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October 19, 2025, 05:01:02 AM
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The time when formal education mattered more than real-world education is long gone. Nowadays, schools and universities (not all, but the vast majority) seem more focused on shaping activists rather than people willing to bring real improvement to the world. So, someone with a good idea and the right skills can easily end up doing much better than someone who followed the traditional academic path.
Those important educational periods are now slowly disappearing because most educators are unable to produce good graduates. This is due to the quality of education itself. Some educational institutions still have a good reputation as a means of gaining further knowledge and innovation from existing knowledge. This is also driven by open sources of knowledge. With the internet, everyone can access various existing research to study.

Today, we have entered an era where skills are paramount. Regardless of their background, if they have proficient skills and innovative and creative thinking, it will be easy for someone to achieve freedom in life.

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October 19, 2025, 05:38:35 AM
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First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system?

The first question answer  is yes, reason been that a good educational systems is capable of producing graduate who is fully informed and meet the industrial requirements not just a mere academic work, but backed by practical experience within the area of study. The critical problem solving and all technical abilities.
Educational systems that focus only on theory is already a failed educational systems because they will produce graduate that is unemployable in the industrial system of work making them irrelevant in the society.

Today technology is shifting from different dimensions, any institution of learning or education that failed to adapt and produce a graduate of current technology is already a failed educational systems, because they will lack industrial requirements, a skilled worker who by virtue of knowledge acquired,  related skill can be of more relevant and employable than graduate of same field. In my opinion this is a result of failed educational systems.

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October 19, 2025, 11:26:39 AM
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I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

This is a nice question, and I will like to say my own opinion concerning your question.

Well if I am the employer I will go for skills by knowing how skillful he or she is,reason been that skill is mostly a practical learning which one under go for some period of time and have the full knowledge about the particular skills and have the certificate of qualification, and this will guarantee  the employee that he or she can do well in that very field i am about to employ him or her.

But when it comes to education,some many schools doesn't have the equipment to train the students which have make a lot of students today to remain ignorant of what they claim to have studied, theory without practice doesn't perfectly give good understanding, and again alot of students nowadays can hardly prove their certificate, due to the poor learning process or certificate forger,so i will prefer skills than certificate.
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October 19, 2025, 11:54:47 AM
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This is a nice question, and I will like to say my own opinion concerning your question.

Well if I am the employer I will go for skills by knowing how skillful he or she is,reason been that skill is mostly a practical learning which one under go for some period of time and have the full knowledge about the particular skills and have the certificate of qualification, and this will guarantee  the employee that he or she can do well in that very field i am about to employ him or her.

But when it comes to education,some many schools doesn't have the equipment to train the students which have make a lot of students today to remain ignorant of what they claim to have studied, theory without practice doesn't perfectly give good understanding, and again alot of students nowadays can hardly prove their certificate, due to the poor learning process or certificate forger,so i will prefer skills than certificate.

Of course, there's a disparity here. One of the reasons is that wanting to attend a school with complete equipment is synonymous with expensive prices. Private schools are usually available, but government-run schools rarely offer such facilities; only the top-tier ones are.

Not all communities can afford the additional costs of enrolling their children in prestigious schools, and this also serves as a setback for proving that they can demonstrate their skills when applying for jobs unless they take additional classes after graduating from high school or college.

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October 19, 2025, 12:03:44 PM
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My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
For me, education is definitely important, I won’t downplay that. But looking at how things are now, it’s obvious that skills carry more weight when it comes to employment.

A degree might open the door or make the interview easier, but what truly gets you hired is your ability to deliver results. Personally, if I were the employer, I’d go for skill over just schooling, because at the end of the day, performance matters more than paper.
Skills are important but you can only acquire those skills through education. Most educated people can easily acquire skills in any job and in the initial stages of employment education is valued over skills. Many job seekers are skilled but uneducated they also get jobs but their salaries are much lower than those of educated people.

Just as educated people cannot progress without acquiring skills, skilled people do not get proper evaluation in the workplace without education.
And that is why people should maintain a balance between education and skills and take both seriously, in today's time both are important, if you only acquire one and ignore the other, then that will become your weakness.
So you have to take care of yourself, everyone has to prepare themselves in such a way that they do not have any weakness, and this is very important in acquiring education and skills.
So no one will be successful just by having a degree, and it is difficult to get evaluated just by having hands-on skills, for this reason, be conscious and take both things seriously, a person who can balance these two aspects together, then his success is guaranteed.

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October 19, 2025, 01:40:03 PM
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To start with your first question yes in some ways, this shift could reflect weaknesses in our educational system. Many graduates leave school with theoretical knowledge but lack the practical skills needed in the real world. Employers on the other hand, are under pressure to find people who can deliver results immediately. So, they tend to value what you can actually do rather than just what you know. As for your second question if I were the employer I’d say both education and skills matter but skills would take priority. Education builds a foundation but skills show how effectively you can apply that knowledge. A degree might get someone an interview but it’s their skills mindset, and problem-solving ability that would convince me to hire them.
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October 19, 2025, 03:11:34 PM
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For me, education is definitely important, I won’t downplay that. But looking at how things are now, it’s obvious that skills carry more weight when it comes to employment.

A degree might open the door or make the interview easier, but what truly gets you hired is your ability to deliver results. Personally, if I were the employer, I’d go for skill over just schooling, because at the end of the day, performance matters more than paper.
In the current situation, skills are indeed more valuable than degrees, but I don't deny that degrees do matter. I personally prefer skills. For example, let's say I have a running company and I'm looking for someone to help me with my work. Some people apply for jobs with advanced degrees but lack the necessary skills. Others apply without degrees but possess adequate or even excellent skills. Obviously, between the two, I would prefer the latter, for obvious reasons.

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October 19, 2025, 03:25:33 PM
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For me, education is definitely important, I won’t downplay that. But looking at how things are now, it’s obvious that skills carry more weight when it comes to employment.

A degree might open the door or make the interview easier, but what truly gets you hired is your ability to deliver results. Personally, if I were the employer, I’d go for skill over just schooling, because at the end of the day, performance matters more than paper.
In the current situation, skills are indeed more valuable than degrees, but I don't deny that degrees do matter. I personally prefer skills. For example, let's say I have a running company and I'm looking for someone to help me with my work. Some people apply for jobs with advanced degrees but lack the necessary skills. Others apply without degrees but possess adequate or even excellent skills. Obviously, between the two, I would prefer the latter, for obvious reasons.
You may think so personally, but most employers will prefer your degree first. They will consider job skills as a second choice, and there are even many employers who will offer jobs to people with degrees and give them the opportunity to work with other people so that they can gain experience. If you have skills in the workplace and do not have a degree, then in most cases you will be deprived of the respect you deserve. Your salary may be lower than others and you will be valued less than those with degrees. Most companies give priority to degree holders over skills. There are many companies that give more importance to skills.











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October 20, 2025, 03:58:27 AM
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You may think so personally, but most employers will prefer your degree first. They will consider job skills as a second choice, and there are even many employers who will offer jobs to people with degrees and give them the opportunity to work with other people so that they can gain experience. If you have skills in the workplace and do not have a degree, then in most cases you will be deprived of the respect you deserve. Your salary may be lower than others and you will be valued less than those with degrees. Most companies give priority to degree holders over skills. There are many companies that give more importance to skills.
Yes, that's true. I don't deny that degrees have their own influence. Sometimes having a high degree can make it easier to join a large company, potentially earning a high salary. But in my community, there are quite a few young university graduates with advanced degrees who are still unemployed. Whether it's because the job market is difficult or because they're simply lazy about looking for work, they'll eventually realize they need to find and get a job.
I've never been encouraged to go to university, but I've refused, believing that skills without a degree are better than a degree without any relevant skills.

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My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
For me, education is definitely important, I won’t downplay that. But looking at how things are now, it’s obvious that skills carry more weight when it comes to employment.

A degree might open the door or make the interview easier, but what truly gets you hired is your ability to deliver results. Personally, if I were the employer, I’d go for skill over just schooling, because at the end of the day, performance matters more than paper.
Skills are important but you can only acquire those skills through education. Most educated people can easily acquire skills in any job and in the initial stages of employment education is valued over skills. Many job seekers are skilled but uneducated they also get jobs but their salaries are much lower than those of educated people.

Just as educated people cannot progress without acquiring skills, skilled people do not get proper evaluation in the workplace without education.
And that is why people should maintain a balance between education and skills and take both seriously, in today's time both are important, if you only acquire one and ignore the other, then that will become your weakness.
So you have to take care of yourself, everyone has to prepare themselves in such a way that they do not have any weakness, and this is very important in acquiring education and skills.
So no one will be successful just by having a degree, and it is difficult to get evaluated just by having hands-on skills, for this reason, be conscious and take both things seriously, a person who can balance these two aspects together, then his success is guaranteed.
If I were the employer i would still look at both school and skills but i’d lean more toward skills because at the end of the day what matters to a company is results a degree might show that a person is disciplined and has a solid foundation but skills show that they can actually apply what they know in real situations and that’s what keeps a business running. Education gives structure it teaches you how to think logically and approach problems in an organized way but it doesn’t always prepare you for the real world not everyone with a degree can perform under pressure or adapt when things change fast that’s where skills stand out someone who can handle tools solve problems or communicate effectively will always be valuable.

Still education shouldn’t be ignored because it builds the base for learning new skills faster people who are educated often find it easier to adapt to new roles or technologies because they understand how to learn efficiently meanwhile a person with only skills but no theoretical background might struggle when things shift or when deeper understanding is required. The ideal choice is balance if someone has both education and skills they become unstoppable education gives direction and skills give execution ignoring one for the other creates weakness if you only have education you risk being out of touch with reality and if you only have skills you might hit a ceiling in growth so as an employer i’d go for the person who can show both competence and understanding because that’s the kind of employee who grows with the company not just works for it.

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October 20, 2025, 05:23:38 AM
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You may think so personally, but most employers will prefer your degree first. They will consider job skills as a second choice, and there are even many employers who will offer jobs to people with degrees and give them the opportunity to work with other people so that they can gain experience. If you have skills in the workplace and do not have a degree, then in most cases you will be deprived of the respect you deserve. Your salary may be lower than others and you will be valued less than those with degrees. Most companies give priority to degree holders over skills. There are many companies that give more importance to skills.
Yes, that's true. I don't deny that degrees have their own influence. Sometimes having a high degree can make it easier to join a large company, potentially earning a high salary. But in my community, there are quite a few young university graduates with advanced degrees who are still unemployed. Whether it's because the job market is difficult or because they're simply lazy about looking for work, they'll eventually realize they need to find and get a job.
I've never been encouraged to go to university, but I've refused, believing that skills without a degree are better than a degree without any relevant skills.
In every community, there are educated citizens who are deliberately unemployed due to lack of job opportunities of their choice or due to laziness. In my community, there are many educated people who have degrees but are earning a living by farming and others profession due to lack of convenient jobs. Basically, the job market is difficult, which creates frustration among the educated. There are many skilled citizens who are working at high salaries without having a big degree. I understand your meaning but I also agree with you that there is definitely an assessment of skills without a degree but it must be related to a specific job skill in the job field where the assessment of skills is the highest.











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Yes, that's true. I don't deny that degrees have their own influence. Sometimes having a high degree can make it easier to join a large company, potentially earning a high salary. But in my community, there are quite a few young university graduates with advanced degrees who are still unemployed. Whether it's because the job market is difficult or because they're simply lazy about looking for work, they'll eventually realize they need to find and get a job.
I've never been encouraged to go to university, but I've refused, believing that skills without a degree are better than a degree without any relevant skills.
In some countries, degrees and skills are sometimes not seen as prerequisites for entry into a company. They have their own criteria, namely, the privileges a person possesses, whether from family or from insiders who usually ask for money to get someone to work at a company. At least that's the picture in my country.

However, not all are like that. Some do look at skills and degrees, but the problem is that they have to compete with hundreds or even thousands of other people, which is due to the high unemployment rate. I've seen long lines of applicants at companies.

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To start with your first question yes in some ways, this shift could reflect weaknesses in our educational system. Many graduates leave school with theoretical knowledge but lack the practical skills needed in the real world. Employers on the other hand, are under pressure to find people who can deliver results immediately. So, they tend to value what you can actually do rather than just what you know. As for your second question if I were the employer I’d say both education and skills matter but skills would take priority. Education builds a foundation but skills show how effectively you can apply that knowledge. A degree might get someone an interview but it’s their skills mindset, and problem-solving ability that would convince me to hire them.
The major issue or difference in our development is the lack of practical skills. Its a gap between academic knowledge and practical skills which is digging us in the ground without even our knowledge. In our country most institutions still focus on theory without equipping students with hands on experience which harms them in future when they dont even get a job on the basis of their theory. Education is very important thing but the factor is skills, technical experience and problem solving are also base for the development of an individual. The rise of internet learning and vocational trainings is reducing this gap but only these students are aware of it who have interest in improving their skills. So we have to focus on our skillset instead of just theory.

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In every community, there are educated citizens who are deliberately unemployed due to lack of job opportunities of their choice or due to laziness. In my community, there are many educated people who have degrees but are earning a living by farming and others profession due to lack of convenient jobs. Basically, the job market is difficult, which creates frustration among the educated. There are many skilled citizens who are working at high salaries without having a big degree. I understand your meaning but I also agree with you that there is definitely an assessment of skills without a degree but it must be related to a specific job skill in the job field where the assessment of skills is the highest.
But running your own business is better, because it will naturally develop your skills. We might not know anything at first, but over time, running a business will develop our own knowledge, whether theoretical or practical. Even in my community, if I'm not mistaken, there are people with degrees who earn their living from business or farming, as you mentioned. The scarcity of employment is a reality that's hard to hide, and perhaps even difficult to overcome.

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Both aspects are important in life. It depends on what you wanna be.

If you want to survive in life. Skills are enough. We can learn it through experience. Repetition of something can build up skills but that skill is not that very demanded by the world.

If you want to success in life you need both aspect with balance ratio: skills and education. Educate yourself to learn the right way to create skills. Read books on how they experience to create good skills. This will shorten the time the skill. Create more skills in short of the time period and your life will be easier.
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Both aspects are important in life. It depends on what you wanna be.

If you want to survive in life. Skills are enough. We can learn it through experience. Repetition of something can build up skills but that skill is not that very demanded by the world.

If you want to success in life you need both aspect with balance ratio: skills and education. Educate yourself to learn the right way to create skills. Read books on how they experience to create good skills. This will shorten the time the skill. Create more skills in short of the time period and your life will be easier.
In today's world education and skills are made for each other because education shows the way and skills take us forward on that path. Your thoughts are very practical and meaningful because you said that only skills can survive but if education is added to skills then those skills become success. You cannot survive in life with only education because many of us have seen that people who are more skilled than many educated people are more successful in life whether it is money or wealth or anything. So, in my honest opinion education gives us direction to grow, gives us the power to think what to do in life and skills show us how much we can apply it in our real life. So to get the key to success in life both education and skills have to be used correctly.
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Yes, that's true. I don't deny that degrees have their own influence. Sometimes having a high degree can make it easier to join a large company, potentially earning a high salary. But in my community, there are quite a few young university graduates with advanced degrees who are still unemployed. Whether it's because the job market is difficult or because they're simply lazy about looking for work, they'll eventually realize they need to find and get a job.
I've never been encouraged to go to university, but I've refused, believing that skills without a degree are better than a degree without any relevant skills.

The labor market is too saturated that we have too much number of graduates that are chasing after small available jobs. Do you know how many graduates numbers that we are having every year, there are probably more that has graduated years before and are not having job, when a small job are been pasted then they run along together with the new graduates to chase small jobs. It's a survival of the fittest and sometimes, you need networking to get work in a big company.

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In every community, there are educated citizens who are deliberately unemployed due to lack of job opportunities of their choice or due to laziness. In my community, there are many educated people who have degrees but are earning a living by farming and others profession due to lack of convenient jobs. Basically, the job market is difficult, which creates frustration among the educated. There are many skilled citizens who are working at high salaries without having a big degree. I understand your meaning but I also agree with you that there is definitely an assessment of skills without a degree but it must be related to a specific job skill in the job field where the assessment of skills is the highest.
But running your own business is better, because it will naturally develop your skills. We might not know anything at first, but over time, running a business will develop our own knowledge, whether theoretical or practical. Even in my community, if I'm not mistaken, there are people with degrees who earn their living from business or farming, as you mentioned. The scarcity of employment is a reality that's hard to hide, and perhaps even difficult to overcome.

This is not only in your community. My classmate from University, who has got MBA in finances, now works on a factory, earns with manual labor and hard work. I have many question why he does this, because he could have earned well also by working in a cozy office, instead of working in chilly and dirty place. His situation has nothing to do with unemployment. He could find an office job and work in finances anytime. He has even worked in the office, but quit because he said job was boring.

 
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You may think so personally, but most employers will prefer your degree first. They will consider job skills as a second choice, and there are even many employers who will offer jobs to people with degrees and give them the opportunity to work with other people so that they can gain experience. If you have skills in the workplace and do not have a degree, then in most cases you will be deprived of the respect you deserve. Your salary may be lower than others and you will be valued less than those with degrees. Most companies give priority to degree holders over skills. There are many companies that give more importance to skills.
Yes, that's true. I don't deny that degrees have their own influence. Sometimes having a high degree can make it easier to join a large company, potentially earning a high salary. But in my community, there are quite a few young university graduates with advanced degrees who are still unemployed. Whether it's because the job market is difficult or because they're simply lazy about looking for work, they'll eventually realize they need to find and get a job.
I've never been encouraged to go to university, but I've refused, believing that skills without a degree are better than a degree without any relevant skills.
In every community, there are educated citizens who are deliberately unemployed due to lack of job opportunities of their choice or due to laziness. In my community, there are many educated people who have degrees but are earning a living by farming and others profession due to lack of convenient jobs. Basically, the job market is difficult, which creates frustration among the educated. There are many skilled citizens who are working at high salaries without having a big degree. I understand your meaning but I also agree with you that there is definitely an assessment of skills without a degree but it must be related to a specific job skill in the job field where the assessment of skills is the highest.
We saw many people who got success by taking knowledge in school and now they are rich people in their area and people are successful because they did study well in school and they performed well in college and then they took admission and they performed well in that and now they are rich people of their own family. They are educated people and they know a little more than uneducated people because they have capability to read and learn and they are leaning more about Investment and they are doing investments in many platforms. They are taking risks because they know that risks are important in life and if someone want to be successful then he had to take risk in life .

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This is not only in your community. My classmate from University, who has got MBA in finances, now works on a factory, earns with manual labor and hard work. I have many question why he does this, because he could have earned well also by working in a cozy office, instead of working in chilly and dirty place. His situation has nothing to do with unemployment. He could find an office job and work in finances anytime. He has even worked in the office, but quit because he said job was boring.
I once thought about trying to work in an office like people who work in the city, but I put this off after seeing my friends who work in offices because every day is like that, even though there might be a fairly large income but if I were in that position I don't think I could last long because I pay attention to my own mental health because if it's boring it can make me stressed too. I once worked in a coffee shop but the situation was quiet and it was quite long, from here I felt tired but the tiredness I felt was mental tiredness not physical tiredness so finally I looked for another job that made my body move and I liked the work.

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