Trump coercing Universities - now claiming "Harvard letter" was not true

[paxmao]

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2025/04/19/harvard-trump-administration-higher-education-battle/83140651007/

Harvard pushed back hard this week on the White House's efforts to influence its campus. Its defiance seemed to give permission to other colleges to do the same.

“Harvard’s objections,” wrote Stanford University’s president and provost the next day, “are rooted in the American tradition of liberty, a tradition essential to our country’s universities, and worth defending.”

“Princeton stands with Harvard,” said the president of the school's New Jersey counterpart.

Even the president of Columbia University – another Ivy League university, which has tried (unsuccessfully) to oblige similar government demands – seemed to offer her support to Harvard.

But what is exactly that Trump is trying to force down the throats of the education giants of the US?

in the wake of protests sparked by the Israel-Hamas war. Federal funding, his administration has argued, must be contingent on universities following civil rights laws and curbing antisemitic incidents.

Now, the definition of anti-Semitic may be quite different from attacking Hebrews or Jews as such. A protest against the actions of Israel in Gaza can be considered "antisemitic enough" and get students reported and expelled from the US.

Michael Roth, the president of Wesleyan University, a private liberal arts college in Connecticut. "Federal funding for universities must not depend on a loyalty oath."

Some Unis are all about the money and are ok to exchange meat for money:

Columbia University, for instance, largely agreed to a set of reforms the Trump administration laid out as a condition for restoring $400 million in federal funding. The university, among other things, ousted its president, committed to altering its student protest policies and said it would appoint a new administrator to oversee its Middle Eastern Studies department.

But if Harvard can put a front together, it may be enough to stop the non-sensical approach of Trump to law (students=bad, 6th protetesters=free).

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/apr/19/harvard-trump-administration-timeline

t took Harvard University less than 72 hours to reject a series of demands put forth by the Trump administration, setting up a high-stakes showdown between the US’s wealthiest and oldest university and the White House.

Following the weekend meeting, the Cambridge city council passed a unanimous resolution urging Harvard to reject Trump’s demands, and to “use all measures possible, including the University’s endowment funds, if necessary, to safeguard academic independence, the rule of law, and democracy”.

The letter included a list of sweeping demands – the shuttering of all diversity, equity and inclusion programs and initiatives, restrictions on the acceptance of international students who are “hostile to the American values and institutions”, and federal oversight of admissions, hiring and the ideology of students and staff and more.

Harvard officials were stunned by the demands in the letter, the Wall Street Journal reported, viewing them as more extreme than those sent to other schools. A Sunday board meeting ended in unanimous agreement on how to respond.

You know a dictator when you see one.

And then... they back up. A letter, with the US goverment headline, signed by several US officials is apparently...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harvard-letter-mistake-b2736120.html

Trump administration’s letter of demands to Harvard that sparked standoff ‘sent without authorization’ - report

However...

The White House is standing by the letter and its sweeping demands. The administration alleges the university has failed to tackle antisemitism on campus.

[jvanname]

This is what I think of the HIV league.

Princeton-prison
Yale-Jail
U Penn-The Penitentiary
Cornell-Porn Hell
Brown-The color of shit.
Dartmouth-Fart Mouth
Columbia-CUNY-CUNT-The other city college of New York-The other shitty college of New York.
Harvard-Putting the H in the HIV league.

Hmm. Everything Trump says against universities is completely sensible especially since universities have become intellectual wastelands where people get indoctrinated into becoming senseless retards. Universities need to apologize for promoting violence against me, but they won't because they are fucked up. A university with secret admissions criteria is a fucking scam, and only fucking idiot would fall for this. Colleges and prisons should merge because they are basically the same thing.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[franky1]

from what i have looked into

the federal government did write to Harvard and made some demands.. however a second letter was sent again, which Harvard took as a doubling down reminder threat of what the fed expects from Harvard... however trump admits the first letter is true and real and what the fed wants to see Harvard make adjustments to.. but the second letter was sent as a mistake and not to be taken as a reminder-threat

my opinion on the matter
i see as part of trumps plans to just abolish the federal level of the department of education.. harvard will have to rely on Massachusetts state level treasury for funding, which could actually be a big boost to Massachusetts, as many national and international businesses that want to invest in Harvard scholarships can then boost Massachusetts without the fed level stuff middle-manning everything

so in essence, get rid of the fed level funding. and let Harvard just meet state level standards or international level standards(depending on international funding arrangements)

other states that want to offer scholarships can separately fund such or pay into a Massachusetts state level fund, again boosting Massachusetts state level government

as for the demands
well if a student is screaming (preaching on campus) of violent threats or asking others to cause harm or damage.. then yes harvard should deal with that student with harsh consequence
if however its just talking about personal beliefs. well, give them a mentor or advisor to ensure then dont go rogue/radical

as for the curriculum.. if its for instance IT/coding.. then just teach the kids to code apps and software.. not how to self mutilate their body and tell their parents their son is dead and now they have a fully grown daughter.. coding is about computer code not culture reprogramming
lecturers should stick the the subject that the students signed upto. not turn all courses into cultural appropriation of some new radical viral trend

[paxmao]

from what i have looked into

the federal government did write to Harvard and made some demands.. however a second letter was sent again, which Harvard took as a doubling down reminder threat of what the fed expects from Harvard... however trump admits the first letter is true and real and what the fed wants to see Harvard make adjustments to.. but the second letter was sent as a mistake and not to be taken as a reminder-threat

my opinion on the matter
i see as part of trumps plans to just abolish the federal level of the department of education.. harvard will have to rely on Massachusetts state level treasury for funding, which could actually be a big boost to Massachusetts, as many national and international businesses that want to invest in Harvard scholarships can then boost Massachusetts without the fed level stuff middle-manning everything

so in essence, get rid of the fed level funding. and let Harvard just meet state level standards or international level standards(depending on international funding arrangements)

other states that want to offer scholarships can separately fund such or pay into a Massachusetts state level fund, again boosting Massachusetts state level government

as for the demands
well if a student is screaming (preaching on campus) of violent threats or asking others to cause harm or damage.. then yes harvard should deal with that student with harsh consequence
if however its just talking about personal beliefs. well, give them a mentor or advisor to ensure then dont go rogue/radical

as for the curriculum.. if its for instance IT/coding.. then just teach the kids to code apps and software.. not how to self mutilate their body and tell their parents their son is dead and now they have a fully grown daughter.. coding is about computer code not culture reprogramming
lecturers should stick the the subject that the students signed upto. not turn all courses into cultural appropriation of some new radical viral trend

You are entitled to your opinion about how Universities should teach, but the key thing that needs to be understood is that it is their opinion that matters on what they do, how, to whom and the extent of the teaching. A Uni is not a factory of professionals - or at least not only, it is a place for free thinking.

Anyone expressing their righful opinion should be free to do so anywhere, but particularly in Uni. The law already regulates what types of expressions constitute an punishable offence - for example: you go to the Capitol with thousands of people with intent to interrupt a democratic process - that is illegal. You are in a Uni saying that what Israel is doing in Gaza amounts to genocide - that is not illegal, regardless of the accuracy of both.

Democracy is build on check and balances. Trump has successfully cowed into obedience the DoJ, most judiciary, the Civil Service in general, the FBI, the CIA...

You can tell a dictator when you see one - but I hope I am wrong and he will actually step down in due time and do not try to perpetuate himself one way or another.

[roosbit]

Now the orange 🍊 man want's to back track in trying to correct the damage done.

It's too late to be honest .

And that 2billion dollar grant he threatened to withdraw and Harvard not being moved by the Trump administration arm twisting tactics should have sent the message "do your worst T"

[jvanname]

Now the orange 🍊 man want's to back track in trying to correct the damage done.

It's too late to be honest .

And that 2billion dollar grant he threatened to withdraw and Harvard not being moved by the Trump administration arm twisting tactics should have sent the message "do your worst T"

Trump is actually trying to take universities and make them better by enforcing standards, but universities do not want this because universities just want to scam people. This means that universities are the problem. I know. I was a professor.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[franky1]

You are entitled to your opinion about how Universities should teach, but the key thing that needs to be understood is that it is their opinion that matters on what they do, how, to whom and the extent of the teaching. A Uni is not a factory of professionals - or at least not only, it is a place for free thinking.

Anyone expressing their righful opinion should be free to do so anywhere, but particularly in Uni. The law already regulates what types of expressions constitute an punishable offence - for example: you go to the Capitol with thousands of people with intent to interrupt a democratic process - that is illegal. You are in a Uni saying that what Israel is doing in Gaza amounts to genocide - that is not illegal, regardless of the accuracy of both.

Democracy is build on check and balances. Trump has successfully cowed into obedience the DoJ, most judiciary, the Civil Service in general, the FBI, the CIA...

You can tell a dictator when you see one - but I hope I am wrong and he will actually step down in due time and do not try to perpetuate himself one way or another.

a university is about paying for studies in a speciality
EG if you signed up for IT then they teach IT. if however they are wasting time during IT class trying to teach you how it feels to be a woman and trying to convert you and tell you that you need to take hormones all your life and have surgery.. then that is not a IT lecturer.. that IT lecturer needs to be reported

sure if you have a interest in gender studies then sign up for a course in gender studies or join a after-class group, or meet like minded people on campus in your free time.
but if you for instance are in an IT class, they better be teaching you IT. .. mathematics class better be teaching math... etc

there is a common sense time, place and manner for everything

your free to have opinions about if you want to say anyone in war is causing needless death, but if you then say you want to harm a particular person you know/can reach to harm.. thats when you are making threats

[caroasi]

While anti-semetism is entirely legal, violence threats are not. Trump seems to be accusing universities of something that they have been accused of by a lot of people... that they don't do enough to stop actual threats of violence. So the threat is to revoke funding from universities that don't take specific actions to halt violence, which is an acceptable thing to do.

Of course highly intelligent hiring managers would actually not hire someone from Harvard and the other extra-woke institutions because of their tendency to churn out weak minded neoliberals who have mental health issues. These are institutions who overtly discriminate against conservatives. While I'm not a conservative myself, I do respect their freedom of speech, and at the basic level respect their freedom to vote for Trump, despite that I don't believe voting is a critical part of government as anyone at all one chooses to represent them should be their representative in government in a Cooperative Republic.

[jvanname]

Now are people starting to fucking wake up? Probably not. Universities promote violence. They have promoted violence against me for no legitimate reason at all and they have refused to apologize. This means that the government should completely defund all universities until they get their acts together. There is no fucking excuse.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

AND THE MOTHERFUCKERS EVERYWHERE HATE ME FOR BRINGING THIS UP! YOU WILL ALL SUFFER IN HELL FOR LOVING VIOLENCE SO MUCH! IN HELL, THE DEMONS WILL ABUSE YOU IN THE MOST HORRIFIC WAYS IMAGINABLE BECAUSE YOU FUCKING DESERVE IT!

IF YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN CONVINCE ME THAT MY EXPERIENCES ARE JUST MY DELUSIONS WHEN YOU WERE NOT FUCKING THERE, THEN YOU ARE ABSOLUTE TRASH! JESUS FUCKING HATES YOU, BITCH!

[paxmao]

While anti-semetism is entirely legal, violence threats are not. Trump seems to be accusing universities of something that they have been accused of by a lot of people... that they don't do enough to stop actual threats of violence. So the threat is to revoke funding from universities that don't take specific actions to halt violence, which is an acceptable thing to do.

Of course highly intelligent hiring managers would actually not hire someone from Harvard and the other extra-woke institutions because of their tendency to churn out weak minded neoliberals who have mental health issues. These are institutions who overtly discriminate against conservatives. While I'm not a conservative myself, I do respect their freedom of speech, and at the basic level respect their freedom to vote for Trump, despite that I don't believe voting is a critical part of government as anyone at all one chooses to represent them should be their representative in government in a Cooperative Republic.

Then, if threatening violence is illegal, then you file and prosecute against the people who do so - and BTW on both sides of the field. You do not ask the Uni's to do the job for you.

Of course "highly intelligent" iring managers hire "highly intelligent" people from wherever they are found - and Harvard and the Ivy are in general a good magnet for talent - I am not saying there is not talent in many other places.

Now, I wonder how institutions that have eye-watering fees are actually discriminating agains the conservatives - which tend to be the ones able to foot the bill. The bias towards the rich is built in, thus some institutions decide that fishing in other ponds for talent may actually... bring talent.

Now, I have always said that top institutions need two type of people: the rich and the talented - much better if you can get a few that are both.

[jvanname]

Then, if threatening violence is illegal, then you file and prosecute against the people who do so - and BTW on both sides of the field. You do not ask the Uni's to do the job for you.

Of course "highly intelligent" iring managers hire "highly intelligent" people from wherever they are found - and Harvard and the Ivy are in general a good magnet for talent - I am not saying there is not talent in many other places.

Now, I wonder how institutions that have eye-watering fees are actually discriminating agains the conservatives - which tend to be the ones able to foot the bill. The bias towards the rich is built in, thus some institutions decide that fishing in other ponds for talent may actually... bring talent.

Now, I have always said that top institutions need two type of people: the rich and the talented - much better if you can get a few that are both.

Universities discriminate based on race. Everyone who hires or esteems anyone with a college degree is therefore a racist piece of shit. Universities also promote violence, so anyone who respects college degrees is a fucked up piece of shit. Universities refuse to apologize for this, so all the people at these institutions are just fucked up pieces of shit.

It is no sense in reasoning with people because people are so fucking stupid that they are killing themselves to death with obesity and psychiatric drugs prescribed by crackpot psychiatrists.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. Now colleges are signing a letter rebuking Trump for holding them accountable? They just don't want to enforce any standards because they want to fucking scam people.

BECAUSE COLLEGE IS SUCH A FUCKING SCAM, NONE OF YOU ARE FUCKING EDUCATED ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT BITCOIN DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A MINING ALGORITHM THAT IS DESIGNED TO ADVANCE SCIENCE! YOU ARE THAT FUCKING STUPID!

[Reynaldo]

 Sovereignty matters  in education and in finance.

[paxmao]

JV -I am not sure what is your stuff with Unis, but you are not convincing anyone using caos and repeating the same stuff. Why do not you open a thread and explain your case? Seems like you were bullied or something, but just make a thread, give names and get it out of your system.

You are entitled to your opinion about how Universities should teach, but the key thing that needs to be understood is that it is their opinion that matters on what they do, how, to whom and the extent of the teaching. A Uni is not a factory of professionals - or at least not only, it is a place for free thinking.

Anyone expressing their righful opinion should be free to do so anywhere, but particularly in Uni. The law already regulates what types of expressions constitute an punishable offence - for example: you go to the Capitol with thousands of people with intent to interrupt a democratic process - that is illegal. You are in a Uni saying that what Israel is doing in Gaza amounts to genocide - that is not illegal, regardless of the accuracy of both.

Democracy is build on check and balances. Trump has successfully cowed into obedience the DoJ, most judiciary, the Civil Service in general, the FBI, the CIA...

You can tell a dictator when you see one - but I hope I am wrong and he will actually step down in due time and do not try to perpetuate himself one way or another.

a university is about paying for studies in a speciality
EG if you signed up for IT then they teach IT. if however they are wasting time during IT class trying to teach you how it feels to be a woman and trying to convert you and tell you that you need to take hormones all your life and have surgery.. then that is not a IT lecturer.. that IT lecturer needs to be reported

sure if you have a interest in gender studies then sign up for a course in gender studies or join a after-class group, or meet like minded people on campus in your free time.
but if you for instance are in an IT class, they better be teaching you IT. .. mathematics class better be teaching math... etc

there is a common sense time, place and manner for everything

your free to have opinions about if you want to say anyone in war is causing needless death, but if you then say you want to harm a particular person you know/can reach to harm.. thats when you are making threats

I am not sure you have been in Uni or not - or maybe you went to a second / third tier one? What you are describing is a private Secondary School.

Unis are institutions that do quite a bit more than producing that basic level of education. Many Unis have a among the teaching staff people who are the best scientist in their fields As usual, there is plenty of proof for those who bother to look a bit:

1) You can see that the number of patents comming from Universities is quite significant compared to those that do not.https://www.researchgate.net/figure/US-versus-non-US-university-patenting-with-USPTO-Data-is-based-on-whole-number_fig2_287250592 (it is old, but for the point it does not matter).

The contribution of academia to US patents has become increasingly global. Following a pause, with a relatively flat rate, from 1998 to 2008, the long-term trend of university patenting rising as a share of all patenting has resumed, driven by the internationalization of academic entrepreneurship

2) Basic Reseach, that preceeds the most transformative technologies, happens in 90% in Unis. Private companies rarely invest in stuff that will not yield money is less than 5 years. They are frequently organised in Hubs (this is also in Europe) https://www.leru.org/publications

And lastly, and what I appreciate more, places where new ideas start - not the only places.

[jvanname]

JV -I am not sure what is your stuff with Unis, but you are not convincing anyone using caos and repeating the same stuff. Why do not you open a thread and explain your case? Seems like you were bullied or something, but just make a thread, give names and get it out of your system.

If you think my righteous anger is not convincing, then you are just an evil person. Humans like you are so fucking evil, that you see righteous indignation as a problem. You are a true terrorist. And telling me that I am not convincing anyone is simply gaslighting. SPEAK FOR YOURSELF BITCH! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT OTHERS THINK YOU FUCKING BITCH ASS BITCH!

You are an evil person who thinks it is alright for my students (I was a professor) to threaten me with violence AND FOR THE UNIVERSITY TO FUCKING PUNISH ME WHEN I CANCEL CLASS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET FUCKING MURDERED! YOU ARE A FUCKING EVIL PERSON! YOU WORSHIP HITLER! You do not see the behavior of universities against me as problematic because you have a sick mind. You are a garbage human. You will go to Hell. And I bet that you are probably so uneducated that you cannot even tell that Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Dear Mr. Van Name:

This is in response to your letter written to Governor Hochul dated April 15. 2023, stating that you were a professor at the City University of New York ("CUNY™) and that during your time on campus, you reported two separate incidents alleging student misconduct. We understand that you last taught at The City College of New York (CCNY) in December 2020 and that both of these incident reports were filed during your employment at City College.

CCNY has conducted a search of our records and we have not found any records of a student engaging in violence against you. We do have two reports, handled by our Public Safety and Student Affairs Offices. that we show as closed. One case is specific to a student who, as someone with English as their second language, misinterpreted the First Amendment and Second Amendment during a discussion with you. The second incident report shows that your complaint was submitted to the Chief Diversity Office at City College and that a resolution was provided to both you and the student in question, with the student dropping your class and confirming
they would not register for any classes you were teaching at the time.

As stated in the CUNY Workplace Violence Policy and Procedures, CUNY has a longstanding commitment to promoting a safe and secure academic and work environment, and all students. faculty and staff are expected to maintain a working and learning environment free from violence. Threats of violence should be reported to Campus Public Safety. If you wish to provide additional information regarding the incident, you may contact Kisha Shrouder. Executive Director of Human Resources at CCNY at kshrouder@ccny.cuny.edu.
Sincerely,

This nonsensical and idiotic letter is the only correspondence from CCNY about this incident because they don't give a fuck since they are that unprofessional. CCNY promotes violence. But is this limited to just one place? There is no evidence for that because nobody (well, actually very few_ has came out and condemned these actions, so I must condemn all universities for being such fucked up pieces of shit where nobody is receiving a proper education since the institution is just promoting violence. Until universities acknowledge that they have a fucking problem, we should regard these institutions as evil.

Hmm. Now that I have given details, you will not even read what I wrote, but you will instead tell me that I am lying or delusional. Well, you are just fucking evil. You will go to Hell where you will be abused by the demons.

[Fiatless]

You are entitled to your opinion about how Universities should teach, but the key thing that needs to be understood is that it is their opinion that matters on what they do, how, to whom and the extent of the teaching. A Uni is not a factory of professionals - or at least not only, it is a place for free thinking.

Anyone expressing their righful opinion should be free to do so anywhere, but particularly in Uni. The law already regulates what types of expressions constitute an punishable offence - for example: you go to the Capitol with thousands of people with intent to interrupt a democratic process - that is illegal. You are in a Uni saying that what Israel is doing in Gaza amounts to genocide - that is not illegal, regardless of the accuracy of both.

Democracy is build on check and balances. Trump has successfully cowed into obedience the DoJ, most judiciary, the Civil Service in general, the FBI, the CIA...

You can tell a dictator when you see one - but I hope I am wrong and he will actually step down in due time and do not try to perpetuate himself one way or another.

I support you without reservation @paxmao. One of the reasons for the quality education that the US offer is because of university autonomy. If a university ia not free innovation and creativity will not strive. I support Harvard's fight for freedom of the US universities. People should be free to support or oppose anything based on personal conviction. If I was in the US university, I would have joined the protest against the genocide in Gaza. And I will also be glad to return home or move to another country if my visa is cancelled.

JV -I am not sure what is your stuff with Unis, but you are not convincing anyone using caos and repeating the same stuff. Why do not you open a thread and explain your case? Seems like you were bullied or something, but just make a thread, give names and get it out of your system.

He doesn't need to open a thread to explain anything. How will someone keep repeating thesame thing for a long period. It is obvious that something is wrong with the person. Even if he was bullied, he has to move on and stop this wasteful protest.

[jvanname]

He doesn't need to open a thread to explain anything. How will someone keep repeating thesame thing for a long period. It is obvious that something is wrong with the person. Even if he was bullied, he has to move on and stop this wasteful protest.

Go fuck yourself. I am directly telling you that universities (community colleges, liberal arts colleges, and public schools too) are fucked up pieces of shit. You think that this is normal behavior because you are fucked up. And you think it is normal for everyone including yourself to hate me for this because you are a fucked up piece of shit. Universities promote violence and produce a garbage education! Universities are so bad that people like you are too fucking uneducated to realize how horrible they actually are.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[paxmao]

JV -I am not sure what is your stuff with Unis, but you are not convincing anyone using caos and repeating the same stuff. Why do not you open a thread and explain your case? Seems like you were bullied or something, but just make a thread, give names and get it out of your system.

If you think my righteous anger is not convincing, then you are just an evil person. Humans like you are so fucking evil, that you see righteous indignation as a problem. You are a true terrorist. And telling me that I am not convincing anyone is simply gaslighting. SPEAK FOR YOURSELF BITCH! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT OTHERS THINK YOU FUCKING BITCH ASS BITCH!

You are an evil person who thinks it is alright for my students (I was a professor) to threaten me with violence AND FOR THE UNIVERSITY TO FUCKING PUNISH ME WHEN I CANCEL CLASS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET FUCKING MURDERED! YOU ARE A FUCKING EVIL PERSON! YOU WORSHIP HITLER! You do not see the behavior of universities against me as problematic because you have a sick mind. You are a garbage human. You will go to Hell. And I bet that you are probably so uneducated that you cannot even tell that Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Dear Mr. Van Name:

This is in response to your letter written to Governor Hochul dated April 15. 2023, stating that you were a professor at the City University of New York ("CUNY™) and that during your time on campus, you reported two separate incidents alleging student misconduct. We understand that you last taught at The City College of New York (CCNY) in December 2020 and that both of these incident reports were filed during your employment at City College.

CCNY has conducted a search of our records and we have not found any records of a student engaging in violence against you. We do have two reports, handled by our Public Safety and Student Affairs Offices. that we show as closed. One case is specific to a student who, as someone with English as their second language, misinterpreted the First Amendment and Second Amendment during a discussion with you. The second incident report shows that your complaint was submitted to the Chief Diversity Office at City College and that a resolution was provided to both you and the student in question, with the student dropping your class and confirming
they would not register for any classes you were teaching at the time.

As stated in the CUNY Workplace Violence Policy and Procedures, CUNY has a longstanding commitment to promoting a safe and secure academic and work environment, and all students. faculty and staff are expected to maintain a working and learning environment free from violence. Threats of violence should be reported to Campus Public Safety. If you wish to provide additional information regarding the incident, you may contact Kisha Shrouder. Executive Director of Human Resources at CCNY at kshrouder@ccny.cuny.edu.
Sincerely,

This nonsensical and idiotic letter is the only correspondence from CCNY about this incident because they don't give a fuck since they are that unprofessional. CCNY promotes violence. But is this limited to just one place? There is no evidence for that because nobody (well, actually very few_ has came out and condemned these actions, so I must condemn all universities for being such fucked up pieces of shit where nobody is receiving a proper education since the institution is just promoting violence. Until universities acknowledge that they have a fucking problem, we should regard these institutions as evil.

Hmm. Now that I have given details, you will not even read what I wrote, but you will instead tell me that I am lying or delusional. Well, you are just fucking evil. You will go to Hell where you will be abused by the demons.

Interesting... so if you write in CAPS and show ire I would need to believe you. I am not sure what kind of PhD you did, but usually logic does not work like that.

So, you had an incident with two students, this Uni did not consider that the cases should go any further. If it were me, my next step should not be ranting in the forum, but presenting you case in court - just saying. Also, you had a problem with one Uni, you seem to be assuming that all are equal.

Another thing I do not understand is why are you writing 2 or 3 years later after whatever incident.

Anyway, Trump is not making Universities any better, they are just removing free speech when it does not align with the agenda.

[franky1]

getting back to the topic

the solution to the gov demands and the university is this:
if any private or federal donations come with clauses.. and those clauses are not agreeable to the university.. then the university should not take the money, or if they already have taken it, they should refund the money

the university is not poor, so trying to take the fed to court saying removing the grants will harm the research and stuff.. just is a bad argument to make
the university if it wants to stick to its own political/social leaning agenda. should just decline donations that come with terms..

simply stop taking fed money.. end of

the fed could then just offer its own efficient scholarship scheme by sending funds down to the state level to evaluate students applications for scholarships

[_Miracle]

It is about control

and this is part of it "Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History"
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/restoring-truth-and-sanity-to-american-history/

Cut and pasted from The White House website:




By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1.  Purpose and Policy.  Over the past decade, Americans have witnessed a concerted and widespread effort to rewrite our Nation’s history, replacing objective facts with a distorted narrative driven by ideology rather than truth.  This revisionist movement seeks to undermine the remarkable achievements of the United States by casting its founding principles and historical milestones in a negative light.  Under this historical revision, our Nation’s unparalleled legacy of advancing liberty, individual rights, and human happiness is reconstructed as inherently racist, sexist, oppressive, or otherwise irredeemably flawed.  Rather than fostering unity and a deeper understanding of our shared past, the widespread effort to rewrite history deepens societal divides and fosters a sense of national shame, disregarding the progress America has made and the ideals that continue to inspire millions around the globe.

The prior administration advanced this corrosive ideology.  At Independence National Historical Park in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania — where our Nation declared that all men are created equal — the prior administration sponsored training by an organization that advocates dismantling “Western foundations” and “interrogating institutional racism” and pressured National Historical Park rangers that their racial identity should dictate how they convey history to visiting Americans because America is purportedly racist.

Once widely respected as a symbol of American excellence and a global icon of cultural achievement, the Smithsonian Institution has, in recent years, come under the influence of a divisive, race-centered ideology.  This shift has promoted narratives that portray American and Western values as inherently harmful and oppressive.  For example, the Smithsonian American Art Museum today features “The Shape of Power:  Stories of Race and American Sculpture,” an exhibit representing that “societies including the United States have used race to establish and maintain systems of power, privilege, and disenfranchisement.”  The exhibit further claims that “sculpture has been a powerful tool in promoting scientific racism” and promotes the view that race is not a biological reality but a social construct, stating “Race is a human invention.”

The National Museum of African American History and Culture has proclaimed that “hard work,” “individualism,” and “the nuclear family” are aspects of “White culture.”  The forthcoming Smithsonian American Women’s History Museum plans on celebrating the exploits of male athletes participating in women’s sports.  These are just a few examples.

It is the policy of my Administration to restore Federal sites dedicated to history, including parks and museums, to solemn and uplifting public monuments that remind Americans of our extraordinary heritage, consistent progress toward becoming a more perfect Union, and unmatched record of advancing liberty, prosperity, and human flourishing.  Museums in our Nation’s capital should be places where individuals go to learn — not to be subjected to ideological indoctrination or divisive narratives that distort our shared history.

To advance this policy, we will restore the Smithsonian Institution to its rightful place as a symbol of inspiration and American greatness –- igniting the imagination of young minds, honoring the richness of American history and innovation, and instilling pride in the hearts of all Americans.

Sec. 2.  Saving Our Smithsonian.  (a)  The Vice President, in consultation with the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy and the Special Assistant to the President and Senior Associate Staff Secretary, Lindsey Halligan, Esq., shall work to effectuate the policies of this order through his role on the Smithsonian Board of Regents with respect to the Smithsonian Institution and its museums, education and research centers, and the National Zoo, including by seeking to remove improper ideology from such properties, and shall recommend to the President any additional actions necessary to fully effectuate such policies.

(b)  The Vice President and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall work with the Congress to ensure that future appropriations to the Smithsonian Institution:

(i)   prohibit expenditure on exhibits or programs that degrade shared American values, divide Americans based on race, or promote programs or ideologies inconsistent with Federal law and policy; and

(ii)  celebrate the achievements of women in the American Women’s History Museum and do not recognize men as women in any respect in the Museum.

(c)  The Director of the Office of Management and Budget and the Secretary of the Interior shall take any other measures within their authority to promote the policy of this order.

(d)  As appropriate, the Vice President shall, in consultation with the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy and Special Assistant to the President and Senior Associate Staff Secretary, Lindsey Halligan, Esq., work with the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the Senate Majority Leader, to seek the appointment of citizen members to the Smithsonian Board of Regents committed to advancing the policy of this order.

Sec. 3.  Restoring Independence Hall.  The Secretary of the Interior shall provide sufficient funding, as available, to improve the infrastructure of Independence National Historical Park, which shall be complete by July 4, 2026, the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Sec. 4.  Restoring Truth in American History.

(a)  The Secretary of the Interior shall:

(i)    determine whether, since January 1, 2020, public monuments, memorials, statues, markers, or similar properties within the Department of the Interior’s jurisdiction have been removed or changed to perpetuate a false reconstruction of American history, inappropriately minimize the value of certain historical events or figures, or include any other improper partisan ideology;

(ii)   take action to reinstate the pre-existing monuments, memorials, statues, markers, or similar properties, as appropriate and consistent with 43 U.S.C. 1451 et seq., 54 U.S.C. 100101 et seq.,and other applicable law; and

(iii)  take action, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, to ensure that all public monuments, memorials, statues, markers, or similar properties within the Department of the Interior’s jurisdiction do not contain descriptions, depictions, or other content that inappropriately disparage Americans past or living (including persons living in colonial times), and instead focus on the greatness of the achievements and progress of the American people or, with respect to natural features, the beauty, abundance, and grandeur of the American landscape.

Sec. 5.  General Provisions.  (a)  Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i)   the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii)  the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b)  This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c)  This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

                              DONALD J. TRUMP

THE WHITE HOUSE,

    March 27, 2025



We have a long established narrative taught in our schools that really supports

A System Built to Protect Money over People.

"division at any cost protects the interests of the 1% (the wealthy elite)".
  Bernie Sanders, George Carlin, Rage Against the Machine ;-))
--------------------------------------A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn------------------------

[_Miracle]

Anyone expressing their righful opinion should be free to do so anywhere, but particularly in Uni. The law already regulates what types of expressions constitute an punishable offence - for example: you go to the Capitol with thousands of people with intent to interrupt a democratic process - that is illegal. You are in a Uni saying that what Israel is doing in Gaza amounts to genocide - that is not illegal, regardless of the accuracy of both.

Democracy is build on check and balances. Trump has successfully cowed into obedience the DoJ, most judiciary, the Civil Service in general, the FBI, the CIA...

You can tell a dictator when you see one - but I hope I am wrong and he will actually step down in due time and do not try to perpetuate himself one way or another.

He pardoned the people [seditionists] in the January 6th Capitol Riots.
Let's see how the current peaceful decentralized protests go.


50 years ago money in politics would have been a scandal;
now we have congress voting on laws and profiting in the stock markets without a hint of shame, super pacs, corporate lobbyists, billionaires with chainsaws calling citizens parasites while proudly buying elections >getting access to all of our systems. A president who brags about how much money his friends made with his on and off tariffs.
 And a distracting news cycle continuously entertaining while missing the entire fucking point (or hoping that we do).

Feckless politicians operating under the influence of money.

 (1976 precedent Buckley v. Valeo) Money has free speech  ---> more than a single person.