What if the Internet shuts down? !!

[philipma1957]

Reviving the topic, the case of the "electric zero" in Europe intrigues me.

I'm curious to know how it impacted users during the massive power outage, primarily in Spain and Portugal.

Although the scenario did not show tension in the market, this could give us a small sample scenario if information from those affected is collected.

Not really . A world wide blackout of,all electronics would mean huge disasters.

It may even mean the chain could be erased.

So the real question is does a paper printout exist?

You can wipe all digital out with the right energy so did anyone print the block chain?

[NotFuzzyWarm]

so did anyone print the block chain?

You're kidding right? You know how many millions upon millions of pages it would take? Even if printed out - have fun re-entering the data back into digital form....

[Cricktor]

It may even mean the chain could be erased.

How should that happen? What could possibly trigger my nodes to fry or erase their storage in the context of a blackout event?

So the real question is does a paper printout exist?

Who knows? But I doubt that someone was that crazy. (Just in case: make the printout reliably machine-readable with enough error correction stuff so it can auto-correct scan and ocr errors.)

You can wipe all digital out with the right energy so did anyone print the block chain?

C'mon, seriously? That sounds a bit far fetched to me. I can't prove it, but it's highly highly unlikely that any digital copy of the Bitcoin blockchain worldwide could be erased within a short timespan.

... have fun re-entering the data back into digital form....

You're probably kidding, too.

There's computer technology for this, humans make too many typing errors. I'm old enough to have typed in hex listings for some machine code stuff on my Z80 powered home computer some decades ago. It's unlikely to avoid typos for even very few KiB of such stuff. You quickly learn that you want to have checksum bytes to quickly spot typos on-the-fly.

LOL, printing the blockchain... that's so day before yesterday. Burn it on archival grade optical media or something like that.

Someone for sure has offline backup media of the blockchain, too. I have monthly full backups with a retention time of one year with the previous from current month's copy stored outside my home. The town I'm living in would need to be obliterated to loose a copy, but then I'm gone anyway if I'm not on travel. And if some energy blast or alien death-rays would erase my backups, I'd have to worry about a lot of other stuff happening than about the blockchain.

[ABCbits]

Not really . A world wide blackout of,all electronics would mean huge disasters.

It may even mean the chain could be erased.

Someone could just store whole blockchain on data on long lasting storage such as M-Disc or LTO. You also can store those storage on secure location with proper protection (including EMP protection). But it feels like we're talking about post-apocalypse scenario.

So the real question is does a paper printout exist?

Probably no, unless you count people who print genesis block and use it as decoration.

so did anyone print the block chain?

You're kidding right? You know how many millions upon millions of pages it would take? Even if printed out - have fun re-entering the data back into digital form....

Not if you use QR code or other machine-readable format .

[BayAreaCoins]

Bitcoin would be completely fucked, the only thing more fucked would be the users.

[takuma sato]

Bitcoin is not designed as an apocalyptic, non-electricity work. Those scenarios are mad-max like and in that scenario not even gold will be relevant since most likely the world will be ruled by thugs that go around terrorizing people to steal resources. Bitcoin is for developed societies that may become increasingly tyrannical against financial freedom and freedoms in general. You don't want to end up without an alternative to CBDCs and Bitcoin is that, and as it stands, it's the only real alternative. In this context, Bitcoin remains undervalued since this is not priced in.

[Stalker22]

Those scenarios are mad-max like and in that scenario not even gold will be relevant since most likely the world will be ruled by thugs that go around terrorizing people to steal resources.
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Oh yeah, because before the internet, we were all just grunting in caves and clubbing each other, right? LOL!  The rule of law didn't suddenly materialize with dial-up. It's almost like societies functioned perfectly well for millennia without the ability to argue with strangers on Twitter. Shocking, I know. So, no, the internet going down wouldn't magically turn us into Mad-Max like society. Some of us might actually have to, you know, talk to each other face-to-face again. The horror! 

[philipma1957]

My point was the op is pretty ridiculous with the question so I was more ridiculous with my reply

I think you guys do realize that my point is who worries about the entire block chain being halted and no internet>

I don't  worry which is why I do not have an ultra super protected blockchain on paper or a node.

Or on multiple hard drives.

kind of what happens to the blockchain if the sun goes nova?

who cares