin price would be.

[YUriy1991]

I think we are already starting to see stability in the bitcoin price in the past few months, this can be caused by the ETFs. I believe that the more investment money flows into BTC, the more stable the bitcoin price would be.

We know that with better Liquidity conditions, prices are also more stable. Looking at current developments, BTC growth tends to increase in terms of adoption with the presence of Bitcoin ETFs. Along with the increase in BTC prices, the role of ETFs is also seen as being able to suppress volatility, but there are also negative effects if at any time they sell their BTC to the market, the reaction will be quite volatile, especially if the amount issued is also large.

[X-ray]

Now that multiple Bitcoin ETFs are live, do you guys think this will lead to more price stability, or will it bring more manipulation from institutional players? What's your take?

my brain tells me ETF will increase amount of passive holder, like those big institutional investor. hence increased stability price wise.

but my feeling tells me that this will do nothing because at the end of the day, not their privkey, not their money, and the BTC is in 3rd party custody, who knows if these BTC can still go into circulating supply  .
at the end of the day, you can never be sure, but logically speaking, yes it should make the price a lot more stable than before. it also can bring in more passive income as the time goes as well, which means increased stability overtime.

[tygeade]

Now that multiple Bitcoin ETFs are live, do you guys think this will lead to more price stability, or will it bring more manipulation from institutional players? What's your take?

Well in theory, ETF's combined have more bitcoins bought than Satoshi has. We do not know exactly how much Satoshi has, but theory is that he has a million of them, all gone and burned of course as far as we know, but now ETF's have even more than that. So we can safely assume that the whole huge increase was mainly because of the ETF's, but some people want to put that claim on other political stuff.

Honestly, as long as ETF's keep buying bitcoin like this, we are going to keep going higher and higher, we should be able to make some good return. Its not going to be easy, but it won't be that bad neither, we are going to end up with a good result one way or another. This isn't really that difficult, we just need them to do exactly what they are doing.

[Orpichukwu]

ETFs will likely have both stabilizing and destabilizing effects on bitcoin. Increased liquidity could reduce extreme price swings, but institutional influence might also introduce new forms of price manipulation. The impact will depend on trading volume, regulatory oversight, and how these ETFs interact with the broader crypto market. It's a major shift and we'll need to see how it plays out over time. Either way this is a new chapter for bitcoin.

This new form of price manipulation I agree with that, but many still think and argue that the Bitcoin price can't be manipulated; the manipulation can't be as easy as it can be done on altcoins with low volume, but these institutional investors that hold large amounts of Bitcoin to some level can manipulate the price of Bitcoin.

Let's just use the fake ETF approval news and the impact it caused in the market. Come to think of a news story which declares that they will all be selling off all their holdings and maybe with the title of tagging Bitcoin as not being safe for investment; imagine what that can do to the market.

[JollyGood]

Regarding my take, the first thing that usually comes to mind when I read a post is related to the account. When newbie accounts have certain posting styles and patterns it makes me suspect ulterior motives are at play. Your account has caught my attention. Having said that, I doubt there will be manipulation as a result of ETF.

Now that multiple Bitcoin ETFs are live, do you guys think this will lead to more price stability, or will it bring more manipulation from institutional players? What's your take?

[coupable]

The rise in Bitcoin ETFs is part of a growing trend that reflects the accelerating institutional adoption of cryptocurrencies. While some banks remain hesitant to take such a step, the surge in institutional investment suggests that Bitcoin is solidifying its position as a mainstream financial asset. As capital from major institutions continues to flow into Bitcoin ETFs, the market could see significant shifts in prices and supply-demand dynamics, opening the door to more formal adoption of crypto assets.

Bitcoin Futures ETFs, then Bitcoin Spot ETFs are step by step to bring Bitcoin to more mass adoption and go mainstream. It's effect of Bitcoin Spot ETFs as investors, small or institutional investors, now have no doubt that Bitcoin is legal in the USA. It was before Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals but after Bitcoin Spot ETF approval announcement in January 2024, many people who had doubt about legality of Bitcoin, mostly already changed their mind. It's like making Bitcoin legality more legal.

It's mass effect from Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals, and in long term we will see bigger effects.

Before approving these funds, the SEC had rejected several applications to launch such funds in the past few years, claiming that the cryptocurrency market is prone to manipulation. However, there have been increasing signs in the market of investor enthusiasm, encouraging the regulators to be willing to at least approve some Bitcoin ETFs. This would open the market to millions of investors and attract billions in investments.

[fikrett]

Before approving these funds, the SEC had rejected several applications to launch such funds in the past few years, claiming that the cryptocurrency market is prone to manipulation. However, there have been increasing signs in the market of investor enthusiasm, encouraging the regulators to be willing to at least approve some Bitcoin ETFs. This would open the market to millions of investors and attract billions in investments.

They are willing to take the risks now, that's all.
But they do so only on the coins that are trusted and have a real potential, without crumbling in a week or so 

[Baki202]

Of course, BTC growth will be born if demand continues to increase and the level of trust in Bitcoin grows high from various groups and institutions. There will always be positive and negative points from the impact of the Bitcoin ETF itself, maybe you can read about it in various sources. What we think is good at the beginning will usually end up being bad, this is because it could contain many items with various interests. The direction we want is to still be able to take advantage of these opportunities without losing control over the assets themselves, such as having your own house but the spare key is also with a second party.

And bitcoin will grow at every extent and the growth of bitcoin is always determined by what news and the news will either make the price go up or come down and bitcoin is gaining trust always and that isnwhy the market keeps increasing and when there is positive news the price will go higher and when the price comes sown the price will come down that is what is determining the price of bitcoin and that is why the price is usually not stable and that it is called an investment.

The problem is before people will want to rely on buying the dip but everything is now different you buy any time even the price there is a way you just gather money and then buy in what ever price it is so there is no way you won't make money because for sure there will be increase in the price when you even know how to make use of opportunities that is when you will be able to make money from crypto you just have to be very smart about it.

[Redley555]

Now that multiple Bitcoin ETFs are live, do you guys think this will lead to more price stability, or will it bring more manipulation from institutional players? What's your take?

The mainstream acceptance will lead to more stability because a lot of traditional investors will like to go for a longer term investment, the market trend is also something to look at too

[henry_of_skalitz]

Now that multiple Bitcoin ETFs are live, do you guys think this will lead to more price stability, or will it bring more manipulation from institutional players? What's your take?

The mainstream acceptance will lead to more stability because a lot of traditional investors will like to go for a longer term investment, the market trend is also something to look at too

I wouldn't say that it's good or bad, it's just the aftermath of big capital entering the stage..

[madnessteat]

The rise in Bitcoin ETFs is part of a growing trend that reflects the accelerating institutional adoption of cryptocurrencies. While some banks remain hesitant to take such a step, the surge in institutional investment suggests that Bitcoin is solidifying its position as a mainstream financial asset. As capital from major institutions continues to flow into Bitcoin ETFs, the market could see significant shifts in prices and supply-demand dynamics, opening the door to more formal adoption of crypto assets.

Bitcoin Futures ETFs, then Bitcoin Spot ETFs are step by step to bring Bitcoin to more mass adoption and go mainstream. It's effect of Bitcoin Spot ETFs as investors, small or institutional investors, now have no doubt that Bitcoin is legal in the USA. It was before Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals but after Bitcoin Spot ETF approval announcement in January 2024, many people who had doubt about legality of Bitcoin, mostly already changed their mind. It's like making Bitcoin legality more legal.

It's mass effect from Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals, and in long term we will see bigger effects.

Before approving these funds, the SEC had rejected several applications to launch such funds in the past few years, claiming that the cryptocurrency market is prone to manipulation. However, there have been increasing signs in the market of investor enthusiasm, encouraging the regulators to be willing to at least approve some Bitcoin ETFs. This would open the market to millions of investors and attract billions in investments.

The Bitcoin market will be susceptible to manipulation even after all ETF applications are approved as long as there are big players like Binance in the market. If I'm not mistaken they are now the third or fourth largest holder of Bitcoin. In addition they cooperate with Wintermute which in my opinion is the main manipulator in the cryptocurrency market.

The Bitcoin ETF market will not be able to reduce volatility as high volatility remains in the native Bitcoin market.

[coupable]

The rise in Bitcoin ETFs is part of a growing trend that reflects the accelerating institutional adoption of cryptocurrencies. While some banks remain hesitant to take such a step, the surge in institutional investment suggests that Bitcoin is solidifying its position as a mainstream financial asset. As capital from major institutions continues to flow into Bitcoin ETFs, the market could see significant shifts in prices and supply-demand dynamics, opening the door to more formal adoption of crypto assets.

Bitcoin Futures ETFs, then Bitcoin Spot ETFs are step by step to bring Bitcoin to more mass adoption and go mainstream. It's effect of Bitcoin Spot ETFs as investors, small or institutional investors, now have no doubt that Bitcoin is legal in the USA. It was before Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals but after Bitcoin Spot ETF approval announcement in January 2024, many people who had doubt about legality of Bitcoin, mostly already changed their mind. It's like making Bitcoin legality more legal.

It's mass effect from Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals, and in long term we will see bigger effects.

Before approving these funds, the SEC had rejected several applications to launch such funds in the past few years, claiming that the cryptocurrency market is prone to manipulation. However, there have been increasing signs in the market of investor enthusiasm, encouraging the regulators to be willing to at least approve some Bitcoin ETFs. This would open the market to millions of investors and attract billions in investments.

The Bitcoin market will be susceptible to manipulation even after all ETF applications are approved as long as there are big players like Binance in the market. If I'm not mistaken they are now the third or fourth largest holder of Bitcoin. In addition they cooperate with Wintermute which in my opinion is the main manipulator in the cryptocurrency market.

The Bitcoin ETF market will not be able to reduce volatility as high volatility remains in the native Bitcoin market.

The price of any product always stabilizes as the user base expands and adoption becomes widespread. The ease of launching ETFs will help further embrace the concept of Bitcoin as a store of wealth. Since most investors are not familiar with Bitcoin due to their lack of expertise and familiarity with the banking mentality, they will prefer to treat this investment as if it were the stock market. As the number of investors increases, more Bitcoin will be accumulated by these companies and owned by their investors, and the price will move toward greater stability, gradually moving away from its volatile nature.

[nativebtc]

ETFs bring more liquidity and mainstream access, so short-term might see more volatility from institutional games. But long-term, they could help stabilize price as BTC gets treated more like a macro asset. So… both 😅