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March 08, 2025, 08:13:41 AM
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Many people can't realize how risky trading is. If you decide to trade, you have to be with your computer 24/7, watching charts every day. It's not easy, it's a very hard thing to do. You have to forget going out, having fun, meeting someone... You have to be focused on trading charts every day. It gets boring and very stressful within a few days. Despite the fact that profit can be amazing, it stresses you so much that for me, it wasn't worth it and I moved from trading to long-term investing.
Buying Bitcoin and holding it long-term can be more profitable than trading because trading doesn't always come with profits, sometimes you lose a lot and it vanishes every hard work that you did to profit.

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March 08, 2025, 09:27:28 AM
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Sometimes quite a lot of people are fomo in things like this just because they see it once and immediately conclude about the benefits that are said to be easy, even though it is not like that in reality. In terms of trading, knowledge or science as you said is quite important because losses in this case can be said to still be prevented from happening and it depends on the knowledge and science that we have about trading.
You are right, there are many factors that need to be considered in trading, generally they must be able to manage finances well and other factors also need to be considered, the goal is to prevent major losses. For people who only think about their profits, they may continue to do it even with minimal knowledge.
why most people have such expectations because maybe social branding can also be blamed why people have such expectations, just look at the brokers who advertise them saying that trading seems very easy and also trading is considered a financially free job so that people think towards results not on the process, look at the traders most of them do flexing on their social media but do not show how many failures and losses they experience, therefore it is necessary to show a lot of education rather than results so that people have the power to think first before fantasizing.
It is true, I who spend most of my daily life on social media and yes, not once or twice I have seen advertisements about this saying that trading is an easy thing to do, and yes for people who are fomo this can certainly attract their attention. With one of my friends who is still in high school, he has recently been interested in seeing advertisements like this and he began to learn to understand it well I had time to say fomo, but if he is serious, hopefully he can succeed.
Not only in this case, but indeed many people who are involved in various things do not show their failures but with the results they tend to show, so there is also truth in saying that other people will not care about the process but they will see the results. This is a real statement in my opinion.
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March 08, 2025, 01:28:37 PM
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Many people can't realize how risky trading is. If you decide to trade, you have to be with your computer 24/7, watching charts every day. It's not easy, it's a very hard thing to do. You have to forget going out, having fun, meeting someone... You have to be focused on trading charts every day. It gets boring and very stressful within a few days. Despite the fact that profit can be amazing, it stresses you so much that for me, it wasn't worth it and I moved from trading to long-term investing.
Buying Bitcoin and holding it long-term can be more profitable than trading because trading doesn't always come with profits, sometimes you lose a lot and it vanishes every hard work that you did to profit.
In fact, trading is not as easy as people think at first. Most new traders jump in with the hope of making high profits in a short time, but in reality, trading is not what they think it is. When it comes to watching charts, it is not possible for everyone, because they do not have that much patience, watching charts all day and analyzing every small movement is not possible for everyone, because beginners will easily get bored of doing it for a few days. That is why not everyone can succeed in trading. Although they may make some profits sometimes, but most of the time they will face losses. That is why you have to be patient first, you have to learn trading first, and trading is not something you learn quickly, you have to spend a lot of time behind it, and over time you will have to suffer losses and learn from those losses, and in this way it is possible to learn trading well at one stage

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March 08, 2025, 02:08:12 PM
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I think it would be better to take risks for financial progress because for progress and for a better future, in investing or trading you need to learn a lot and the procedures that you need to master in order to always bring good luck, therefore you need to try even though there are ups and downs that will be faced, in trading there is always a risk, but believing in yourself is more important when you are going to start investing or trading.
Progress and the future must be arranged through the actions that we do ourselves because if someone who still has fear in facing risks in every job including in the field of investment and trading, of course there will be no progress that he can get in the future. So for that matter, it must be studied very completely because people who already have more knowledge about trading and investment will not consider ups and downs as a problem. Because from that, everyone can also take an opportunity to find a higher level of profit through trading and investment.

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March 08, 2025, 02:27:32 PM
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Many people can't realize how risky trading is. If you decide to trade, you have to be with your computer 24/7, watching charts every day. It's not easy, it's a very hard thing to do. You have to forget going out, having fun, meeting someone... You have to be focused on trading charts every day. It gets boring and very stressful within a few days. Despite the fact that profit can be amazing, it stresses you so much that for me, it wasn't worth it and I moved from trading to long-term investing.
Buying Bitcoin and holding it long-term can be more profitable than trading because trading doesn't always come with profits, sometimes you lose a lot and it vanishes every hard work that you did to profit.
In fact, trading is not as easy as people think at first. Most new traders jump in with the hope of making high profits in a short time, but in reality, trading is not what they think it is. When it comes to watching charts, it is not possible for everyone, because they do not have that much patience, watching charts all day and analyzing every small movement is not possible for everyone, because beginners will easily get bored of doing it for a few days. That is why not everyone can succeed in trading. Although they may make some profits sometimes, but most of the time they will face losses. That is why you have to be patient first, you have to learn trading first, and trading is not something you learn quickly, you have to spend a lot of time behind it, and over time you will have to suffer losses and learn from those losses, and in this way it is possible to learn trading well at one stage
Just let those people do think on what they do think about trading because sooner or later on which they will really be able to encounter on whats the reality of trading on which on how hard it is on which we know that this isnt really that something that you can be able to have a good hold of it with just few tries on which we know that learning trading skills does really take up some time and does really take up tons of efforts and realizations before you would really be able to have a good grasps into it. It will really be that situational because not all will really be that the same when it comes to outcomes and results into their trades on which we know that this will really be that not the same into each individual. In speaking about damages and other potential problems or conclusions then it will be giving out that different impressions on which it will be leading into those conditions on which whether you do make out some outright decisions whether you should be doing this and that. Trading can cause damage if you dont really know on what you are doing or simply making up some buying without having considerations on when to do so, not unless if you are really that going for long term then this wont really be that much of an issue. The good thing about doing trading is that you do able to lessen up the risks involved if you do really have that kind of progress when it comes to trading skills learning on which it will really be that relevant.
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March 08, 2025, 03:51:25 PM
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Although there is a chance to get cash profit from trading, not everyone is much worthy for trading. Some people think that trading is suitable only for making money, but in reality, there is no way to say that trading is an easy way. If a person is more enthusiastic about investing than trading, then he will be able to achieve better results. Since Bitcoin is volatile, traders can get good results from it, but trading is definitely riskier than investing. For those who are enthusiastic about investing, especially those who are interested in long-term investment, investing in Bitcoin will definitely be profitable. And those who want to trade need to pay more attention to trading-related issues.
Yes, not everyone is suitable for trading there, complexity is the main factor that causes many traders to experience obstacles or difficulties in carrying out these activities. I think many traders experience losses there and stress always haunts them because what they have learned so far has not succeeded in getting what they want.

Indeed, many people switch to investing with long-term methods rather than returning to trading, although investing in both methods can be profitable, but the risk of both is what distinguishes them. Long-term investment is not too complicated compared to trading, they only put in their money every month without them studying candles every day if the person already knows a coin that has strong or good fundamentals.
Personal ability also matters as well. While it is true that everyone could work really hard and eventually achieve a capability of trading, some may take longer than others. The whole world is filled with people who have very bad mathematical skills, my wife for example has hard time multiplying two digit numbers in the head, so we can safely assume she would have hard time becoming a decent trader, and she would need to work harder to become one.

Emotional issues are another, if you lose and that causes stress that haunts you then you are not going to be a great trader, what you should do instead when you lose is look for the mistake you have done and check your education on trading, it would allow you to be better.

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March 08, 2025, 04:19:17 PM
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Many people can't realize how risky trading is. If you decide to trade, you have to be with your computer 24/7, watching charts every day. It's not easy, it's a very hard thing to do. You have to forget going out, having fun, meeting someone... You have to be focused on trading charts every day. It gets boring and very stressful within a few days. Despite the fact that profit can be amazing, it stresses you so much that for me, it wasn't worth it and I moved from trading to long-term investing.
Buying Bitcoin and holding it long-term can be more profitable than trading because trading doesn't always come with profits, sometimes you lose a lot and it vanishes every hard work that you did to profit.

I think it quite depends on the kind of trading that you engage in. You can either opt in for spot trading or futures trading. Spot trading is less risky than Features trading. When you spot trade, you're holding your assets in a particular or couple of few coins with the hope that the market fluctuations favour the growth of the coin, then you take up all your profits or in partials. Whereas features trading allows you to stake your funds while you predict the market trends. If it goes correctly, viola. In the event it does not go well, you lose your staked funds without any profit. Here's the difference and why spots is less risky and can be attempted by anyone. Your funds are safe, only that they are at the mercy of the coin you invested into. If the coin performs well and grows by some percent, you can withdraw the funds with its current value, otherwise, when the coin dips, you can allow it to remain until it grows again then take your profits.
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March 08, 2025, 06:07:51 PM
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I believe there are several ways to profit from trading. You can buy a cryptocurrency, NFT, or token for a small price and hold it as well. It can be a long-term investment, take a look at Bitcoin, Ethereum, or even Litecoin, the appreciation continues year after year.

So, for me, trading is an investment, because it requires research, data analysis, in my opinion it is not that different from stocks.

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March 08, 2025, 09:26:48 PM
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If someone trades without having knowledge, skills or even without doing analysis I think they are not traders but rather people like that are gamblers, because trading is not just guessing up and down but must have logical analysis both technically and fundamentally which are very important elements in trading.

Money management, emotional management, strategy is one of the elements that must always be present in trading, it really doesn't make sense if you don't have that and keep forcing trading, the defeat will be much greater than the victory in trading, those like that will only give alms to the market. LOL
You are right, when someone trades without having knowledge of course they only hope to get lucky from their trade and if luck is not on their side then they must accept the loss due to their own actions and first take the time to learn trading before deciding to trade is the right decision for anyone who wants to start because some people who already have experience still experience failure, let alone those who do not understand anything but choose to enter trading of course this is very wrong there will be many losses experienced if they force themselves to trade without having any knowledge about it.

I still wonder why some one will go into trading hoping to make profit without having any knowledge that's gambling if you ask me cause that's the only thing that requires zero knowledge to begin and you gamble and hope to be lucky before you can make profit. Experience traders also lose in trading but you can't compare a trader with experience and a total newbie in trading. The losses will be too much and the treader will not withstand the amount that he will be losing everyday unless he is willing to stop trading till he gets knowledge.

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If someone trades without having knowledge, skills or even without doing analysis I think they are not traders but rather people like that are gamblers, because trading is not just guessing up and down but must have logical analysis both technically and fundamentally which are very important elements in trading.

Money management, emotional management, strategy is one of the elements that must always be present in trading, it really doesn't make sense if you don't have that and keep forcing trading, the defeat will be much greater than the victory in trading, those like that will only give alms to the market. LOL
You are right, when someone trades without having knowledge of course they only hope to get lucky from their trade and if luck is not on their side then they must accept the loss due to their own actions and first take the time to learn trading before deciding to trade is the right decision for anyone who wants to start because some people who already have experience still experience failure, let alone those who do not understand anything but choose to enter trading of course this is very wrong there will be many losses experienced if they force themselves to trade without having any knowledge about it.

I still wonder why some one will go into trading hoping to make profit without having any knowledge that's gambling if you ask me cause that's the only thing that requires zero knowledge to begin and you gamble and hope to be lucky before you can make profit. Experience traders also lose in trading but you can't compare a trader with experience and a total newbie in trading. The losses will be too much and the treader will not withstand the amount that he will be losing everyday unless he is willing to stop trading till he gets knowledge.
Going to the trading field without having adequate knowledge is by no means something that can be looked at or done superficially. There is no certainty in the market and such a person will have a challenge managing the decisions made. Others, who get used to it, perform improvement that is not always proper to the expectations; however, they have learned how to overcome it. It is unlike a person who is still new and has no well laid down structure to counter the forces that exert pressure to change the prices. If not well prepared than the challenges faced may be much higher than one is capable of handling.

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To me this is a wise statement, because trading and investing are two different thing in the financial market, while both has buying and selling of assets, they have characteristics and risks that make them different.
Let look at the characteristics and risks that make them different, though both are risky, but one is less risky and more profitable than the other.

And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.


Absolutely trading can cause you a whole lot damage than investing, and this is because they may be having similar attributes but different patterns and investing needs more of long-term accessibility of growth but trading varies and in most cases it's advisable to trade with long-term demands of profits and besides trading has a high risks factors of generating losses but in investing it's quite limited, that's what makes the clearer difference between both. By the way trading is seen by most people as a quick money space this is why some tend to trade and hope for profits in a jiffy but it needs patience and time cause the markets isn't favourable most times.

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And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.
This is the most important for one to understand before going into trading or to hodl bitcoin. You don't just make Decisions to go into trading just because you want to make profit without fully understanding it and the risk that is with it, same thing goes with bitcoin hodling.  Their should be plans of learning , and have goals why you are going into in to trading or investing bitcoin.
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Generally investing is less risky and more profitable than trading, no threat when it comes to price movement just secure your investment you are good to go.
Investing is less risky no doubt but when you invest in the wrong coins you could lose more than some traders that are doing their due diligence before opening a trade.  Out of ignorance some people have invested in shitcoins and for some it's out of greed for quick profit they had to gamble with their money in memecoins and hyped projects.

I think if anyone has some good trading knowledge they could combine in both trading and investing. Investing in real less risky coin like bitcoin while having to trade with other alternative coins.

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And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.
This is the most important for one to understand before going into trading or to hodl bitcoin. You don't just make Decisions to go into trading just because you want to make profit without fully understanding it and the risk that is with it, same thing goes with bitcoin hodling.  Their should be plans of learning , and have goals why you are going into in to trading or investing bitcoin.
I think hold of BTC is much safe if you have money that you will not use for any purpose. There are many people who are traders  and they lose and get everyday and everyday is different from the other . Trading is risky as comparison to investing for long term because if person will Invest for long term ,he will get profit when market will be stable but that take time . In the every second, rate of BTC is changing BTC could damage your economic status .Candle will be make when many people will sell the tokens and you will lose money. That is cryptocurrency and you should invest your in that what you want to lose . If someone is not ready to lose, then cryptocurrency is not for him .











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This is the most important for one to understand before going into trading or to hodl bitcoin. You don't just make Decisions to go into trading just because you want to make profit without fully understanding it and the risk that is with it, same thing goes with bitcoin hodling.  Their should be plans of learning , and have goals why you are going into in to trading or investing bitcoin.
That is the actual reason why many chooses to trade. About making profit quickly even without understanding how trading works. Just like now, for sure that there will be a lot of people that got liquidated. They don't understand how the market works and if they have, it's not yet enough and that's why the market is making them realize that this market is so vast that they cannot even understand what is happening whenever the market flashes a crash.

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This is the most important for one to understand before going into trading or to hodl bitcoin. You don't just make Decisions to go into trading just because you want to make profit without fully understanding it and the risk that is with it, same thing goes with bitcoin hodling.  Their should be plans of learning , and have goals why you are going into in to trading or investing bitcoin.
Many people prefer to invest in bitcoin rather than choosing to become traders. But apart from that, every day there are always sellers and buyers, but in my opinion, choosing trading will make us uncomfortable, especially when the price drops, we panic and choose the wrong decision.

But by investing we only hold in the long term and buy regularly. The purpose of investing is none other than to make a profit, but in bitcoin investment we will make regular purchases every week to accumulate more bitcoins.
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Trading involves buying and selling of assets within a short period of time, either within a minute, an hour or in a day in other for you to make quick money, which can be spent within a short time.

For the fact that trading is all about making quick money it can also damage you emotionally if you don't make quick decisions and react to market fluctuations.

This is where many newbies misunderstand the concept of trading; many think trading is a quick reach scheme, which it is not. Trading is not a get-rich-quick scheme. It also takes time before you can be able to make money from trading. The market has a lot of risk that you must master before you trade. However, if you are emotionally stable, then you should know that trading has nothing to do with your feelings. Just trade with caution and trade with the money you can afford to lose. Don’t be greedy.

When it comes to investing, investors only buy assets and hold for a long period of time without frequent transaction of buying and selling of assets.

You misunderstood something here; investors can buy more, but it is a wrong decision to sell their investment when they have made enough profit or after investing for a short period of time. They are supposed to leave it in there and continue buying bitcoin until they are able to buy as much as they can. Don’t say they can buy or sell; rather, they buy more, but it’s not advisable to sell.

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March 10, 2025, 10:03:16 PM
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Many people can't realize how risky trading is. If you decide to trade, you have to be with your computer 24/7, watching charts every day. It's not easy, it's a very hard thing to do. You have to forget going out, having fun, meeting someone... You have to be focused on trading charts every day. It gets boring and very stressful within a few days. Despite the fact that profit can be amazing, it stresses you so much that for me, it wasn't worth it and I moved from trading to long-term investing.
Buying Bitcoin and holding it long-term can be more profitable than trading because trading doesn't always come with profits, sometimes you lose a lot and it vanishes every hard work that you did to profit.

I think it quite depends on the kind of trading that you engage in. You can either opt in for spot trading or futures trading. Spot trading is less risky than Features trading. When you spot trade, you're holding your assets in a particular or couple of few coins with the hope that the market fluctuations favour the growth of the coin, then you take up all your profits or in partials. Whereas features trading allows you to stake your funds while you predict the market trends. If it goes correctly, viola. In the event it does not go well, you lose your staked funds without any profit. Here's the difference and why spots is less risky and can be attempted by anyone. Your funds are safe, only that they are at the mercy of the coin you invested into. If the coin performs well and grows by some percent, you can withdraw the funds with its current value, otherwise, when the coin dips, you can allow it to remain until it grows again then take your profits.
I had lots of stressful days and nights during spot trading but futures were overkill, on futures I lost lots of money but also made lots of money with 10x leverage but it was so risky that I don't want to think about those days again, I was 0.2% away from full liquidation on Matic.
I remember days when BNB was worth 40 dollars per coin I accidentally bought it at $40, forget it and one day I woke up seeing it going through the roof. The first very stressful day for me in trading was 2021/02/19 when BNB went from 192 to 348 USD. I wanted to profit as much as possible but the next day coin crashed, I lost 50% of my profit but I decided to not sleep and gain money on pumps that were happening during the crash. I successfully managed to return back the original capital that I had after BNB's success. Long story short, it doesn't matter what type of trading you do, it's a nightmare if it's a day trade.

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March 13, 2025, 07:53:28 AM
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Actually investing in Bitcoin is far better than trading because there is no guarantee of making good profits from trading, the chance of losing is always bigger than the chance of getting profits from it. But when you invest in Bitcoin and hold for future purposes is most surely yield good profits at last, because the most important thing when it comes to Bitcoin investment is just time and patience.

 
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March 13, 2025, 03:25:54 PM
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I believe there are several ways to profit from trading. You can buy a cryptocurrency, NFT, or token for a small price and hold it as well. It can be a long-term investment, take a look at Bitcoin, Ethereum, or even Litecoin, the appreciation continues year after year.

So, for me, trading is an investment, because it requires research, data analysis, in my opinion it is not that different from stocks.
yes normally trading is a short investment there is no doubt, but where am disagreeing with you is putting ethereum and litecoin to be good coins for long term investment, and you fother said that, the appreciation of this 2 coins continues year by year which I doubt, because because I haven't seen or witness such appreciation from ethereum and litecoin, only bitcoin has created a solid history of appreciation, not ethereum not litecoin just as mentioned.

To me bitcoin is the only coin for long term approach when it comes to investment, because bitcoin has proven itself to be a store value with potential returns, so I don't see where ethereum and litecoin has proven themselves to a store of value with potential returns, ethereum and litecoin are good for trading, and beside ethereum and litecoin price is still dancing in the crypto market, nothing to show for now.

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