How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?

[serjent05]

I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling [/center]

With just random ID checks and geolocation, I do not think that it will ensure that the player who are registering on the platform are not under 18 years old.  Most platform need to have a photo of the account owner holding their ID and holding a piece of paper with the username and casino name written on it.  others even implement a recorded video call for KYC.  This way the casino platform make sure that the person is the actual owner of the document.

[BitMaxz]

I don't see any other way to ensure if the player is not minor but only KYC is I think the solution to make sure they don't have minor players on their platform.

Perhaps asking for a live chat would be another option, but you can not be sure if their customer is 18 or older because some of the 18 below look like to be adults. So the only way to ensure that the player is not a minor is to submit documents as well as a selfie.

[Huppercase]

I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling

There is no way casino can get 100% information about people, they just accept because they asked and it was given to them. As long as evn the banks get scammed by fake "know your customer" verification, even casino can't avoid it. There are places where kyc are been brought, some people goes in there to buy documents and take information. Places like immigration offices get scam of fake identification, I'm not sure casino can accurately get all the information they need about a customer.

Most often, casino don't really verify informations that are been submitted to them but kept it on record when it's necessary. If a person violate a rule or don't do according to the law, they brings out their file to investigate what was submited. Some casino verified users under 10 minutes and some ding make use of third party verification system, it's just them and the users and don't bother, sometimes I wonder if that's the international law regarding anti money laundering scheme of KYC verification.

[Charles-Tim]

There is no way casino can get 100% information about people, they just accept because they asked and it was given to them. As long as evn the banks get scammed by fake "know your customer" verification, even casino can't avoid it. There are places where kyc are been brought, some people goes in there to buy documents and take information. Places like immigration offices get scam of fake identification, I'm not sure casino can accurately get all the information they need about a customer.

You are very right. I can not agree more. But ID document verification can help reduce under 18 from gambling, unlike on non-KYC sites.

Most often, casino don't really verify informations that are been submitted to them but kept it on record when it's necessary. If a person violate a rule or don't do according to the law, they brings out their file to investigate what was submited. Some casino verified users under 10 minutes and some ding make use of third party verification system, it's just them and the users and don't bother, sometimes I wonder if that's the international law regarding anti money laundering scheme of KYC verification.

How about exchanges like Binance that verify users within 2 to 5 minutes or so. I have seen gambling sites that rejected ID document submitted before. So I think they verify the document but maybe not all gambling sites. But if a user wants to withdraw, the gambling site will go more investigating the user eligibility before releasing the coin.

[passwordnow]

There is no way to verify that aside from implementing KYC. That's why if there are casinos that don't have KYC, they are being favored by these teens and kids that are into gambling. We have that reality that even in these young lads, they're already open and aware of how to gamble. Simple registration, deposits and withdrawals, they know that and it's probably that there's someone that taught them and of course if it's not from their parents. It's possible that it's from a friend's influence and they just learned that so that they can be in in the friendship of their peers.

[katanic97]

I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling [/center]

I don't think these measures are enough, but in general, 90% of casinos require identity verification through an ID card or similar document.When it comes to payments, most of them are done via credit/debit cards or cryptocurrencies. In most cases, minors don’t have debit cards or crypto accounts, so that also serves as a form of "protection."

However, when we look at the bigger picture, a lot of minors still gamble, and they always find a way to bypass all the verification processes we’re talking about.

[Hatchy]

KYC is the only means gambling sites can use to know if their customers are over 18 years old and above. If KYC is not mandatory, definitely some under 18 years can make use of the gambling site. There is no way the gambling site can know they are not up to 18 years of age unless that get them verified.

With the kind of kids we have in this generation, I don't think passing the kyc is going to be a problem. There are a lot of ways they may think about to bypass it and trick the casino into thinking they verified an adult. To me, this issue cannot be fully justified as the kids can steal their parents IDs just to register on a site and then return it after. Some other ways I think the casino would be able to do this is to ask for facial recognition during verification and not just dropping some random documents off.

[stompix]

They can't, simply as that!

First, nobody can stop a 16-17 from asking someone to KYC the account for them, with enough money you will get for certain some unemployed guy or a hobo to verify your account with his data, how will the casino know it's not him playing?
Second, no casino can tell if the child of user is suing that account also, there is no way to detect that.

So until we advance to a technology where biometrics will be used live like a secure connection to your account so it's only you who plays or watch youtube or purchase something from your own device, etc, there is no bulletproof way to stop this.

[Crypto Library]

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling

At this moments I don't think that there is any other way rather than implementing the KYC verification. Even then some cases I sawn than the under age people create the fake NID'S to compete the kyc verification and gamble.
In some cases, casinos do not really understand whether the KYC verification is fake or not because the casinos do not have a database of the NID of that country. So, KYC verification does not work to prevent this, but practically not everyone can do fake KYC verification, which indicates that under-age gambling is reduced as a result of KYC implementation.
In this regard, only proper parenting and awareness on the part of parents can reduce underage gambling.

[wheelz1200]

I dont think for online versions you can completely eliminate it.  A lot easier for brick and mortar type casinos to since you habe to show ID.  I think its more on the people who use their ID or KYC docs needing to do the right thing and not let them use their ID to gamble with.  Not much else online casinos can do then what they are already doing.

[Natalim]

That is why I support KYC, as this plays a key role in determining who is allowed to play and who is not. Through this system, it was difficult for those below 18 years old to have a chance to gamble.

Unfortunately, some people don't understand why it is important, as they only just focus on privacy rather than the huge benefits it gives to the community. Might some have faked their identification during KYC? Not completely 100% sure they are of illegal age, but at least it limits their entry.

[Cantsay]

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling [/center]

No system is perfect - even the most secure systems still have a few flaws that could be exploited by some people and that too applies to the kyc system of online casinos. It’s true that it works very effectively but still it still won’t be able to get rid of underaged people registering in their account, remember that not all casinos ask for these information during registration which means those who are yet to reach 18 years of age can still register and gamble before they are asked to submit their kyc documents.

And also those who engages in accounts sales tend to be another loophole for underaged people to gamble, it’s very easy to procure an account that has already been verified (as we usually see them advertised here) so if they are really desperate they can engage in account buying and then gamble without even getting to the illegible age.

So in all, KYC is great but it’s not 100% getting rid of underaged people registering accounts.

[boyptc]

So maybe asking them if they're going to be honest with their question by the time they registered as kyc-free casino.

"Are you 18+ years old? Yes or no"

Nah, it's not going to work. These kids will lie of their age and will hit the 18+ yes button so that they get to gamble and no one can stop them.

[Onyeeze]

Any gambling website that demand for kyc verification that means that that particular gambling platform one to automatically know their customers so that they are customers will not cheat their platform in any way so I believe that it is the Essence of Casino platforms and the other dumbbelling platforms the mind for kyc verification, the aspect of age if you are not up to 18 years of age I don't think that you have all the necessary documents to verify your gambling platform account so I don't also believe that the reason why casinos asked for verification is not because of underage it is because of the manipulation people who gambles every time do perform in order to cheat the platform

[Fortify]

I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling [/center]

It's such a simple thing to do.. the casinos that are not doing these basic checks are taking a risk. In some countries, even European countries, there are thresholds or grey areas that casinos can skirt around which allows them to accept a small amount of business before trying to verify the customer. Then there will be more sketchy casinos that are headquartered in more lawless places or specifically try to hide where their owners are based. They are not necessarily worried about being caught accepting cash from underage players, because it's probably more dangerous if they accept cash from unidentified criminals in which case they are assisting in money laundering which may have much more severe penalties.

[r_victory]

Casinos that do not request KYC risk being sued if a minor uses their services. Even if they do not ask for it at the beginning to facilitate the registration process, they should ask for it at the time of withdrawal. Casinos that want to be recognized as reputable must comply with the laws in force in each location; they are, first and foremost, businesses. And those that do not ask for anything are usually not thinking about the “customer”, but only about themselves.

[Charles-Tim]

KYC is the only means gambling sites can use to know if their customers are over 18 years old and above. If KYC is not mandatory, definitely some under 18 years can make use of the gambling site. There is no way the gambling site can know they are not up to 18 years of age unless that get them verified.

With the kind of kids we have in this generation, I don't think passing the kyc is going to be a problem. There are a lot of ways they may think about to bypass it and trick the casino into thinking they verified an adult. To me, this issue cannot be fully justified as the kids can steal their parents IDs just to register on a site and then return it after. Some other ways I think the casino would be able to do this is to ask for facial recognition during verification and not just dropping some random documents off.

I was referring to non-KYC gambling sites. For KYC gambling sites, the verification will only reduce the possibility of underage to be gambling on the site to a large extent but I also do not think the gambling sites can do it in a way their gambling site can be of no under 18 customers.

Also maybe some kids can be smart to the extent of buying verified accounts.

[uneng]

For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?

There is no way to know if gamblers are underage on that case. Privacy comes with that price...

Still, it's much better than being tracked and required to share your personal informations through KYC procedure. Regards underage individuals, it's responsability of their parents and tutors to ensure they aren't engaging themselves in risky activities.

If everyone was more responsible and concerned about their offspring, regulators couldn't use underage excuse to enforce gamblers into going through KYC.

[LogitechMouse]

Simple KYC.
Desperate gamblers under 18 years old will surely want to gamble by all means so they lie about the age. So, casinos should take KYC compulsory because that is the only way they can control age factor in gambling. On the other hand, casinos do careless about that these few years.

If you're the gambler, do you like to share your personal information to some strangers out there that you don't even know?
Are you comfortable to share your information to some gambling websites out there?

For me, and for most of the gamblers, it isn't because it can affect their security especially if the gambling casino sees that the gambler/s is/are winning huge amounts of money on their website. Nobody here wants to do KYC on a gambling website, not even me TBH that's why many gamblers wants to gamble on a casino that at least doesn't require you to share your personal information (unless you're withdrawing huge amounts of money then of course that would be a different scenario). On the flip side, there are some gambling websites that requires KYC, but those are huge casinos IMO.

Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?

If it's online, you simply can't ensure it.
KYC might do the job, but anything can be edited online already. I don't want to generalize things, but these kiddos will do everything just to have an access to your casino despite having a KYC. If they don't want to share their personal information, they can just find another gambling website out there.

[Hirose UK]

For casinos that do not enforce KYC or are not licensed, they will definitely not care about age restrictions, they will only prioritize how to get more customers and spend more money in the casinos without knowing who and how old their customers are.
Moreover, I sure that teenagers who gamble will falsify their age verification when registering and the casinos is also unlikely to do geolocation tracking or ID checks just to find out the age of their customers.