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As digital assets like Bitcoin become more acceptable and common across the globe, many investors are already exploring the best possible means of passing their wealth to future generations. One of the suggested solutions is using Bitcoin time locks, which allow funds to be released only after a set date—potentially serving as a decentralized inheritance system. Meaning that a third party's signature would not be needed in the transferring one's inheritance to the offsprings unlike the conventional wills. At first glance, this seems like a perfect way in safeguarding the financial security of one’s offspring without relying on banks or legal intermediaries. However, it also raises critical questions like: - What if the heir loses their private key before the time lock expires? Unlike a traditional will that provides one with the privilege of making changes when necessary, there’s no way to reset or recover lost funds when the private key is lost.
- Can legal systems recognize a Bitcoin-based inheritance? Would governments eventually regulate or challenge the legitimacy of self-executing digital wills? And in a case where the legitimacy is challenged, what could be the way out?
- What if circumstances change? Traditional wills allow for modifications, but a time-locked Bitcoin transaction is irreversible. If the heir passes away before the release date or the will-maker changes their mind, could there be a solution in recovering the assets? Like what could happen next?
- Could future technological shifts make old Bitcoin addresses unusable? Technological evolutions are happening and I don't think the Bitcoin network is an exception to these technological changes. If the Bitcoin network evolves significantly, could older time-locked transactions become inaccessible?
Using Bitcoin time locks for inheritance I personally think is a fascinating idea because it offers a extremely beneficial factors like security, privacy, and autonomy. But does the risk of lost access and the inability to adapt to possible future changes make it too dangerous or discouraging? Should people trust a fully automated system with something as vital as passing down wealth?
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March 28, 2025, 11:13:51 AM Last edit: March 28, 2025, 11:32:42 AM by Joy- maker |
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As digital assets like Bitcoin become more acceptable and common across the globe, many investors are already exploring the best possible means of passing their wealth to future generations. One of the suggested solutions is using Bitcoin time locks, which allow funds to be released only after a set date—potentially serving as a decentralized inheritance system. Meaning that a third party's signature would not be needed in the transferring one's inheritance to the offsprings unlike the conventional wills. At first glance, this seems like a perfect way in safeguarding the financial security of one’s offspring without relying on banks or legal intermediaries. However, it also raises critical questions like: - What if the heir loses their private key before the time lock expires? Unlike a traditional will that provides one with the privilege of making changes when necessary, there’s no way to reset or recover lost funds when the private key is lost.
- Can legal systems recognize a Bitcoin-based inheritance? Would governments eventually regulate or challenge the legitimacy of self-executing digital wills? And in a case where the legitimacy is challenged, what could be the way out?
- What if circumstances change? Traditional wills allow for modifications, but a time-locked Bitcoin transaction is irreversible. If the heir passes away before the release date or the will-maker changes their mind, could there be a solution in recovering the assets? Like what could happen next?
- Could future technological shifts make old Bitcoin addresses unusable? Technological evolutions are happening and I don't think the Bitcoin network is an exception to these technological changes. If the Bitcoin network evolves significantly, could older time-locked transactions become inaccessible?
Using Bitcoin time locks for inheritance I personally think is a fascinating idea because it offers a extremely beneficial factors like security, privacy, and autonomy. But does the risk of lost access and the inability to adapt to possible future changes make it too dangerous or discouraging? Should people trust a fully automated system with something as vital as passing down wealth?
looking at this question of yours bitcoin can be both a smart legacy or a risk gamble when it comes to inheritance, depending on how you approach it. On one hand bitcoin offers a unique combination of accessibility, privacy and security making it an attractive option for inheretance, because with bitcoin one can easily transfer value to beneficiaries across the globe without the need for intermediaries. While on the other hand there are also risks involved, which is lack of technical understanding among heirs, which can lead to deficulties in navigating the complexity of bitcoin ownership, because everything will be complecated, and the volatility of bitcoin price can also be a concern making bitcoin a risk gamble, so you see why I said it be both smart legacy or a risk gamble when it comes to inheritance.
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Using Bitcoin time locks for inheritance I personally think is a fascinating idea because it offers a extremely beneficial factors like security, privacy, and autonomy. But does the risk of lost access and the inability to adapt to possible future changes make it too dangerous or discouraging? Should people trust a fully automated system with something as vital as passing down wealth?
Before deciding to use the time-lock for inheritance, it has to be a decision that has been well thought out by you. You have to understand the risk and know if it is something you are willing to handle. I don't think there is any method of transferring wealth that does not have its own risk, so it is all down to the risks that you can take and accommodate.
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March 28, 2025, 07:22:19 PM |
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Using Bitcoin time locks for inheritance I personally think is a fascinating idea because it offers a extremely beneficial factors like security, privacy, and autonomy. But does the risk of lost access and the inability to adapt to possible future changes make it too dangerous or discouraging? Should people trust a fully automated system with something as vital as passing down wealth?
Before deciding to use the time-lock for inheritance, it has to be a decision that has been well thought out by you. You have to understand the risk and know if it is something you are willing to handle. I don't think there is any method of transferring wealth that does not have its own risk, so it is all down to the risks that you can take and accommodate. ...so it is all down to the risks that you can take and accommodate... This statement I think doesn't just summarize your submission on the subject matter but also reveals how greatly exposed you are. Just like you rightly said, there's no method of transferring wealth that doesn't have its own risks so it's important that one decides on which method is more convenient before making a choice. Good opinion I must say
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March 29, 2025, 04:23:37 PM Last edit: March 29, 2025, 04:34:08 PM by Spaceman1000$ |
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As digital assets like Bitcoin become more acceptable and common across the globe, many investors are already exploring the best possible means of passing their wealth to future generations. One of the suggested solutions is using Bitcoin time locks, which allow funds to be released only after a set date—potentially serving as a decentralized inheritance system. Meaning that a third party's signature would not be needed in the transferring one's inheritance to the offsprings unlike the conventional wills. At first glance, this seems like a perfect way in safeguarding the financial security of one’s offspring without relying on banks or legal intermediaries. However, it also raises critical questions like: - What if the heir loses their private key before the time lock expires? Unlike a traditional will that provides one with the privilege of making changes when necessary, there’s no way to reset or recover lost funds when the private key is lost.
- Can legal systems recognize a Bitcoin-based inheritance? Would governments eventually regulate or challenge the legitimacy of self-executing digital wills? And in a case where the legitimacy is challenged, what could be the way out?
- What if circumstances change? Traditional wills allow for modifications, but a time-locked Bitcoin transaction is irreversible. If the heir passes away before the release date or the will-maker changes their mind, could there be a solution in recovering the assets? Like what could happen next?
- Could future technological shifts make old Bitcoin addresses unusable? Technological evolutions are happening and I don't think the Bitcoin network is an exception to these technological changes. If the Bitcoin network evolves significantly, could older time-locked transactions become inaccessible?
Using Bitcoin time locks for inheritance I personally think is a fascinating idea because it offers a extremely beneficial factors like security, privacy, and autonomy. But does the risk of lost access and the inability to adapt to possible future changes make it too dangerous or discouraging? Should people trust a fully automated system with something as vital as passing down wealth?
What if the heir loses their private key before the time lock expires? Any decision that you've decided to take especially when it involves locking your wallet for a period of time, I think you will have to wait till that time comes to pass regardless of the situation that might occur along the line, that's why you need to be careful when taking something decision. Can legal systems recognize a Bitcoin-based inheritance? Would governments eventually regulate or challenge the legitimacy of self-executing digital wills? And in a case where the legitimacy is challenged, what could be the way out? I don't think there is a way you could challenge an executive digital Will that will be assigned to an heir, because there is high likelihood that the heir to that will, will be only the one to access that will and i believe there will be some backup codes that will help him to achieve that, don't also forget that bitcoin is the centralized and there is little or no effort that the government can really come in to supposedly take charge of that kind of a situation because they are not in control of it. Could future technological shifts make old Bitcoin addresses unusable?Even if there's an paradigm shift from a old Bitcoin address to a new one, there will always be a way to accommodate both the new and the Old together, you cannot say you have a new bitcoin address system and you'll be jettersoning the old addresses.
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This is an interesting idea but as you asked above what if there is an unexpected change in circumstances that might actually require additional funds from the Bitcoin held? Therefore I would not implement a time lock system if I were to leave Bitcoin to my family. Since no one knows who will receive the inheritance in the end, rather than a time lock it would probably be more appropriate for me to want it to be available whenever it is really needed to improve life.
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The heirs should know where the transaction is precisely and you need to only update it in order to take into account as inputs new UTXOS and spent ones that's a bit weird for me. I think it's more simple to leave the passphrase of your seed into a will to be honest, and to hide the seed from the notary of course. Heirs will need to know the seed though but maybe you can leave it with things they will only look into after your death, like a lockable drawer for example.
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This is an interesting idea but as you asked above what if there is an unexpected change in circumstances that might actually require additional funds from the Bitcoin held? Therefore I would not implement a time lock system if I were to leave Bitcoin to my family. Since no one knows who will receive the inheritance in the end, rather than a time lock it would probably be more appropriate for me to want it to be available whenever it is really needed to improve life.
Your reason of not wanting to implement a time lock system is valid but I think there's something you're missing here and that's where you said that "since no one knows who'll receive the inheritance at the end . When you make a will, it's expected that you are going to direct who'll should inherit your belongings in your will so I don't think there's any uncertainty on who'll inherit it at the end.
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- What if the heir loses their private key before the time lock expires?
Was this not part of the reasons why we should always have a back up for storing our keys, in case you have someone who is having his digital asset secured but only on a single storage, then that is another risk because if anything should happen to that single source for back up, everything is gone, we should always keep room for having an alternative in everything we do, in case of being disappointed by any unforeseen circumstances.
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The idea is really interesting. However, I wouldn't want a system that is irreversible in nature. It is very much possible for a heir to die before the time lock expires. It is very much possible that a person changes their mind about sharing the wealth. It is also possible that a sudden emergency arise and the family is in a dire need for money. Life is uncertain. So having an irreversible system is not a wise idea.
It needs to be flexible. Like the traditional wills can be changed any number of times. So if that flexibility is built into the system where the private key holder is allowed to make changes, I think that will be perfect.
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Some of these are indeed interesting questions -- with the exception of the first one: if the key is lost, nothing can be done. You could create some more complicated setups with multisig or a "recovery key", but in the end, all keys could be lost. But that would also be the case if a traditional will is executed on a Bitcoin fortune and the original key is lost. - Can legal systems recognize a Bitcoin-based inheritance? Would governments eventually regulate or challenge the legitimacy of self-executing digital wills? And in a case where the legitimacy is challenged, what could be the way out?
My take on this is that a Bitcoin timelocked transaction would not be a traditional inheritance, but have instead the character of a gift transaction, because it was already created when the original owner was still alive. This may of course not be interpreted this way in all jurisdictions, so the question indeed can be raised. Probably you may be referring to situations where a minimum inheritance e.g. to the children of the deceased person is required. In this case however we have a similar situation than with a house: there's one person in control of the house (the person possessing the keys) and a person which is the legitimate heir, and both may not be the same person. The person holding the BTC thus could be required to transfer part of the BTC to the legitimate heir(s), e.g. the children of the deceased person. - What if circumstances change? Traditional wills allow for modifications, but a time-locked Bitcoin transaction is irreversible.
Timelocked transactions are not irreversible, if they use traditional Locktime then they can always be double-spent. If they use a CLTV or CSV contract then it would be best to create a separate branch to allow for a reversal. - Could future technological shifts make old Bitcoin addresses unusable?
This is indeed possible. There was a discussion recently about "burning" funds vulnerable to quantum computer attacks (when quantum computers become a problem) and a shift of Bitcoin to quantum safe cryptography. However, if the contract is made correctly, then the funds (from the point of view of today) would not be vulnerable because the heir has never spent funds from the address. The timelock should also not be set too far in the future, it's better to renew it every 6 months or so, so any long-term developments putting in danger the funds can be ruled out. As a conclusion, I still think timelocks are a good idea for inheritances, but you should of course not do it without thinking about some of the issues raised in these questions.
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The idea is really interesting. However, I wouldn't want a system that is irreversible in nature. It is very much possible for a heir to die before the time lock expires. It is very much possible that a person changes their mind about sharing the wealth. It is also possible that a sudden emergency arise and the family is in a dire need for money. Life is uncertain. So having an irreversible system is not a wise idea. Because of these instances that you have made, that's why Bitcoin investors must also be smart to consider every possible factors that could stand as a set back for them in the course of the time lock. The Bitcoin times lock is a useful tool but it's not for everyone, before you decide to use it, you must have consider what ever risk you could face and also set up a solution for it, so In case things didn't go as you have estimated it to be, there would be a backup plan already. The instance you gave about the heir dying before the time is over, it doesn't mean that the BTC inheritance can not be passed_on to someone else, all that is needed is your those locked Bitcoin is the private key to the wallets that holds the locked BTC. It needs to be flexible. Like the traditional wills can be changed any number of times. So if that flexibility is built into the system where the private key holder is allowed to make changes, I think that will be perfect.
Any investor that wants flexibility in their will can hold the Bitcoin safe in their wallet and make sure to just protect their wallet private key, so that it doesn't go into the hands of thiefs. That's why I said the time lock is not for everyone.
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The idea is really interesting. However, I wouldn't want a system that is irreversible in nature. It is very much possible for a heir to die before the time lock expires. It is very much possible that a person changes their mind about sharing the wealth. It is also possible that a sudden emergency arise and the family is in a dire need for money. Life is uncertain. So having an irreversible system is not a wise idea.
It needs to be flexible. Like the traditional wills can be changed any number of times. So if that flexibility is built into the system where the private key holder is allowed to make changes, I think that will be perfect.
I understand your points and I also think they're very much valid but it's also important you take note of the fact that the irreversibility is what makes Bitcoin time lock unique. That why the topic contains a question that says "a smart legacy or a risky gamble?". It's now up to you to consider the risks involved in Bitcoin time lock before deciding whether to adopt it as a means of passing your digital assets to your heir or not.
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[...] the irreversibility is what makes Bitcoin time lock unique.
I would phrase that a bit different. If you use Bitcoin's Locktime based mechanisms, then the idea is that nobody should be able to access these coins with the exception of the original owner and the designated heir. The original owner should still be able to move them as long as he's alive. And that's basically what a Locktime based solution provides. It is still unique for Bitcoin, although you can be able to set up a similar cryptographic lock for other electronic goods, too. The characteristic of complete irreversibility would not be an alternative to a classic inheritance. A classic inheritance always lets the original owner of the property benefit from it and change it until he/she dies. A timelocked Bitcoin transaction without ability to be recovered by the original owner would be simply a time-locked gift. It's also not possible to set this up without the possibility that it "unlocks" before the orignal owner dies (with the exception to perhaps setting the expiration date so far into the future that it's far above even the maximum life expectancy of the original owner -- but then it becomes more likely that the heir dies before getting the inheritance).
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The idea is really interesting. However, I wouldn't want a system that is irreversible in nature. It is very much possible for a heir to die before the time lock expires. It is very much possible that a person changes their mind about sharing the wealth. It is also possible that a sudden emergency arise and the family is in a dire need for money. Life is uncertain. So having an irreversible system is not a wise idea.
It needs to be flexible. Like the traditional wills can be changed any number of times. So if that flexibility is built into the system where the private key holder is allowed to make changes, I think that will be perfect.
I understand your points and I also think they're very much valid but it's also important you take note of the fact that the irreversibility is what makes Bitcoin time lock unique. That why the topic contains a question that says "a smart legacy or a risky gamble?". It's now up to you to consider the risks involved in Bitcoin time lock before deciding whether to adopt it as a means of passing your digital assets to your heir or not. As I had mentioned that life is uncertain, I think the current proposition is a risky gamble. The financial condition of a person can worsen he may need the funds to survive. But due to the irreversible nature of the time lock, no one will be able to use the fund before the time expires. Surely it's unique but super risky too. For a billionaire or a multi-millionare, it may not be a problem. But for commoners like us, it's a very different situation.
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As I had mentioned that life is uncertain, I think the current proposition is a risky gamble. The financial condition of a person can worsen he may need the funds to survive. But due to the irreversible nature of the time lock, no one will be able to use the fund before the time expires.
One of the biggest risk I think is accompanied by making your inheritance probably to your kids in form of bitcoin hodlings is the problem of security of those coins. Is difficult sometimes for people to manage a ton of coins they are given when they don't understand the basics of security. With the numbers of vulnerabilities out there on the internet I think one of the most important thing to do aside giving Holdings to loved ones is to make sure they understand how to secure those coins properly because it wouldn't sound proper if they got stolen by some hacker.
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