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November 10, 2025, 06:27:40 AM
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 before I will give my opinion or suggestion first I will have to consider the economy situation of the country and the people that is surviving the most, here in my country I noticed that those that acquired a nice skill are the ones that is enjoying irrespective of the economy situation of the country. But this is not just anyhow skill but those skills that workers keep looking for them more often for example building of houses, and interior decoration and many more. majority of this people that is into these engineering field are just ordinary degree holders (O'level) so the only thing I know it's important is knowing how to read and write as this is the key to unlock whatever thing we wish to unlock.
The reason why it looks like having formal education is overrated is often due to lack of opportunities, exposure and knowledge. Some people who went to school can also succeed, maybe even more if there were opportunities available for them, if they’re exposed to certain things and if they acquire certain knowledge. Most of the times, when you have knowledge, you really don’t need people to create opportunities for you before you can succeed, they’ll literally use the knowledge they have to create opportunities for themselves and maybe others too.

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November 10, 2025, 03:21:37 PM
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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
It's the failing of our leaders that made our education system failed completely. You will be seeing some graduate here and there in the streets looking for jobs, and even the ones that qualify for the Jobs it will not be given to them, because they reserve those positions for their children that are about to graduate from school.

I will prefer skills than school, because you will continue spending money in note books, text books, school fees and other projects work in the school and at the end you will not get a good Job that will help your family to benefit from what they have spend in your education. You don't need to spend much money on skills before you will start making it from your skill, you can be working with your boss after achieving the skill certificate to gather some money that will help you to establish your own.

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November 10, 2025, 03:38:50 PM
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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
It's the failing of our leaders that made our education system failed completely. You will be seeing some graduate here and there in the streets looking for jobs, and even the ones that qualify for the Jobs it will not be given to them, because they reserve those positions for their children that are about to graduate from school.

I will prefer skills than school, because you will continue spending money in note books, text books, school fees and other projects work in the school and at the end you will not get a good Job that will help your family to benefit from what they have spend in your education. You don't need to spend much money on skills before you will start making it from your skill, you can be working with your boss after achieving the skill certificate to gather some money that will help you to establish your own.


I agree with you government failure has destroyed education system and made people lose faith in it. But I think having good education and degrees will also help us in many different ways, they are not completely useless as you or many people think.

Prioritizing skills can help you get a job and make money easily, but it will be a barrier if you have bigger vision and dreams.
Because if you pay attention, key positions in the company such as chairman, director, department head...are all people with high educational qualifications. It is very rare that a person with only skills and no qualifications is hired or nominated for such positions. So I think education and degrees are still important and necessary. Focusing on skills alone is not enough.

 
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November 10, 2025, 04:59:20 PM
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Prioritizing skills can help you get a job and make money easily, but it will be a barrier if you have bigger vision and dreams.
Because if you pay attention, key positions in the company such as chairman, director, department head...are all people with high educational qualifications. It is very rare that a person with only skills and no qualifications is hired or nominated for such positions. So I think education and degrees are still important and necessary. Focusing on skills alone is not enough.
I don't think top position like chairman, director etc require degrees. Many of them are come from experience, most people with degree can't reach to top positions because they're not good in interpersonal skill and lack of real life experience.

I understand not all people who not have degree are great, but they usually have better experience and resilience.

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November 10, 2025, 06:03:29 PM
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Prioritizing skills can help you get a job and make money easily, but it will be a barrier if you have bigger vision and dreams.
Because if you pay attention, key positions in the company such as chairman, director, department head...are all people with high educational qualifications. It is very rare that a person with only skills and no qualifications is hired or nominated for such positions. So I think education and degrees are still important and necessary. Focusing on skills alone is not enough.
I don't think top position like chairman, director etc require degrees. Many of them are come from experience, most people with degree can't reach to top positions because they're not good in interpersonal skill and lack of real life experience.

I understand not all people who not have degree are great, but they usually have better experience and resilience.

Experience is more valuable than a diploma in many fields. While a diploma or sufficient level of education may be necessary for higher-level positions, this may not be the case in every sector. It's more advantageous to have experience alongside a diploma. It wouldn't be correct to say that experience or education are superior to one another; the priorities given by the business sector may simply differ.

A person's self-improvement and success in a field aren't solely dependent on education or a diploma. Of course, diplomas and education are important, but even more important is how much they develop themselves.

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November 10, 2025, 07:46:15 PM
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Both aspects are important in life. It depends on what you wanna be.

If you want to survive in life. Skills are enough. We can learn it through experience. Repetition of something can build up skills but that skill is not that very demanded by the world.

If you want to success in life you need both aspect with balance ratio: skills and education. Educate yourself to learn the right way to create skills. Read books on how they experience to create good skills. This will shorten the time the skill. Create more skills in short of the time period and your life will be easier.

Experience shows that it's impossible to survive on just one salary these days if you want to provide for your family. A degree and a stable office job aren't enough to cover expenses. And that's unfortunate. Today, everyone is looking for additional ways to earn money, and this is a common occurrence, even in developed countries. Therefore, you need to have the skills and a good education to earn a living.
The economy isn't what it used to be, relying on salary is only going to get you stuck, there are people that end up being in debt even as salary earners and when they get paid they end up using half of what they earn to pay back debts. Having skills is what can help you get financially stable, but don't go for a regular skill, a high paying skill is what is capable of making anyone financially independent.
In the current economic situation, it has become really difficult to survive only depending on salary, it has become difficult to move well unless you make a lot of money, this has become a very common problem in the current world.
Many people get a salary every month but become destitute due to the pressure of debt, because their income is limited but their expenses are constantly increasing, which is why it is wise to create different sources of income instead of depending on just one income.
When someone can turn their skills into a source of income, it becomes easier for them to survive and it is also much easier for them to create a financial position for the future.

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November 10, 2025, 08:19:51 PM
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School and skills are both important and one does not have to replace the other. Going to school gives you educational qualifications and a degree that can help you get a better paying job. Although not everyone gets jobs because cause of their degrees, sometimes it depends on connections and who they know.
On the other hand having a skill is impossible ,your skill can turn into business. That way you cope with or without a certificate. So education and skills are best combined . Because your certificate can help you find a good paying job while your skills can serve as an additional source of income.

I think you have a point right there, both can be useful for a person to create multiple source of income for himself. There is no feeling that beats having multiple sources that are both reliable but it still depends on how stressful and exhausting your job is. Itbwill be very difficult to have a skill and earn from it when you are a banker, they are always too occupied and busy and after work they are too exhausted to do anything.

Making the best out of your skill will depend on the type of job you work. Although I believe having a skill can be more useful than school because of the scarcity of job and the rate of unemployed graduates in my country. Being educated has it's own benefits too but my post is just based on how to earn a living.
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November 10, 2025, 08:25:52 PM
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School and skills are both important and one does not have to replace the other. Going to school gives you educational qualifications and a degree that can help you get a better paying job. Although not everyone gets jobs because cause of their degrees, sometimes it depends on connections and who they know.
On the other hand having a skill is impossible ,your skill can turn into business. That way you cope with or without a certificate. So education and skills are best combined . Because your certificate can help you find a good paying job while your skills can serve as an additional source of income.

I think you have a point right there, both can be useful for a person to create multiple source of income for himself. There is no feeling that beats having multiple sources that are both reliable but it still depends on how stressful and exhausting your job is. Itbwill be very difficult to have a skill and earn from it when you are a banker, they are always too occupied and busy and after work they are too exhausted to do anything.

Making the best out of your skill will depend on the type of job you work. Although I believe having a skill can be more useful than school because of the scarcity of job and the rate of unemployed graduates in my country. Being educated has it's own benefits too but my post is just based on how to earn a living.

One of the biggest problems today, preventing people from focusing on multiple income streams, is that nobody wants to start small and earn little money. But while you earn little money and start small, that little money can help finance other sources of income. I used 3D printers to increase my revenue; it was small, but one source financed another, and in the end, I had several printers... which generated a good monthly income, not enough to live on, but it helped a lot to invest more in other things without having to take money from my monthly salary from my formal job.

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November 10, 2025, 08:26:57 PM
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Nowadays, most jobs require a degree. Because no matter how good a degree someone has, they must prove their skills in the job. When someone does not have a degree in their skills, it means that their skills are not recognized.
And of course, one has to earn a degree with their skills. Therefore, a degree is needed to verify a truly skilled person. Skill cannot be proven with a degree alone. Again, skill without a degree is not considered very valuable. Because the characteristics of both degree and skill are different.
Because when someone goes somewhere for a job, a degree will be proof of their skill that they are really skilled in that job. And you have to prove with skills that your degree is true and you really have that skill.

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One of the biggest problems today, preventing people from focusing on multiple income streams, is that nobody wants to start small and earn little money. But while you earn little money and start small, that little money can help finance other sources of income. I used 3D printers to increase my revenue; it was small, but one source financed another, and in the end, I had several printers... which generated a good monthly income, not enough to live on, but it helped a lot to invest more in other things without having to take money from my monthly salary from my formal job.
Sometimes this kind of condition is quite disturbing which makes not a few of us expect more for additional income but do not realize that situations like this must start from the smallest things because after all, the process is an important part here.

Most of us will underestimate this condition because we are too busy fantasizing about big things but don't want to start from the smallest starting point first, which in the end buries their expectations because the reality is not as easy as imagined.
All things must start from the basics and when we only have a wish to make conditions better and want additional income but want instantaneous then forever it may never happen.

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November 10, 2025, 11:39:51 PM
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I don't think top position like chairman, director etc require degrees. Many of them are come from experience, most people with degree can't reach to top positions because they're not good in interpersonal skill and lack of real life experience.

I understand not all people who not have degree are great, but they usually have better experience and resilience.

This I tend to agree with. These are places of active service which is always requiring of someone with a lot more experience. You don’t get to lead without having some experience on how the job is run. No paper or degree is going to prepare you enough for that, only years of practicing.

A degree is equally important, it sets you up for something real good but, when you have a degree and the experience to back it up, you’ll do just great.

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Choosing between school and skills depends on your goals. School offers structured learning and credentials, while skills provide practical, hands-on experience. Ideally, combine both: use school to build foundational knowledge and skills to apply what you’ve learned. In today’s world, adaptability and continuous learning matter more than ever.
School and Skills have the main part of our life. In school, we acquires basic knowledge Which teaches us ethics and literature. The purpose of going to school is to gain awareness. So that we may understand what is life. If we don't go to school we will not be able to make positive decisions about our lives. While skills help us work and gain experience also We use our skills to meet basic daily needs. In today's world, the need to learn something new and improve oneself has increased more than ever before. In short, school and skills both are basic human needs. To be successful, both things have to grow together. We cannot progress without either one.

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November 11, 2025, 05:18:14 AM
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School and Skills have the main part of our life. In school, we acquires basic knowledge Which teaches us ethics and literature. The purpose of going to school is to gain awareness. So that we may understand what is life. If we don't go to school we will not be able to make positive decisions about our lives. While skills help us work and gain experience also We use our skills to meet basic daily needs. In today's world, the need to learn something new and improve oneself has increased more than ever before. In short, school and skills both are basic human needs. To be successful, both things have to grow together. We cannot progress without either one.

Who says that schooling can always make quick and accurate decisions? Not everyone. Many older people who have become company bosses have strong instincts when it comes to investment decisions, even though they didn't receive any special education.

Many people who have gone to school become ignorant when entering the world of trading, even though they are good at math. Look at their trading skills, but they often lose because they buy wrong token. If they had gone to school, they wouldn't have chosen coins with utility and a strong foundation. It's fun to complain that investing in crypto often results in losses. Skills are the most important thing these days, not just a diploma for job applications.
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We have seen that in the past when education was very low, there were many people who were very skilled and their skills are not comparable. However, it is very important that without education, no skill is valued much nowadays, so the skills that are acquired through school education will always be positive. However, in my opinion, nowadays, those who are educated and have enough skills are valued, but those who are stupid are not valued much, they have skills but they are not in demand in the job field. If you go to any job, you have to have educational qualifications first, besides, you will never get a job. If you have a certificate for education, then you will definitely get a job opportunity in a big company. But no matter how much skill you have against you, if you do not have educational qualifications, then you will be deprived of the job. So nowadays, educational qualifications are valued more, but those who are not educated but have skills are not valued much in jobs, But they can use their skills to enter a good level.

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November 11, 2025, 06:41:01 AM
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Nowadays, most jobs require a degree. Because no matter how good a degree someone has, they must prove their skills in the job. When someone does not have a degree in their skills, it means that their skills are not recognized.
And of course, one has to earn a degree with their skills. Therefore, a degree is needed to verify a truly skilled person. Skill cannot be proven with a degree alone. Again, skill without a degree is not considered very valuable. Because the characteristics of both degree and skill are different.
Because when someone goes somewhere for a job, a degree will be proof of their skill that they are really skilled in that job. And you have to prove with skills that your degree is true and you really have that skill.

Degree isn't the case here. Jobs required job experience, that's number one criteria needed to get any job anywhere. You can have a degree holder and have 5 years experience and another person with degree and master's holder without any job experience. When it comes to job selection, preference is given to the person with experience than a person without any experience and has plenty of certificates because everything such person will know is going to be theoretical.

Some jobs use age as requirement, if you are above a particular age bracket, you will not be given any job by any companies unless you have a connection with those companies or any organization that want to employ you for the job.

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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
If a company places educational qualifications as a primary requirement for a particular position, it indicates a successful education system, This means the company requires legality or proof of a person's knowledge, not just from their educational credentials.
I believe skills are far more important, In fact many companies in my area currently prioritize skills over educational credentials, as skills are proven through experience, whereas education doesn't necessarily provide skills, they only master theory.

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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
If a company places educational qualifications as a primary requirement for a particular position, it indicates a successful education system, This means the company requires legality or proof of a person's knowledge, not just from their educational credentials.
I believe skills are far more important, In fact many companies in my area currently prioritize skills over educational credentials, as skills are proven through experience, whereas education doesn't necessarily provide skills, they only master theory.

If you want to prove your company-based work skills, then of course skills and experience will be most effective. But if you believe in practicing knowledge, then of course, getting education is the most important thing. Because if you do not have educational qualifications, then your knowledge will not increase, remember that no one can acquire knowledge by birth. To acquire knowledge, educational qualifications are definitely necessary, if you want to be sold to the company, then work experience will definitely give you the most priority.

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November 11, 2025, 08:56:30 AM
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One of the biggest problems today, preventing people from focusing on multiple income streams, is that nobody wants to start small and earn little money. But while you earn little money and start small, that little money can help finance other sources of income. I used 3D printers to increase my revenue; it was small, but one source financed another, and in the end, I had several printers... which generated a good monthly income, not enough to live on, but it helped a lot to invest more in other things without having to take money from my monthly salary from my formal job.
Sometimes this kind of condition is quite disturbing which makes not a few of us expect more for additional income but do not realize that situations like this must start from the smallest things because after all, the process is an important part here.

Most of us will underestimate this condition because we are too busy fantasizing about big things but don't want to start from the smallest starting point first, which in the end buries their expectations because the reality is not as easy as imagined.
All things must start from the basics and when we only have a wish to make conditions better and want additional income but want instantaneous then forever it may never happen.
People pass up small things for bigger things they might not even achieve, even though those small things are right in front of us. This creates a situation that keeps people from moving forward, even though they have the opportunity.

There's no shame in taking small steps, because they are steps that can lead to something big. I started small, with a very minimal salary, and probably not many people would want it, but I persisted until I finally landed a more decent job with a higher salary. And all those connections I gained from my previous job.

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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
This change in perspective does not entirely reflect the failure of the education system. Some companies may need someone who has specific skills due to urgent needs or skills in that field are not commonly taught in educational institutions. Education is still important because it helps improve in completing tasks, but skills are more instant because they can be applied directly in the workplace.

If I were a company, I would consider both because what I am looking for is someone who has mastered the knowledge and skills, but if I had to choose, I would consider relevant skills because they can be applied directly in the workplace without having to teach them again.

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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

I wouldn't say it's necessarily a reflection of a failing educational system, certain schools still command prestige that puts a candidate vying for a position at the top of the list regardless of the skillset initially. However, that's just it, the degree would get your foot in the door (to access your socks and the type of shoes you have on) and if the skills you have isn't what is required, your degree wouldn't matter.

You can see this in many creative fields, where the quality of your portfolio gives a better shot than just where you schooled.

As an employer, it'd be wise to access skills more than just a name of where they schooled when sourcing for talent.
In some countries, a degree could be bought, forged even and be used to apply for jobs.

Sure, the school has a certain level of influence in dictating if a candidate would be good for a role. But it boils down to what you require from that role, a Scholar from so so school or someone to put their head down and showcase the skills you need for your project.

The real question is what happens when someone goes to the school and has the skills to boot
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