[Discussion] Seed Storage

[Makus]

Oo well done no be small you don do so, the topic of privacy and security for this space na very important one wey we no supposed let an slide especially when we Dey get guests all over the forum and also for the benefit of some new guys wey just join us. Sometimes some old dude sef need to hear am to remind them say this crypto space no be to go loose guard your resources, because any slight mistakes fit make one hacker sweep you reach ground, so na to use wisdom for this side make other no use you learn lesson. As I Dey read I come across post wey say email get strong encryption. The truth na be say any internet storage medium na cast for this side, because the biggest mistake wey any bitcoin or crypto enthusiasts fit make na to go store em seed phrase for internet. E Dey really easy for hackers to brute force email password especially when e no too strong, even small scammers sef Dey hack email naim we Dey talk Dey go far.

[promise444c5]

The truth na be say any internet storage medium na cast for this side, because the biggest mistake wey any bitcoin or crypto enthusiasts fit make na to go store em seed phrase for internet. E Dey really easy for hackers to brute force email password especially when e no too strong, even small scammers sef Dey hack email naim we Dey talk Dey go far.

That being said, even an hack on your email can possess a serious threat for you(not only your data)...  for additional security enable two factor authentications on your email providers, if it supports it for example google mail ( Gmail) supports two factor authentication, yet sensitive data shouldn't be stored on email. Although  email can still be used to request change of password for some service but without some sensitive datas it might take a while, thus prompting you to take necessary actions before the damage will be done, that doesn't still means some damage won't still be done( it's one worse event to experience) 

[Coyster]

But it is not advisable to keep vital information there and it is good to store your seed in the local way of paper or airgapped wallet.

Na your wallet file you go store for airgapped device, but that is not your backup na, you have to backup your seed phrase offline. Having an airgapped wallet is not a substitute for your backup, just the same way as having a hardware wallet does not mean you won't back up your seed phrase, these are two different things.

To answer the OP: If person dey live alone and you mostly live a quiet life, storing your seed phrase on a paper poses little risk, but if you are worried of fire and other stuffs that can damage a paper, then na to use stainless steel backup.

[Makus]

The truth na be say any internet storage medium na cast for this side, because the biggest mistake wey any bitcoin or crypto enthusiasts fit make na to go store em seed phrase for internet. E Dey really easy for hackers to brute force email password especially when e no too strong, even small scammers sef Dey hack email naim we Dey talk Dey go far.

That being said, even an hack on your email can possess a serious threat for you(not only your data)...  for additional security enable two factor authentications on your email providers, if it supports it for example google mail ( Gmail) supports two factor authentication, yet sensitive data shouldn't be stored on email. Although  email can still be used to request change of password for some service but without some sensitive datas it might take a while, thus prompting you to take necessary actions before the damage will be done, that doesn't still means some damage won't still be done( it's one worse event to experience) 

Absolutely, so as it stands email be like two edge sword the same way e dey important as backup or authentication to some sensitive information by all means  na still the same amount of damage  e fit cause  if hacker get hold of am. I Don hear of multiple cases why dem wipe person money from account just by gaining access  to the person email, that na why I support  your idea of using two factor authentication to protect your email, and the same time use better password. Normally the two factory authentication na your Sim  you still dey use take run that one, and I gi still advise make una encrypt una Sim card, just like the way we been dey do when we dey use button phones. Till today I still dey lock my Sim card because  if person fit gain access  thief my phone with just my Sim card dem go fit gain access  to all my microfinance banks and we know where that one go end, so the topic of security  na very important  one wey we no suppose to joke with for this life.

[Sonia_123]

Recently, I noticed there’re more newbies and more awareness about the usage of cold storage on the forum, so I thought about bringing back the discussion:
What could be the suitable method for storing Seed Phrases in Nigeria?

Yeah, we will be discussing suitable methods that can be used in Nigeria.
Here’s what I was able to come up with from my side.
Seed on a piece of paper is common, but if we want to store our Seed Phrases in Nigeria, we still need to consider some conditions before choosing a perfect method that would work.
Among them are:

• Considering how people around you (family) could be illiterate about it, and somehow you might end up losing it to a trash bag or it might just be tossed away if eventually found someday. at the same time it still needs to be less spooky incase it falls in the wrong hands
• One of the common rodents in Nigeria is the rat, and most people prefer just writing their seed on a piece of paper. Rats eat paper and related materials, so if you are in an environment with the possibility of rats, then you might want to reconsider the usage of paper.
• Environmental hazards like floods and fires are also common and need to be considered. Also, in cases of paper, water spillage can also ruin things.

There’re others to be considered too, but with these few points, we should already be able to come up with a better way. Still, I know there is no perfect way to store seed phrases, which is why I want us to discuss it.
What methods do we use as individuals or think could be a little bit perfect (of course it can’t be totally perfect) to store our seeds as Nigerians? Adding other conditions to consider is also welcome.

Here’s what I found on my side:
Having a seed phrase on a steel metal plate - at least this could withstand heat and somehow doesn’t look like garbage(to someone that could be illiterate to it) in case it’s found, and it can withstand fire to some extent. Water damage is less of a concern too. It won’t still be safe in case of flooding,Moises can be of a concern little because  of rusting but it’s a good methd IMO.

visual look, having it in a key holder (in order or numbered) for storage

Let’s share our ideas as a discussion too. Corrections and additions are also welcom..

Nice job Op Well-done for those that will really want to do these key holder , you will hardly know that it's a seed phrase written on it, well protected, waterproof and customized, no need for writing on paper that can be soiled at any time or mistakenly torn at any point in time easily accessible also not easily misplaced.

[Charles-Tim]

Nice job Op Well-done for those that will really want to do these key holder , you will hardly know that it's a seed phrase written on it, well protected, waterproof and customized, no need for writing on paper that can be soiled at any time or mistakenly torn at any point in time easily accessible also not easily misplaced.

Having a seed phrase on a key holder is not recommended at all, especially if you will be carrying the key holder about. If your coin is stolen as fast as possible, do not be surprised. It would be good if promise444c5 change it to a better metal (stainless steel or titanium) seed phrase backup that can be recommended.

[promise444c5]

Nice job Op Well-done for those that will really want to do these key holder , you will hardly know that it's a seed phrase written on it, well protected, waterproof and customized, no need for writing on paper that can be soiled at any time or mistakenly torn at any point in time easily accessible also not easily misplaced.

Having a seed phrase on a key holder is not recommended at all, especially if you will be carrying the key holder about. If your coin is stolen as fast as possible, do not be surprised. It would be good if promise444c5 change it to a better metal (stainless steel or titanium) seed phrase backup that can be recommended.

Well , I think they are all getting the concept of "key-holder" wrong here,I already tried  explaining the role  in my previous comment..
Generally, key holder are meant to hold keys together as one instead of separate pieces,now it left for user to carry it around or not. Same here, the keyholder is just to hold this plates together, doesn't necessarily have to be a keyholder, could be any type of holder or container to keep them all as a group and not scattered  as parts  could be misplaced easily, then stored in a safe place after and  not to be carried around.
I will also add it as a note on the thread to prevent  confusions too.

[Palvictor06]

Recently, I noticed there’re more newbies and more awareness about the usage of cold storage on the forum, so I thought about bringing back the discussion:
What could be the suitable method for storing Seed Phrases in Nigeria?

Yeah, we will be discussing suitable methods that can be used in Nigeria.
Here’s what I was able to come up with from my side.
Seed on a piece of paper is common, but if we want to store our Seed Phrases in Nigeria, we still need to consider some conditions before choosing a perfect method that would work.
Among them are:

• Considering how people around you (family) could be illiterate about it, and somehow you might end up losing it to a trash bag or it might just be tossed away if eventually found someday. at the same time it still needs to be less spooky incase it falls in the wrong hands
• One of the common rodents in Nigeria is the rat, and most people prefer just writing their seed on a piece of paper. Rats eat paper and related materials, so if you are in an environment with the possibility of rats, then you might want to reconsider the usage of paper.
• Environmental hazards like floods and fires are also common and need to be considered. Also, in cases of paper, water spillage can also ruin things.

There’re others to be considered too, but with these few points, we should already be able to come up with a better way. Still, I know there is no perfect way to store seed phrases, which is why I want us to discuss it.
What methods do we use as individuals or think could be a little bit perfect (of course it can’t be totally perfect) to store our seeds as Nigerians? Adding other conditions to consider is also welcome.

Here’s what I found on my side:
Having a seed phrase on a steel metal plate - at least this could withstand heat and somehow doesn’t look like garbage(to someone that could be illiterate to it) in case it’s found, and it can withstand fire to some extent. Water damage is less of a concern too. It won’t still be safe in case of flooding,Moises can be of a concern little because  of rusting but it’s a good methd IMO.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/12/xtBBJ.jpeg
visual look, having it in a key holder (in order or numbered) for storage
Note: Key-holder as used in the image above was only used for holding the plates together, it's not meant to be carried around like normal keys, it's meant to be stored in a safe place instead, carryingarround will only increase the chance of losing it .. That being said , it's better numbered (the plates) in order to prevent future confusion as well.

Let’s share our ideas as a discussion too. Corrections and additions are also welcom..

Consider storing your seed phrases in multiple locations to ensure you can recover them if one location is compromised.

[Sim_card]

Nice job Op Well-done for those that will really want to do these key holder , you will hardly know that it's a seed phrase written on it, well protected, waterproof and customized, no need for writing on paper that can be soiled at any time or mistakenly torn at any point in time easily accessible also not easily misplaced.

Having a seed phrase on a key holder is not recommended at all, especially if you will be carrying the key holder about. If your coin is stolen as fast as possible, do not be surprised. It would be good if promise444c5 change it to a better metal (stainless steel or titanium) seed phrase backup that can be recommended.

Well , I think they are all getting the concept of "key-holder" wrong here,I already tried  explaining the role  in my previous comment..
Generally, key holder are meant to hold keys together as one instead of separate pieces,now it left for user to carry it around or not. Same here, the keyholder is just to hold this plates together, doesn't necessarily have to be a keyholder, could be any type of holder or container to keep them all as a group and not scattered  as parts  could be misplaced easily, then stored in a safe place after and  not to be carried around.
I will also add it as a note on the thread to prevent  confusions too.

Your seed phrase shouldn't be like the way it is on the picture in the OP, because it's easy for children to place their hands on key holder to play with. If you keep the key holder in a safe place without moving it around will be nice. However, engraving it an a steel plate is very good. The most important thing is that you keep it safe from third party because it doesn't matter where you write your seed phrase on be it on paper or metal steel plate.

[Makus]

Nice job Op Well-done for those that will really want to do these key holder , you will hardly know that it's a seed phrase written on it, well protected, waterproof and customized, no need for writing on paper that can be soiled at any time or mistakenly torn at any point in time easily accessible also not easily misplaced.

Having a seed phrase on a key holder is not recommended at all, especially if you will be carrying the key holder about. If your coin is stolen as fast as possible, do not be surprised. It would be good if promise444c5 change it to a better metal (stainless steel or titanium) seed phrase backup that can be recommended.

Well , I think they are all getting the concept of "key-holder" wrong here,I already tried  explaining the role  in my previous comment..
Generally, key holder are meant to hold keys together as one instead of separate pieces,now it left for user to carry it around or not. Same here, the keyholder is just to hold this plates together, doesn't necessarily have to be a keyholder, could be any type of holder or container to keep them all as a group and not scattered  as parts  could be misplaced easily, then stored in a safe place after and  not to be carried around.
I will also add it as a note on the thread to prevent  confusions too.

Your seed phrase shouldn't be like the way it is on the picture in the OP, because it's easy for children to place their hands on key holder to play with. If you keep the key holder in a safe place without moving it around will be nice. However, engraving it an a steel plate is very good. The most important thing is that you keep it safe from third party because it doesn't matter where you write your seed phrase on be it on paper or metal steel plate.

That is why in the op's he stated that it should be stored in a safe place probably in a safe that can be encrypted. The idea Is actually  a nice one and I must say that I'm  impressed, but the only draw back is to get a metal That doesn't corode easily. Because for securities like this, the seed phrase could be kept in a the safe or the storage medium for years, so in other to not lost the information  that is crested on the plate we'll need a metal that doesn't  corode easily. It's a much advanced technique to storing our mnemonic seed rather than making use of paper to write them down. Paper could be easily eaten by cockroaches or other insects that find interest in it.

[Coyster]

Consider storing your seed phrases in multiple locations to ensure you can recover them if one location is compromised.

It makes sense to keep your seed phrase in multiple locations, but the thing be say no be everybody get more than one home wey dem fit keep their seed phrase. To be able to keep your seed phrase in multiple locations you need to have different locations that you can keep your seed phrase in the first place and it will be safe.

That said, hope say you know that if one location is compromised and your seed phrase gets exposed, make you know say you don lose your money be that, so e better say you add passphrase to your seed phrase to be more secure.

[promise444c5]

Your seed phrase shouldn't be like the way it is on the picture in the OP, because it's easy for children to place their hands on key holder to play with. If you keep the key holder in a safe place without moving it around will be nice.

Well , from the comments have been seeing so far, I could tell we are all used  to keyholder been a normal keys for households, cars  and lots more.
I already added a  Note Section on the thread to explain  the "keyholder" thingy and yes it's meant to be kept in a safe place.

...but the only draw back is to get a metal That doesn't corode easily. Because for securities like this, the seed phrase could be kept in a the safe or the storage medium for years, so in other to not lost the information  that is crested on the plate we'll need a metal that doesn't  corode easily.

Well you have a good point regarding  that,  the option is to get a material that won't corode easily, Titanium or Alumnized steel  is a good option but other factors can be considered as well, like how deep the engrave gets plus the storage, moist could cause corrosion, a cool and dry storage could prevent that..