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March 11, 2025, 11:44:30 AM
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Then you'll see his supporters make excuses for all these things. They will tell you how he doesn't mean those things and how were misunderstand him. A president of a country doesn't have the luxury of saying things he doesn't mean in public, talk more of the president of the United States.

He talked about diplomacy when he was talking to President Zielinsky but this is a man that is making the United States an enemy to all her allies. Canada and other EU countries that are allies are treated as though they're less and they will react to that in the same way the US treated them. You have China making public statements that they're ready for any kind of war the US brings. So much for diplomacy.

I don't think the US would lose world power status. That is an exaggeration. Everybody in important positions in the US isn't like Trump. The fact that he's president doesn't mean he can make any decision he wants, the judiciary won't let that happen. 


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March 11, 2025, 12:35:05 PM
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I think deep inside of Trump he is only trying to make America great again in a way that the authority of the US as a world power house can be felt even without it being too loud. But with the approach he Trump is going on with it is what a lot of people are up against and wondering if really his actions are helpful and actually working in the best interest of the US. But if you ask me, I see Trump as one man that has America at heart and doesn't go into deals that won't favour America first and that's why he had to make some of the few difficult decisions and policies that has made some of these questions as we have in the OP arising.
Someone that wants to make America greater that talked anyone about Obama and Biden as if they were not good leaders. Can you see what he is using. I mean 'make American great again'. Not make America greater or something. Those people's time were better. Those people respected their allies. Stocks has been crashing since 7 days now. Cryptocurrencies also suffered. On the news, they called Trump coward.
I am no American but am pretty sure that there are Americans right now who very much love what this man called Donald Trump is currently doing as President of America as much as there are those who don't. Not everyone will love the leader they have and sometimes leaders just gat to make certain difficult decisions which in the very beginning may not prompt positive outcomes but on the long run people start seeing light at the end of the tunnel.

Even the Biden and Obama's administration there were people who still criticized what they were doing at their time and it's not surprising Trump would be getting same criticism from some quarters too. We can't say the too former leaders time were better than his not until he finishes his tenure and we get to judge him by that. Trump is not even up to six months on seat so we can't be sure whose time was better or best.

Volatility! Stocks and cryptocurrency crashing isn't the first time bruh. Maybe you would have said same when the market went up the moon to a new ATH when the same Trump won the election. But I hearing was "the Trump effect" instead.

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March 11, 2025, 12:44:28 PM
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Trump could be the start to the reason US may lose the world power.


I love Trump because I hope this happens under his tenure  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy. I am sick of the world being dependent on the United States and Europe, a unipolar world and those leaders doing whatever they want and what they think is right without regard for others. So if Trump can make the United States and the dollar lose its power, we will have a multipolar world with more choices and a fairer world. Isn't that better?

Why do people always say we love freedom, justice, peace...but worry about dictator losing power, a unipolar world controlled by one power?

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March 11, 2025, 12:44:49 PM
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Volatility! Stocks and cryptocurrency crashing isn't the first time bruh. Maybe you would have said same when the market went up the moon to a new ATH when the same Trump won the election. But I hearing was "the Trump effect" instead.
If there is no Trump, the price of bitcoin will still increase. Bitcoin should not be gambling as it increased during Trump election and fall back from $109900 or so below $77000. But the price is increasing now though. The OP is not even about just the price of bitcoin. It is generally about what Trump is doing wrong in what he is doing as he is distancing US from allies and having this proud nature in his import tariff or trade war.

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March 11, 2025, 12:50:47 PM
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US dollar may become less useful.

All we have seen about Trump is to blame other countries but he has forgotten what US is. Trump could be the start to the reason US may lose the world power.

Trump is blinded by his ideology of America first, and he is reshaping the principle of American democracy by doing the opposite of what the US represents; he is betraying his longtime allies and allying with countries that used to be in conflict with US interests.
Two things that will probably happen if Trump continues with his own policy: he will be impeached or the US economy will lose in this tariff war, and yes, I agree the US could eventually lose its status as a superpower all because of Trump's behavior towards his allies.
Of course we admire him for making the market get to where it is now, and The world is watching how things will end up with Trump's new foreign policies.

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March 11, 2025, 01:48:27 PM
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Volatility! Stocks and cryptocurrency crashing isn't the first time bruh. Maybe you would have said same when the market went up the moon to a new ATH when the same Trump won the election. But I hearing was "the Trump effect" instead.
If there is no Trump, the price of bitcoin will still increase. Bitcoin should not be gambling as it increased during Trump election and fall back from $109900 or so below $77000. But the price is increasing now though. The OP is not even about just the price of bitcoin. It is generally about what Trump is doing wrong in what he is doing as he is distancing US from allies and having this proud nature in his import tariff or trade war.
But that's exactly what a some persons on this space are making it look like, as though Trump can now influence the price of bitcoin at will by what he says or does, and I think much of these is not unconnected to his infamous bitcoin reserve plan for the US. The Op perhaps might not be basically about bitcoin but it does has a glimpse.
Maybe some of us seem not to know but Trump understands that the US is standing on higher grounds in every ramifications possible than any other country it having an alliance with. Us tend to be a major financial sponsors to some of these allies and probably be reasons why Trump is cutting off from some which rather rip off from the US instead. We don't know yet exactly where this could lead but let watch.

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March 11, 2025, 05:07:49 PM
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Although I am not American (as of citizen of the USA) plus I didn't like quite a few things about Trump even before he was elected and even now I certainly prefer him to the alternative. Selling the victim mentality, impoverishing the population, setting them on a path to total control... I could make a very long list here of why the alternative was even worse.

Trump banning CBDCs is a much bigger event than many of you even realize. Now when they shove them up our asses in Europe let's see if people wise up, but it seems to me that most will continue to act like sheeple.


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Trump has a point. The US has protected Europe for free under NATO for decades. The Europe became incredibly rich because they didn’t pay for their fair share in NATO. They don’t have an army to feed as well. That made European nations the most wealthy nations in the world while the US national debt is breaking records. This is not sustainable. Europe will either pay for NATO, or they’ll have to take care of themselves from now on. The free ride is over.

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He said he wants to buy Denmark.

He called Canada Prime Minister governor and called Canada 51st state. You know America has 50 states.

He is not in support of Ukraine. Saying Ukraine president can cause world war 3.

Canada now saying it is too late that they may prefer imports from Mexico and European countries.

You can see clearly that Trump is distancing US from EU.

How he wants US to first take over Gaza is not supported by countries. The countries prefer what Egypt proposed and against ethnic cleansing.

Watch this CNN video: https://youtu.be/l_w-H7x4FwA?si=HvGiW9TpJAIPopqr

The video is about how US may lose the world power which China and Russia wanted. If Trump is letting the world know that the relevant role US is playing us not longer need, what people have been saying is possible which I think may not be possible is like it will become possible.

US dollar may become less useful.

All we have seen about Trump is to blame other countries but he has forgotten what US is. Trump could be the start to the reason US may lose the world power.

All these ridiculous things that you have mentioned are actually distractions. They grab the headlines and confuse everyone to what is really happening. Meanwhile he is signing executive orders that are demolishing the institutions that form the foundations of America, he is not going in with a scalpel to optimize efficiency, he is going in with a sledgehammer to destroy anyone that can stand against him in future. We have already seen all the current republicans that exist in the house and congress are weak yes men, who only got there by blindly supporting him, with few exceptions. His strategy is going to make America so much weaker - he is an old man with not long left, so doesn't really care what happens in a couple decades time.

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The video is about how US may lose the world power which China and Russia wanted. If Trump is letting the world know that the relevant role US is playing us not longer need, what people have been saying is possible which I think may not be possible is like it will become possible.

US dollar may become less useful.

All we have seen about Trump is to blame other countries but he has forgotten what US is. Trump could be the start to the reason US may lose the world power.
What do you think made America this great? Do you think it is the allies they have or by the import and export trading they do with big countries, or by the loan they offer to countries who will be willing to be in debt to the US? None of the above i must say.

The US became the world power because of the decision they make and the action they can take after making that decision. Another country similar to the US with this character is Russia.

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The US has protected Europe for free under NATO for decades

This is extremely inaccurate but if someone agrees (and will vote etc.) then I guess Trump can say it.  He is not a bastion of truth and accuracy, he says alot of things and if making bold later to be corrected statements was a great problem he never would have won either term on any grounds.   Trump saying stuff is not a point to argue over, he isnt going to stop no point criticizing that aspect.


My view of Trump is he is necessary.   Either you think he will mess up so bad, nobody will ever try this nonsense again or he will upset this mess of what does not currently work and do some possible good if only by accident.

 Trump is relatively brief in tenure, he is gone pretty fast is my take.  If the Republicans lose the house they are lame ducks in just a couple years from what I understand.  1 angry man saying rude things is not a reason for people to declare we are doomed, much more then that must be wrong if that could be said to be true.

If the other nations and governments are so superior to Trump they can wait, not that long he'll be out of power and probably they will be dealing with the Democratic party again.  If you think he will fail, prepare for that next government.  In macro economics a few years is a blink of an eye.

 
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The US became the world power because of the decision they make and the action they can take after making that decision. Another country similar to the US with this character is Russia.
You are not correct about this. The United States is not doing better than China in economy and also Russia in military. But they are the world power because countries in the world made them to be it. If many countries that are supporting United States becomes an enemy today, United States will lose his influence and the world power.

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The US became the world power because of the decision they make and the action they can take after making that decision. Another country similar to the US with this character is Russia.
You are not correct about this. The United States is not doing better than China in economy and also Russia in military. But they are the world power because countries in the world made them to be it. If many countries that are supporting United States becomes an enemy today, United States will lose his influence and the world power.
Chinese economy outperformed the US last year, but the latter still maintains its position as the biggest economy in the world. The US GDP for 2024 ($29.2 trillion) is higher than China ($18.9 trillion). Russia surprised the world with its sound economic policies that made it survive the sanctions placed on it due to the invasion of Ukraine. Many economists predicted that the Russian economy would not survive for a long time. However, I don't think the Russian economy is performing better than the US because it has been under severe sanctions.

Donald Trump claims that other countries are depending on and cheating the US in global trade. Thus, his assumption is the US is making other countries rich and not the other way around.

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Chinese economy outperformed the US last year, but the latter still maintains its position as the biggest economy in the world. The US GDP for 2024 ($29.2 trillion) is higher than China ($18.9 trillion). Russia surprised the world with its sound economic policies that made it survive the sanctions placed on it due to the invasion of Ukraine. Many economists predicted that the Russian economy would not survive for a long time. However, I don't think the Russian economy is performing better than the US because it has been under severe sanctions.
You are right if it is in nominal estimate. United States has the highest GDP in the world. But if it is about purchasing power (PPP), China is the highest in the world.

This is their comparison:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

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Trump believes that the business mentality will always work in politics and governance of a great country like the US, but he is wrong, that may be the downfall of the US if care is not taken. The world is watching and the US has never faced so much ridicule and embarrassment as this Trump's second term. I wonder what the US voters think about making such a man their number one citizen. The US is losing allies and supporters, I wonder how it will survive in a World War alone. I pray there is no World War III.

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This kind of approach is only effective as long as the U.S. holds its position as the dominant global power, leaving other nations with little alternative but to comply. However, with China steadily emerging as a strong rival, America’s grip on influence may not be as strong as it once was.
Yes, China is America's greatest threat to technology and economical advancement currently and while Trump still thinks that America is still dominant and their involvement and non-involvement can make lots of differences to the world economy, China is busy advancing and slowly reclaiming that dominance from US, especially in respect of technology.

Canada now prefers exports to Mexico and others than US, I don't know what he intended to achieve with this his extreme measures, but he better achieve it fast and positively before China and Russia displaces the US as world power.

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March 12, 2025, 08:28:26 PM
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Trump could be the start to the reason US may lose the world power.


I love Trump because I hope this happens under his tenure  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy. I am sick of the world being dependent on the United States and Europe, a unipolar world and those leaders doing whatever they want and what they think is right without regard for others. So if Trump can make the United States and the dollar lose its power, we will have a multipolar world with more choices and a fairer world. Isn't that better?

Why do people always say we love freedom, justice, peace...but worry about dictator losing power, a unipolar world controlled by one power?

“I am sick of the world being dependent on the United States and Europe, a unipolar world and those leaders doing whatever they want and what they think is right without regard for others.” - please explain:
1. How is the world being dependent on the United States and Europe ? Do they give food, medicine, education, support the disabled and pensioners?
Don't talk about the dollar Smiley
2. Please give me an example of countries that do not do everything they want and do not consider their actions to be correct, and of course, before doing something - coordinate with all others ? Smiley


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Trump is putting Americans first. His ratings and approvals have increase among the Americans.

Compared with Joe Biden, he is more loved by the American people.

In terms of his economic policies, it is too early to conclude if they will pull the US away from the EU or not. He has just been there barely six months. His performance ratings can start to come in at about that time.

The US Dollar will continue to be useful for a long time to come.

By the way, whatever happened to BRICS. Nothing has been heard of their plans since Trump became the president.

That's right,the BRICS have been silenced for a while,they'll be definitely working on how to emerge soon to Donald Trump's face and jurisdiction fiercely and unexpected.Maybe they're working on themselves to improve and expand in areas that could gain them more attractions and focus that'll increase their global influence.We're not really certain why the BRICS have been quiet but we'll definitely watch how it unfolds.😁

The BRICS won’t have anything to say now, they will just be watching to see how things unfold. When they rush into saying anything in this regards, it may affect the intensity they want to have on what they’re building to have more power in the global scale and outcast the US dollar. Being quiet is the best thing for them now, I know they’ll react to all this but they’re taking their time in order not to regret jumping into conclusions in the soonest when they still have ample of time to analyse and decide.

 
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The BRICS won’t have anything to say now, they will just be watching to see how things unfold. When they rush into saying anything in this regards, it may affect the intensity they want to have on what they’re building to have more power in the global scale and outcast the US dollar. Being quiet is the best thing for them now, I know they’ll react to all this but they’re taking their time in order not to regret jumping into conclusions in the soonest when they still have ample of time to analyse and decide.
I have another reason which I have thought about on why they are silent.
Some of the countries are dependent on the US for aids. And if they speak carelessly the already cut aid could be further cut that is their sanctions.
South-Africa is on the BRICS member and as at this week, the US cut aids to them. There was a video of the president of South-Africa saying some things that were not nice about the US.

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March 13, 2025, 09:41:13 AM
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yeah I also see his move as rather impulsive as well, I think he needs to rethink twice about his decision sanctioning every country he sees even the allied ones with tariff.
but regardless we don't know what data that trump has been having for him to make such decision so even now we're just speculating here.

but I think right now trump is trying to make the US get more wealthier by cutting sector that's deemed to be inefficient but ultimately this will also bring another sets of problems as well.
as the world has been too dependent on the US and now suddenly US want to pull the plug and this sparks controversy.

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