Here is the link from an official website:
https://hesperides.edu.es/estudios/masters-degree-in-economics/Did you guys see the price? It's 7,650 €/year, that's crazy, it's EU, not the USA or Canada
By the way, I find it hard to pay for that degree even if I didn't have a problem with spending that much money on that because why should I pay for something that started from this forum? This forum is everything that you need to learn Bitcoin, this is the place where satoshi and other legendary members were posting, this is the place where Bitcoin started and developed, this is the place where top companies started their business. So, what's the point of paying in something that's entirely free? To get a paper?
To get a paper that says that you are smart
In all honesty.. Depends on what you want to achieve and where this "paper" would be useful.
It is not necessarily easy to get a Master's degree, and prior to getting a Master's degree, you need to get a bachelor's degree.
Some guys here do not have either a bachelor's degree or a Master's degree, yet they want to proclaim that participating in a forum like this is of similar quality as having a Master's degree.
It is strange to suggest that there is no value to book learning, and surely some folks finish their education (such as a Bachelor's degree or a Master's degree), and maybe they did not learn anything... but I doubt it. Most of the time, each class has requirements to write or to take tests in order to show some attempts at grappling with the topics that were being taught in each course. Some universities may be more rigid than others in terms of making sure that their graduates have some level of knowledge and/or skills in the areas being taught.
With the look of things and the position Bitcoin has taken in the world and for Bitcoin to be introduced in the university definitely it is going to be a general course such that it will not be optional to students but is going to be a compulsory course that student must have to pass before being certified for graduation, this implies that there is going to a certain level of discipline towards meeting up expectations and passing exams, of course it is a different environment entirely between learning Bitcoin here in the forum and that of in the university while we might have choices of what to learn about Bitcoin in the forum, in the university student will be required to meet up certain curriculum in various sessions or semesters.
It would still cost a hefty sum, as we saw previously in the thread.
So it's better to learn main things and concepts there for free and only then think about such a degree.
Unless you get a scholarship, Universities tend to cost money not ONLY for the cost of tuition and books and other study materials, yet also the opportunity costs that come from studying rather than being available to earn money through gainful employment... So even paying lodging and food costs, while studying at university can add up to being costly... Yet, frequently, some jobs are ONLY available to applicants who have had certain kinds of educational and experience backgrounds.
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Your points and message here are very loud and clear, as I can relate. Activities here on this platform cannot be compared to those of academic settings, as the case may be. The difference between both platforms is that here is an open platform free of membership with no fees or tuition, with no means of measuring for knowledge acquired, and things are done based on inputs and contributions from random members who are not known by their level of education and exposure, although some are learned and educated, virtually not every one of them are but however, we could be able to access some by virtue of their contribution, their level of knowledge as it relates to the aspect of bitcoin education they are well grounded in.
Surely, some members might grow up in households with parents who are well educated through University and/or through life experiences, and some folks learn faster than others, whether they attend university or not.
Some folks may well not need a college education in order to identify ways that they might need to study and to potentially learn subjects without receiving formal education on the topics, yet University can still teach people how to learn better and even how to engage in critical thinking if they might not have been taught those skills in their youth.
There are some uneducated folks who believe that they are engaging in critical thinking through their being skeptical of matters, yet frequently they will be missing some basic areas of learning, and not really know what they do not know. Surely, I am not claiming to be any kind of an expert since there are so many topics in which I feel that I don't have a lot of knowledge, training and/or studies in a lot of different areas, and many times there are only so many hours in the day to try to learn, even if some of us were capable of learning certain topics. We know that there are some folks who have aptitudes for learning topics more quickly than others.
You are not far from the truth about the fact that expectations of homework and exams are a must in the university setting. Here, the narrative is different, and that is why I don't think it can be compared to academic settings, because this is an open platform that has no restriction of membership but on the mercies of other member to grow in up rank from their kind gesture,
Rank is not even necessarily based on knowledge, but instead time served and likability, yet surely some forum members who present ideas well receive more merits, but merits are not always given based on objective criteria or even topical knowledge... even though frequently, guys will give merits to posts that outline facts and logic and have conclusions and/or opinions that flow from facts and logic, but still if the topic is presented in a difficult way, then no one will read it. I am not claiming that my posts are necessarily read, or even based on a kind of presentation that might be necessarily in an academic setting. And even an academic setting might sometimes be easier than a professional setting where the writing (and presentation) might need to be at a higher level depending on documents that might sometimes be presented internally within organizations or they might be presented publicly to describe a position or policy of an organization or .they might be defending (or arguing) certain theories.. .in the context of scientific writing or in the context of legal writing or in the context of poetry and/or literature, each of which might have differing objectives, including standards if there might be either a reviewing body or some supervisors who want to make sure that the writing achieves the organizational objectives.
although it is an appreciation for a work and contribution well done but when it comes to academic settings you must write test and exams just as you have said,
Students will be held to a lower standard than professors or someone who might be wanting to get tenured and being reviewed by colleagues, and sure some of the supposed standards are scams, since sometimes they may well have agendas that prioritize or deprioritize certain areas that might be in support of mainstream theories (or accepted science) versus some areas will be frowned upon if they do not fit within certain areas of accepted science or politics or accepted dogmas of some fields that might even be unwilling to accept challenges to the more accepted frameworks, whether we are referring to science, history, politics, economics, religion or various other fields that might have more accepted areas and less accepted areas.
you do good research and publications that are well vetted for the purpose for which they were executed, and it would add up to the bitcoin community at large because it would be sourced after for reference purposes when ever it is necessary to do so. These are just some of the things that keep the bitcoin community and knowledge growing and expanding.
There surely are differing opinions within the bitcoin community, and there may well be objections to certain practices and/or ways of thinking about bitcoin, and some folks might consider certain current events as potential attacks on the bitcoin network, and so there can be a lot of ways to frame the discussion to describe areas as attacks on bitcoin or even for example, if there might be acceptable ways that shitcoins might be accepted or pegged to bitcoin.
Truly, some courses are that rigorous and technical, and I know Bitcoin wouldn't be exempted because it too has its technical side, which ought to be properly learnt and understood, and these are the reasons I believe some schools deemed it fit to take a Masters degree programme on Bitcoin education so as to make sure it is well taught and learnt in the academic field leaving no stone unturned.
There are aspects of bitcoin that are still being absorbed into various kinds of mainstream discussion (and/or academic discussions), and surely there have been various kinds of bitcoin (and/or crypto) degree programs going back to at least around the time that I got into bitcoin and/or even before that.. .. but yeah, some of the earlier discussions might have had bitcoin as ONLY a course or maybe as sub-components of several kinds of courses and within differing departments, yet the more that a field develops, the more that it might be shown that other topics can be looked through bitcoin rather than bitcoin being looked at through the other topics, and so many fields that are more developed, they will have abilities to specialize within the field, whether someone might specialize in the technical aspects of bitcoin or maybe another person might specialize in the economics and/or politics and maybe another person might specialize in social aspects or even specialize in relating shitcoins to bitcoin. Even within any of our posts that might describe the different possible ways of specializing, any professor might design some courses that might have some certain emphasis, even philosophy and bitcoin or religion and bitcoin or there could be some ways that we are not really able to capture the essences in regards to how some courses and/or student's might choose to specialize. There could even be some classes that are self-study or the master's thesis might attempt to explore some previously unexplored areas - even though master's thesis don't necessarily need to be as original as something like a PHD thesis would need to be... but a student could still attempt to engage in some original data gathering and attempt to develop areas of discussion that had not been previously explored by other works.
It is a bit ironic also how some guys think that learning about bitcoin relates to investing in it, even though surely investing into bitcoin could be an angle, but when it comes to learning at university, you would not necessarily need to invest into bitcoin in order to learn about it, even though in the real world, it hardly makes any sense when guys come to a forum like this and they want to talk about all of the supposed smart and theoretical things that they know about bitcoin, and it makes less sense if they are not actually also involved in bitcoin in one way or another... yet, sure in academics there frequently are goals to attempt to stay neutral, which seems quite strange when it comes to something like bitcoin that has both the theoretical angle, but also the practical angle that suggest everyone better get a stake in it sooner rather than later, or else have fun staying poor...
but learning about bitcoin from an academic level may not require any investing into it, depending on the area of focus... yet some of the guys who learn about bitcoin (or any other topic) without some hands on the ground will also suffer from their own difficulties in relating to certain practical aspects of the topic .. even though, yes, for sure, an academic does not have to buy bitcoin (and/or shitcoins) in order to learn about bitcoin and/or shitcoins. He does not necessarily need to learn how to program or to involve himself in various aspects of shitcoin's or ICOs or meme coins or stable coins, even though he might have to learn some of the basics of some of these matters, and schools can set up their programs in regards to which courses are mandatory and which are electives, and also even within the courses, there may well be some generally agreed upon standards within certain courses, and some courses might be left up to the professor to design or they might have some course templates that they consider to be acceptable and the professor may well have some latitude within the course description to choose some of his own materials and/or perhaps certain areas that he would like to emphasize more or less within the already existing design of the course.
Bitcoin is not really that widely studied as a degree, especially at the master's level; it can be added to be studied like a course in school just to spread the knowledge about it, and then anyone who wants to know more can extend their knowledge.
What I can say about this is that the school wants to use that to attract people into the school, as many might want to learn about it in depth, but deep down they might not see anything different from what's on the internet, as they will even fill their brain with other economic courses that will have nothing to do with Bitcoin.
Most likely with any attempt to add a degree or a specialty at either the graduate level or at the undergraduate level, something like bitcoin would have to fit within one of the already existing departments and/or programs, and surely anyone who is interested in bitcoin would likely be more sympathetic to Austrian economics rather than traditional economics, even though I don't see any problem learning the various schools of thought..and many times we hear about folks who learned traditional economics, yet they claimed to have not been taught anything about Austrian economics, so I would imagine that Austrian economics would likely get more attention in the context of teaching and learning about bitcoin within the departments... .. yet, I think that any departments are going to have tensions within them in terms of what might be valuable parts of the core curriculum within the department, and surely some departments want to make sure that they are recognized beyond merely locally...They want to be recognized nationally, and internationally, perhaps?
Instead of being in the economics department bitcoin could be within computer science, yet it seems that economics may well be a good fit, even though there may also be ways that some of the courses will overlap with courses in other departments, just like none of the areas of study are strictly their own isolated existence, and frequently there is going to be areas that overlap.
Of course on the forum, we talk about all kinds of aspects of bitcoin, yet I doubt that there are many threads that are able to stay at a deep enough level to be academic (whether at the undergraduate level or at the graduate level), and yeah within academics there are discussions of theory versus practice and even within some economic departments there will be areas that specialize more in practice rather than theory or even something like financial advising and accounting would be on the practical side, yet the departments might not necessarily focus on practical training, since that is something that is learned by having a job or maybe an internship...so even some members in this forum think that bitcoin relates to various investment angles, yet that is ONLY one perspective of bitcoin and perhaps how some guys might not really be interested in learning about bitcoin from any theoretical perspective, except for how any theories or studies about bitcoin foundations and/or fundamentals relates to the strength (or weakness) of bitcoin's investment thesis.
