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April 22, 2025, 03:08:46 PM
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I think it should be a more balanced decision, taking into account what proportion of the bet we are going to double, our morale, our willingness to take risks, and also predict how upset we will be if we lose or win this bet and get joy from it. I think all this together should give us a better decision whether to double or not our bet at this moment. Sometimes I may not do it, and on another day I will do it differently, so there is no universal answer to this question, we always have to consider individually, based on many specific conditions of each player.

Individual approach, how to double in case of loss, but as soon as I win I immediately return to the usual bet? Of course you can do this, but in case of a series of losses you can lose the entire deposit and this can happen quite quickly. My position in this approach is unchanged, I am against doubling the bet, no matter whether it was a loss or a win, you can win the next bet, without doubling and this will cover your previous loss and it will be much safer than doubling every time you lose.
There is no guarantee of winning when you double your bet, so why will you take a double risk at the same time instead of managing your risks and quit the game after losing. Whoever doubles his bet after a loss is only gambling for profit and lacks bankroll management, because his actions will lead him to excessive loss within a short time. I enjoy gambling the normal way, and quit the game when I am on a losing streak.

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April 22, 2025, 03:20:12 PM
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Bankroll management with a fixed amount can feel boring sometimes, that’s why we get tempted to switch it up and try different betting styles. Not quite Martingale, but upping the stakes occasionally definitely adds more thrill.

Between the two options, which one do you think actually delivers more wins than losses in the long run for you?
None of the above, I will always maintain a steady or static bet amount or bankroll when gambling, whether I win or lose, and this is because doubling my bankroll when I win is very risky, risky in the sense that after a win, what mostly will follow is a lose, it makes no sense to win and then immediately lose it back because of some greedy expectations which may turn far different from the way I had thought it out.

And also speaking on losing, this is even worst, one could be going through a losing streak and double your bankroll after every loss is nothing but you willingly burning your money, I Wil not try this..

In a situation where I am forced to choose one between the two, I will rather go with doubling my bankroll after a win, than doubling after a loss.

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April 22, 2025, 03:26:02 PM
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It's the same, just opposite. Double when you win brings lots of small losses and the occasional big win when you hit a streak. Double when you lose is lots of small wins and occasional huge loss.

They're both the same really, just depends on your preference. Neither means anything at all in the long run. It'll wind up the same as flat betting or betting completely random amounts.

Both can lead to losses but there's a certain extent to which doubling your stakes when winning can lead to, it can be more controlled compared to when you are doubling your stakes when you are losing..The emotional states are different and this plays a major factor, when you lose as a gambler If you are the type that lacks discipline it might lead to a whole lot of losses...The scale and impact of one is greater than the other even though they can lead to similar outcomes.

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April 22, 2025, 03:42:36 PM
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Both can add to the thrill but we can't lie to ourselves that it can also add to the tension and risk of losing more money.

Another thing is honestly I can't choose which option can provide more benefits because in gambling there is no certainty or guarantee regardless of the strategy you use.

It all depends on how lucky you are when playing, so never put too much hope no matter how good the method you use.

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April 22, 2025, 03:53:13 PM
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I don't do either of the two because it somehow messes with my head as time progress as it exposes me to greed which destroys a gambler. If you win, a losing streak will reset your head and make your balance vanish. On the other hand, if you double when you lose, just few more loses and you are broke. My pattern is to budget the amount I want to lose for the day and when I hit that amount, I'm done for the day. In the case of winning, when I hit major win, I withdraw my money and leave the account with the same amount I started with for the day. I cannot afford to give back the winning, that will hunt me badly.

If not that gambling requires the deepest thinking's and strategies from gamblers,I could wonder why these strategies are beneficial or even needed to gamble.Obviously,I assume that's where the thrill and excitement in gambling lies.
Because What is gambling without it's competitive strategies that makes the gambling experience more interesting and meaningful.

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April 22, 2025, 04:46:44 PM
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I think it should be a more balanced decision, taking into account what proportion of the bet we are going to double, our morale, our willingness to take risks, and also predict how upset we will be if we lose or win this bet and get joy from it. I think all this together should give us a better decision whether to double or not our bet at this moment. Sometimes I may not do it, and on another day I will do it differently, so there is no universal answer to this question, we always have to consider individually, based on many specific conditions of each player.

Individual approach, how to double in case of loss, but as soon as I win I immediately return to the usual bet? Of course you can do this, but in case of a series of losses you can lose the entire deposit and this can happen quite quickly. My position in this approach is unchanged, I am against doubling the bet, no matter whether it was a loss or a win, you can win the next bet, without doubling and this will cover your previous loss and it will be much safer than doubling every time you lose.
There is no guarantee of winning when you double your bet, so why will you take a double risk at the same time instead of managing your risks and quit the game after losing. Whoever doubles his bet after a loss is only gambling for profit and lacks bankroll management, because his actions will lead him to excessive loss within a short time. I enjoy gambling the normal way, and quit the game when I am on a losing streak.

You're right, just winning once at a gambling casino is difficult to achieve, the one who wants to get lucky by playing gambling is unpredictable, how much more can it be to double the winnings obtained by playing gambling, right?

Because if you double the winnings, it will turn out that you are really greedy, it seems that you don't think about giving away what you have, instead they think more about increasing it or doubling it, which is not a good mindset for a gambler. This mindset is what makes casino players addicted to gambling.
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April 22, 2025, 04:55:11 PM
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I think both options depend on the courage of a gambler the two way nature of gambling the possibility of winning and losing makes it even more dangerous when decisions are made on the basis of emotion. Despite the reliance on luck the key to responsible gambling is to control one's emotions set a budget and not chase losses in the rush to recover quickly after a loss players lose their normal judgment. It should be remembered that gambling is for entertainment, and one should not try to increase the bet after losing.

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April 22, 2025, 10:35:32 PM
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that’s why we get tempted to switch it up and try different betting styles. Not quite Martingale, but upping the stakes occasionally definitely adds more thrill.

This was what I did that made me lost all my money after winning a parlay of 3 and 4 game each twice. I won the first parlay, 3 games and was happy, I took another parlay and won that one but the last game, the odd was small and the game was live already, so I was very confident that the game will be successful and I used all the money I previously won to stake in that game, just two games, the first game made me lost everything. That's why, in gambling just be prepared for anything you see.
First of all, welcome back.
You just have to know when to stop gambling my friend. I don't want to imagine how much you must have won after winning the first bet and then the second. Are you saying the money won was not enough for you to stop at that moment. Sometimes we blame our loss on the type of strategy, or a particular action done but deep down we all know the truth. It is greed that or the inability to be satisfied regardless of how much we win in gambling. Perhaps if you had won the third bet you will surely gamble again the fourth times.

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Bankroll management with a fixed amount can feel boring sometimes, that’s why we get tempted to switch it up and try different betting styles. Not quite Martingale, but upping the stakes occasionally definitely adds more thrill.

Between the two options, which one do you think actually delivers more wins than losses in the long run for you?
Sometimes I go both ways and if I am lucky I make it out happier, what I do is that when I win, I take off 50% of the profit and the other 50% will be added to my bankroll and staked for the next bet, sometimes I lose all in the process but other times I win and double my bankroll, so it is what it is since gambling is all about luck, you either win or lose and your rewards is based on your amount of risk.


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I think both options depend on the courage of a gambler the two way nature of gambling the possibility of winning and losing makes it even more dangerous when decisions are made on the basis of emotion. Despite the reliance on luck the key to responsible gambling is to control one's emotions set a budget and not chase losses in the rush to recover quickly after a loss players lose their normal judgment. It should be remembered that gambling is for entertainment, and one should not try to increase the bet after losing.
As long as the doubling lies within the budget, that is fine. So, double when you win or lose as long as it's still part of the budget then doing it is not a problem at all. But the problem starts is when you've got nothing left at all and yet, you're still doubling everything and does the martingale then it will lead to a huge problem and if people sees you doing that. It is possible that they'd call you as problematic gambler for doubling everything when you've got nothing left anymore in your pockets. Many does this but we hate to admit it that we did it also before when we're out of control.


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Bankroll management with a fixed amount can feel boring sometimes, that’s why we get tempted to switch it up and try different betting styles. Not quite Martingale, but upping the stakes occasionally definitely adds more thrill.

Between the two options, which one do you think actually delivers more wins than losses in the long run for you?

Thats a tough one,  long term though I'd say double when you win. When you're on a streak and you're feeling good and are on a jody high roller kinda night I just feel like those always play out pretty good for me. Trying to double up after a loss is painful and if you lose again you're cooked.
I am not sure if we can double when you win especially if we already hit some money. We really need luck to double our money from our winning so you need to think twice before deciding. It need a feeling of satisfying to say that is enough for the win and not have the will to double the win money. We know that will not easy and we may think to stop gambling and withdraw the money. That is better way to do for those who can realize they don't have much luck left. But if you still want to double your money while you are win or loss, you need to think and considering so you will not regret with the result.

It's always probably the smarter thing to go home, take the money, and run! Name that song. I think that the odds of winning are slim but if you play the numbers game and take your chances are one day you could get lucky! You just have to believe it honestly imo. Only way you're gonna win. So if you don't feel that way don't play!

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April 23, 2025, 07:04:27 AM
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Both can add to the thrill but we can't lie to ourselves that it can also add to the tension and risk of losing more money.

Another thing is honestly I can't choose which option can provide more benefits because in gambling there is no certainty or guarantee regardless of the strategy you use.

It all depends on how lucky you are when playing, so never put too much hope no matter how good the method you use.
This is a very good point/take on the discussion, some usually see things like this as a strategy that should help them to win, but I believe those who believe in things like this are usually newbies, a gambler with good experience already know that there are no guarantees in gambling and things like this can either lead to excitement or lead to sadness depending on the gamblers believe and expectations.

It's better not to try such at all except when one has alot of money to possible waste, then he or she can go ahead to try any of this and be well prepared for whatever the out come may likely be.
It's true that some gamblers may be lucky enough and come up profitable simply by doing something like this, but then the truth is majority end up losing, and if you are a gambler who is not sure of your luck, and not ready to add any extra risk to your money, then don't try any of this.

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It's always probably the smarter thing to go home, take the money, and run! Name that song. I think that the odds of winning are slim but if you play the numbers game and take your chances are one day you could get lucky! You just have to believe it honestly imo. Only way you're gonna win. So if you don't feel that way don't play!
I am following your advice Grin

Take the money and run will be the best thing that we can do so we can enjoy the winnings. Besides that, we can back to gambling after we take a rest so we don't get affect or tempt from the gambling.

Yes, another suggestion would be don't play if you don't want to lose money. Unfortunately, many people still playing gambling even they know the risk. That's because the temptation from gambling is too big and they can't hold themselves to chase the win.

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Both can add to the thrill but we can't lie to ourselves that it can also add to the tension and risk of losing more money.

Another thing is honestly I can't choose which option can provide more benefits because in gambling there is no certainty or guarantee regardless of the strategy you use.

It all depends on how lucky you are when playing, so never put too much hope no matter how good the method you use.
This is a very good point/take on the discussion, some usually see things like this as a strategy that should help them to win, but I believe those who believe in things like this are usually newbies, a gambler with good experience already know that there are no guarantees in gambling and things like this can either lead to excitement or lead to sadness depending on the gamblers believe and expectations.

It's better not to try such at all except when one has alot of money to possible waste, then he or she can go ahead to try any of this and be well prepared for whatever the out come may likely be.
It's true that some gamblers may be lucky enough and come up profitable simply by doing something like this, but then the truth is majority end up losing, and if you are a gambler who is not sure of your luck, and not ready to add any extra risk to your money, then don't try any of this.

Yes, so from my previous statement you can conclude that I am not a beginner (it does not mean I am great at predictions, my friend Grin), the difference is that I can already predict what will most likely happen when a gambler tries one or even both of the options mentioned by the OP above.

There is no guarantee or even certainty that doubling your money when you win will give you a bigger win, and vice versa, doubling the bet when you lose is not a solution to recover the situation.

I also agree with you, the point is that winning in gambling does not depend on anything other than luck, and disappointment or stress depends on how high your expectations and hopes are.

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It's always probably the smarter thing to go home, take the money, and run! Name that song. I think that the odds of winning are slim but if you play the numbers game and take your chances are one day you could get lucky! You just have to believe it honestly imo. Only way you're gonna win. So if you don't feel that way don't play!
I am following your advice Grin

Take the money and run will be the best thing that we can do so we can enjoy the winnings. Besides that, we can back to gambling after we take a rest so we don't get affect or tempt from the gambling.

Yes, another suggestion would be don't play if you don't want to lose money. Unfortunately, many people still playing gambling even they know the risk. That's because the temptation from gambling is too big and they can't hold themselves to chase the win.

When you get back will be your another problem because you might lose again what you won before if you become trigger when you encounter losing streak.

Casino is relying to players that will keep coming back because pf the game house edge that will make the casino profitable in long term.

As long as you keep coming you might suffer a greater loss despite winning on some of your game.


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I think it should be a more balanced decision, taking into account what proportion of the bet we are going to double, our morale, our willingness to take risks, and also predict how upset we will be if we lose or win this bet and get joy from it. I think all this together should give us a better decision whether to double or not our bet at this moment. Sometimes I may not do it, and on another day I will do it differently, so there is no universal answer to this question, we always have to consider individually, based on many specific conditions of each player.

Individual approach, how to double in case of loss, but as soon as I win I immediately return to the usual bet? Of course you can do this, but in case of a series of losses you can lose the entire deposit and this can happen quite quickly. My position in this approach is unchanged, I am against doubling the bet, no matter whether it was a loss or a win, you can win the next bet, without doubling and this will cover your previous loss and it will be much safer than doubling every time you lose.
There is no guarantee of winning when you double your bet, so why will you take a double risk at the same time instead of managing your risks and quit the game after losing. Whoever doubles his bet after a loss is only gambling for profit and lacks bankroll management, because his actions will lead him to excessive loss within a short time. I enjoy gambling the normal way, and quit the game when I am on a losing streak.
You should also remember that with double the risk there will be a double chance of profit. Most gamblers expect double the profit and most of the time instead of having fun. Our freedom can sometimes go against us and we can lose and lose more money. To effectively manage your bankroll you should have a plan of action such as if you are determined not to exceed your limits and to stop playing after you lose or win.

Trying to enjoy gambling helps you to effectively manage your bankroll and you may be tempted to refrain from making any emotional decisions and successfully manage the action. Success in gambling is how much you can control yourself and how much you can control your emotions.











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April 23, 2025, 05:30:39 PM
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Bankroll management with a fixed amount can feel boring sometimes, that’s why we get tempted to switch it up and try different betting styles. Not quite Martingale, but upping the stakes occasionally definitely adds more thrill.

Between the two options, which one do you think actually delivers more wins than losses in the long run for you?

Double when you win? We already win or we already have a win and we want to double it? And for this to happen, the gambler will continue to play at the casino. Right?
Doesn't this seem like an obvious display of greed for money?

I can't imagine, let's say I won 10 000$ in casino gambling, because my capital that I entered at the casino was 10 000$ in short, it is necessary for me to exit that my winnings must be
around 20 000$, this seems to be the understanding. Maybe there are only a few gamblers like this.
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April 23, 2025, 05:31:26 PM
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Double when I win" works better for me because it keeps me calm and in control. The opposite strategy which is doubling after a loss can spiral quickly. One double becomes another, discipline goes out the window, and... well, you know how that ends.

But here's the thing... no strategy guarantees long-term success. What truly matters is our ability to handicap games. If we’re sharp at that, almost any bankroll method can work as long as discipline stays rock-solid.

Those that have experienced the damage of chasing losses can relate to this. Doubling when you win comes with luck sometimes the worst that can happen is losing what you have won. Chasing your losses on the other hand can be very damaging because you can keep funding your bet account till everything you have is gone completely, it's hard to keep our impulses under control when this happens. Whichever the case maybe it still boils down to how disciplined you are.

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April 23, 2025, 08:49:42 PM
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Combine both options depending on my own feeling and guts. Both options are risky so we should be ready to accept the fact that if we lose it, we should not regret our decision. Double when you win may give us bigger win when we are lucky while double when we lose may recover our previous lose but at the same time both options may lead us into a complete loss. Any decision has its own consequence so ask ourselves whether we can take the consequences or not before we decide what to do.
Someone who considers themselves a responsible gambler wouldn't have any problems if they combine both options because they would know that whatever happens, they are not going to lose it and start betting recklessly after that because if someone has low self-patience, they are going to get mad if they double their bet and then lose it, and then they might try doubling it again to see if they can recover the previously lost funds but they might lose again, and this can lead to nothing but destruction.

If someone is responsible and calm, they can do it only to see what happens whether they do it after a loss or a win, they know that whatever happens, they are going to get back to their original betting pattern instead of getting angry or frustrated and try recovering everything with a single bet and then losing it all.

That's why I think such a thing can only suite someone who has enough self-control.

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April 23, 2025, 09:09:04 PM
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These 'money management' systems are trash. They are the fastest way to lose your bankroll.

Speaking from experience, it's important to come up with your unique system based on the bankroll. I tend to use a 'point system' For example, if I have $1000 to spend, I can have a point based on $20 bet. Depending on how I asses the risk, I can stake 1 point, 2 points, 3 points, 4 points, etc. It works best when it comes to sports betting and not casino games.
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