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November 11, 2025, 10:40:08 AM
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Prioritizing skills can help you get a job and make money easily, but it will be a barrier if you have bigger vision and dreams.
Because if you pay attention, key positions in the company such as chairman, director, department head...are all people with high educational qualifications. It is very rare that a person with only skills and no qualifications is hired or nominated for such positions. So I think education and degrees are still important and necessary. Focusing on skills alone is not enough.
I don't think top position like chairman, director etc require degrees. Many of them are come from experience, most people with degree can't reach to top positions because they're not good in interpersonal skill and lack of real life experience.

I understand not all people who not have degree are great, but they usually have better experience and resilience.

If you have money, talent and can start your own company and become CEO, you don't need a degree. But if you are just an employee and want to advance to senior positions like director. The default standard is always to have a degree and several years of solid work experience. It is very rare that a company and its shareholders will agree to let you lead the company based solely on your skills.

Besides those who founded their own companies like Elon, Mark or Gate. You see later leaders like Timcook, CEO of Apple, or Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft or Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google. Most of them have a bachelor's degree or higher and have many years of experience.

Likewise, I wouldn't be surprised that after Elon and Mark step down as CEOs, the people they choose to replace them will also be people with degrees combined with experience. Even in your country and with small and medium sized companies, I believe that hiring for a managerial or director position will always require a degree.

 
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November 11, 2025, 11:20:56 AM
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What I mean by real education is that the main goal of those of us who are acquiring education should be that we will work for the welfare of the country and the nation after becoming educated. Education is a systematic process that develops the personality, knowledge and moral qualities of an individual. Education guides people on the path of a better and successful life. This is what we mean by education. But in the present time, people's perspective has changed. Now, people are hoping for a certificate by achieving mental goals. Only after getting a certificate can they get a job.
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November 11, 2025, 11:58:30 AM
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What I mean by real education is that the main goal of those of us who are acquiring education should be that we will work for the welfare of the country and the nation after becoming educated. Education is a systematic process that develops the personality, knowledge and moral qualities of an individual. Education guides people on the path of a better and successful life. This is what we mean by education. But in the present time, people's perspective has changed. Now, people are hoping for a certificate by achieving mental goals. Only after getting a certificate can they get a job.

Education is indeed very necessary when we want to get a job that includes an agency, but to achieve prosperity and guide the country we need maximum intelligence and skills and there must be positive from influential people to realize a dream and the welfare of the people, but this is difficult for us to realize because our country no longer cares about the people and they are more concerned with themselves even though all their needs are helped by the people even though they are sent through taxes and other people, so just share it more importantly and we must have influential people who support us.
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November 11, 2025, 01:09:31 PM
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School and Skills have the main part of our life. In school, we acquires basic knowledge Which teaches us ethics and literature. The purpose of going to school is to gain awareness. So that we may understand what is life. If we don't go to school we will not be able to make positive decisions about our lives. While skills help us work and gain experience also We use our skills to meet basic daily needs. In today's world, the need to learn something new and improve oneself has increased more than ever before. In short, school and skills both are basic human needs. To be successful, both things have to grow together. We cannot progress without either one.
School and skills are quite significant discussions, but they are key elements in everyday life, and each has its own value.
School teaches us how to understand the basics and use them when we need to, and that's what school is all about. While we might be embarrassed to showcase our talents, our talents might be readily imitated. Why do I say that? It's just that sometimes people want to succeed but are embarrassed by the idea of ​​learning, especially when learning at an older age; there's bound to be some embarrassment.
So, with our skills, some people might want to emulate what we've implemented. Sometimes, successful people can be the result of learning from our own talents, and they don't necessarily need special training.
This indicates that education and skills must always be balanced to achieve success in any form.

There are results from the learning process, but the difference is that the knowledge we've acquired while still in the learning process will be displayed everywhere. If we have a skill, we need to implement it in front of people who don't yet understand what we have. This will allow them to see, hear, and learn from what we convey. This is called learning. What we need to convey is that education and skills are both needed by all groups.

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November 11, 2025, 04:29:52 PM
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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
If a company places educational qualifications as a primary requirement for a particular position, it indicates a successful education system, This means the company requires legality or proof of a person's knowledge, not just from their educational credentials.
I believe skills are far more important, In fact many companies in my area currently prioritize skills over educational credentials, as skills are proven through experience, whereas education doesn't necessarily provide skills, they only master theory.

If you want to prove your company-based work skills, then of course skills and experience will be most effective. But if you believe in practicing knowledge, then of course, getting education is the most important thing. Because if you do not have educational qualifications, then your knowledge will not increase, remember that no one can acquire knowledge by birth. To acquire knowledge, educational qualifications are definitely necessary, if you want to be sold to the company, then work experience will definitely give you the most priority.

Those who are very good in both aspects, in addition to educational qualifications and practical experience, they will get the highest priority in each field. Therefore, you should not focus on only one subject and completely abandon the other, but rather try to achieve both well by maintaining a balance between the two subjects, then you will be at the top of everyone's list in all fields.

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November 12, 2025, 06:22:49 AM
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What I mean by real education is that the main goal of those of us who are acquiring education should be that we will work for the welfare of the country and the nation after becoming educated. Education is a systematic process that develops the personality, knowledge and moral qualities of an individual. Education guides people on the path of a better and successful life. This is what we mean by education. But in the present time, people's perspective has changed. Now, people are hoping for a certificate by achieving mental goals. Only after getting a certificate can they get a job.
There's no guarantee that after earning a diploma, we'll find a job that aligns with our major. Job vacancies are a problem that often goes unaddressed. Many people are unemployed because they can't find work. While some are reluctant to work, I'm sure many others find decent jobs difficult to find. Even in emergencies, they'll work even if it's not their dream.
Furthermore, there are some people who dropped out of school and don't have a proper diploma, yet they manage to succeed or earn a steady income. From this, I conclude that skills play a significant role in securing a secure life. Simply having an education, degree, or certificate is a false hope.

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November 12, 2025, 07:21:14 AM
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What I mean by real education is that the main goal of those of us who are acquiring education should be that we will work for the welfare of the country and the nation after becoming educated. Education is a systematic process that develops the personality, knowledge and moral qualities of an individual. Education guides people on the path of a better and successful life. This is what we mean by education. But in the present time, people's perspective has changed. Now, people are hoping for a certificate by achieving mental goals. Only after getting a certificate can they get a job.
There's no guarantee that after earning a diploma, we'll find a job that aligns with our major. Job vacancies are a problem that often goes unaddressed. Many people are unemployed because they can't find work. While some are reluctant to work, I'm sure many others find decent jobs difficult to find. Even in emergencies, they'll work even if it's not their dream.
Furthermore, there are some people who dropped out of school and don't have a proper diploma, yet they manage to succeed or earn a steady income. From this, I conclude that skills play a significant role in securing a secure life. Simply having an education, degree, or certificate is a false hope.

The mindset of many people here in our country is often shaped by the belief of some parents that if their children finish their education, they will be able to achieve their dreams in life.
On the other hand, there are parents who consider their child completing their education as the fulfillment of their own dream.

For me, educating children is an obligation, and having a degree is just an achievement that we can be proud of, but it can help in pursuing our dreams if used correctly.
However, it doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get a job, and of course, it’s not that simple.

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November 12, 2025, 08:30:33 AM
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Nowadays, most jobs require a degree. Because no matter how good a degree someone has, they must prove their skills in the job. When someone does not have a degree in their skills, it means that their skills are not recognized.
And of course, one has to earn a degree with their skills. Therefore, a degree is needed to verify a truly skilled person. Skill cannot be proven with a degree alone. Again, skill without a degree is not considered very valuable. Because the characteristics of both degree and skill are different.
Because when someone goes somewhere for a job, a degree will be proof of their skill that they are really skilled in that job. And you have to prove with skills that your degree is true and you really have that skill.

Degree isn't the case here. Jobs required job experience, that's number one criteria needed to get any job anywhere. You can have a degree holder and have 5 years experience and another person with degree and master's holder without any job experience. When it comes to job selection, preference is given to the person with experience than a person without any experience and has plenty of certificates because everything such person will know is going to be theoretical.

Some jobs use age as requirement, if you are above a particular age bracket, you will not be given any job by any companies unless you have a connection with those companies or any organization that want to employ you for the job.
Yes, that's almost always what happens, sometimes experienced candidates can usually contribute straight away without much training, reducing costs and time for the company. That is why fresh graduates must prepare themselves thoroughly when the selection process takes place, not only by showing their degrees but also by balancing it with the knowledge or skills they acquired while studying at their school. to close the gap, or this possibility and can increase the chances of being accepted, opportunities will always be there if we have good abilities.

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We are in an era where skills matters most than education Any person can learn anything he wants with the vast information that are being uploaded over the internet, anyone can learn but skills takes a lot of practice patient and mistakes.
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The mindset of many people here in our country is often shaped by the belief of some parents that if their children finish their education, they will be able to achieve their dreams in life.
On the other hand, there are parents who consider their child completing their education as the fulfillment of their own dream.

For me, educating children is an obligation, and having a degree is just an achievement that we can be proud of, but it can help in pursuing our dreams if used correctly.
However, it doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get a job, and of course, it’s not that simple.
It must be acknowledged that education is crucial, but ultimately, classroom education alone is not sufficient to navigate the world of work. Non-formal education is also crucial for sharpening mindsets and enhancing skills. All parents naturally want their children to succeed and advance, but they shouldn't force their will and impose pressure on them, which could lead to them losing their sense of direction and purpose.

The world is now evolving at a rapid pace, requiring a thorough grasp of technology. Sometimes, companies don't require a higher education diploma but rather prioritize job satisfaction and guaranteed health, with the exception of certain occupations that rely on professional qualifications. Essentially, the mindset of parents who began their lives in the past must radically change and adapt to the present so that the lives of their children and their families can continue to develop and progress.

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November 13, 2025, 01:23:37 PM
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What I mean by real education is that the main goal of those of us who are acquiring education should be that we will work for the welfare of the country and the nation after becoming educated. Education is a systematic process that develops the personality, knowledge and moral qualities of an individual. Education guides people on the path of a better and successful life. This is what we mean by education. But in the present time, people's perspective has changed. Now, people are hoping for a certificate by achieving mental goals. Only after getting a certificate can they get a job.

Education is indeed very necessary when we want to get a job that includes an agency, but to achieve prosperity and guide the country we need maximum intelligence and skills and there must be positive from influential people to realize a dream and the welfare of the people, but this is difficult for us to realize because our country no longer cares about the people and they are more concerned with themselves even though all their needs are helped by the people even though they are sent through taxes and other people, so just share it more importantly and we must have influential people who support us.

In today's modern era, where free market competition opens up opportunities for various industries in need of workers, schools provide opportunities for top graduates who want to recruit them as part of their teams. However, regardless of whether education or skills are important, if a country's foundation is built on corruption and nepotism, family networks or support systems will be more beneficial. No matter how good a school is, there's no place in that company because they recruit those closest to them. Similarly, our skills are useless without opportunities. In corrupt countries, this practice is common. However, I tend to believe that education is more important.

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November 13, 2025, 02:56:44 PM
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The mindset of many people here in our country is often shaped by the belief of some parents that if their children finish their education, they will be able to achieve their dreams in life.
On the other hand, there are parents who consider their child completing their education as the fulfillment of their own dream.

For me, educating children is an obligation, and having a degree is just an achievement that we can be proud of, but it can help in pursuing our dreams if used correctly.
However, it doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get a job, and of course, it’s not that simple.
school is important for basic knowledge foundation, but it's doesn't determine the success of an individual but with skill it's on a whole different leave development of the mind is based on practicality.
Parents were made to believe that school way the only way, it's TRUE as that was the major criteria for employment and status then, it is true because then there wasn't much of skill acquisition centers, due to the underdevelopment in the world


It must be acknowledged that education is crucial, but ultimately, classroom education alone is not sufficient to navigate the world of work. Non-formal education is also crucial for sharpening mindsets and enhancing skills. All parents naturally want their children to succeed and advance, but they shouldn't force their will and impose pressure on them, which could lead to them losing their sense of direction and purpose.

The world is now evolving at a rapid pace, requiring a thorough grasp of technology. Sometimes, companies don't require a higher education diploma but rather prioritize job satisfaction and guaranteed health, with the exception of certain occupations that rely on professional qualifications. Essentially, the mindset of parents who began their lives in the past must radically change and adapt to the present so that the lives of their children and their families can continue to develop and progress.
I'm fully in support of your idea and thoughts, now talking about formal and informal education, i would like to say that informal education is a form of skill acquisition, more so it is a skill, while the formal one is school
Differences between school and skill,
1. In school the education given is mostly theoretical and can hardly or never be used in reality
But skill involves practical development and this helps one with real life experience as most school hardly do practicals
2. School tends to force students into following same sequence and patterns used long ago, and this doesn't allow them think outside the box, and as such they are trapped with same knowledge as those who are already in that line or work. Thereby limiting job opportunities for them. While skills helps broaden the knowledge of the of the student as he or she is taught based on development, and evolution of the society, and are also allowed to create new thing, think wildly etcetera
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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
It's the failing of our leaders that made our education system failed completely. You will be seeing some graduate here and there in the streets looking for jobs, and even the ones that qualify for the Jobs it will not be given to them, because they reserve those positions for their children that are about to graduate from school.

I will prefer skills than school, because you will continue spending money in note books, text books, school fees and other projects work in the school and at the end you will not get a good Job that will help your family to benefit from what they have spend in your education. You don't need to spend much money on skills before you will start making it from your skill, you can be working with your boss after achieving the skill certificate to gather some money that will help you to establish your own.
It is not really a failure of the school system, even as schools in some countries need rejuvenation. What is going on in the world is due to the need available of which school could solve it all devising a mean through skill make it faster and affordable even. Although there are some skills that still requires school certification (degree, diploma etc).

As an employer of labor, the job has already spoken for itself. The job requirements demands the skills required. When the need is more skill oriented then that's all about it. So the job decides not the employer.

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In today's modern era, where free market competition opens up opportunities for various industries in need of workers, schools provide opportunities for top graduates who want to recruit them as part of their teams. However, regardless of whether education or skills are important, if a country's foundation is built on corruption and nepotism, family networks or support systems will be more beneficial. No matter how good a school is, there's no place in that company because they recruit those closest to them. Similarly, our skills are useless without opportunities. In corrupt countries, this practice is common. However, I tend to believe that education is more important.
This is the current reality many government agencies and companies recruit employees only through close contacts or internal networks. This has led many to argue that education is not so important as relying on it alone is insufficient in a country built on corruption and nepotism.

Education and skills are both crucial for life today, enabling growth and a bright future. However this doesn't mean that without an education you won't be successful you can be successful as long as you have the skills. With skills, you can earn your own income in today's digital age. Education should remain paramount as it provides you with the potential to build networks, develop insights, and develop a better character.

 
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Those who are very good in both aspects, in addition to educational qualifications and practical experience, they will get the highest priority in each field. Therefore, you should not focus on only one subject and completely abandon the other, but rather try to achieve both well by maintaining a balance between the two subjects, then you will be at the top of everyone's list in all fields.
Balancing the two things together is very difficult. When you are going to acquire an educational qualification, the time spent on academic life and studies cannot be said to be spent on acquiring skills. On the other hand, when you spend time on acquiring skills, your attention will be lost on studies and you will not study well, which will hamper your results. If you can acquire both educational qualifications and practical experience, then it is good but it is not possible to acquire both at the same time. Again, if someone starts working to acquire skills after acquiring educational qualifications, then it will be too late. However, among the two, educational qualifications should be given more priority because with education, it is possible to do something good.

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The mindset of many people here in our country is often shaped by the belief of some parents that if their children finish their education, they will be able to achieve their dreams in life.
On the other hand, there are parents who consider their child completing their education as the fulfillment of their own dream.

For me, educating children is an obligation, and having a degree is just an achievement that we can be proud of, but it can help in pursuing our dreams if used correctly.
However, it doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get a job, and of course, it’s not that simple.
Yes, when we have successfully earned a degree through the effort put into it, it certainly won't immediately get us a job because we still have to work harder to get a job that might match our degree. Furthermore, nowadays, degrees have become something that can be bought. In my country, some people buy degrees to get an extra name after them. Sometimes in my environment, people who already have degrees are more respected, for some reason, but that's the reality.
Comparing degrees and school, I think school is more important, so their children should go to school, and a degree isn't mandatory. Because I think there are also successful people without degrees.

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Balancing the two things together is very difficult. When you are going to acquire an educational qualification, the time spent on academic life and studies cannot be said to be spent on acquiring skills. On the other hand, when you spend time on acquiring skills, your attention will be lost on studies and you will not study well, which will hamper your results. If you can acquire both educational qualifications and practical experience, then it is good but it is not possible to acquire both at the same time. Again, if someone starts working to acquire skills after acquiring educational qualifications, then it will be too late. However, among the two, educational qualifications should be given more priority because with education, it is possible to do something good.
Indeed difficult you must balance both thing between skill and school, many top company qualifying for working right now beside you have higher level education degree you must balance with your skill. I don't think any top company right now priority with skill only if you lack education degree but the same position if you have master degree but lack with skill you will eliminate by the other participants.
Indeed late for some one have higher level education degree they must balance with skill if won't loss opportunity working based on their education degree,
if want prefer skill only I think we must build up our self business because all company right now have requirement for the worker must pass specific education degree.

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By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?
Majority of many countries are beginning to hate education and tend to skill due to their patterns of teaching in different countries school is rubbish that is why some people we graduate and still don't know what they graduate with even in field of your study many graduates don't know anything,so in this they will go and hire a skill personal to do the work on their behalf now the company will think they are the one that work it ,this is my concern,now those that are skill they hardly get this kind of well paid jobs because they are not educated...

Because many companies need someone who is educated but they don't know that many of them are fools they don't actually knows what they go to school to do,now a concern job is presented to do they will rush to hire someone on the street to do the work and they will pay them,this just the problem we have in our society,to me it's better the government should look into this matter very well.
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November 15, 2025, 09:51:11 AM
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Those who are very good in both aspects, in addition to educational qualifications and practical experience, they will get the highest priority in each field. Therefore, you should not focus on only one subject and completely abandon the other, but rather try to achieve both well by maintaining a balance between the two subjects, then you will be at the top of everyone's list in all fields.
Balancing the two things together is very difficult. When you are going to acquire an educational qualification, the time spent on academic life and studies cannot be said to be spent on acquiring skills. On the other hand, when you spend time on acquiring skills, your attention will be lost on studies and you will not study well, which will hamper your results. If you can acquire both educational qualifications and practical experience, then it is good but it is not possible to acquire both at the same time. Again, if someone starts working to acquire skills after acquiring educational qualifications, then it will be too late. However, among the two, educational qualifications should be given more priority because with education, it is possible to do something good.

Since the two subjects are very different, if you do one, the other will be lost, so in that case, it definitely takes time to achieve both. However, if you want to acquire skills, then your studies will be damaged and if you study, it will be difficult to acquire skills. In that case, I think you have to focus on your studies first and when you finish your studies, you can give time to acquire skills. But we know that it is not possible to acquire educational qualifications and skills at the same time, so we need time. Moreover, only having skills will not be useful everywhere, but educational qualifications are also needed. So in the beginning, I think acquiring educational qualifications is the most important and later it will be easy to acquire skills and if you have educational qualifications and skills, you will be valued everywhere.

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November 15, 2025, 05:37:59 PM
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Why not the both of them. Schools is really that important trust me but it has failed a lot of students and graduates  I mean the system failed but with the both of them together. The school system failing you do not mean you should deceive the next set of generations about schools. There's a great deal to be gotten from school, but if you don't like your situation and want to level up, then it is time to merge both school and skills together. Many perspectives on this particular topic.

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