Betcoin.ag scam accusation

[Betcoin.AG]

-SNIP

Was it a few public internet sources? Or was it in the discord you can no longer find? I know where it was from. It was easy to see, since your affiliate link has a total of 1 clicks. And it wasn't discord. You are embarrassing yourself, go away. We highly recommend that you stop creating accounts on Betcoin. We know for a fact that this isn't your first BitcoinTalk account or bogus scam accusation. You are no match for us. Tell your scammer friends, scammer. It will save you all some trouble, scammer.

[samk1m]

-SNIP

Was it a few public internet sources? Or was it in the discord you can no longer find? I know where it was from. It was easy to see, since your affiliate link has a total of 1 clicks. And it wasn't discord. You are embarrassing yourself, go away. We highly recommend that you stop creating accounts on Betcoin. We know for a fact that this isn't your first BitcoinTalk account or bogus scam accusation. You are no match for us. Tell your scammer friends, scammer. It will save you all some trouble, scammer.

LMAO. This literally makes no sense.

Let's just quickly walk through Betcoin's Greatest Hits:

First, I'm "suspicious."
Then my balance is "not mine but affiliate commissions" (which they paid, btw).
 Then my sole referral is "abusive."
 Oh wait now I'm the referral though?
 Then abruptly I'm somehow in the background of some else's KYC photo?
 And now they can magically look at the future with one click and follow me online?

Tell me, y'all does ANY OF THIS SOUND ON THE LEVEL TO YOU?
They've changed their tale six times. They never did post any one receipt, IP match, or real evidence. Just bombast, jargon, and an awful lot of "scammer" trash.

You took the referral. You credited the commission. And then you canceled when it was pay time. That ain't security that's plain theft.

Betcoin can't even get their lies consistent, and they're too arrogant to notice that people are figuring them out.

To the rest of the members reading:
Is this a legitimate fraud case or a casino attempting to avoid a $250 payment by yelling louder than the truth?

Because from my vantage point, it appears that Betcoin just robbed an affiliate and labeled it "terms of service

[Betcoin.AG]

We generated a random number 1-1000 and will be awarding $250 worth of BTC to the BitcoinTalk user with the closest guess! To enter, comment your number on this thread, with the words "samk1m the scammer sweepstakes". The user with the closest number will be chosen Friday, 9 May. BitcoinTalk account must have been created at least 1 month prior to today to be eligible.  Best of luck to all!

[samk1m]

We generated a random number 1-1000 and will be awarding $250 worth of BTC to the BitcoinTalk user with the closest guess! To enter, comment your number on this thread, with the words "samk1m the scammer sweepstakes". The user with the closest number will be chosen Friday, 9 May. BitcoinTalk account must have been created at least 1 month prior to today to be eligible.  Best of luck to all!

hahaha! Oh wow a sweepstakes with my username on it? Betcoin, you seriously whipped up something good this time. I'm dying. No really I haven't laughed this hard at comedy since your affiliate payout policy.

You clowns couldn't muster up a piece of evidence, so now we're at memes and middle-school jokes?
What's next, a TikTok dance called "How to Dodge a $250 Payout"?

Let's recap the comedy show for everyone:

First I'm "suspicious."
Then I'm a bogus referral.
Then I'm somehow included in someone else's KYC photo?
Now I'm the star of your circus contest? LMAOOO

And yet no single screenshot, no single IP match, no one actual shred of evidence to back up your mouth.
Just awful jokes and outlandish accusations sprinkled like confetti.

Here's what isn't funny:

You held out a legitimate $250 commission on an affiliate you solicited.
You wouldn't provide proof of wrongdoing.
And now you're acting like a Twitch streamer instead of a company.

You're not exposing a scammer. You're exposing YOURSELVES.

So hey thanks for the laughs.
You just made it a whole lot easier for people to see exactly what Betcoin is:

Not a platform. Not a company. Just a meme with a withdraw button.

[holydarkness]

I published the affiliate link in a few open internet spaces nothing in particular or personal. It was out there for whoever could see it, such as most affiliate links. I do not have one-click tracking, so I can not conclusively say where the user was from simply that Betcoin accepted the referral, awarded the commission, and later took it back without ever saying what rule supposedly had been broken.

The link was shared in a public channel on the Discord awhich is a massive, fast-moving server. Posts can be buried in minutes. I’m not going to scroll through weeks of noise just to satisfy Betcoin’s shifting narrative. That’s not how affiliate systems are supposed to work.

At this point I have to say I share the same thought with David. Which one is it? A few open internet spaces, nothing in particular or personal, that you can't recall it from the top of your head, or is it one specific internet space called discord? And why public channel with massive fast moving servers where posts can be buried in minutes? If you're really into affiliate. Or, further and more important question, given posts can be buried within minutes, how do one landed with your link? I mean, it's kinda blink-and-miss situation of a channel, based from your discord narrative. I am really interested to know further about this, if you don't mind to help us understand.

We generated a random number 1-1000 and will be awarding $250 worth of BTC to the BitcoinTalk user with the closest guess! To enter, comment your number on this thread, with the words "samk1m the scammer sweepstakes". The user with the closest number will be chosen Friday, 9 May. BitcoinTalk account must have been created at least 1 month prior to today to be eligible.  Best of luck to all!

hahaha! Oh wow a sweepstakes with my username on it? Betcoin, you seriously whipped up something good this time. I'm dying. No really I haven't laughed this hard at comedy since your affiliate payout policy.

[...]

That... I believe, is their way to tell you that they don't mind the amount disputed here, they're more than willing to part with the amount because they don't have any intention to rob people who are honest, and it barely put a dent in them. Just... not to a player who they believe tries to scam them. Thus, they gave it to others, the exact amount.

[khaled0111]

They made it clear that they don’t want you to play at their casino. According to their ToS they have every right to do so and you can’t complain about it.

You claim that one of your affiliates played there and that you’re owed affiliate commission ($250). Well, all they have to do is to show that your affiliate was also banned and that all of his deposits were refunded.
Let’s wait for Betcoin.ag’s response and see if they can confirm this..

[samk1m]

I published the affiliate link in a few open internet spaces nothing in particular or personal. It was out there for whoever could see it, such as most affiliate links. I do not have one-click tracking, so I can not conclusively say where the user was from simply that Betcoin accepted the referral, awarded the commission, and later took it back without ever saying what rule supposedly had been broken.

The link was shared in a public channel on the Discord awhich is a massive, fast-moving server. Posts can be buried in minutes. I’m not going to scroll through weeks of noise just to satisfy Betcoin’s shifting narrative. That’s not how affiliate systems are supposed to work.

At this point I have to say I share the same thought with David. Which one is it? A few open internet spaces, nothing in particular or personal, that you can't recall it from the top of your head, or is it one specific internet space called discord? And why public channel with massive fast moving servers where posts can be buried in minutes? If you're really into affiliate. Or, further and more important question, given posts can be buried within minutes, how do one landed with your link? I mean, it's kinda blink-and-miss situation of a channel, based from your discord narrative. I am really interested to know further about this, if you don't mind to help us understand.

We generated a random number 1-1000 and will be awarding $250 worth of BTC to the BitcoinTalk user with the closest guess! To enter, comment your number on this thread, with the words "samk1m the scammer sweepstakes". The user with the closest number will be chosen Friday, 9 May. BitcoinTalk account must have been created at least 1 month prior to today to be eligible.  Best of luck to all!

hahaha! Oh wow a sweepstakes with my username on it? Betcoin, you seriously whipped up something good this time. I'm dying. No really I haven't laughed this hard at comedy since your affiliate payout policy.

[...]

That... I believe, is their way to tell you that they don't mind the amount disputed here, they're more than willing to part with the amount because they don't have any intention to rob people who are honest, and it barely put a dent in them. Just... not to a player who they believe tries to scam them. Thus, they gave it to others, the exact amount.

Since many of you have taken interest in this, let me elaborate once again in easy terms.

I shared my referral link in a busy public Discord chat regarding crypto gambling. No, I don't control what gets clicked or ignored. That's how public discussions are. I didn't try to micromanage every non-click that isn't how affiliate links work. You share them out, and if someone finds value in the platform, they use it. That's exactly what happened here.

And regarding how the referral landed on my link you're talking to the wrong person. Ask Betcoin. They're the ones who tracked the user and claim to know so much. If they have such specific information, then surely they can give what abuse was perpetrated? Because until now, it's just been smoke, jokes, and defamation. Still waiting for real evidence.

They've made a $250 affiliate commission they won on their own platform and instead of paying like a reputable company, they've used my login name to organize a phony sweepstakes and resorted to ridicule on an open forum. Is that everybody's notion of professional behavior? Or at least some necessary?

If they were sincere and didn't have anything to conceal, why be hostile through sarcasm and personal attack when instead, show us what exactly my referral accomplished? "We don't want you here" is no cause for depriving someone of earnings.

I'll say it straight out: if Betcoin can demonstrate the abuse and not simply allege it I'll back off. But until then, I think other members here are entitled to form their own opinions as to whether this seems to be fraud prevention or just a poor cover story for denying payouts.

Thoughts?

[samk1m]

They made it clear that they don’t want you to play at their casino. According to their ToS they have every right to do so and you can’t complain about it.

You claim that one of your affiliates played there and that you’re owed affiliate commission ($250). Well, all they have to do is to show that your affiliate was also banned and that all of his deposits were refunded.
Let’s wait for Betcoin.ag’s response and see if they can confirm this..

You are right that Betcoin is able to decline service under their Terms of Service. I am not disputing any of this. What I am contesting is the retrospective withdrawal of pre-earned affiliate commission without evidence and in opaque fashion.

Facts as a sequence:

I was not prohibited from gaming.

I shared my referral link on public places.
Someone utilized it, deposited funds, gamed, and garnered affiliate commission under the website's own platform.

That referral was then taken, and I was told the referral was an "abusive player."

If Betcoin is claiming the referral was banned and refunded okay, then let's see that settled definitively. Dates, numbers, refunds not vague insinuation and public mockery.

And let's not forget either that instead of demonstrating facts or providing a support procedure, Betcoin instead chose to:

Publicly post a sweepstakes mocking my name,
Use insults and sarcasm as official duties, and

Charge me with multi-accounting with no provided evidence.

That's the real problem. Had this been an actual case of fraud, they would have processed it as one quietly and by documentation. They made it into a circus instead.

So, yes, I'm here waiting for them to substantiate their claims with hard evidence, not insults. I'm more than happy for other people in this thread to weigh in am I the only one waving the red flags?

[holydarkness]

Since many of you have taken interest in this, let me elaborate once again in easy terms.

I shared my referral link in a busy public Discord chat regarding crypto gambling. No, I don't control what gets clicked or ignored. That's how public discussions are. I didn't try to micromanage every non-click that isn't how affiliate links work. You share them out, and if someone finds value in the platform, they use it. That's exactly what happened here.

So that's it, you only share there? You try to get into an affiliate activity and you choose to spread your link in one media, only one, and a very busy channel that'll easily drown your chat. Not somewhere more quiet and personal and will bring more permanence like your Instagram, or work colleague? May I ask why?

Is it because you simply just randomly posting, couldn't care less who will use your link as you're not really investing into it?

And regarding how the referral landed on my link you're talking to the wrong person. Ask Betcoin. They're the ones who tracked the user and claim to know so much. If they have such specific information, then surely they can give what abuse was perpetrated? Because until now, it's just been smoke, jokes, and defamation. Still waiting for real evidence.

That's the problem, acccording to them, it's not discord. Thoughts?

[Betcoin.AG]

Great to hear that the Discord channel is so public. That means you can post the channel and we can find your content, using the handy search feature.

[samk1m]

Since many of you have taken interest in this, let me elaborate once again in easy terms.

I shared my referral link in a busy public Discord chat regarding crypto gambling. No, I don't control what gets clicked or ignored. That's how public discussions are. I didn't try to micromanage every non-click that isn't how affiliate links work. You share them out, and if someone finds value in the platform, they use it. That's exactly what happened here.

So that's it, you only share there? You try to get into an affiliate activity and you choose to spread your link in one media, only one, and a very busy channel that'll easily drown your chat. Not somewhere more quiet and personal and will bring more permanence like your Instagram, or work colleague? May I ask why?

Is it because you simply just randomly posting, couldn't care less who will use your link as you're not really investing into it?

And regarding how the referral landed on my link you're talking to the wrong person. Ask Betcoin. They're the ones who tracked the user and claim to know so much. If they have such specific information, then surely they can give what abuse was perpetrated? Because until now, it's just been smoke, jokes, and defamation. Still waiting for real evidence.

That's the problem, acccording to them, it's not discord. Thoughts?

Let's take a step back here.

Why am I being cross-examined in detail when I'm the one being accused? I'm not the casino. I don't have click logs, user tracking software, or IP records. Betcoin does.

They're the ones who are making the following accusations:

My referral is "abusive"

I'm somehow connected with that player

I'm trying some kind of scam

Okay. Then prove it.
Not with jokes. Not with sweepstakes posts making fun of my username.
With evidence.

Instead of answering the many obvious and direct questions others have asked (including calls to explain what specific "abuse" took place), Betcoin just keeps throwing out more insults, evasions, and distractions. They had no issue with the click and paying the affiliate commission until after did they reverse it and try to spin the story around.

So why is the defendant being asked to disprove something the accuser won't even define?

Until they can produce actual proof of abuse not just vague claims and deflection this is a case of wrongful seizure and public slander, as clear as day.

I'm happy to discuss, but only if the same degree of scrutiny is applied to Betcoin, not just me.

[holydarkness]

Since many of you have taken interest in this, let me elaborate once again in easy terms.

I shared my referral link in a busy public Discord chat regarding crypto gambling. No, I don't control what gets clicked or ignored. That's how public discussions are. I didn't try to micromanage every non-click that isn't how affiliate links work. You share them out, and if someone finds value in the platform, they use it. That's exactly what happened here.

So that's it, you only share there? You try to get into an affiliate activity and you choose to spread your link in one media, only one, and a very busy channel that'll easily drown your chat. Not somewhere more quiet and personal and will bring more permanence like your Instagram, or work colleague? May I ask why?

Is it because you simply just randomly posting, couldn't care less who will use your link as you're not really investing into it?

And regarding how the referral landed on my link you're talking to the wrong person. Ask Betcoin. They're the ones who tracked the user and claim to know so much. If they have such specific information, then surely they can give what abuse was perpetrated? Because until now, it's just been smoke, jokes, and defamation. Still waiting for real evidence.

That's the problem, acccording to them, it's not discord. Thoughts?

Let's take a step back here.

Why am I being cross-examined in detail when I'm the one being accused? I'm not the casino. I don't have click logs, user tracking software, or IP records. Betcoin does.

They're the ones who are making the following accusations:

My referral is "abusive"

I'm somehow connected with that player

I'm trying some kind of scam

Okay. Then prove it.
Not with jokes. Not with sweepstakes posts making fun of my username.
With evidence.

Well, isn't that what I've been trying to do? To prove and/or disprove your claim? Hence the questions? To zeroing into a proof that you indeed shared the link and the one you refer is not yourself or someone related to you.

Though I am fumbling in the dark here as I have two lead to chase. From you, a narrative that your ref is a stranger that stumbled upon your link in a fast moving, heavily populated, open channel on discord. From them, not discord.

Instead of answering the many obvious and direct questions others have asked (including calls to explain what specific "abuse" took place), Betcoin just keeps throwing out more insults, evasions, and distractions. They had no issue with the click and paying the affiliate commission until after did they reverse it and try to spin the story around.

Then, focus on me?

So why is the defendant being asked to disprove something the accuser won't even define?

Or... rather to prove the defendant's statement and turn it from hearsay to an evidence?

Until they can produce actual proof of abuse not just vague claims and deflection this is a case of wrongful seizure and public slander, as clear as day.

I'm happy to discuss, but only if the same degree of scrutiny is applied to Betcoin, not just me.

Ok sure, Betcoin.AG, according to  your system, you said that OP did not share on discord, do you mind to share your findings? In private through PM if you deemed it necessary to protect privacy and/or integrity of your system.

[Betcoin.AG]

@holydarkness We love you. We trust you. You know this. But you must also know that we have millions invested in our security systems and we cannot share the info. There was never really a need for your involvement in this one, as this a clearcut case, because of the way the ToS are worded. At this point we are just here to mock the OP because he is clearly a liar.
1. Why is he promoting a site that rejected his business?
2. In post #16, he said it's a public affiliate link. If it's public, why won't he share it?
3. In post #18 he said he posted it in a few open internet spaces
4. In post #20 he narrowed that down to a single Discord channel, but refuses to "scroll through weeks of noise", somehow forgetting that you can search for Discord posts in seconds.
5. In post #27 he says he doubles down on the public Discord channel, but still refuses to provide the channel.
@holydarkness see if you can get him to provide you the channel privately. That would solve everything,

@samk1m we are actually not the defendant. It is on you to provide proof that we somehow scammed you. And you haven't shown anything. In fact, if we hadn't replied and transparently provided the details of your bogus case, this thread would have ended Friday. Regardless of whether you are connected to the referral, he was found to be an abusive player and per our terms of service, you are not entitled to collect commissions from him.

But you are not a legitimate affiliate. We have sufficient, clear evidence that you are
1. An abusive player yourself
2. Directly connected to the referral and in the background his KYC video
3. Not on your first BitcoinTalk account
4. That you did not refer anyone from Discord

We would love nothing more than to publish this evidence and out this scammer, but unfortunately, this is information that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Not just to us but the hundreds of other operators, that we work with on a daily basis to share information about scammers like the OP. So people can trust us or they can trust him. It's up to them.  Maybe he's right and we stayed in business for 12 years, while never losing a single 3rd party mediation and resolving every case on this forum, just to confiscate his hard earned $250 referral money. We have already established our reputation. He is just some guy, who is supposedly making his first BitcoinTalk post. If someone reads this thread and decides they don't want to trust our affiliate program, because 1 guy had an issue with 1 referral, that is certainly up to them. But we would encourage them to speak to our hundreds of legitimate affiliates, referring legitimate players and earning many BTC each month.

Either way, the ToS are clear and he is entitled to nothing and will never see a dime from us.

[t3mpest]

@holydarkness We love you. We trust you. You know this. But you must also know that we have millions invested in our security systems and we cannot share the info. There was never really a need for your involvement in this one, as this a clearcut case, because of the way the ToS are worded. At this point we are just here to mock the OP because he is clearly a liar.
1. Why is he promoting a site that rejected his business?
2. In post #16, he said it's a public affiliate link. If it's public, why won't he share it?
3. In post #18 he said he posted it in a few open internet spaces
4. In post #20 he narrowed that down to a single Discord channel, but refuses to "scroll through weeks of noise", somehow forgetting that you can search for Discord posts in seconds.
5. In post #27 he says he doubles down on the public Discord channel, but still refuses to provide the channel.
@holydarkness see if you can get him to provide you the channel privately. That would solve everything,

@samk1m we are actually not the defendant. It is on you to provide proof that we somehow scammed you. And you haven't shown anything. In fact, if we hadn't replied and transparently provided the details of your bogus case, this thread would have ended Friday. Regardless of whether you are connected to the referral, he was found to be an abusive player and per our terms of service, you are not entitled to collect commissions from him.

But you are not a legitimate affiliate. We have sufficient, clear evidence that you are
1. An abusive player yourself
2. Directly connected to the referral and in the background his KYC video
3. Not on your first BitcoinTalk account
4. That you did not refer anyone from Discord

We would love nothing more than to publish this evidence and out this scammer, but unfortunately, this is information that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Not just to us but the hundreds of other operators, that we work with on a daily basis to share information about scammers like the OP. So people can trust us or they can trust him. It's up to them.  Maybe he's right and we stayed in business for 12 years, while never losing a single 3rd party mediation and resolving every case on this forum, just to confiscate his hard earned $250 referral money. We have already established our reputation. He is just some guy, who is supposedly making his first BitcoinTalk post. If someone reads this thread and decides they don't want to trust our affiliate program, because 1 guy had an issue with 1 referral, that is certainly up to them. But we would encourage them to speak to our hundreds of legitimate affiliates, referring legitimate players and earning many BTC each month.

Either way, the ToS are clear and he is entitled to nothing and will never see a dime from us.

wow,this response is crazy,i think guy is cooked
but how you figured out that this is not his first bitcointalk account?

[samk1m]

Since many of you have taken interest in this, let me elaborate once again in easy terms.

I shared my referral link in a busy public Discord chat regarding crypto gambling. No, I don't control what gets clicked or ignored. That's how public discussions are. I didn't try to micromanage every non-click that isn't how affiliate links work. You share them out, and if someone finds value in the platform, they use it. That's exactly what happened here.

So that's it, you only share there? You try to get into an affiliate activity and you choose to spread your link in one media, only one, and a very busy channel that'll easily drown your chat. Not somewhere more quiet and personal and will bring more permanence like your Instagram, or work colleague? May I ask why?

Is it because you simply just randomly posting, couldn't care less who will use your link as you're not really investing into it?

And regarding how the referral landed on my link you're talking to the wrong person. Ask Betcoin. They're the ones who tracked the user and claim to know so much. If they have such specific information, then surely they can give what abuse was perpetrated? Because until now, it's just been smoke, jokes, and defamation. Still waiting for real evidence.

That's the problem, acccording to them, it's not discord. Thoughts?

Let's take a step back here.

Why am I being cross-examined in detail when I'm the one being accused? I'm not the casino. I don't have click logs, user tracking software, or IP records. Betcoin does.

They're the ones who are making the following accusations:

My referral is "abusive"

I'm somehow connected with that player

I'm trying some kind of scam

Okay. Then prove it.
Not with jokes. Not with sweepstakes posts making fun of my username.
With evidence.

Well, isn't that what I've been trying to do? To prove and/or disprove your claim? Hence the questions? To zeroing into a proof that you indeed shared the link and the one you refer is not yourself or someone related to you.

Though I am fumbling in the dark here as I have two lead to chase. From you, a narrative that your ref is a stranger that stumbled upon your link in a fast moving, heavily populated, open channel on discord. From them, not discord.

Instead of answering the many obvious and direct questions others have asked (including calls to explain what specific "abuse" took place), Betcoin just keeps throwing out more insults, evasions, and distractions. They had no issue with the click and paying the affiliate commission until after did they reverse it and try to spin the story around.

Then, focus on me?

So why is the defendant being asked to disprove something the accuser won't even define?

Or... rather to prove the defendant's statement and turn it from hearsay to an evidence?

Until they can produce actual proof of abuse not just vague claims and deflection this is a case of wrongful seizure and public slander, as clear as day.

I'm happy to discuss, but only if the same degree of scrutiny is applied to Betcoin, not just me.

Ok sure, Betcoin.AG, according to  your system, you said that OP did not share on discord, do you mind to share your findings? In private through PM if you deemed it necessary to protect privacy and/or integrity of your system.

@holydarkness Let’s recap. It is me who has been accused. My funds were taken, but I guess, somehow, I must be the one proving everything. Betcoin, in the meantime, declared $250 in earned affiliate commission as the public joke of the day and is now sticking to vague accusations and claims that cannot be verified. They accuse me of being in the referral's KYC video however, I did not even complete KYC myself on their site. This fact only, should be enough for a red flag. They claim I didn’t post the link on Discord, yet they don’t want to say where it purportedly came from. They say my referral is connected to me no proof. No detail. Just “trust us.” They claim there was abuse but won’t define what the abuse actually was. And when asked for answers? They release memes, divert attention, and now assert that I will never see any cash. You have asked me why I shared the link on a Discord server that was on the go. Because that's where I was frequently active. That's not breaking any rules. And I would like to emphasize: if I earned $250, it is because the referred player lost more. Betcoin gained first and only after that moved the goalposts. Honestly speaking, this is not a matter of policy. It is a matter of power. They have taken the money. They run the platform. And now they have figured it out. It is easier to be ridiculous than to show proof. So I ask you, face to face: Is it relevant to you to have this condition? Because an operator can take commissions without showing any evidence, and in addition, they defame the user by refusing transparency; this is not only my concern. Every affiliate should worry about this matter. @holydarkness, you have established trust in this place. Do not allow them to burn it down to cover their tracks.

[Betcoin.AG]

It is me who has been accused. My funds were taken, but I guess, somehow, I must be the one proving everything.

Correct, it is your accusation. You have never even posted proof that you had a Betcoin account or that you received an affiliate commission. All of that information was volunteered by us.

Betcoin, in the meantime, declared $250 in earned affiliate commission as the public joke of the day and is now sticking to vague accusations and claims that cannot be verified.

They have been and certainly can be verified, as stated. You are welcome to contact an accredited 3rd party mediator or our licensor any time.

They accuse me of being in the referral's KYC video however, I did not even complete KYC myself on their site.

You didn't do KYC with us. But you have done it elsewhere. We know who you are and what you do.

They claim I didn’t post the link on Discord, yet they don’t want to say where it purportedly came from.

You sent it to your friend after you got permanently banned from placing a bet because we knew you were a scammer the moment you signed up.

They claim there was abuse but won’t define what the abuse actually was.

Your "friend" is welcome to inquire about his own account. He knows what the abuse is. So do you. But it is irrelevant in this case, per the ToS.

You have asked me why I shared the link on a Discord server that was on the go. Because that's where I was frequently active.

No one ever asked you that. All Discords are "on the go". You were asked to provide a link to the Discord. With that information, anyone could easily find the link you posted. But you are a scammer, so you can't post that link. Post it now and prove us wrong forever. Clear this up. All you need to do is post the Discord and you will make us look like fools!!

Is it relevant to you to have this condition?

Absolutely. And we have been in business for 12 years, with countless affiliates and you are the first one ever to dispute an abusive player's commissions. EVER. All of this AFTER being denied the ability to play with us. You are pathetic. We will not waste any more time on you. Have fun finding a new job now that your scams have been exposed to all. You could have just quietly faded off and been onto your next site, but you fucked with the wrong guys this time and now your whole operation is toast.

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