Atomic Wallet

[Banoose]

I feel as though I am being scammed and at the end of any potential opportunity for me to salvage any money I had sent to the potential scammers.

This morning we had moved my bitcoin into Atomic Wallet and was told that we would move it to my Shakepay account, then to my bank account shortly after.

It has been about 10 hours since last communication and I don't want to give them the opportunity to remove my funds to their accounts.

Is there a clear and slow tutorial that someone can share with me that would enable me the ability to move my money from Atomic Wallet to my Shakepay?

[Forsyth Jones]

To begin with, it is no surprise that Atomic Wallet is not a recommended wallet. For bitcoin only, there are excellent wallets such as Bluewallet, Green Wallet, Stack Wallet and Coinomi Wallet for a multicoin wallet.

Exodus, which I also don’t recommend, is already a better option than Atomic. In short, use opensource wallets or at least ones that well-known wallets in the community.

For desktop, I usually recommend Electrum, bitcoin core (full node), Wasabi or GingerWallet.

About your transaction, if you don't mind, share your TX or tell us the status of your transaction.

If the transaction already has several confirmations, you can contact the service through its official website and X account. Send as many details as possible, as well as transaction ID, bitcoin address and screenshots.

[nc50lc]

This morning we had moved my bitcoin into Atomic Wallet and was told that we would move it to my Shakepay account, then to my bank account shortly after.

It has been about 10 hours since last communication and I don't want to give them the opportunity to remove my funds to their accounts.

Question, who is instructing you to do those stuffs?
If it's someone you don't know or someone you just met on the internet, chances that it's a scam is high.

Because Atomic wallet is advertised as a self-custodial wallet which you should be the only one who is in control of its funds.
Means that no one should create the wallet for you; if you're the one created it, you should be the only one who knows the wallet's seed phrase.

If you've already given someone your "seed phrase" (set of words) or someone created the wallet for you, it's positively a scam.

[hugeblack]

It has been about 10 hours since last communication and I don't want to give them the opportunity to remove my funds to their accounts.

Are you sure you didn't click on a phishing link? If you downloaded the wallet from a trusted link, contact https://shakepay.com/ srupport team to update your balance, including your TX ID.

Adding more details might be helpful: Where were your coins before transferring them to Atomic Wallet? Does your balance appear in Atomic Wallet? Did you transfer your coins to shakepay.com? What was the response from the support team?

[Nihum342]

It has been about 10 hours since last communication and I don't want to give them the opportunity to remove my funds to their accounts.

Are you sure you didn't click on a phishing link? If you downloaded the wallet from a trusted link, contact https://shakepay.com/ srupport team to update your balance, including your TX ID.

Adding more details might be helpful: Where were your coins before transferring them to Atomic Wallet? Does your balance appear in Atomic Wallet? Did you transfer your coins to shakepay.com? What was the response from the support team?

I agree with you, he should have given more information on the post. But I think he is an inexperienced person. He may have clicked the phishing link given by a scammer in the hope of greed. And lost his dollars.

[NotATether]

Abort this trade now,  before it's too late.

Send your BTC out from atomic wallet back to whichever wallet you took it from, because the clowns running Atomic Wallet don't have a clue how to keep their own users' funds SAFU, either.

Then open an escrowed P2P trade at Hodlhodl or something like that and have the other party send funds to your bank directly.

[mk4]

At this stage, if you're actually holding a decent amount of money in BTC, why aren't you using a hardware wallet? And of all wallets, you used Atomic? At least use something decent like BlueWallet.

[DaveF]

It's been known that atomic wallet has been compromised for close to 2 years now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454994.0
So even if you were not being scammed using it at all puts and funds in it at risk.

As others have said, if you didn't do this all yourself or gave anyone any information it's probably a scam and they took your money.

-Dave

[Lucius]

At this stage, if you're actually holding a decent amount of money in BTC, why aren't you using a hardware wallet? And of all wallets, you used Atomic? At least use something decent like BlueWallet.

That's a legitimate question, but I wonder how relevant it is to the OP - because he seems to me (no offense) like one of those who invested in BTC a long time ago and now wants to sell it without having learned anything about all these things in the meantime. Over the years, I realized that there are a lot of people who have no idea what a hardware wallet is, even if they own cryptocurrencies.

Ultimately, it all comes down to the fact that most people will choose something that is free, rather than something they have to pay for - and of course there is also the factor of the wallet name that attracts people - atomic, trust, freewallet and the like.

[Z-tight]

Atomic wallet is not recommended and nobody should be using it. However, i don't think the problem is from Atomic wallet in this case, i believe the op has been scammed, though the thread lacks enough information, but op talks like someone or people were instructing him on what to do, and things like this usually end up as a scam, and i think op may have lost his money, unless he comes here to clarify all of this uncertainty.

[Banoose]

Good afternoon,

Thank you all so much for the responses...they are very helpful and it would appear that I "may" be the victim here...but I still cannot say for certain.

I am a complete newbie to this so it would be easy to pull the wool over my eyes.

At current I have over $16K USD in Atomic and there is supposed to be an additional 5K added once the actual gold is converted to Cash, at my request.

When I go into Atomic to try to move it out into Shakepay myself, the message I get when I put the Address (which I get from Shakepay) is "incorrect".  I have tried it numerous times but have been unsuccessful thus far.

I downloaded the App from the App Store  and set it up myself without receiving input on what to enter from an outside source which makes me feel a little more secure, but I still cannot move the money.  Prior to using Atomic Wallet the app that the individual was requesting we use together was "Trust" and when I look at that right now it is showing a value of $62,234.81 in the Ethereum Wallet...yet again, I cannot move it.

After this message I will reach out to Customer Support to see if they can do anything to assist?

I initially got involved with this investment through an add I saw on "X".  I did do a little due diligence and it seemed like it was a legitimate process as there was some comments from previous investors who said that they did make a lot of money out of it, but the withdrawal process was brutal and it took a long time.

The primary contact person identifies herself as Jessica Alba.  I know this seems obvious, but I also did make some comments on the initial site before I deleted X when Elon started getting involved in politics as deeply as he is.  I wish I did not now though because I cannot find the investment add now that I reinstalled X to try to sort through the weeds.  The company that she claims she works for is Fortifix (Fortfix?) 

As it stands today, the portfolio does not apparently require more funds to contribute and we are at the Withdrawal point....and that is where it stands.  I have made it very clear to both of the contacts I am communication with and they are both claiming that I am holding up the final process by not providing them with the needed information.

I am a Canadian Resident and without my knowing, it is apparently more difficult (according to them) to withdraw funds from a US Crypto investment and withdraw funds to a Canadian Customer is what they are claiming.  I refuse to give them my SIN#, as well as my CRA Login information which is what they are saying they need to complete the withdraw.  The communications are getting quite heated because I don't believe them.

Here is the latest response via WhatsApp chat.

"Yes, this literally why you see these rules are beyond me its Canadian and United States laws we have to follow here...the only logical option is if you can get a credit card account with some notable credit card companies there that work in the US too and give us access too pay that money inside then we can tender that...some are CIBC and other good credit card company if it comes on time we can present that as a valid asset means or simply just pay for Scott to go to CRA and answer them in person too clear the wire I believe the easiest flight you could pay for him to go should cost about $1500 because he stays much farther in the south in the United States than me so if the card can come on time before the time frame they gave us we can use the card to pay the funds into but if it doesn't then you can offer to pay for his travel cost so he answers them too clear the wire physically".

LMAO as I was reading this out loud as I typed it I shook my head a few times!!!  LMAO

I will not be giving my CRA Personal Account information, Credit Card information, or my SIN#....just saying because I am sure that this would be a comment from several! lol

What are the actual rules for a canadian investor who is investing in the US when it comes to withdrawal???

Thanks in advance!!!

[nc50lc]

When I go into Atomic to try to move it out into Shakepay myself, the message I get when I put the Address (which I get from Shakepay) is "incorrect".  I have tried it numerous times but have been unsuccessful thus far.
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Prior to using Atomic Wallet the app that the individual was requesting we use together was "Trust" and when I look at that right now it is showing a value of $62,234.81 in the Ethereum Wallet...yet again, I cannot move it.

Since you still have access to your Trust wallet, can you tell if it show something like this (encircled in purple) when displaying that balance?


If not, check which Blockchain or Token the balance belongs to, then identify the blockchain selected when the recipient address is displayed in FixedFloat (it should match)
Because the error "Incorrect Address" isn't something about regulations, that's simply a mismatch in the "Network" of the sender and recipient. (some use the same address, so be careful)

On a side note; the update still sounds like it's a scam, it's even more apparent in the shared reply.

[Banoose]

This has been a learning experience to say the least!  lol  I remain optimistic that I will find a legitimate opportunity to invest.

I have been in contact with Atomic Wallet and they confirmed for me that there is "No Assets" in my portfolio and the page that I has access to was developed by a scammer.

So, I am out a couple grand but I am ok with that.  I have never been wealthy and view this is a little set back....I am still get messages from these individuals but I made it clear to them that I know that they are not real and I will not be trusting them with any further opportunities.  I thought about reporting this to the local authorities as well as the OPP, but I am certain that nothing would happen regardless.

SO....knowing this and my being a complete newbie to this....what could someone suggest for me to start to learn this complex system, or a reputable investment strategy?

Thank you all so much!

[nc50lc]

SO....knowing this and my being a complete newbie to this....what could someone suggest for me to start to learn this complex system, or a reputable investment strategy?

The thing is, Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies aren't something that guarantees positive gains, it has Markets which dictates whether your investments will grow or not.
If someone says that they can give you guaranteed gains (specially with ridiculous percentage), that's a scam.

The simplest investment that you can do is to accumulate amounts in a secure "Cold-Storage" wallet.
Be it an offline "Air-Gap" machine, a reputable hardware wallet or even an offline-generated wallet's backup written on paper.
If the target amount isn't too high, you can skip Cold-storage and use a secure Hot wallet if you want.

The idea is: Since Bitcoin is constantly gaining market price these past few years, your Bitcoin hodlings fiat equivalent price may grow in the new few years.
But that depends on the Market as I've mentioned.
If you want to risk some for potentially higher gains (if you have good Trading skill), try "Day Trading" on any famous reputable Cryptocurrency Exchange
but don't forget to send some of your gains to your own wallet since keeping those in an Exchange is dangerous.

Your main goal here should be the safety of your coins, so DYOR on cold-storage.
Some related docs that you may need, examples:

• [Software Wallet] Cold-Storage Electrum: https://bitcoinelectrum.com/creating-a-cold-storage-wallet-in-electrum/
• [Hardware Wallet]https://trezor.io/learn/a/what-is-a-hardware-wallet

[Lucius]

So, I am out a couple grand but I am ok with that.  I have never been wealthy and view this is a little set back....I am still get messages from these individuals but I made it clear to them that I know that they are not real and I will not be trusting them with any further opportunities.  I thought about reporting this to the local authorities as well as the OPP, but I am certain that nothing would happen regardless.
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Do you know why scammers survive and profit? No offense, but it's because of people like you who look for investment opportunities on social media and aren't suspicious when someone contacts them posing as a famous person.

If you're personally okay with losing a lot of money, maybe you should think about all the other people you could save by reporting your case to the police. That's just my personal opinion.

[Cricktor]

My first thought: why on earth has someone chosen to use Atomic Wallet again. But I realized quickly that newbies rarely do extensive research before they do "their stuff".

I thought about reporting this to the local authorities as well as the OPP, but I am certain that nothing would happen regardless.

I'm certain scammers like your viewpoint, but I wonder what makes you think of being certain that "nothing would happen regardless"? That would ultimately be a capitulation to crime, wouldn't it?

SO....knowing this and my being a complete newbie to this....what could someone suggest for me to start to learn this complex system, or a reputable investment strategy?

For a start you could learn about Bitcoin itself: https://learnmeabitcoin.com

Regarding investment strategies, I would want to fully understand them before I consider to use 'em. You should always be able to answer where does the money for profit comes from. Any investment that can't answer this easily should probably better be avoided.

Obviously high weekly or monthly percentage gain "investment" like +10% per week or month usually have no or obscure or "magic" explanations how this gain is actually achieved. Well, as already said in this thread: they are almost certainly a scam.

There's usually no "get rich quick and do nothing for it".

Be very careful with investment advise from strangers, especially on more or less anonymous (a)social channels.

[NotATether]

My first thought: why on earth has someone chosen to use Atomic Wallet again. But I realized quickly that newbies rarely do extensive research before they do "their stuff".

Atomic Wallet pays a lot to websites for advertising so there's that.

[Bluebird1357]

I feel as though I am being scammed and at the end of any potential opportunity for me to salvage any money I had sent to the potential scammers.

This morning we had moved my bitcoin into Atomic Wallet and was told that we would move it to my Shakepay account, then to my bank account shortly after.

It has been about 10 hours since last communication and I don't want to give them the opportunity to remove my funds to their accounts.

Is there a clear and slow tutorial that someone can share with me that would enable me the ability to move my money from Atomic Wallet to my Shakepay?

Your profile says you are new but the way you ask and write seems like you have a lot of experience discussing a complex topic of wallets. Anyway, the topic is still up for discussion whether you are old or new. However, if you had said whether you are actually using the wallet on mobile or desktop, then it would have been better for those who know the answer to your question to give the right answer.

[Lucius]

My first thought: why on earth has someone chosen to use Atomic Wallet again. But I realized quickly that newbies rarely do extensive research before they do "their stuff".

Atomic Wallet pays a lot to websites for advertising so there's that.

Everyone does this, especially those who realized very early on that a name plays a huge role in how the average person perceives something online. In particular, "atomic" sounds very good and attractive, but so do all those wallets that have words like free or trust in their name.

Cryptocurrencies are a scammers' paradise, because as we see, many people first mess up and only then seek advice.

[Floxynice]

I am a Canadian Resident and without my knowing, it is apparently more difficult (according to them) to withdraw funds from a US Crypto investment and withdraw funds to a Canadian Customer is what they are claiming.  I refuse to give them my SIN#, as well as my CRA Login information which is what they are saying they need to complete the withdraw.  The communications are getting quite heated because I don't believe them.

This is just a clear sign that the whole thing won't end well. They want to get access to your account first to complete the withdrawal process for you? This sounds fishy to me. With all my years of handling financial information, I have always been advised to keep my financial details private; both fiat accounts and crypto wallets. You're getting all these recommendations from some random guys you met on social media? It just says a lot.