No Negotiations In Sight for Yemen USA-War

[caroasi]

March 15, 2025 the USA started a new war against Yemen without any known negotiations of any kind. No negotiations of any kind have occurred recently despite the war going on for over a month.

The stated reason of the war is to ensure ships can pass by Yemen without being attacked. For all we know, Yemen was ready and willing to let US ships pass through from the start, so the war was just about some sort of tactic of attacking unpopular people for emotional bullying reasons.

This seems to be Trump's worst moment of his political career, but was certainly something that could be anticipated as he is a politician now that he has been in the office for more than four years, and is no longer fully outside the establishment. Trump gets to 50% approval and then two months later he helps to start a war. That may not be a coincidence.

UPDATE: May 6, 2025, The USA has negotiated and end to the Yemen war, so that the conflict lasted a total of week less than two months. Trump did negotiate with the Houthis with very simple overall terms that the Houthis stop bombing the shipping lane in exchange for an end to the conflict a ceasefire agreement.

Source:
https://www.worthynews.com/104729-us-halts-bombing-of-houthis-in-yemen-following-ceasefire-deal

[pooya87]

The stated reason of the war is to ensure ships can pass by Yemen without being attacked.

And the real reason why US regime has been carrying out terrorist attacks against civilians in Yemen is to break the blockade Yemen is enforcing according to international law against Israel because of the genocide Zionists are carrying out in Gaza.

To put simply, Yemen is enforcing international law (genocide convention) and US regime is trying to prevent that in order to help Israel carry out genocide easier!

It is worth mentioning that marine traffic around Yemeni territorial waters has been normal for any ship that doesn't belong to or heading to Israel during the time Armed Forces of Yemen has been enforcing the genocide convention (which is about 1.5 years now).
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:44.4/centery:13.8/zoom:7

[franky1]

March 15, 2025 the USA started a new war against Yemen without any known negotiations of any kind. No negotiations of any kind have occurred recently despite the war going on for over a month.

the US is not at war with internationally recognised yemen

the US is attacking a small rebel group that has taken over an area of yemen. but these rebels are sponsored by iranian backers.
the rebels are not funded by the international recognised yemen government

the rebels go by the name houthi, (previously ansar allah) whom are shiite muslims
try not to confuse houthi's with yemeni (sunni majority) people

yes there are some yemeni people in the houthi occupied area where the innocent yemen people cant leave even when the houthi's are using them and their homes as human shields

the houthi's are a shiite muslim terror cult group that was previously called 'Ansar Allah' and since 2004 this terror cult group have been fighting AGAINST the natural yemen population that are majority sunni based

(analogy: its kind of like calling a catholic scotsman a christian englishman)

there are some silly people in this forum that think(well thinking is not the exact word id use for him) that the houthi terror group represents normal sunni majoriy yemeni peoples views, but they dont.. nor that of the internationally recognised yemen government

sunni(majority) and the real government of yemen are not the ones being targeted and attacked by the US
sunni(majority) and the real government of yemen are not the ones attacking the US

[caroasi]

March 15, 2025 the USA started a new war against Yemen without any known negotiations of any kind. No negotiations of any kind have occurred recently despite the war going on for over a month.

the US is not at war with internationally recognised yemen

the US is attacking a small rebel group that has taken over an area of yemen. but these rebels are sponsored by iranian backers.
the rebels are not funded by the international recognised yemen government

the rebels go by the name houthi, (previously ansar allah) whom are shiite muslims
try not to confuse houthi's with yemeni (sunni majority) people

yes there are some yemeni people in the houthi occupied area where the innocent yemen people cant leave even when the houthi's are using them and their homes as human shields

the houthi's are a shiite muslim terror cult group that was previously called 'Ansar Allah' and since 2004 this terror cult group have been fighting AGAINST the natural yemen population that are majority sunni based

(analogy: its kind of like calling a catholic scotsman a christian englishman)

there are some silly people in this forum that think(well thinking is not the exact word id use for him) that the houthi terror group represents normal sunni majoriy yemeni peoples views, but they dont.. nor that of the internationally recognised yemen government

sunni(majority) and the real government of yemen are not the ones being targeted and attacked by the US
sunni(majority) and the real government of yemen are not the ones attacking the US

Oh, the USA is militarily invading Yemen with the Air Force, but there is no war against Yemen? How would this fly if the Chinese airforce started dropping bombs on Chinese dissidents in the USA and blew up a dozen buildings? Would that be "not a war"?

Its so painfully obvious the USA is warring against Yemen, I hope you can see you are defining words the way you want them to defined to intentionally ignore that the USA constitution is being openly and flagrantly violated on a regular basis so that human rights can be violated.

We can both agree this is a war IN Yemen by the USA. So somehow there is a war IN Yemen by the USA without a declaration of war against Yemen or Yemenese people in specific. And we can both agree OTHER COUNTRIES would be warring against the USA if the moment one of their war machines entered without permission. Right?

The Yemen military campaign is especially offensive when you consider the shipping lane appears to have not been attacked lately at all. When is the last time the shipping lane was attacked? Last year? So the shipping lane gets attacked and you think a year later then you do something about it after there is nothing left to be done? Once again, it seems like brazen and open war for wrongful bullying purposes in addition to being very clearly unconsitutional as undeclared by USA congress.

[franky1]

the US and houthis are at war..
the houthi's did attack the shipping lane this year

why are you and pooya soo afraid to say the words houthi rebels
why even pretend the houthi's are just yemeni citizens

[caroasi]

the US and houthis are at war..
the houthi's did attack the shipping lane this year

why are you and pooya soo afraid to say the words houthi rebels
why even pretend the houthi's are just yemeni citizens

You bring up relevant points while conveniently avoiding all of my very important questions. Lets say the Chinese also hate Chinese dissidents for being for the freedom of hateful speech, a right more or less only supported broadly by the USA. If those people come into the USA, then spread hateful speech, can the Chinese bomb them without China being considered at war with the USA? Definitely not. If a Chinese military machine enters the USA, that is a war of China against the USA. I the USA enters Yemen with a military war machine without the permission of Yemen, that is a war against Yemen. Yes, the Yemen-USA war is also a war against the Houthis, and the the war is about the Houthis and their international shipping lane acts of war. I do not have  an unbalanced view of the situation. What I have is a moral demand that the USA government follow their own laws of war designed to respect human rights.

You claim there are attacks on the shipping lanes but actually they seem to have decreased to nearly zero from a statistics perspective:
Source: https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/houthi-shipping-attacks-patterns-and-expectations-2025

So, when was the last attack on international shipping lanes by the Houthis? Another important question.

[pooya87]

So, when was the last attack on international shipping lanes by the Houthis? Another important question.

It was when the last ship heading to Israel went through the Red Sea many months ago.

Yemen has been enforcing the Genocide Convention and since the ships heading to Israel don't enter Red Sea anymore, there has been no ship to seize or (if US intervenes) to hit according to international law.
Any other ship passes through safely like they have been for the past 1.5 years.

[franky1]

the houthi rebels have been hitting ships in 2025 but it has decreased for TWO reasons

one, ships avoid that area* and ALSO the houthi's are losing the battle, their bases have been hit and their munitions and weapons have been blown up
but as you can see by the attitude of rebel sympathisers like pooya. they would love to hit more ships.. if they could

similar idiot mindset as the US dems that damage tesla's because they pretend to be angry at doge and say how tesla is harming innocent people.. these idiots that think they are immune to consequence will always find something to be angry about

again notice how rebel sympathisers pretend that only innocent yemeni people are getting hit (the violin strokes of fake empathy) but they dont mention how many houthi rebels are hit and their bases and weapons

the houthi's are losing. iran is also pulling away from funding them. what will people like pooya have left to advocate for when the rebel terrorists are no more

*they shouldnt have to, apart from the terroristic atacks done on them to make them fear that area

[pooya87]

they would love to hit more ships.. if they could

Name a single ship that went through Bab al-Mandab to reach Israeli terrorists that you support over the past couple of months, and lets see if there were truly any target for Yemen to enforce international law on but they couldn't.

[covfefe_]

The world is biased. The west (Europe, US, Canada, Israel) don't even consider African and Middle Eastern people as lives. They don't count. They are not reported. Rest of Asian and South American's are somewhere in middle, not human enough but worthy of mentioning in news.
The only fight in their radar is Ukraine and Russia, which is near Europe as Europe can feel the effect of war.

The Houthi are just trouble in their view and they believe bombing them to dust would solve the problem. The reason why they are doing everything to stop Iran from making a nuke is a nuke would be a bigger trouble.

[franky1]

they would love to hit more ships.. if they could

Name a single ship that went through Bab al-Mandab to reach Israeli terrorists that you support over the past couple of months, and lets see if there were truly any target for Yemen to enforce international law on but they couldn't.

i dont support isreal or gaza or yeman or america..
im british. i support bitcoin and myself and thats all that counts

as for how many ships went through.. lets get into the more important details. between october 2024-march 2025 the houthis attacked 190 ships

as for your stupid calls about civilians of yemen and gaza

what is actually being attacked is the hamas rebels in gaza not the innocent gaza-ans...
what is actually being attacked is the houthi rebels in stolen territory of northern-yemen not the innocent yemeni people...
both rebel groups are(were) funded and lead by iranian interests

of course collateral damage occurs and innocents get harmed, but this is because hamas and houthi are the trouble makers that put innocents in the path of attacks

i can tell you support the iranian regime. i just support people looking beyond the lame media and to actually research whats actually happening in the world.
i do truly laugh each time you say "yemen" when you and i both know what you actually mean is the houthi rebels you adore whom the attacks actually involve.. because the greater wider area of actual yemani people whom dont want to be part of the conflicts are not the ones being targetted(unless captured by houthi's and used as human shields)

[pooya87]

In short by not being able to name a single ship in the past couple of months you just proved exactly what I said, the blockade that Yemen is enforcing on the terrorist regime of Israel that is found guilty of carrying out genocide in Gaza by International Criminal Court is working. No ship is passing the blocked sea route for them to seize or hit according to the international law and the genocide convention Yemen is enforcing.

i dont support isreal or gaza or yeman or america..
im british.

As a taxpayer in what you claim to be democracy and a member of NATO and also the key participant in illegal invasions of Iraq and Syria in coalitions named "Coalition of the Willing" and "Operation Inherent Resolve" that were designed to re-construct and re-brand al-Qaeda into ISIS in support of Israel, you cannot claim that you do not support the genocide and terrorist attacks in West Asian region whether by ISIS, Israel or al-Qaeda.

So when United States Director of National Intelligence confirms to the congress that they were supporting al-Qaeda in Syria and when Timber Sycamore files proved that with evidence, it is not just proving US was doing it. It also proves the "coalition" that includes England was up to their neck in it. All in support of Israel.

Not to mention that right now your country is one of the main supporters of the terrorist occupiers of Palestine and you have forces there on the ground participating in the genocide in Gaza, in addition to all the weapons, equipment, money, intelligence, ... that you are giving these terrorists.
So in a way, ICC is not finding Israel to be guilty of genocide it is also finding its supporters to be guilty of it as well.

Here's another example: this is YOUR diplomat that YOU elected rubbing shoulders with the new head of al-Qaeda branch and the second in command and a strong believer in and follower of Bin Ladan (the old head of al-Qaeda terrorist group). He is the head of a new terrorist group that was created with the help of NATO in support of Israel to secure the Eastern front (ie. Syria) for the Zionist occupiers of Palestine:


So when you claim you do not support these terrorist groups, you either have to claim you live in a dictatorship where you have no say in what the British regime does, or you have to claim that you are against the British regime. Which is it?
Of course you always choose the third option which is denying everything and sometimes going as far as saying terrorist groups like al-Qaeda aren't even terrorist groups!

[franky1]

In short by not being able to name a single ship in the past couple of months you just proved exactly what I said, the blockade that Yemen is enforcing on the terrorist regime of Israel that is found guilty of carrying out genocide in Gaza by International Criminal Court is working. No ship is passing the blocked sea route for them to seize or hit according to the international law and the genocide convention Yemen is enforcing.

i dont support isreal or gaza or yeman or america..
im british.

As a taxpayer in what you claim to be democracy and a member of NATO and also the key participant in illegal invasions of Iraq and Syria in coalitions named "Coalition of the Willing" and "Operation Inherent Resolve" that were designed to re-construct and re-brand al-Qaeda into ISIS in support of Israel, you cannot claim that you do not support the genocide and terrorist attacks in West Asian region whether by ISIS, Israel or al-Qaeda.

i do not support what you think i support.
also you do not know my tax status of how much i pay or not pay into the british system. again i said im a bitcoiner and i travel the world so dont buy much british stuff day-to-day. so get a hint on that one. yes there are unavoidable tax payments like vat(sales tax) an local property(council tax) for living here when i do.. but income tax and cap gains is not one of them. (if you know tax law, then you know)


i have said many times. that what should happen in relation to the middle east is that the area's of conflict EG gaza vs isreal.. ukraine vs russia
the direct neighbouring countries should be asked if they want to pick sides to support their neighbours.. whereby places like US and UK that are thousands of miles away should stay out of it
..
for instance. in gaza the hamas rebel group, should be dealt with with the same level of force as they have caused.. but the innocent gaza-an's civilians should not be left as hostages in warzone area's to sleep in tents, but instead housed by neighbouring countries willing to take them in and house them. even offered jobs rebuilding gaza. where gaza is rebuilt and the gaza-an's compensated for the war-time displacement and offered housing back in gaza.

for instance. in russia and ukraine, they come to some peace deal based on mutual benefit of themselves and their neighbours. not the benefit of countries thousands of miles away. and then have eastern ukrainians offered to rebuild their country where the displaced get first offering of the new housing when/if they wish to return to the area they left
..
my views is that the US&UK getting involved in the 1990's gulf wars(and even as far back as the ottoman empire days) was none of the UK business. the UK had plenty of oil from UK oil rigs in northern british isles, the UK did not need to come the middle east and take over middle eastern oil refineries and poppy fields
yes it caused tensions back then and the corporate take over of oil rich land turned to battles and then wars. but peacedeals, forgiveness, compensation and rebuilding should be the priority. not escalating new wars
..

so here is the thing
when iran then funds idiots of radicalisation groups such as the houthi's and hamas. to stir new trouble. peace becomes less attainable. old vengeance's cannot be forgiven, peace deals cant be made because new troubles have begun due to hamas and houthis and things escalate instead of de-escalate

so when houthis shoot civilian shipments in the red sea, of container ships belonging to distant countries. those distant countries become involved defending their property and so the tensions rise again

the houthi's are not peace loving people. they are a rebel group recently funded to escalate trouble at an international level.
..

in short:
get rid of hamas and houthi trouble makers and then get some peacetime deals done. rebuild, compensate and rehouse

if you imagine the houthis have their own country, government and are peaceful people wanting to support peace efforts of gaza. then the houthis should build their own ships. put food and aid resources on said ships and travel up the red sea and dock at the ports of gaza and aid the humanitarian effort of supplies.
and instead of taking in migrants as hostages. how about offer the innocent refugee's in tents in gaza to be rehoused, offering them jobs

[Hispo]

March 15, 2025 the USA started a new war against Yemen without any known negotiations of any kind. No negotiations of any kind have occurred recently despite the war going on for over a month.

The stated reason of the war is to ensure ships can pass by Yemen without being attacked. For all we know, Yemen was ready and willing to let US ships pass through from the start, so the war was just about some sort of tactic of attacking unpopular people for emotional bullying reasons.

This seems to be Trump's worst moment of his political career, but was certainly something that could be anticipated as he is a politician now that he has been in the office for more than four years, and is no longer fully outside the establishment. Trump gets to 50% approval and then two months later he helps to start a war. That may not be a coincidence.

Well, the war you are talking about it is not between the United States and the State of Yemen, but rather a rebel militia within Yemen which is receiving funding from states like Iran, so they can continue their operations in western Yemen and disrupt the navigation of Ships heading towards Israel. The United States considers the Houtis to be terrorists and the USA do not negotiate with Terrorists, they simply get blown up by drone strikes for the sake of freedom and democracy, I guess.

Still, what is going on in Gaza and the things which continue to take place in the middle east are just a disgrace, a stain which will be very difficult to explain in history books withiut being one-sided.

[franky1]

Well, the war you are talking about it is not between the United States and the State of Yemen, but rather a rebel militia within Yemen which is receiving funding from states like Iran, so they can continue their operations in western Yemen and disrupt the navigation of Ships heading towards Israel. The United States considers the Houtis to be terrorists and the USA do not negotiate with Terrorists, they simply get blown up by drone strikes for the sake of freedom and democracy, I guess.

to be more precise the houthi rebels are being funded from states like iran, so they HAVE TO cause chaos just to get paid. its like dnt do a job dont get paid. so they wont stop chaos just because the US says so.. the houthis care more about external funding than human lives

the EU/US/UK do no consider normal yemeni people terrorists. EU/US/UK consider just the houthi rebels as terrorists
the houthi rebels dont consider innocent yemeni people as their sisters or cousins, they consider them their shields and cannon fodder

[caroasi]

Well, the war you are talking about it is not between the United States and the State of Yemen, but rather a rebel militia within Yemen which is receiving funding from states like Iran, so they can continue their operations in western Yemen and disrupt the navigation of Ships heading towards Israel. The United States considers the Houtis to be terrorists and the USA do not negotiate with Terrorists, they simply get blown up by drone strikes for the sake of freedom and democracy, I guess.

to be more precise the houthi rebels are being funded from states like iran, so they HAVE TO cause chaos just to get paid. its like dnt do a job dont get paid. so they wont stop chaos just because the US says so.. the houthis care more about external funding than human lives

the EU/US/UK do no consider normal yemeni people terrorists. EU/US/UK consider just the houthi rebels as terrorists
the houthi rebels dont consider innocent yemeni people as their sisters or cousins, they consider them their shields and cannon fodder

You've revealed the hypocrisy and human rights violations here. Yes, if Yemen were to send their war machines anywhere in USA territory, the USA would immediately claim Yemen is in a state of war against the USA. You would know that and everyone else would know that. But, if the USA invades Yemen and bombs Yemen, a group of human rights violators claim that isn't a war against Yemen but rather a war against Houthi terrorists.

And so far during this entire war, exactly zero USA or allied ships are in the news as having been attacked by Houthis. So its really more of a bullying campaign than a war even ignoring the flagrant criminality of it. Any remotely reasonable person would have said war will be fought if and only if any further ships are attacked. And that is exactly why congress was not approached... they wouldn't approve it for that reason of the flagrant ignorance of the slightest opportunity of diplomacy.

Nobody in Yemen was likely even contacted before this corporate decision... it was just one of those corporate decisions made with flagrant disregard for others. It was a war by and for the military industrial complex... the idea of a lifelong bureaucrat, without any public discussion even considered at any point. It is sheer domineering as bullying as their is no peace offer of any kind available. Zero negotiations means zero ethical consideration.

[pooya87]

the hamas rebel group
gaza-an's civilians should housed by neighbouring countries
idiots of radicalisation groups such as the houthi's and hamas.
so when houthis shoot civilian shipments in the red sea

You say you don't support the Israeli terrorists and what the terrorists attacks NATO forces carry out against civilians and yet you are supporting it in your every word by repeating their propaganda and desperately trying to justify these terrorist attacks.

What are these groups you named? Why and when were were created? Have you even bothered to ever asked yourself that?
Here is a quick summary.
About 80 years ago the first Zionist terrorist cells were established inside Palestine. Terrorist cells which then formed a government and called themselves "Israel".


As the occupation of Palestine continued to grow like cancer and as the Israeli terrorists kept murdering unarmed civilians and took the Palestinian lands by force, Resistance was formed. That's the literal definition of the abbreviation you just used: H.A.M.A.S. in Arabic.
This Resistance group fights for liberation of their home from occupiers. And something you won't like to hear is that it is the legitimate government in Gaza elected democratically by the people of Gaza since 2007.
And yet you use the term "rebel group" used by Israeli terrorists to define them in order to justify the terrorist attacks against people of Gaza. Not to mention that neither the Zionist occupiers nor you are allowed to tell people of any country to "move out of their homes" and go somewhere else. It is the occupiers who have to go.

Ansarallah, which you call Houthis without even knowing the difference, is a deep rooted movement dating back 1100 years and had been rulers of Yemen for most of that duration. Ever since Saudi-US coalition invaded Yemen and slaughtered countless civilians for almost a decade, this movement gained popularity again and established the only legitimate government in Yemen specially when they were the only ones fighting the invaders. Another fact you didn't like to hear, I'm sure...
And of course since they are supporting Palestine and fight the US-backed terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and Israel, they are branded as "rebels" and even "terrorists" which you also repeat like a parrot to justify the terrorist attacks NATO is carrying out against the civilians in Yemen.

i dont support isreal or gaza or yeman or america..
im british. i support bitcoin and myself and thats all that counts

i do not support what you think i support.
im a bitcoiner and i travel the world

These pretty but empty words of yours are something diplomats use to fool the masses. They won't work here.
When in every single one of your comments you are repeating these propaganda terms and when you justifying the terrorist attacks against civilian targets like hospitals (which you have done multiple times in this board) you are effectively supporting the Zionist terrorists' and their atrocities.

if you imagine the houthis have their own country, government and are peaceful people wanting to support peace efforts of gaza. then the houthis should build their own ships. put food and aid resources on said ships and travel up the red sea and dock at the ports of gaza and aid the humanitarian effort of supplies.

And you continue proving that you have no understanding of the world (the same world you like to repeatedly claim to travel!) and the situation in West Asia whatsoever. You live in a dreamland under a rock apparently where the Israeli terrorists haven't been bombing any humanitarian aid they can that wants to enter Gaza in the ongoing starvation siege against Gaza!

Example? Last month marked the one year anniversary of one of Israeli terrorist attacks against one of these humanitarian groups, 3 of their victims were actually British! In what world do you live in that you think aid sent by Yemen will reach Gaza when the Israeli terrorist are murdering citizens of the countries that are supporting them ie the 7 below? The Israeli terrorists backed by NATO have been regularly bombing and destroying many of the shipments that try to get to civilians in Gaza and murdering international aid workers in the process!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491629.0

[franky1]

you are a great comedian but a poor researcher

houthis did not descend from some group from the 1100's they are a recent(few decades) creation that just named themselves after things that made them seem they are something they are not.... its a branding play
EG
elon musks tesla has no genetic or hereditary relation to nikola tesla

hamas does not represent all palestinians. hamas is a (recent decades) creation of a small faction of idiot puppets that are a rebel terrorist group

now have a read of this
https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf
and know that everyone knows that your adoration of the rebel terrorists cowardly tricks are not new.. everyone knows your rebel group uses innocent palestinians, immigrants and yemen people as human shields

hamas and houthis do not represent gaza and yemen. the terrorists just hide amongst them hoping they wont get hit
stop pretending that your support of rebel terrorists is equal to supporting the greater population of nations they cowardly hide within and use as shields

you dont care that innocents are being used as shields. you just care that your rebel terrorists are still being targeted even when your rebel terrorists use innocent people as shields. your cries are that your favourable terrorist groups are not left alone to cause chaos

[caroasi]

UPDATE: May 6, 2025, The USA has negotiated and end to the Yemen war, so that the conflict lasted a total of week less than two months. Trump did negotiate with the Houthis with very simple overall terms that the Houthis stop bombing the shipping lane in exchange for an end to the conflict a ceasefire agreement.

Source:
https://www.worthynews.com/104729-us-halts-bombing-of-houthis-in-yemen-following-ceasefire-deal

[mikeywith]

hamas and houthis do not represent gaza and yemen. the terrorists just hide amongst them hoping they wont get hit
stop pretending that your support of rebel terrorists is equal to supporting the greater population of nations they cowardly hide within and use as shields

This is a typical Western stereotype bullshit often repeated by people who don't know shit about the region.