Do you think Mr. President is right on this?

[NicNacCoin]

 Both sides have suffered losses, but Ukraine has borne the greater burden. From my stand point the Ukrainian haven't just lost soldiers; they have also lost countless civilians, immigrants, homes, land, and families. While the president may have his reasons for his speech, if it is intended as a mechanism to end the war, its effectiveness remains uncertain.

Although both sides have suffered losses, the Ukrainian people have suffered the most. Although Russia has not suffered much in the war between Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine has suffered a lot because many families have been destroyed, many people have died and they have suffered commercially and financially in every way. This war system should really be stopped. Only when this war system is stopped will peace be established in the country, but if Donald Trump warns about this, I think there will be something positive here.

[BADecker]

You can't stop Z from suiciding himself and his nation. Help them along a little with Oreshnik.

Besides, it's almost time to plant. Good way to churn up the soil.



EDIT: How embarrassing for Putin. And maybe Trump, too. All along they were both trying to save Ukraine. But Ukraine is intent on suicide.

[Lucius]

Ukraine and its European allies are powerless without the US. Trump has decided to please his friend Putin. Ukraine have no other option that to accept a US-Russia tailored deal or continue fighting. And without the support of the US, Ukraine is doomed to fail. Sadly, Ukraine is becoming the loser.

The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine. Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $145 billion* in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance

I would not agree with you and anyone who thinks like you, because the EU (with a couple of exceptions - Hungary) strongly stands by Ukraine all the time - and if you think that $145 billion is little, then you definitely have a problem understanding how much money it is - not much less than the US has given so far (in total we are talking about $175 billion).

Donald has been a creator of chaos and a great friend of Putler for a long time, and it is no secret - what he is doing now is a double game in which he and his clowns want to get possession of valuable minerals by getting them easily with the signature of VZ, or for Russia to conquer even more territory and then share those same minerals with the US.

Ukraine has been fighting for three years and will fight for as long as necessary, and if any of these poor politicians in the EU had what they clearly don't have, then they would clearly tell the US to go home and leave Ukraine in the care of the EU and the UK. The EU and the UK together have over 500 million inhabitants and are one of the most powerful regions in the world - anyone who thinks that the US is a key player is badly mistaken.

Two crazy people can negotiate as much as they want, without the EU and Ukraine, no agreement is valid.

[Accardo]

On the stance of the money issued to Ukraine by the US government, Trump already mentioned that they'll pay back, through their natural resources. He blamed Biden for funding Zelensky without asking for a dime. However, in a bargain Putin is a bolder body to convince to stop the war. Ukraine appear vulnerable and would want the peace, so I'd expect that US first off get the loyalty of Russia to end the war, Ukraine isn't a problem. The war wouldn't have started, Biden didn't make a great deal during his tenure, so it's best to end the fight and killings notwithstanding the method or strategy being implemented to get it done.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy failed to reach a deal with Donald Trump.  Trump wants to have access to the resources of Ukraine but Zelenskyy wants a security guarantee.  The US is not willing to give such a guarantee so Ukraine is not willing to grant them access to these rare mineral resources.  Maybe Trump had gotten a better deal from Vladimir Putin and Ukraine will have to bear the consequences. Trump just called Zelenskyya dictator because the Ukrainian said he believes Russian misinformation.

Yeah, Trump said they'll have to pay about 3-5% for security, and from the look of it, Ukraine have no option on the decision of paying back the money Biden gave to them. President Donald Trump is seriously getting back whatever was taken away from the American people during the last administration. Ukraine on the other hand is in a mess, they're losing soldiers at levels nobody has ever seen before since the second world war. Probably, Trump will visit the country for final conclusions on this matter.

[Fiatless]

Ukraine and its European allies are powerless without the US. Trump has decided to please his friend Putin. Ukraine have no other option that to accept a US-Russia tailored deal or continue fighting. And without the support of the US, Ukraine is doomed to fail. Sadly, Ukraine is becoming the loser.

The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine. Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $145 billion* in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance

I would not agree with you and anyone who thinks like you, because the EU (with a couple of exceptions - Hungary) strongly stands by Ukraine all the time - and if you think that $145 billion is little, then you definitely have a problem understanding how much money it is - not much less than the US has given so far (in total we are talking about $175 billion).

Donald has been a creator of chaos and a great friend of Putler for a long time, and it is no secret - what he is doing now is a double game in which he and his clowns want to get possession of valuable minerals by getting them easily with the signature of VZ, or for Russia to conquer even more territory and then share those same minerals with the US.

Ukraine has been fighting for three years and will fight for as long as necessary, and if any of these poor politicians in the EU had what they clearly don't have, then they would clearly tell the US to go home and leave Ukraine in the care of the EU and the UK. The EU and the UK together have over 500 million inhabitants and are one of the most powerful regions in the world - anyone who thinks that the US is a key player is badly mistaken.

Two crazy people can negotiate as much as they want, without the EU and Ukraine, no agreement is valid.

I honestly wished that Europe could support Ukraine to defeat Russia without the assistance of the US. King Trump had become very proud and arrogant, he deserves to be humbled. But for now Europe can't protect Ukraine without the US.

European officials also say only a U.S. guarantee would protect European peacekeepers and deter Russia from any future attack on Ukraine.

European forces would struggle to guarantee Ukraine peace without US backing

Volodymyr Zelenskiy didn’t mince words during an interview at Davos yesterday, telling European leaders that they won’t be able to protect Ukraine without the help of the US.

Europe Can’t Defend Ukraine Without Help From the US

If Europe could guarantee Ukraine's security, Volodymyr Zelenskyy wouldn't have considered signing this deal after the disrespect from Trump.

The White House national security adviser, Mike Waltz, said on Friday that the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, was expected to sign a minerals agreement with the United States imminently, as part of broader negotiations to end the war with Russia.

Trump official says Zelenskyy will sign US minerals deal ‘in the very short term’

[jstyler]

don't think the president's words will change much, EU's $145 billion in aid is a clear sign of their commitment to Ukraine, and honestly, who needs a US guarantee when the EU and UK together have 500m inhabitants and can make their own decisions?

[thefreethinker]

OP you forgot to quote the statement from Mr. President, thus I do not get what to analyze and give feedback whether its right or wrong. However, I believe Ukraine suffered the most lost compared to Russia, personally I will totally disagree to Ukraine yielding their territory to Russia for that flimsy of a reason. Ukraine has suffered a lot, she must keep her territory and also be compensated.

[Lida93]

Yeah, Trump said they'll have to pay about 3-5% for security, and from the look of it, Ukraine have no option on the decision of paying back the money Biden gave to them. President Donald Trump is seriously getting back whatever was taken away from the American people during the last administration. Ukraine on the other hand is in a mess, they're losing soldiers at levels nobody has ever seen before since the second world war. Probably, Trump will visit the country for final conclusions on this matter.

Perhaps the Biden administration wasn't really a liberal donor as many are speculating it to be towards Ukraine, I recall sometime in 2023 what led to the termination of the grain deal by Russia was due to the accusation against Ukraine and the West not respecting thw deal brokered as most percentage of the grains exported the West were a major benefactor instead of the poor designated countries a revelation which wasn't the original deal.
So maybe Ukraine was also invariably paying for some of the aids they enjoyed from US in Biden's administration but just that Trump wants more which Ukraine can't really offer. Perhaps I could be wrong on this.

[Pablo-wood]

OP you forgot to quote the statement from Mr. President, thus I do not get what to analyze and give feedback whether its right or wrong. However, I believe Ukraine suffered the most lost compared to Russia, personally I will totally disagree to Ukraine yielding their territory to Russia for that flimsy of a reason. Ukraine has suffered a lot, she must keep her territory and also be compensated.

Sorry, my bad I forgot to drop the X link to the post here you can watch the video for yourself so you can get the proper words of the president.

[uneng]

Trump is a traitor of western values and principles which took the world to its pinnacle, which lasted until the first decade of 2000's. He behaves like a bandit, a mercenary, subverting the reality in an attempt to mould it to his own personal interests.

He doesn't fight, neither lives for honor, justice and loyalty. He just desire to stand by the side of those considered to be the strongest by his limited and mediocre sight.

On the other hand, Ukrainians are fighting for their honor, as they are simply defending their homeland from an aggressor who doesn't respect anyone, doesn't have any morals and has a vast history of crimes against its own people.

Trump knows about it, and that is what makes him more despicable yet.

[BADecker]

Trump is a traitor of western values and principles which took the world to its pinnacle, which lasted until the first decade of 2000's. He behaves like a bandit, a mercenary, subverting the reality in an attempt to mould it to his own personal interests.

He doesn't fight, neither lives for honor, justice and loyalty. He just desire to stand by the side of those considered to be the strongest by his limited and mediocre sight.

On the other hand, Ukrainians are fighting for their honor, as they are simply defending their homeland from an aggressor who doesn't respect anyone, doesn't have any morals and has a vast history of crimes against its own people.

Trump knows about it, and that is what makes him more despicable yet.

Everybody does things for his own benefit. Even if these things benefit other people, they do them for their own benefit, too. Why not Trump, just like everybody else?

If Western values are the bringing down of America, then you have Trump all wrong. The things that Trump is doing are bringing America back to the strength that we should have had all along.

For example. Trump is against abortion. But he would rather each State decide than the Federal. However, anybody can see that abortion is bad for the country. How is it bad? In the 70-million or so abortions that have been done, think of how many geniuses have been killed off... men and women who would have MAGA more than ever, if they had been allowed to live.

[CroverNo01]

This is not a time for us to join in debating whether on which party suffer on losses more than the other, what we hope for now is peace, for everything to return back to normalcy, the world leaders on countless attempts have made their stance towards settling it, but I think it's something beyond they could just interfere on, if Trump could just make his way in, then we anticipate to see the war ending by his influence and not to stir on any continuation.

What's your opinion concerning the ugly incidence, the numerous killings of innocent citizens? Homes and lives was destroy and jobs lost, who do you think suffered them? The common citizens that strive for survival? Absolutely correct because the main men in power fled overseas for protection. I'm just hoping the new President of the United States is able to bring an end to this war.

America is world power and will do everything within their capacity to calm the whole Russia and Ukraine outwar. Donald Trump have step in, he is a man that his reputation precedes him, he's acting President of the United States of America will calmly ettled the ongoing outstanding disputes between both countries. Russia and Ukraine have suffered huge loss in the long ranging war, it's time for both countries to come together and concord about resolving these issues.

[Hispo]

Even if there is further context of those words by the president Trump, I would not be surprised if he actually intended to abandon Ukraine and allow Russia to get all the land conquered through this inhumane invasion. We live in times in which the president of the USA tries to white-wash the image of Russia and Putin, when doing such a thing is a challenge, because Russia started all of this by invading Ukraine.
Future generations are going to look back at this presidency and are going to wonder what people were thinking by allowing a president who praises dictators to take control over what it is suppoose to be the beacon of liberty, freedom and republic values.

One can only feel bad for the Ukrainian people who fought for years just to be left alone by the people of the USA.

[nagaechka]

I don't know what he's up to, but he talks a lot of nonsense.

[SeeaDrik777]

The war won't end this year, that's for sure, there's a lot of talk, but there's nothing to do.

[macson]

Even though they are not willing that some of their lands become part of Russia, but what can they do? Take it back and start another bloodshed? I don't think the international community will condone their actions anymore. Just accept it. Even though it is a bitter pill for Ukraine to swallow, it is much better than starting another war and sacrificing more people.

[BADecker]

Even though they are not willing that some of their lands become part of Russia, but what can they do? Take it back and start another bloodshed? I don't think the international community will condone their actions anymore. Just accept it. Even though it is a bitter pill for Ukraine to swallow, it is much better than starting another war and sacrificing more people.

Will need to remove/assassinate Zelensky for this to happen.

[philipma1957]

you might want to write the entire quote into your post

anyways. that land was not russian..
the battle is due to ukraine wanting to join the EU and thus NATO. but russia fears that where ukraine was the buffer land separating russia from most of the EU. that if ukraine joins EU there is no buffer.. and so he wants to carve out a piece of ukraines land via bombs and death to create a new no mans land buffer

russia, if truly afraid of eu neighbours, could peacefully and cheaply just compensate his own populous on russias western side to move X00km east and carve off a no mans land of his own on the russian side. with no death or destruction.. russia certainly has enough spare land to do this.

Oh the largest country in the world needs to expand bro.

Much like capitalism Russia prefers to expand. They want all their satellite countries back.

And they are working on melting the icecaps to make their tundra farmable.

All about expansion.

meanwhile look at this news below about the musky trumpeter.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zelenskiy-aims-trump-meeting-deal-103659665.html

"(Bloomberg) -- Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy aims to meet with Donald Trump in Washington this week to sign an agreement giving the US control over half of the war-battered country’s natural resources, according to people familiar with the plans."

So Trump has succeeded in twisting Zelenskiy's arm to give the USA a good mineral deal

Ahh extortion 101 the musky Trumpeter still has it.

and the beat goes on.

meanwhile eth has BARTED TO  2414

AT LEAST IT IS FUN WATCHING THAT POS  get crushed.

seems to me the USA wants to expand its spheres of influence just a bit more.

Panama
Greenland
and Canada may want to think about what is happening to the Ukraine.

[BADecker]

^^^ The problem with the mineral deal is that it places the US right in Ukraine. This is exactly the thing that the Russians did not want. The meeting between Trump and Putin, if it was honest and true, should be something that would remove the sanctions. Since it didn't, we are looking at the US pushing its way right into Ukraine. Will this lead to direct war with Russia? Or doesn't it matter for some reason?

[UNTO Chain]

I agree with your response. I believe that the Ukrainian people have been more affected by this war than Russia has, and they should be given aid in order to help them recover from their losses.