Experiment failed (Gambling on the basis of AI)

[AbuBhakar]

Placing a bet is not just about win or loss but that is how we can analyze and improve our skill and choose the team. If we loss in one match, that will not be a problem because we have next matches to bet.

You can use AI to have more information but you don't have to depend on that. If you can improve your skill better, you will see the chance to win may also increase but you still need luck.

Human analysis is indeed much better if we are betting our own money on the line. Besides, the goal of sports betting is to have fun by doing our own analysis and prove it right.

The satisfaction of making our prediction is goal we need to achieve when gambling on sports rather than focus on the PnL alone without doing our own analysis.

Using AI is not bad since it will help us to get necessary information on the match. We just need to verify data on our own and do a personal analysis.

[Churchillvv]

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Well, it is clear that the AI is trying to analyze well, while trying to take into account all the factors of previous games. But it cannot give any specific answer. I would not trust the AI to decide my bets on matches.
But overall I expected the neural network's response to be much worse.

Of course AI can't be totally correct it only will give it's best short at it, in my local sport bookies it's very possible to place a bet according to how the AI predicted it. you could place a bet goal - goal and or each team to score.

I don't trust AI, and I just can't imagine that humanity will one day trust all the management of robots. Yes, maybe AI can predict and analyze future games with a high degree of success, but there will always be a human factor. In that case, is it worth it to get involved with a robot and trust them with your money? After all, in case of failure, you blame yourself, and you have room to grow. What can you expect from a robot? I am definitely too old-fashioned to trust a bet to an inanimate instrument.

I wouldn't also trust AI for the most part just taking a chance at it and it currently went well if not for my imperfect human nature of wanting bigger returns I would have been on a winning side.

However, being old fashioned is normal a lot of guys here are too but in a free world with datas information everywhere AI could help ease some stress especially when it has nothing to do with essentials rather it's a fun thing afterall I can't even feel the loss because I took a very small amount for wagering.

I also remember @acroman8 mentioned OGnasty is doing same so we are taking advantage of this AIs while having fun. you should short a short on Friday against all Saturday and Sunday premier league matches and see what will be the outcome as also going to do that and give my report here this time not including my own bets instead placing it separately.

[Doan9269]

Not to create long story! however I did experiment one of my long waited biases yesterday and it did turn out to be some sort of good guess but later failed.

On the basis of AI, I took a chance at Deepseek promoting it to give me a close guess or tips on what team to win football matches yesterday and somehow it gave a good tips with statistics that gave me a chance to be rational in decision making but because of greed and the payout was quite small so I added my own guess to increase the chance of high return and it turnout that my own guess ruined the bet.

Curious to ask, did anyone ever try this out? it could work and also fall.

Gambling can be tempting if we are not been careful and from here is where addiction and irresponsible gambling set in because some don't even know they are being greedy as they gamble until they failed the test on it, though if we want to actually win big, we needed to take much higher risk, while when we took a low risk, our chances for winning huge amount depreciates, which is common as we gambles, though i my case, i don't even bother asking AI on anything regarding gambling, i just use my own experience and perception for bets.

[Makus]

I also remember @acroman8 mentioned OGnasty is doing same so we are taking advantage of this AIs while having fun. you should short a short on Friday against all Saturday and Sunday premier league matches and see what will be the outcome as also going to do that and give my report here this time not including my own bets instead placing it separately.

I've never tried Ai predictions before, because I think it's just a collective statistics of previous performance without consider much of the future and errors that may occur, however I found it not as effective as using your own knowledge and instincts to make prediction but how much of win do we make when using our prediction skill? Maybe it's time to give it a short by using the right risk management. Ai is slowly becoming the world's most rapid and effective research tool, so it'll be kind of odd not checking it out besides,  gamble is all about luck so AI could make the research part alot more easier.

[danherbias07]

I also remember @acroman8 mentioned OGnasty is doing same so we are taking advantage of this AIs while having fun. you should short a short on Friday against all Saturday and Sunday premier league matches and see what will be the outcome as also going to do that and give my report here this time not including my own bets instead placing it separately.

I've never tried Ai predictions before, because I think it's just a collective statistics of previous performance without consider much of the future and errors that may occur, however I found it not as effective as using your own knowledge and instincts to make prediction but how much of win do we make when using our prediction skill? Maybe it's time to give it a short by using the right risk management. Ai is slowly becoming the world's most rapid and effective research tool, so it'll be kind of odd not checking it out besides,  gamble is all about luck so AI could make the research part alot more easier.

I agree. We have a different approach when it comes to predicting the results, and I think AIs have the same approach as humans. We rely on information and records on the internet, but when it comes to instincts, the AI doesn't have one.

Also, it's different when you are able to watch every game of your favorite team. You just know something that the computer would not understand, and I think those are game changers when it comes to betting. We cannot rely on AI because it will just use the basic information gathered from the internet, which means it's way different than how humans look at the game.

[JunaidAzizi]

I don't know why humans do this when something is going well, they come and ruin it completely. In your situation, the AI prediction is not always correct and precise. Fortunately, when you seize the opportunity and the prediction is right, then why didn't you use that AI a second time? If your mind is so capable, then you have no reason to rely on AI. However, when you take the help of AI, it means you are not capable, then why do you make your own moves? Here, I can't say more because there is nothing else to add.

[Lanatsa]

I also remember @acroman8 mentioned OGnasty is doing same so we are taking advantage of this AIs while having fun. you should short a short on Friday against all Saturday and Sunday premier league matches and see what will be the outcome as also going to do that and give my report here this time not including my own bets instead placing it separately.

I've never tried Ai predictions before, because I think it's just a collective statistics of previous performance without consider much of the future and errors that may occur, however I found it not as effective as using your own knowledge and instincts to make prediction but how much of win do we make when using our prediction skill? Maybe it's time to give it a short by using the right risk management. Ai is slowly becoming the world's most rapid and effective research tool, so it'll be kind of odd not checking it out besides,  gamble is all about luck so AI could make the research part alot more easier.

I agree. We have a different approach when it comes to predicting the results, and I think AIs have the same approach as humans. We rely on information and records on the internet, but when it comes to instincts, the AI doesn't have one.

Also, it's different when you are able to watch every game of your favorite team. You just know something that the computer would not understand, and I think those are game changers when it comes to betting. We cannot rely on AI because it will just use the basic information gathered from the internet, which means it's way different than how humans look at the game.

The only differences are.

1. The duration on how information being searched or accumulated
2. Decisions made out by intuition which humans could but AI can't.
3. Immediate response basing up on the current situation of the game like doing early cash outs

If you do find yourself that your own decisions do the reason on why AI predictions lost then you can test out on multiple bets and not just that a few ones. There's no way that you can prove it out
but in general essence on which we do know that betting do still need up that luck in order to win. No matter how good your analysis would be but luck isnt on your side then it will be that still losing.
I do agree into those some words that everything do talks about luck factor and with having those coincidence on which there's no solid proof that AI predictions are more accurate than human beings.
We do know that there are things that humans could be able to do that AI cant.

[Agbe]

Your experiment was a good one but to tell you the truth even if you did not add your own guess to it because of what you call greed will not have worked for you because there is no A.I that can accurately predict the outcome of any gambling event especially football, gambling is a game of luck and the that is the fact so nothing can change it so when gambling we have to know that gambling is a game of luck

[avp2306]

I also remember @acroman8 mentioned OGnasty is doing same so we are taking advantage of this AIs while having fun. you should short a short on Friday against all Saturday and Sunday premier league matches and see what will be the outcome as also going to do that and give my report here this time not including my own bets instead placing it separately.

I've never tried Ai predictions before, because I think it's just a collective statistics of previous performance without consider much of the future and errors that may occur, however I found it not as effective as using your own knowledge and instincts to make prediction but how much of win do we make when using our prediction skill? Maybe it's time to give it a short by using the right risk management. Ai is slowly becoming the world's most rapid and effective research tool, so it'll be kind of odd not checking it out besides,  gamble is all about luck so AI could make the research part alot more easier.

I agree. We have a different approach when it comes to predicting the results, and I think AIs have the same approach as humans. We rely on information and records on the internet, but when it comes to instincts, the AI doesn't have one.

Also, it's different when you are able to watch every game of your favorite team. You just know something that the computer would not understand, and I think those are game changers when it comes to betting. We cannot rely on AI because it will just use the basic information gathered from the internet, which means it's way different than how humans look at the game.

The only differences are.

1. The duration on how information being searched or accumulated
2. Decisions made out by intuition which humans could but AI can't.
3. Immediate response basing up on the current situation of the game like doing early cash outs

If you do find yourself that your own decisions do the reason on why AI predictions lost then you can test out on multiple bets and not just that a few ones. There's no way that you can prove it out
but in general essence on which we do know that betting do still need up that luck in order to win. No matter how good your analysis would be but luck isnt on your side then it will be that still losing.
I do agree into those some words that everything do talks about luck factor and with having those coincidence on which there's no solid proof that AI predictions are more accurate than human beings.
We do know that there are things that humans could be able to do that AI cant.

Great inputs given there, so the main point here that people need to understand that we should never rely on AI because there's no such thing like we can get accurate prediction with the results given.

Everything will still depends on many factor and chances to win still not guarantee. I'd rather prefer to do my own research because with this we can learn lots of things rather than relying on information feed by robots.

Yeah Ai might give us good information regarding on which team have good advantage to win the game still been played by humans and for sure no Ai can accurately predict in advance the result of the game.

[Shinpako09]

This came to my mind before, but I didn't try it because I knew it wouldn't work. Maybe yours was just a coincidence that the AI predicted it right. If it were really accurate or could give more than a 50% chance of winning, then casinos would’ve lost a lot already, especially with how well known AI is worldwide. I'd rather collect data myself than leave the predictions to AI. Sports betting isn't just all about data, you also need luck.

[Dave1]

Not to create long story! however I did experiment one of my long waited biases yesterday and it did turn out to be some sort of good guess but later failed.

On the basis of AI, I took a chance at Deepseek promoting it to give me a close guess or tips on what team to win football matches yesterday and somehow it gave a good tips with statistics that gave me a chance to be rational in decision making but because of greed and the payout was quite small so I added my own guess to increase the chance of high return and it turnout that my own guess ruined the bet.

Curious to ask, did anyone ever try this out? it could work and also fall.

If I'm not mistaken, there are threads about it before, someone uses AI to bet on UFC/MMA if I'm not mistaken, and the same results as yours. He didn't get any profit from it. So I guess we still needed that "human touch" for sports betting as there are some areas that AI can't really factor in, like the heart of the fighter and the styles, as what we have been saying, style makes fight.

In any case, thanks for sharing your experiment with us, although it just a failed experiment and you have lost some money. And I guess it's another lesson for us as we can't really "trust" AI for now with regards to sports betting.

[Belarge]

Nothing is certain in gambling and the recent game of arsenal and PSG is a typical example of nothing is certain in gambling because a lot of people around me predicted arsenal to win the game but unfortunately arsenal lost and I’m sure you would imagine how many people lost their bets yesterday right?
Maybe if you asked AI about the prediction for that very game, it might give you a prediction of arsenal winning the game and you wouldn’t say because arsenal lost, So AI didn’t do a great job because what AI uses to predict a game is based on statistics of each club including their previous performances and the rest.
Sorry you ruined your bet but maybe you would have staked a more higher amount on the game than adding more games but this is medicine after death.

[KiaKia]

The deepseek even tried since you claimed that you ruined it yourself.

I don't think AI will be reliable in the long run, the answer it gave might work for now but I am not sure it will keep working for long, in short don't rely on AI.

You need skills, I guess that's where you lacking, deepseek gave a strategy probably to make you avoid losses and you adjust the return yourself, greed got the best of you my friend.

The skill required is not to win, but to make sure that you don't get drowned after a loss, gamblers think too much about winning, they focus too much on winning only, even the legendary Bruce lee said

To know defeat is to librate from it.

[Finestream]

Maybe you should try and follow what DeepSeek is saying just to know whether the tip was right or wrong. In fact, you have seen that it was right until you ruined it and lost.

There is a saying, Try and try until you succeed. Perhaps it was an experimental activity. You will never find it successful if you don't follow it. But we can't also assume the AI is right if you follow it.

In this experiment, I can't say anything but rather make you continue your experiment until you gain satisfaction.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This came to my mind before, but I didn't try it because I knew it wouldn't work. Maybe yours was just a coincidence that the AI predicted it right. If it were really accurate or could give more than a 50% chance of winning, then casinos would’ve lost a lot already, especially with how well known AI is worldwide. I'd rather collect data myself than leave the predictions to AI. Sports betting isn't just all about data, you also need luck.

Exactly the point bud, what you said is absolutely correctly, most especially the part where you said that if Ai were to correctly predict every match on how it will play out and turns out to be correct, most casinos would have gone bankrupt already because Ai is not longer a thing or technology that we could say that most persons are yet to discover, almost every smart phones being produced now and even all social apps now have Ai intergrated, what this mean is that Ai is widely disposed and used by many hundreds of millions of people around the world.

The short coming of Ai in terms of sports predictions is that it works with past data, that is, it uses past results to predict future outcomes, and unfortunately for bettors, this is ineffective because things change, alot of things change over time and this where Ai fails completely.

[iv4n]

Curious to ask, did anyone ever try this out? it could work and also fall.

Did anyone try what exactly? To place a bet & lose... Many here are passionate gamblers, and I believe that many people from here have tried a lot of things. Normal & crazy bets, foolish & thoughtful, smart & stupid. And sometimes we had the luck to win, sometimes we were close.

By the way, I think it's hard to get any information out of a bet like this. If you really want to do an experiment, put more time and energy into it...
Good luck man!

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Curious to ask, did anyone ever try this out? it could work and also fall.

Did anyone try what exactly? To place a bet & lose... Many here are passionate gamblers, and I believe that many people from here have tried a lot of things. Normal & crazy bets, foolish & thoughtful, smart & stupid. And sometimes we had the luck to win, sometimes we were close.

By the way, I think it's hard to get any information out of a bet like this. If you really want to do an experiment, put more time and energy into it...
Good luck man!

I think he meant if any one else had tried betting on some sports games based on the results or what Ai predicted concerning that particular match..

But you are right though, we have a gambling community here on this forum who are indeed very passionate with gambling, and in our different quest to try to find out what works, would work or won't work, alot of us have tried alot of stuffs..
But there is one amazing thing with gambling though, and that is the fact that there were never permanent strategies, what a person tried and failed, another may try the same and likely win, it's all about who's lucky and who isn't.

[YOSHIE]

Curious to ask, did anyone ever try this out? it could work and also fall.

There is no experience in that matter, after all I have never gambled or placed bets using Al or Deepseek system, even though it happened that Al predicted indeed.

Instead I mostly won when placing sports bets such as football on the basis of my own predictions and analysis, but what happened to you is outside of our understanding, especially me personally, whether you happen to be your prediction lose and Al wins.

I think if you gamble often using Al, maybe you can consider your own previous events and your own bets, whether this is the first time this happens or often, the point is you can Consider more where to get a profit for you or yourself, What is clear is that I don't believe Al in any case.

[Zadicar]

Curious to ask, did anyone ever try this out? it could work and also fall.

Did anyone try what exactly? To place a bet & lose... Many here are passionate gamblers, and I believe that many people from here have tried a lot of things. Normal & crazy bets, foolish & thoughtful, smart & stupid. And sometimes we had the luck to win, sometimes we were close.

By the way, I think it's hard to get any information out of a bet like this. If you really want to do an experiment, put more time and energy into it...
Good luck man!

Trying out to seek out some answers will be that not be able to satisfy you because you do have those questions in mind about in regarding whether your bets or analysis do sucks and believe more on AI or not.

Its true that bettors will definitely be having this kind of approach on which they would be testing out multiple ways or methods or on whatever it would be as long they can be able to apply something and believe that they can make that win then they would definitely do it. Using up AI in regarding about your bet selections then it will be that up to you whether you do make use of it mainly or just for testing purposes.

If OP do find out that his analysis were not that good as AI then he could choose up on using it up instead. In overall there's no assurance about on winning and thats why its important
that you shouldnt be optimistic on it.

[iv4n]

Curious to ask, did anyone ever try this out? it could work and also fall.

Did anyone try what exactly? To place a bet & lose...

I think he meant if any one else had tried betting on some sports games based on the results or what Ai predicted concerning that particular match..

But you are right though, we have a gambling community here on this forum who are indeed very passionate with gambling, and in our different quest to try to find out what works, would work or won't work, alot of us have tried alot of stuffs..
But there is one amazing thing with gambling though, and that is the fact that there were never permanent strategies, what a person tried and failed, another may try the same and likely win, it's all about who's lucky and who isn't.

Oh, I completely understand what he meant... But what is the conclusion of what he wrote? What experiment is this? A ticket with two games, one predicted by the AI ​​and the other by the OP... and what happened? Why did the experiment with the AI ​​fail if it guessed correctly? Maybe the conclusion is that he should trust AI more than himself after losing his ticket for a game he chose. He needs to repeat the same process +10 times, one game predicted by AI and one by him... that could be something interesting.

I think there are many amazing things with gambling, that's why people love to gamble.