Boycott to TESLA cars - people defending agains billionaire's greed

[franky1]

I can see your money is not where your mouth is. Tesla is a company that suffers big swings, the question is why. There are normal market swings related to regulations, inflation, rates and in the case of Tesla a perpetual doubt about them actually being able to meet the production targets in time with the right quality.

However this time is not about that, this time is about people in front of the dealers saying no to the standard of Techno Fascism that Elon has become. And to be honest, many of the people who buy an electric vehicle do believe in climate change, do not see "baby drill" as a positive change and may simply walk away from Tesla.

Feel free to deny, but keep your portfolio clear of Tesla, just like it is now

That is another thing I don't get from the political and commercial alliance Trump has with Elon, though. Recently, Trump appeared advertising Teslas by pretending to buy one directly from Elon. But was not Trump against electric cars and was all about drilling oil to keep the country energy independent?
The average Trump vote is being told two things which seems to completely contradict one another: drill drill drill and electric cars are good (because of the reality of climate change).
Still, those who believe climate change is a reality are democrats or liberals who are going to continue to boycott Tesla in favor or other companies whose CEOs are not blatantly in the bed with Trump for the sake of money and power...
Obviously, Musk will try to make other brands of electric cars as expensive as possible for the general public.

trump also took away the carbon credits. so yep elon is not getting that pot of money from trump.. so funny the dems are crying that elon is money grabbing from trumps government..
oh and elon selling fleets of tesla was mostly to STATE government employee's, so is a state thing not a fed thing, plus was a biden era thing for the fed employee car programs
oh and biden gave out hundreds of millions of fed money to build unbranded gov owned charging stations....... that never got built. yep elon didnt get that money either, but where did it go.. no one knows

anyway

i think trumps stance is that tree's exist and tree's love carbon, but no one can name a material that digests lithium into something useful and non toxic once the car batteries go to landfill. so which is a more of a toxin to the environment.
too much money went into "climate change" but we all know tree's grow by themselves, tree's dont get paid per photosynthesis, and the carbon/climate money didnt all go to planting more trees

as for drill drill drill
trump wants choice. fossil AND EV
also to note oil is always going to be needed for many things, no matter what anyone says. so trump wants to make sure his oil supply is self sustainable from his own sources instead of relying on international affairs and other countries rates/deals.

i know some people are also anti-plastic. so lets clarify this too. when oil is refined into fuel, there is a toxic sludge left over.. and if its not used to make plastic stuff it just remains toxic sludge which has to go somewhere. so might aswell use the sludge to make plastic stuff.. but should be long-life plastics

so yea, when the country needs an abundance of plastic stuff like window frames, piping.. and there is a flammable liquid byproduct, might aswell use it for fuel
so yea, when the country needs an abundance of fuel for things like planes.. and there is a sludge byproduct, might aswell use it for plastic
but in both cases, trump wants it to be sourced from american oil mostly

[suchmoon]

Just think about it for a moment. Musk is auditing the US gov and in fact uncovered a lot of fraud

Not a fact at all, in fact most of the BS "receipts" of fraud he used to post online have been debunked just based on publicly available information, so the rest of it is probably bullshit too. So obviously he did the chickenshit thing and stopped posting details that allowed people to research his claims of fraud.

That's not to say there isn't fraud in the government but it's likely quite a bit more sophisticated than Elon and his fanboys tend to fantasize, nor does it have anything to with Epstein... other than Elon currently working for one of the most corrupt politicians and an Epstein client too... oh wait, maybe it is Trump paying for those Tesla boycotts, he doesn't like EVs and hates Elon too.

[passwordnow]

TESLA stock prices were on a bit of a tear, maybe a correction was inevitable.

I think that even Elon sees this happening. It came from him that the price of Tesla's stock is quite expensive, and I guess he's real honest with that.

from may 2022- november 2024 tesla averaged $250
in december-jan it peaked to $440 and has now in march returned to the average of $250

so no loss really.. just a normal day

With that range, there is no loss and you're right. But it is not for me to say that there is no loss especially to those people that have bought during the peak of it. Because the majority considers Tesla is one of the stocks now that have lost massively in its stock price. I wonder how he's going to balance things when he's working for Doge and his companies at the same time.

[coolcoinz]

Not a fact at all, in fact most of the BS "receipts" of fraud he used to post online have been debunked just based on publicly available information, so the rest of it is probably bullshit too. So obviously he did the chickenshit thing and stopped posting details that allowed people to research his claims of fraud.

That's not to say there isn't fraud in the government but it's likely quite a bit more sophisticated than Elon and his fanboys tend to fantasize, nor does it have anything to with Epstein... other than Elon currently working for one of the most corrupt politicians and an Epstein client too... oh wait, maybe it is Trump paying for those Tesla boycotts, he doesn't like EVs and hates Elon too.

They won't let me read that unless I subscribe, so I have to take your word for it. Do they say something about the fact that USAID decided to burn confidential documents so that DOGE wouldn't be able to see it, or that the US gov financed "scientists" that were trying to impregnate male mice? What about the fact that people age 100+ were listed as alive in the social security database?
I'd like to see Musk proven wrong on 100% of these claims, but even if 10% of it is true it doesn't look good.
I'd really like to see the numbers. Costs of running DOGE operation vs how much money it saved the government.

That was "old Trump" The current Trump is different.  

I remember Trump saying that he doesn't like bitcoin and the USD should be the only currency in the US, so I'm not surprised to see him criticize Musk in 2022 just to shake his hand in 2024. We've seen it all: the crypto hater Trump, the NFT Trump, the meme coin Trump, the bitcoin reserve Trump. What's next?
That said, Reid Hoffman really was on Epstein list and it looks like he really had something to do with a Tesla boycott. It would be just another normal day on Wall Street if a few of these rich guys shorted Tesla while paying celebrities to promote Tesla dumping. It's like a me too movement for Tesla now.

[franky1]

They won't let me read that unless I subscribe, so I have to take your word for it

right click - copy link, of links that lead to paywalls, then use things like archive.today or wayback machine or other internet archive services.. enjoy

[paxmao]

Just think about it for a moment. Musk is auditing the US gov and in fact uncovered a lot of fraud

Not a fact at all, in fact most of the BS "receipts" of fraud he used to post online have been debunked just based on publicly available information, so the rest of it is probably bullshit too. So obviously he did the chickenshit thing and stopped posting details that allowed people to research his claims of fraud.

That's not to say there isn't fraud in the government but it's likely quite a bit more sophisticated than Elon and his fanboys tend to fantasize, nor does it have anything to with Epstein... other than Elon currently working for one of the most corrupt politicians and an Epstein client too... oh wait, maybe it is Trump paying for those Tesla boycotts, he doesn't like EVs and hates Elon too.

That is something that has lead me to think there is something more than meets the eye. Trumps killing the Carbon and green agenda and deregualting seems to go directly against Elon's largest company.

There has to be something between Trump, Elon, Putin and perhaps a few others that is not clearly known. I am not into conspiracy theories, but there are actions of Elon that I cannot explain outside substance abutse or the like. Any clues?

[franky1]

That is something that has lead me to think there is something more than meets the eye. Trumps killing the Carbon and green agenda and deregualting seems to go directly against Elon's largest company.

There has to be something between Trump, Elon, Putin and perhaps a few others that is not clearly known. I am not into conspiracy theories, but there are actions of Elon that I cannot explain outside substance abutse or the like. Any clues?

what if i told you all of elons businesses
space X, tesla, gigafactory, boring, solarCity are all just R&D for automated mineral mining on the moon and mars

what if i told you US and Russia and most countries are fighting for minerals
what if i told you a few million cars of just a few $b value is crumbs compared to the $trillions available of mineral trade

[Hispo]

Just think about it for a moment. Musk is auditing the US gov and in fact uncovered a lot of fraud

Not a fact at all, in fact most of the BS "receipts" of fraud he used to post online have been debunked just based on publicly available information, so the rest of it is probably bullshit too. So obviously he did the chickenshit thing and stopped posting details that allowed people to research his claims of fraud.

That's not to say there isn't fraud in the government but it's likely quite a bit more sophisticated than Elon and his fanboys tend to fantasize, nor does it have anything to with Epstein... other than Elon currently working for one of the most corrupt politicians and an Epstein client too... oh wait, maybe it is Trump paying for those Tesla boycotts, he doesn't like EVs and hates Elon too.

That is something that has lead me to think there is something more than meets the eye. Trumps killing the Carbon and green agenda and deregualting seems to go directly against Elon's largest company.

There has to be something between Trump, Elon, Putin and perhaps a few others that is not clearly known. I am not into conspiracy theories, but there are actions of Elon that I cannot explain outside substance abutse or the like. Any clues?

They are all more United ideologically than by their economical objectives in the short term, I guess. They all had something to lose if a Kamala administration took place in the United States: Trump would have lost his freedom because of all the crimes he has been invited for, Elon Musk would have lost further favor from the government of the United States because the way he has politicized his businesses and Twitter/X. Putin is way more obvious, he wants the war in Ukraine to be over and be the winner of all that land he has occupied, it would have been very difficult with Kamala Harris as the first female president of the United States, now he has the implicit backing of Trump, who is bullying the president of the invaded country, instead of defending Ukraine from the aggressor.
Elon has managed to make Trump to sit down in one of his electric cars for the sake of advertisement, so he will try further to change his narrative on Electric Vehicles even further.

[paxmao]

That is something that has lead me to think there is something more than meets the eye. Trumps killing the Carbon and green agenda and deregualting seems to go directly against Elon's largest company.

There has to be something between Trump, Elon, Putin and perhaps a few others that is not clearly known. I am not into conspiracy theories, but there are actions of Elon that I cannot explain outside substance abutse or the like. Any clues?

what if i told you all of elons businesses
space X, tesla, gigafactory, boring, solarCity are all just R&D for automated mineral mining on the moon and mars

what if i told you US and Russia and most countries are fighting for minerals
what if i told you a few million cars of just a few $b value is crumbs compared to the $trillions available of mineral trade

What if I told you that my uncle Herbert likes Burbon.

Ok, I am going to make the effort to take you seriously... do you remember that scene in Game of Thrones where the blond cute one (Daeneris) was with three tiny dragons at the gates of a city and told them she needed to go in or she would die while at the same time she promised revenge? Well, the answer was... to get revenge you need to survide today.

Anyone who has a clue about business knows this truth: You may be great tomorrow, but first you need to survive today.

[franky1]

What if I told you that my uncle Herbert likes Burbon.

Ok, I am going to make the effort to take you seriously... do you remember that scene in Game of Thrones where the blond cute one (Daeneris) was with three tiny dragons at the gates of a city and told them she needed to go in or she would die while at the same time she promised revenge? Well, the answer was... to get revenge you need to survide today.

Anyone who has a clue about business knows this truth: You may be great tomorrow, but first you need to survive today.

what if i tell you again that this weeks tesla stock prices are still inline with 2024 average and way higher than 2020 prices
what if i told you if elon was fired today by tesla board/chairmen/shareholders, he is still richer than us all

just remember although the stock had a ATH in december .. it corrected back to norm now.. its not a death signal
even musk said the december price was over valued so he was expecting a correction


i know many US Dem leaning twits want to paint a picture acting as if their words/actions have caused elon to crawl into a ball in a corner rocking back and fourth crying like a kid that got bullied... but nah. i dont see that happening

he has bigger fish to fry, like getting the ISS astronauts back, like doing deals in india, and finding all the other fraud the dems are hiding in the fed
"oh well"


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JI-_WKW4H3Y
"offer me money, offer me power, i dont care" [so you dont care, you wanna share what you have to say] "i'll say what i want to say and if the consequence is losing money so be it"

[suchmoon]

They won't let me read that unless I subscribe, so I have to take your word for it. Do they say something about the fact that USAID decided to burn confidential documents so that DOGE wouldn't be able to see it, or that the US gov financed "scientists" that were trying to impregnate male mice? What about the fact that people age 100+ were listed as alive in the social security database?

Except USAID document destruction, that happened under Trump's admin, is challenged by people suing DOGE, not the other way around. DOGE doesn't need documents or proof or anything, they just make shit up and close entire departments because "woke". Court cases against them would need documents and proof.

Not sure what mice you're talking about, this perhaps?

The SS thing has been thoroughly debunked. Number of people receiving payouts closely matches number of people actually existing (according to the Census Bureau). People being listed in a database doesn't mean fraud.

[caroasi]

So, a billionaire that has received and still receives plenty of Government contract has gone - unchecked and unelected - rampart on personel and costs of the government (not a bad thing) but disregarding much of the underlying real needs that were actually being covered, e.g. veterans.

And people are voting with their purchases which is reflected on the Tesla stock price. Shareholders at this point must be fuming.

Government efficiency is actually a non-controversial topic that has been brought into an artificial controversy by Democrats by reasoning of sheer hatred for anyone who supports their opponents. Musk selected the most non-controversial topic upon which to participate in government yet Democrats found a reason to passionately hate him for this.

The reduced sales by Democrats who are told to hate Musk by legacy media are balanced against higher sales to Republicans who appreciate his efficiency efforts. Telsa's future is more about selling robots than cars, so their car sales just won't be driving down the stock substantially. That said, leading tech companies are widely considered to be in an overbought bubble similar to 1999 internet companies, so that could result in a crash regardless anyone buying or not buying a Tesla.

[BADecker]

^^^ A couple of interesting points are:

1. Musk and DOGE don't have any authority to make changes in government or anywhere else. All they are doing is investigation. Then it is up to the government agencies, or Trump by whatever means, to authorize and make the changes.

2. Musk is taking the Dem lambasting of his companies all in stride. Why? Because when it is all over - in the long run - he will be vindicated by his help in extending MAGA throughout the USA. THAT vindication will help his companies to grow beyond even his dreams.

The Deep State is using the tactics that they have always been using. Lie and deceive the people into voting for them in mind if not literally.

Now is the time for us to support ourselves by supporting Trump, Musk, DOGE, and MAGA if we want to make ourselves personally strong, along with America.

[franky1]

The SS thing has been thoroughly debunked. Number of people receiving payouts closely matches number of people actually existing (according to the Census Bureau). People being listed in a database doesn't mean fraud.

so you use a AP article as a debunk
according to the AP debunk.. the dems sorted out all improper payment and clawed things back on or before january.. and it only amounted to $30m
"according to a report in july 2024"  "according to appropriations bill 2021"

sooooooo.... if true. how come the dead are still "alive" in feb 2025.. oh wait. yep dems didnt find crap, they didnt look or check or do the investigations they said. they didnt fix it and remove the "living dead"... because, mhm.. yep the dead are still alive feb 2025

also to note.(research the word appropriations)
when treasury value how much funds should go into the SS budget. the SS department calculate how many people are "alive" on their system above X age whom deserve payments(even if unclaimed) and earmark a total.. to ensure they have money for all possible claims so that the money is there to make payments, and ontop of that also the SS departments admin costs of running SS.
then its up to SS to spend that money to those claims that ask for SS.. so even if no human asks for SS above X age. the SS has got more money in which becomes admin spending. because each year when departments get a budget. if there is an excess at the end of the year, it needs to be spent else they lose it(not rolled over) so most departments admin then spend it on nonsense like office upgrades, payrises, 'business events', fleets of cars for office staff use.

part of trumps economic plan is to sort the waste and make departments more financially efficient

[paxmao]

What if I told you that my uncle Herbert likes Burbon.

Ok, I am going to make the effort to take you seriously... do you remember that scene in Game of Thrones where the blond cute one (Daeneris) was with three tiny dragons at the gates of a city and told them she needed to go in or she would die while at the same time she promised revenge? Well, the answer was... to get revenge you need to survide today.

Anyone who has a clue about business knows this truth: You may be great tomorrow, but first you need to survive today.

what if i tell you again that this weeks tesla stock prices are still inline with 2024 average and way higher than 2020 prices
what if i told you if elon was fired today by tesla board/chairmen/shareholders, he is still richer than us all

just remember although the stock had a ATH in december .. it corrected back to norm now.. its not a death signal
even musk said the december price was over valued so he was expecting a correction


i know many US Dem leaning twits want to paint a picture acting as if their words/actions have caused elon to crawl into a ball in a corner rocking back and fourth crying like a kid that got bullied... but nah. i dont see that happening

he has bigger fish to fry, like getting the ISS astronauts back, like doing deals in india, and finding all the other fraud the dems are hiding in the fed
"oh well"


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JI-_WKW4H3Y
"offer me money, offer me power, i dont care" [so you dont care, you wanna share what you have to say] "i'll say what i want to say and if the consequence is losing money so be it"

I will tell you that they were and have been for a long time too expensive. But hey, just go and buy Tesla stock and them pump with narratives such as "they are going to  mine asteroids" and the like. You know what is happening? That money in the funds is apolitical, or better said, their only politics is to win more money.

Oh BTW, if you say compare to 2020, please take the inflation into account. The shares are in real terms lower - and thanks for helping me prove a point... I mean, if I had made a point of that .

[OgNasty]

Someone created a Dogequest website that gives the names addresses and phone numbers of Tesla owners on a map with the intent of having people spray paint the cars. These people are sick anti-Americans who want to try and feel tough doing the most bitchmade shit imaginable. I pity the liberal that gets caught messing with my truck…

[franky1]

Oh BTW, if you say compare to 2020, please take the inflation into account. The shares are in real terms lower - and thanks for helping me prove a point... I mean, if I had made a point of that .

shares 2020 $28.50
shares 2025 $225

so inflation has been 789% over last 5 years.....according to you......(facepalm)
ok ill send you a working calculator for next christmas, gives you plenty of time to learn maths the hard way before that

[suchmoon]

sooooooo.... if true. how come the dead are still "alive" in feb 2025.. oh wait. yep dems didnt find crap, they didnt look or check or do the investigations they said. they didnt fix it and remove the "living dead"... because, mhm.. yep the dead are still alive feb 2025

Right, so your response to Elon being wrong is like... that's impossible because what he said is definitely undoubtedly true LOL

I don't know what to tell you, other than you're being scammed by an asshole billionaire, but it appears that a lot of people really enjoy that weird fetish.

[franky1]

sooooooo.... if true. how come the dead are still "alive" in feb 2025.. oh wait. yep dems didnt find crap, they didnt look or check or do the investigations they said. they didnt fix it and remove the "living dead"... because, mhm.. yep the dead are still alive feb 2025

Right, so your response to Elon being wrong is like... that's impossible because what he said is definitely undoubtedly true LOL
I don't know what to tell you, other than you're being scammed by an asshole billionaire, but it appears that a lot of people really enjoy that weird fetish.

you need to read better
by keeping 130-300+yr old SSN active, the social security department get extra budget, which they spend/ need to spend before next funding round

in some cases its spent funding unvetted/unchecked identity thieves who use old SSN to claim unemployment/disability/pension income. in other cases the department increases its spending internally
both cases are fraud
heck alot of fraud happened during the covid era, concerning stimulus cheques

either way in february 2025 (long after the reports that pretend to debunk) the 130-300+yr old SSN were still active which shows the reports didnt find what elon found. else those old SSN would have been fixed long before elon

..
if you want to follow the math
$71bil in improper payments is either $71b improper internal office overspend
or
based on a $20k annual benefit to a individual means 3.5million people are claiming benefits they shouldnt

which is nothing like "just a couple dead people" myth..
its actually alot of money wastage/fraud, and yes during the dem administration they admit there is $71b abuse of SS system/budget

oh and if the SS department only have a masterlist of 142m deaths going back hundreds of years.. they are missing alot of deaths.

[OgNasty]

Liberals have gone full anti-America now. They’ve lost their minds. They are angry that Elon is getting waste and fraud out of the budget to the point where they thing committing domestic terrorism is the answer. They’re carving swastikas on people’s cars and then saying those people are the nazis. Sanity has left the building.