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Author Topic: Testing "the luck" of AI in sports betting #4 update (February 23, 2025)  (Read 584 times)
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February 15, 2025, 02:26:59 PM
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Since AI can analyze large data relating to any club at a very fast pace, gamblers use it when they don't have time to analyze games. Sometimes, gamblers depend on prediction sites for predictions since they don't have the time to gather information about the match ( I suspect that these platforms also use AI for their analysis), the use of AI is now an alternative. It is noteworthy to acknowledge that machines are not totally dependable so there is need to always crosscheck AI predictions.
We might be really impressed by what AI can do in sports betting, but in reality, it's not really working at all. Honestly, I haven't seen any post where someone conducted an experiment using AI to predict outcomes that maintained a winning rate of over 50%. So why would I believe that AI can help me win when no one has managed to do it, despite AI having been around for a while and being even more developed now?

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February 15, 2025, 02:42:45 PM
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Okay, dude, here's a little advice: don't get too aggressive with your betting strategy. I tried the same thing last time, and I ended up failing my experiment. I realized that sports betting analysis shouldn't rely fully on AI. Good luck, but always be careful out there!
I think he was just doing a test. Nothing to be seriously concerned. I expected to see the outcome of his betting based on AI's analysis but I didn't see that.
Artificial intelligence can only give their predictions based on the data and statistics that they have and because football and future events do not usually obey all these rules and they usually have a high level of probability or the chance of something happening, any predictions from artificial intelligence cannot be trusted.
You are correct. They are limited in their scope and it is all based on data that can be aggregated wrongly. No one should think that AI is infalliable. Never. They make mistakes constantly, particularly when you need real time information.

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February 15, 2025, 03:00:16 PM
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Football's unpredictability is part of its charm. While these predictions are based on analysis, anything can happen on the pitch. It's the unexpected moments that make the game so captivating. We'll be eagerly watching to see how these exciting encounters unfold!
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Artificial intelligence can only give their predictions based on the data and statistics that they have and because football and future events do not usually obey all these rules and they usually have a high level of probability or the chance of something happening, any predictions from artificial intelligence cannot be trusted. Any new Gambler who wants to depend to use artificial intelligence will only end up wasting useful time that they can invest into making their sports prediction skill better.
Obviously from the explanation of the reasons for each of the games it deleted, it was just based on obvious statistics that's available based on past result and not about the recent outcomes that we've seen in recent games. Like the first prediction on the arsenal vs Leicester city game, if not that arsenal where just lucky to have had those last minutes two goals,  the fact that a lot of arsenal players where not in the game affected the game and would have resulted in the first false prediction.

For the sake of just observation and looking out for the possibility of certain trend playing out a certain way, trying this out might not be entirely out of place but it's only best to be cautious at it and never to make use of an amount that is huge. Even if all the bets enters as predicted, using AI to make your prediction is never a strategy that should be used for a long period of time in different bets.

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February 15, 2025, 03:55:07 PM
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With the use of the AI they are using the number of accumulated numbers or data came from different sources and makes a readable result to the users or requestor of the question, now they will just fetch their chances of winning but again its sports betting anything can happen, single mistake can change and make a table turn so always still check the players game play, and the team players will go in the field so even AI predict the match winner there's a support with your background and knowledge to make a higher chance and lesser risk with your bet.

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February 15, 2025, 04:05:48 PM
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This post is important to me right now and I'm going to ask if AI predictions really matter in sports betting?Are AI tools really capable to predict game outcomes.I haven't even seen or heard where AI has been able to conduct and predict a game till it gets to the winning chances.
And again,if AI predictions are so realiable,then there won't be room for losses and pathetic unforseen financial risks for players.If this AInmodel can analyze sports betting then it requires careful monitoring to maintain the game.

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February 15, 2025, 04:16:07 PM
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Now the AI is correct 1 from 6 predictions, even though it's really easy to predict Arsenal will beat Leicester City.

The other 4 match have a possibility will true, but the match Southampton vs Bournemouth seems hard, Bournemouth have scored 2 goals, the AI predicted it will draw. Southampton is the weakest team, so high unlikely to see them come back.

The AI predict Aston Villa will score 3 goals, now it's still 0-0, but Ipswich Town lost one player, well there's a possibility Aston Villa can win with big margin. Cheesy

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February 15, 2025, 04:28:49 PM
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I think the AI ​​prediction for each upcoming match is not very accurate, and I think the AI ​​does not have specific data about the latest data that has occurred, such as players who have just been injured, the latest data from each player, and others that are so specific. I only see a general explanation of the AI ​​analysis. Therefore, I think it is better to have a personal analysis than to use AI to predict in a match. Even if it is just to try, it is better to be careful and not to involve such a large amount in betting.
That's good, using general prediction on matches will advance you on prediction analysis instead of using AI, because AI is a programm which it can not know everything and it can predict its matches base on the previous performance of the clubs, it doesn't really give the data analysis of any matches as you said,  for the injured players, so instead of me to use AI I rather use my own understanding of the team to prediction match against their opponent, already if you want to get close range prediction, I think we have check from their previous performance and also the players of the team that's evolved.

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Given the results, the AI achieved 3 out of 6 correct predictions, with a success rate of 50% for this prediction.

Leicester City FC vs. Arsenal

Prediction: Arsenal Victory (1-2)

Actual result: 0-2

Outcome: Win

West Ham United FC vs. Brentford

Prediction: Draw (1-1)

Actual result: 0-1

Outcome: Fail

Aston Villa vs. Ipswich Town

Prediction: Aston Villa Victory (3-0)

Actual result: 1-1

Outcome: Fail

Fulham FC vs. Nottingham Forest


Prediction: Fulham Victory (2-0)

Actual result: 2-1

Outcome: Win

Manchester City FC vs. Newcastle United FC

Prediction: Manchester City Victory (3-1)

Actual result: 4-0

Outcome: Win

Southampton vs. AFC Bournemouth


Prediction: Draw

Actual result: 1-3

Outcome: Fail

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Wow, I didn’t know that Copilot could and is allowed to make that kind of prediction when prompting your prompts. At least there is actual evidence of AI being used in betting with prediction in place. I believe it’s an okay result, with it being 50-50. It’s like going on with just a chance and predicting it by yourself.

It’s hard to quantify how you would measure its effectiveness, but deciding on your bets with the help of AI would probably help. That’s an excellent way to use it as long as you win.

 
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Football's unpredictability is part of its charm. While these predictions are based on analysis, anything can happen on the pitch. It's the unexpected moments that make the game so captivating. We'll be eagerly watching to see how these exciting encounters unfold!

There is definitely potential for AI to outsmart bookmakers but they are also using it to improve their odds and probably have many clever people in teams trying to prevent players gaining too much advantage. What is lacking in this analysis is how much current and relevant information is available for the AI to process. It really needs up to date information, including things like player and weather conditions, along with all the surrounding data that can have such small impacts but contribute towards the outcome of a game (like certain players being ill or being played out of position). It can often be a season out of date, which is very far behind.

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It is great that Copilot of Microsoft is doing this and is not complaining like free versions of ChatGPT that I do not have access to live data to make predictions based on these websites, I assume even ChatGPT now has access to such predictions as I tried myself for tomorrow Serie A games and it only gave wins to me. I wonder how DeepSeek relates to this as most people are only talking in superlative to this China version of AI. I agree with most here as since even ChatGPT gave only wins in response their knowledge is limited though I remember when even AI could not give predictions in their beginning so this is a step forward in this direction. Now we can make some statistics spreadsheet if we want to keep track of the improvements of AI by trying our luck on weekends and weekday games, it can be fun I think.


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Wow, I didn’t know that Copilot could and is allowed to make that kind of prediction when prompting your prompts. At least there is actual evidence of AI being used in betting with prediction in place. I believe it’s an okay result, with it being 50-50. It’s like going on with just a chance and predicting it by yourself.

It’s hard to quantify how you would measure its effectiveness, but deciding on your bets with the help of AI would probably help. That’s an excellent way to use it as long as you win.

If you asked me, I would tell you 50% of accuracy is actually pretty bad for one going for Artificial intelligence as a strategy to win bets. One is supposed to use one's knowledge about the sport in question to increase one's chances over a 50% (which is basically a coin flip, from the statistical point of view).
Artificial intelligence, as far as it is within this developed state cannot accurately tell the future or help people to learn money through predictions, they can only use publicly available information, not privileged information.
If someday coders and programmers manage to pull off some algorithm which had an accuracy over 75% or 80% of accuracy, then inevitably the world of sportbetting would change and odds would nerve be the same they used to.

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I see some of the games been well predicted but isn't convincing enough to me and so I cannot trust this prediction completely because I believe with time there are days it will not turn out correct and so much dependens on this predictions will literally make you loose all of you money so since I cannot trust this to a 80% so I will not really align with this.

 
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Final Thoughts:

Football's unpredictability is part of its charm. While these predictions are based on analysis, anything can happen on the pitch. It's the unexpected moments that make the game so captivating. We'll be eagerly watching to see how these exciting encounters unfold!
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Artificial intelligence can only give their predictions based on the data and statistics that they have and because football and future events do not usually obey all these rules and they usually have a high level of probability or the chance of something happening, any predictions from artificial intelligence cannot be trusted. Any new Gambler who wants to depend to use artificial intelligence will only end up wasting useful time that they can invest into making their sports prediction skill better.
I wouldn't be quick to displace the usefulness of artificial intelligence in sports betting as it could help those lazy bettors and the bettors with so much schedule on-hand, to make a better prediction that may prove to have potential of winning than not placing a bet at all and lose out entirely on the chances of winning for the day.

Also, I think unlike any regular everyday gambler or better, artificial intelligence qualifies to be categorized as a gambler too or better still, it is a tool that fulfills a need, because it is not in anyway a better bettor than the human counterparts who use their brain to place a bet and as such it is subject to the laws of chance and probability.

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Given the results, the AI achieved 3 out of 6 correct predictions, with a success rate of 50% for this prediction.

It's worse than that
Wins:
Leicester City FC vs. Arsenal   1.32
Fulham FC vs. Nottingham Forest 2.16
Manchester City FC vs. Newcastle United FC 2.07

It won 2.53 it lost 3 in the other games, so you're looking at 8% bankroll loss.
All wins come from betting on the favorites, it missed two others by betting quite funnily on Southhampton at 6 odds.

Anyhow, again another proof there is nothing magical about AI.



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February 15, 2025, 06:05:30 PM
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Final Thoughts:

Football's unpredictability is part of its charm. While these predictions are based on analysis, anything can happen on the pitch. It's the unexpected moments that make the game so captivating. We'll be eagerly watching to see how these exciting encounters unfold!
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Artificial intelligence can only give their predictions based on the data and statistics that they have and because football and future events do not usually obey all these rules and they usually have a high level of probability or the chance of something happening, any predictions from artificial intelligence cannot be trusted. Any new Gambler who wants to depend to use artificial intelligence will only end up wasting useful time that they can invest into making their sports prediction skill better.


That's why  anything concerning football prediction and Ai isn't advisable. At one point in this forum they was so much hype to how AI would breach the gap between gamblers and making winning easy with sportbetting which I was so surprised as to why they would even think such because it's just so surprising when we know that the best AI can do is just to gather as accurate as it can get stats from game which to a very high possibly is actually nothing in sports betting.











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February 15, 2025, 09:07:07 PM
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We all know how AI can work, and we can utilize its power for our self-assistance. However, in the prediction of sports outcomes, I think AI is not suitable here. The reason is that AI is not updated daily, perhaps its knowledge was updated years ago, like in the copilot's feed in 2023, and its responses or answers are based on that time. It analyzes data and patterns from 2023 and before, while football is a game that is very unpredictable. There is no need for pattern study, the players' intellectual capabilities and physical fitness can decide the outcomes of the match. Additionally, if players are injured during the game, it can also change the scenario. If you take suggestions from AI, it may provide a good prediction, but if something happens in the middle of the match, then the prediction will go in another direction. So, it's not a good approach, do your own analysis of the players and the conditions and place a bet.

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OP: There are betting sites that work with AI algorithm.
The information for a successful bet starts with the use of adequate documentation, correct sources and that one in particular is nothing more than asking a 12-year-old child, more or less.

AI requires training and specialization, in fact that is paid for and is expensive.

In any case, there are three variables in the case of football that we should not always take as the "@" that the casino offers, the winning probability is always 0.33-0.34-0.33  Smiley

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Given the results, the AI achieved 3 out of 6 correct predictions, with a success rate of 50% for this prediction.

Leicester City FC vs. Arsenal
Outcome: Win

Fulham FC vs. Nottingham Forest
Outcome: Win

Manchester City FC vs. Newcastle United FC
Outcome: Win
You need to calculate the odds too.

Arsenal won @1.33
Fulham won @2.15
Manchester City won @2.05

Let's say you bet $1 per match, so you've spent $6 and you get $5.53, which mean you're loss $0.47.

Even the AI has 50% or 80% success rate, if the return isn't higher than you staked, the success rate is nothing.

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I asked Copilot for predictions for tomorrow's Premier League matches acting as an expert. Just sharing out of curiosity to see if tomorrow will be a lucky day for the AI, and also a bit because of the topic of luck in sports betting.


And this is what it replied:

copilot:

Sure! Let's provide expert predictions for the matches scheduled on February 15, 2025. While I don't have access to events beyond my last update in October 2023, we can speculate based on historical performances and current trends.

Leicester City FC vs. Arsenal
Prediction: Arsenal Victory

Analysis:

Arsenal has shown remarkable evolution under their current management, focusing on young talents and dynamic attacking play. Leicester City is always a dangerous opponent, especially at home, but they might struggle to contain Arsenal's offensive prowess. We might expect a close game, perhaps a 2-1 win for Arsenal.

West Ham United FC vs. Brentford
Prediction: Draw

Analysis:

Both teams have been competitive in the Premier League, with West Ham showcasing physical strength and Brentford demonstrating tactical discipline. This matchup could be very balanced, leading to a 1-1 scoreline as both teams aim to solidify their positions in the table.

Fulham FC vs. Nottingham Forest
Prediction: Fulham Victory

Analysis:

Playing at home, Fulham holds the advantage and typically displays attractive, offensive football. Nottingham Forest may struggle if they don't bolster their defense. A 2-0 victory for Fulham seems likely if they maintain their level of play.

Aston Villa vs. Ipswich Town
Prediction: Aston Villa Victory

Analysis:

Aston Villa, with their Premier League experience, should prevail against Ipswich Town. If Ipswich is newly promoted, they might still be adjusting to the pace of top-flight football. We could see a 3-0 win for Aston Villa.

Manchester City FC vs. Newcastle United FC
Prediction: Manchester City Victory

Analysis:

Manchester City remains one of the strongest teams in the league, boasting a deep squad and solid playing style. Newcastle United has invested heavily in talent recently, but defeating City at the Etihad Stadium is a tall order. A 3-1 result in favor of Manchester City is plausible.

Southampton vs. AFC Bournemouth
Prediction: Draw

Final Thoughts:

Football's unpredictability is part of its charm. While these predictions are based on analysis, anything can happen on the pitch. It's the unexpected moments that make the game so captivating. We'll be eagerly watching to see how these exciting encounters unfold!

If you have gone on accumulation, the prediction is not more than 50% accurate and that will make the bet to be a lost one.

All the draw predictions were lost.

This is just how those sites that are predicting scores are. No difference at all.

Do not depend on it.

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