Balancing our Personal Believes, Religion and Gambling

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Yes when faith and religion are combined with gambling it can seem tempting to many because they can easily expect to gain something. But religion and faith usually try to show people a path that leads to confidence good decision making and conditional happiness. For this reason the relationship between religion and gambling is usually negative, because it is not conducive to a normal and stable lifestyle for people.

What are you trying to explain, man?
Everybody doesn't even believe in one religion or perhaps in their own religion, there are people who don't even believe in it to have any complication with gambling. This is just the believe of people in their own discipline and to also help others not to be wallow in the side effects of gambling. Fath has nothing to do with ones gambling believes based on their religion or trading.

[gunhell16]

Please correct me if my understanding of what you are saying is correct, there are other gamblers who may have won a large amount and with the size of their winnings, some of the portion winning amount they got from the gambling casino they gave help or donation to a church where they saw that it really needed help.

Of course, the church will accept it freely because they will think that it is open within the person who wants to give help for the church without asking where it comes from and I think there is nothing wrong with that as long as the church does not know that it came from the gambling casino and there are also other churches that even if they know it came from gambling they will still accept it for sure.

[Mahanton]

Yes when faith and religion are combined with gambling it can seem tempting to many because they can easily expect to gain something. But religion and faith usually try to show people a path that leads to confidence good decision making and conditional happiness. For this reason the relationship between religion and gambling is usually negative, because it is not conducive to a normal and stable lifestyle for people.

What are you trying to explain, man?
Everybody doesn't even believe in one religion or perhaps in their own religion, there are people who don't even believe in it to have any complication with gambling. This is just the believe of people in their own discipline and to also help others not to be wallow in the side effects of gambling. Fath has nothing to do with ones gambling believes based on their religion or trading.

Actually it could affect out on someones decisions but it will be depending whether he do follow up such faith or will be ignoring it out because they do really like or want to gambling. Just like on whats on Islam religion.

It is stated in the Qur'an that games of chance which include money, including maisir, are a "grave sin" and "abominations of Satan's handiwork". It is also mentioned in the ahadith. They ask you about wine and gambling. Say: 'In them both lies grave sin, though some benefit, to mankind.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maisir

So if you are really that a faithful person to God then doesnt matter on what relligion you do have on which its neither you would be that following it or would totally opposing. Actually this isnt really just that talking about on gambling but also in other things as well on which if its really that stated on scriptures neither its been allowed or prohibited then you would be needing to follow it out but usually people doesnt mind much as long they can be able to do the things on whats up into their mind.

[Doan9269]

Please correct me if my understanding of what you are saying is correct, there are other gamblers who may have won a large amount and with the size of their winnings, some of the portion winning amount they got from the gambling casino they gave help or donation to a church where they saw that it really needed help.

Of course some gamblers do so, not everyone is that kind of gambler that does not have the heart of giving, especially to the religious body, this is just about having an understanding of doing so and being attending to that sense of humor requesting us to do so, because some will prefer spending their own money on the club smoking and spending on liquor or bitches.

Of course, the church will accept it freely because they will think that it is open within the person who wants to give help for the church without asking where it comes from and I think there is nothing wrong with that as long as the church does not know that it came from the gambling casino and there are also other churches that even if they know it came from gambling they will still accept it for sure.

Even if they know the money is gotten from gambling, what they should be concerned about in the heart and willingness to give and not the source through which the money is coming from, a ritualist will never come to tell he got his own money from doing ritual and when he offered his giving, they will accept, then why should knowing a gambler by his lifestyle gambling be an offense.

[danherbias07]

Please correct me if my understanding of what you are saying is correct, there are other gamblers who may have won a large amount and with the size of their winnings, some of the portion winning amount they got from the gambling casino they gave help or donation to a church where they saw that it really needed help.

Of course, the church will accept it freely because they will think that it is open within the person who wants to give help for the church without asking where it comes from and I think there is nothing wrong with that as long as the church does not know that it came from the gambling casino and there are also other churches that even if they know it came from gambling they will still accept it for sure.

Yeah, that's the topic.

About what you said, let's face it there will be people who will be against it especially if they know it came from an illegal act. They will question the church on why they accepted it and that's when bad rumors will come out. That the church is siding with illegal personalities and they are receiving money from them.
But like you said, this is a church and they don't question where it came from and it lives with donations from the community which helps them keep the church.

[Antotena]

Yes almost all the religious I know of preaches against gambling and they believe gambling is a means of getting quick money with the mind set of not working and also with the desperation they have seen in addicted gamblers or people that lose large amounts of money, they view as laboring for self and not for others which is against so many religious teaching s. Some of this doctrine didn't really start today, so the nature of gambling them and now is not the same thing,so I think the best teaching should be moderation in all things

Religion is about guidance and how to be purity as possible. Gambling has been preach about since the inception of gambling in the old days where people traditional use all their time in gambling. As a Muslim, some scholars believe gambling takes people's attention and don't even have time to pray and worship God and the same goes for Christianity preaching but today where phone is what you need to gamble, I don't know if the former believes remains the same.

Whatever we do as a believers, I just hope we get forgive by our lord because we don't even know the things we do that we see as good and bad sometimes. I have friends from difference religious background that are well train and don't take it for granted but they gamble regardless and don't see it as a thing that goes against their beliefs as a religious person, they don't steal and they are not addicted and they go to their place of worships every day.

[TheUltraElite]

Religion can guide those who dont understand how gambling works, it usually gives the advice to avoid gambling and never promote it. I think there is nothing wrong to that but it is wrong to assume that gambling means sinning. It is not so even though the effect on the mind is bad and if done for long might lead to addiction because of the sense of confidence the game often provide.

A human regardless of their religion can gamble - nothing is stopping them apart from their own conscience as long as they understand what they are doing.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Please correct me if my understanding of what you are saying is correct, there are other gamblers who may have won a large amount and with the size of their winnings, some of the portion winning amount they got from the gambling casino they gave help or donation to a church where they saw that it really needed help.

Of course, the church will accept it freely because they will think that it is open within the person who wants to give help for the church without asking where it comes from and I think there is nothing wrong with that as long as the church does not know that it came from the gambling casino and there are also other churches that even if they know it came from gambling they will still accept it for sure.

Yeah, that's the topic.

About what you said, let's face it there will be people who will be against it especially if they know it came from an illegal act. They will question the church on why they accepted it and that's when bad rumors will come out. That the church is siding with illegal personalities and they are receiving money from them.
But like you said, this is a church and they don't question where it came from and it lives with donations from the community which helps them keep the church.

Even in the church, some of the leaders have their different believes about gambling, some would say that there's no passage in the bible that God warns against gambling and because of that, they don't want to seen gambling as sin. I have said it before that there's one church leader that said that the reason they preach against gambling is because it made some people addicted and destroyed their life.

[xenomorfo]

Religion can guide those who dont understand how gambling works, it usually gives the advice to avoid gambling and never promote it. I think there is nothing wrong to that but it is wrong to assume that gambling means sinning. It is not so even though the effect on the mind is bad and if done for long might lead to addiction because of the sense of confidence the game often provide.

A human regardless of their religion can gamble - nothing is stopping them apart from their own conscience as long as they understand what they are doing.

Religion should not guide these things secreting me, because i am atheist? i dont know,  but religion must think of religious and spiritual things for those who believe it, for the rest in normal life it should not really put voice since in the past he has done many more damage than the hypothetical advantages he had to offer.

[Wonder Work]

Of course some gamblers do so, not everyone is that kind of gambler that does not have the heart of giving, especially to the religious body, this is just about having an understanding of doing so and being attending to that sense of humor requesting us to do so, because some will prefer spending their own money on the club smoking and spending on liquor or bitches.

Yes, some such people are humanitarians who prioritise religious institutions first. They always try to keep religious institutions good, and they do whatever financial support is needed to do good. There is a class of people who always stick to good deeds and try their best to keep religious institutions good.

There is another class of people who spend their money on smoking and drinking in clubs or prostitutes. Nowadays, such people are more common who spend money in such places.

Again, another class of people donate to religious institutions, and some are seen donating to clubs. But I have a question here, How do they balance these? If they have a proper conscience, then after donating to religious institutions, they will not spend money on such clubs or prostitutes in the future.

Most of those who win a lot of money by gambling are prostitutes and spend more money in clubs. Such people who have won a lot of money from casinos and, from there, donate to religious institutions are very rare.

[Die_empty]

Even in the church, some of the leaders have their different believes about gambling, some would say that there's no passage in the bible that God warns against gambling and because of that, they don't want to seen gambling as sin. I have said it before that there's one church leader that said that the reason they preach against gambling is because it made some people addicted and destroyed their life.

Beside Islam I am not aware of any religion where gambling is explicitly stated as sin. I might be wrong since there are many religion but this is based on my little experience. In the Bible, there is no record that gambling is forbidden. However, some of these religious leader just like using natural drugs want to protect members from addictions because some behavior can be easily abused. I have also heard religious leaders affirm that gambling is not a sin but they have to speak against it because of abuse.

[madnessteat]

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In fact, many religions have a negative attitude towards gambling even if they do not specify that it is a sin.

Christianity - because gambling is directly related to other sins - greed and avarice.

Islam, it is written in the Koran that gambling is the work of Shaitan.

Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism also condemn gambling, as it can lead a person to negative consequences.

[Hispo]

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Even in the church, some of the leaders have their different believes about gambling, some would say that there's no passage in the bible that God warns against gambling and because of that, they don't want to seen gambling as sin. I have said it before that there's one church leader that said that the reason they preach against gambling is because it made some people addicted and destroyed their life.

That is pretty much preaching based on their own person experiences and the experiences they have observed from others, which is nothing rare to see in some churches, they talk on the anecdotes of some of their followers with alcohol, prostitution, gambling and even crime (the typical case of born again Christians).
Though, to me it is curious how in the new testament there is no direct mention against gambling, considering it was an activity which already existed in the first century of our era.

On the other hand, Islam is pretty much unified when comes to the topic and they reject it completely due to how explicit Koran is about gambling, had Jesus said something about gambling in the same Muhammed did, the world of western gambling would be very different.

[Kristiyana]

Religion never threat for a people life or career, because religion is a total complete guidelines where you can find good solution in your every day life. Gambling is very risky and people’s losing money here, so it has disadvantages, religion will never support anything harmful in our life. So as i knew mostly religion hardly restricted about gamble.

Your point is valid mate, moreover you're right when you say that a religion does not support anything harmful in our life. Of course that's how it is, which is why most religion always prohibit their members from going into gambling. Reason been that they know about the negative effect that gambling can bring in Ones life, however for the fact that they are doing this does not make gambling being a sin. rather they wouldn't want their members to go through any mess caused by gambling.

Apart from the issue of sin, I think rationally, religion should not allow its followers to do anything that has the potential to harm its followers, such as gambling, for example, because as we know, gambling has a very negative impact on a person's life, but on the other hand, talking about the negative impacts, there are still some gamblers who are safe even though they are quite active in gambling, so in my opinion, regardless of the issue of sin or not or whether your religion legalizes gambling or not, the point is that gambling will not lead you to many negative impacts in your life when you treat it in the right and proper way, that's the point in my opinion.

Though you may be right when you said that gambling can not  bring any negative impact to ones life that's depending on how we go about it. But the fact remains that not everyone that can be able to control their emotions when gambling this is why most religion is always against it . Obviously your opinion is very simple and clear, but most people can not be wise enough to go about it the right way.

[TelolettOm]

Please correct me if my understanding of what you are saying is correct, there are other gamblers who may have won a large amount and with the size of their winnings, some of the portion winning amount they got from the gambling casino they gave help or donation to a church where they saw that it really needed help.

If this, we really do not know what people are doing out there. It is even possible that there are people who donate wealth that comes from corruption, robbery, and various other crimes. Then, what is the law?

This will return to the beliefs and also the laws of each religion. But for those who receive and they do not know the origin of the money, it will not be a problem for them and it will be meaningful for them because it helps ease their various burdens.

But for me personally, so far I have never done it, what I mean is using the money from charity to give alms, just from money from other work. And that's what I've done so far, and I'm fine with that.

[Cityhunter34]

In a society where gambling is not seen as a bad attitude or easily discriminated it wont matter. It will only matter when anyone gambling is discriminated. Gambling is not devilish its only a means of maling extra money so i dont see anything wrong with. Sometimes i ask my self wat is it that made people hate those who gamble so much? Perhaps itis the reaction of the gambler after losing or winning that is being discriminated not gambling itself.

Actually there is nothing wrong in gambling, in my opinion gambling is just a way of surviving, if you are the type that doesn't have anything doing. Instead of one to engage in criminal art it will be better to be a gambler because gambling is not bad when you approach it with wiseness rather than chasing losses. For me I don't care if anyone hate gambling or not my own is just to maintain a good gambling habits I don't cares what people may say since I am not doing devilish thing am okay with that.

[taufik123]

Actually there is nothing wrong in gambling, in my opinion gambling is just a way of surviving, if you are the type that doesn't have anything doing. Instead of one to engage in criminal art it will be better to be a gambler because gambling is not bad when you approach it with wiseness rather than chasing losses. For me I don't care if anyone hate gambling or not my own is just to maintain a good gambling habits I don't cares what people may say since I am not doing devilish thing am okay with that.

How to survive?
Maybe more precisely a way to ENJOY life, because if to survive you need to work and make money not by gambling without having income from other jobs.

If you have good gambling habits, then it needs to be maintained, but are you able to stay consistent and consider gambling just a regular game and not depend on gambling.
Gambling is just entertainment in my opinion, and it is a better way than just expecting a big jackpot from gambling,
which will ultimately only take all your money because of gambling greed.

[danherbias07]

Please correct me if my understanding of what you are saying is correct, there are other gamblers who may have won a large amount and with the size of their winnings, some of the portion winning amount they got from the gambling casino they gave help or donation to a church where they saw that it really needed help.

Of course, the church will accept it freely because they will think that it is open within the person who wants to give help for the church without asking where it comes from and I think there is nothing wrong with that as long as the church does not know that it came from the gambling casino and there are also other churches that even if they know it came from gambling they will still accept it for sure.

Yeah, that's the topic.

About what you said, let's face it there will be people who will be against it especially if they know it came from an illegal act. They will question the church on why they accepted it and that's when bad rumors will come out. That the church is siding with illegal personalities and they are receiving money from them.
But like you said, this is a church and they don't question where it came from and it lives with donations from the community which helps them keep the church.

Even in the church, some of the leaders have their different believes about gambling, some would say that there's no passage in the bible that God warns against gambling and because of that, they don't want to seen gambling as sin. I have said it before that there's one church leader that said that the reason they preach against gambling is because it made some people addicted and destroyed their life.

That's actually correct, there's only one passage that is sometimes used to connect to gambling, and that is Timothy 6:10 which says "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil." Well, there are so many things and activities that can be connected to money. Greed is also about getting more money and that sin is not only seen in gambling but in almost everything in this world.
There's no direct scripture about gambling, it's just that it causes a lot of people to suffer which is why it is forbidden by the church but it doesn't mean gamblers are sinners. It can be the root of evil because gamblers who tend to lose or gambling addicts might find evil ways to get money and gamble again.

[Gozie51]

In a society where gambling is not seen as a bad attitude or easily discriminated it wont matter. It will only matter when anyone gambling is discriminated. Gambling is not devilish its only a means of maling extra money so i dont see anything wrong with. Sometimes i ask my self wat is it that made people hate those who gamble so much? Perhaps itis the reaction of the gambler after losing or winning that is being discriminated not gambling itself.

Gambling is seen as way they people want to get rich quick and so those who hate people gambling is because of the reason of trying to bypass processes and try to get rich quick but at the end it never works amounting to waste of time and resources. Parents will be against their children who gamble because they see it as fruitless and at the end money wasted instead of being put into good use and investment.

The bible condemn the love of money because if you love money you will have high attraction for it and would do anything to go for it including gambling.

Before now, the society has a higher percentage of household that hates gambling but I don't think so now because the family moral system has dropped and parents no longer have hold to discipline children who are going contrary to home training. This has led to the growth of gambling and the youths who gamble and fortunate to win have sustained their family for some , especially those from poor homes.

[Y3shot]

In a society where gambling is not seen as a bad attitude or easily discriminated it wont matter. It will only matter when anyone gambling is discriminated. Gambling is not devilish its only a means of maling extra money so i dont see anything wrong with. Sometimes i ask my self wat is it that made people hate those who gamble so much? Perhaps itis the reaction of the gambler after losing or winning that is being discriminated not gambling itself.

Actually there is nothing wrong in gambling, in my opinion gambling is just a way of surviving, if you are the type that doesn't have anything doing. Instead of one to engage in criminal art it will be better to be a gambler because gambling is not bad when you approach it with wiseness rather than chasing losses. For me I don't care if anyone hate gambling or not my own is just to maintain a good gambling habits I don't cares what people may say since I am not doing devilish thing am okay with that.

Nobody is saying gambling is bad or devilish, where people do have issues with gamblers is because they misunderstand gambling and they gambling back to back trying to get money by all means which we know money can't be made like that in gambling.  Some people are not in support of gambling because some gamblers abuse it, they go into gambling with the wrong mindset and it becomes a problem to them that is is why some people don't encourage gambling,  it is not devilish.