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May 06, 2025, 07:50:01 AM
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It would be a black swan event. How catastrophic it would be depends on wider market conditions and a key question:
- Was there a reason for their dump, or their own decision?

If there was a problem with BTC that caused them to sell, the market could flood with other corporate holders following suit, not to mention others (depending how significant the issue is). Though if there wasn't a real reason and it was their own decision, other corporate holders might scoop up the coins, and it might be a temporary (but sizeable) dip.

MSTR's reputation would be destroyed instantly either way, given Saylor's ongoing statements that the company will never dump.

Their influence is so huge since they are the top institution holds a lot of Bitcoin so it will be a catastrophic event as you said especially that the market would provably dump more since it will create a huge panic like it will spread around the world and cause a major dump for Bitcoin.

I also guess they only decide to do it, if they encounter major financial issue. But if nothing like this exist and they are still in best position I guess that dumping will never happen and its better for people thinking about that to stop stressing their selves on situation which didn't happen yet.

Their company and Saylor's name will get destroyed if this situation happen. Also for sure it will give them lots of problem.

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May 06, 2025, 07:56:26 AM
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^ MS won't do things that would hurt them in the long run, just like any company.

There is no scenario where they are dropping their bags just because.

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May 06, 2025, 08:18:37 AM
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The price will down for sure but that will not happen too long. The price will be up again and there is a chance for the price to increase higher than before.

As long as you don't panic, you will see the benefit you can use for yourself. You will see the time to buy back at a lower price so you will have a chance to have more Bitcoin. Besides that, you don't have to worry although there is possibility happen in the future. You should manage your emotion and not think that too much.

Calm down and always search for the benefit so you will get something good for you. No need to think what others do but you should think what you can do in that situation.
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May 06, 2025, 08:58:42 AM
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?

Could that be a black swan event?

The very thought is unsettling.

What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?

Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?

If that were to happen, it would be negative for the Bitcoin market and the crypto market as a whole, as it would cause a psychological effect on investors and cause many people to sell their Bitcoins. But the Bitcoin market has been through worse than this scenario, so I think the Bitcoin market will recover in time, but the losses in the market will be significant.

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May 06, 2025, 09:22:04 AM
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?

Could that be a black swan event?

The very thought is unsettling.

What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?

Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
As of April 28, 2025, MicroStrategy owns 553,555 bitcoins. If they decided to dump all of their Bitcoins, this means that they are about to suddenly offer the public to buy half a million Bitcoins. Is it easy to sell half a million Bitcoins at all once? No, they won't be able to sell half a million Bitcoins for the current price, it will crash the price, which will cause a loss for MicroStrategy. They are not here for loss, they are here for profit, so, that won't happen. If anything, they'll sell a few hundred or thousand coins and not half a million coin because if they really decide to sell 500K, they'll lose and in the end, the market will recover while they'll end up with loss.

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May 06, 2025, 09:34:46 AM
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If that were to happen, it would be negative for the Bitcoin market and the crypto market as a whole, as it would cause a psychological effect on investors and cause many people to sell their Bitcoins. But the Bitcoin market has been through worse than this scenario, so I think the Bitcoin market will recover in time, but the losses in the market will be significant.

I don't see it happening.

It wouldn't benefit them in the long run.

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May 06, 2025, 11:47:33 PM
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It would be a black swan event. How catastrophic it would be depends on wider market conditions and a key question:
- Was there a reason for their dump, or their own decision?

If there was a problem with BTC that caused them to sell, the market could flood with other corporate holders following suit, not to mention others (depending how significant the issue is). Though if there wasn't a real reason and it was their own decision, other corporate holders might scoop up the coins, and it might be a temporary (but sizeable) dip.

MSTR's reputation would be destroyed instantly either way, given Saylor's ongoing statements that the company will never dump.

Their influence is so huge since they are the top institution holds a lot of Bitcoin so it will be a catastrophic event as you said especially that the market would provably dump more since it will create a huge panic like it will spread around the world and cause a major dump for Bitcoin.

I also guess they only decide to do it, if they encounter major financial issue. But if nothing like this exist and they are still in best position I guess that dumping will never happen and its better for people thinking about that to stop stressing their selves on situation which didn't happen yet.

Their company and Saylor's name will get destroyed if this situation happen. Also for sure it will give them lots of problem.

It's unlikely for them to encounter any kind of financial issue given how their company and debt are structured. Custody might be a risk but I'd say that's unlikely. MicroStrategy should do well until 2027+ if BTC does too, seems Saylor has figured out the play.
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May 07, 2025, 01:32:49 AM
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Funny enough, for them to sell, means there were buyers to buy and hence bitcoin is still in circulation but the downturn will be that, some people would definitely panic sell but it’s all needed in the process, meanwhile, majority will still be holding down too tight especially @JayJuanGee and the host of others would definitely still be holding without even been startled but rather see more opportunities to buy more.

The truth is, as a core believer of bitcoin, a downfall in price couldn’t be a cause for alarm to panic sell but rather an opportunity to buy at more cheaper prices because definitely, it will bounce back to a more better price and there have been cases in the past, when major holders sold major of their coins and the market was startled but it later recover when even a new ATH.

What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?

Could that be a black swan event?

Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
As of April 28, 2025, MicroStrategy owns 553,555 bitcoins. If they decided to dump all of their Bitcoins, this means that they are about to suddenly offer the public to buy half a million Bitcoins. Is it easy to sell half a million Bitcoins at all once? No, they won't be able to sell half a million Bitcoins for the current price, it will crash the price, which will cause a loss for MicroStrategy. They are not here for loss, they are here for profit, so, that won't happen. If anything, they'll sell a few hundred or thousand coins and not half a million coin because if they really decide to sell 500K, they'll lose and in the end, the market will recover while they'll end up with loss.
Yeah but let’s be on same assumption page with op and assume they are willing to sell their half a million bitcoin and there are people to buy, definitely, they will be selling at a loss because the price of the coin will be dropped causing microstrategy  to be in loss and just as we all know that, from the initial, they came in to make profit and there shouldn’t any reasonable thing that would prompt them to just wake up and decide to sell their coins all at once at a loss because to sell should quantity, then it will be auctioned.

 
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May 07, 2025, 02:14:50 AM
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If MicroStrategy sells all his bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will only be affected temporarily and after a while, the price will go back to normal because other investors will buy them. Just like in the last quarter of last year that Germany government sold all the bitcoin seized from movie2k, the price was down for a while but we were able to see a new ATH.

Not everybody will panic and sell a good asset like bitcoin when they're seeing the benefits of buying and hodli bitcoin written on the wall. Don't think about too much so that you don't get discouraged of starting your Bitcoin investment immediately.
Example of German government selling Bitcoin they took shows that even when many Bitcoin is sold at once the price might go down for bit but then it usually goes back up because other people will buy it. We even saw price reach new high after that.
Your idea that not everyone would get scared and sell their Bitcoin which many people think is good investment is good. More and more people understand good things about buying and holding Bitcoin for long time.
People should think about investing in Bitcoin for long run and not worry too much about price going up and down quickly because of big sales.

 
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May 07, 2025, 03:06:42 AM
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If MicroStrategy sells all his bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will only be affected temporarily and after a while, the price will go back to normal because other investors will buy them. Just like in the last quarter of last year that Germany government sold all the bitcoin seized from movie2k, the price was down for a while but we were able to see a new ATH.

Not everybody will panic and sell a good asset like bitcoin when they're seeing the benefits of buying and hodli bitcoin written on the wall. Don't think about too much so that you don't get discouraged of starting your Bitcoin investment immediately.

The German government holds only 50kBTC and is worth over $2 billion, their dumping also caused panic in the market while MicroStrategy holds over 500kBTC (2% of the supply) and is worth almost $50 billion. If they dump massively, the panic could increase tenfold or more. Worse still, if they don't sell BTC via OTC but sell directly on exchanges, this will drain market liquidity and panic will peak.
Bitcoin will recover for a while after that, but that will be a very bad scenario, not as simple as other dumps we have experienced.

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May 07, 2025, 03:55:36 AM
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MSTR makes plenty of money by simply issuing or selling shares of its stock,
so there is never any need for them to sell the underlying bitcoin.

But if you still find yourself in great fear of such an unlikely scenario occurring, I would suggest
not investing in something as volatile as bitcoin and especially don't invest in MSTR
which is even more volatile. You will not be able to sleep at night.

You will just end up panic selling at a loss whenever you see the price going down.

Agreed. Nerves are the killer of any investment, and the more you think about the possibilities, the more likely you are likely to act irrationally.

It should be pointed out that the shares of bitcoin belong to the shareholders.
So MicroStrategy can't just dump all their bitcoin whenever they feel like it.
They can't sell what they don't own. Michael Saylor himself owns less than 10%
of outstanding shares so he can only dump that many in the worst case scenario.

So to my knowledge the doomsday scenario presented by the OP is not even possible.

 

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Good buying opportunity is all I think about when I hear about microstrategy potentially dumping all its Bitcoin. Remember that Bitcoin has never really been through a serious recession/depression. When the next big recession happens it wouldn't be surprising to see the Bitcoin price go down and since microstrategy is heavily leveraged they would be more affected than average by a big downturn. I think we could see sub $10k Bitcoin at some point in the future and that would obliterate microstrategy. So for the people that are liquid at that time it will be an awesome buying opportunity. Maybe we'll see drop to $10k then a run up to $1 million per btc  Grin

I believe the government along with blackrock and other entities are also greatly manipulating btc now and they have some vested in btc dumping, most likely so they can corner more supply. The government and their fiat banking system always pull this bs so it's not surprising to see them try the same thing here, they are toxic to bitcoin and people shouldn't have cheered on them getting involved. Funny thing is Saylor and microstrategy were one of the biggest cheerleaders of the government getting involved into Bitcoin because he thought they would help him. Then at Trumps crypto day he was facepalming when he saw what Trump was doing. That is a little foreshadowing of what will happen. The governments manipulating will be one reason bitcoin has a downturn and that in turn will lead to microstrategy getting obliterated. Moral of the story is government lovers and fiat lovers will get owned so never cheer the government on or you'll get what's coming to you.
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With that type of thought process, no company would survive, which is why they would never do that or the chances are very slim. But even if they do, someone will buy and that will raise the price back upwards again.

Understand that dumping means selling at a price lower than the market price to get rid of that asset as soon as possible. If someone offers bitcoin at 500$/BTC, someone will buy it and then they will sell the same at raised price. That buyer might not want to sell them right away as well. So a lot of possibilities are there and the market crashing away is only transient and a wet dream for those who are waiting for it.

 
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?

Could that be a black swan event?

The very thought is unsettling.

What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?

Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?

1.Selling large amounts of BTC at once is a really stupid move. Even if Microstrategy had decided to sell their BTC, they would sell small amounts every other day, instead of selling everything in one day. There's no point dumping the market and pushing the BTC price down.
2.Microstrategy is the most bullish BTC investment fund in business. They claim to be the most hardcore BTC HODLers in the world. I don't think that they would risk ruining their reputation. Big institutional investors don't act like retail investors. Such big investors simply don't panic, when something happens on the market.
3.Even if a massive selloff occurs, the price would eventually recover, since the demand for BTC won't slow down in the long term.

 
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With that type of thought process, no company would survive, which is why they would never do that or the chances are very slim. But even if they do, someone will buy and that will raise the price back upwards again.

Understand that dumping means selling at a price lower than the market price to get rid of that asset as soon as possible. If someone offers bitcoin at 500$/BTC, someone will buy it and then they will sell the same at raised price. That buyer might not want to sell them right away as well. So a lot of possibilities are there and the market crashing away is only transient and a wet dream for those who are waiting for it.
The impact is actually back to the Microstrategy not to bitcoin because in the end they will start the most extreme way of doing the plan if in the end they think of selling bitcoin directly without thinking about what happens later.

Bitcoin will indeed have a short-term impact due to volatility which of course it cannot be separated but this kind of impact is normal especially this is a short-term condition that will definitely occur but of course the bigger impact in the end is on Microstrategy because after all the medium or long term they will feel a big impact even though for the short term they will not be bothered by it.
But on the other hand in the end this is just a supposition because with the current situation we must realize that Saylor is clearly still a maximalist and he will never give up his overall ownership because he realizes the consequences and impact will be much greater than imagined.

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With that type of thought process, no company would survive, which is why they would never do that or the chances are very slim. But even if they do, someone will buy and that will raise the price back upwards again.

Understand that dumping means selling at a price lower than the market price to get rid of that asset as soon as possible. If someone offers bitcoin at 500$/BTC, someone will buy it and then they will sell the same at raised price. That buyer might not want to sell them right away as well. So a lot of possibilities are there and the market crashing away is only transient and a wet dream for those who are waiting for it.

Yep, if MS wanted to do something like that, they wouldn't do it in one swift go - they will probably prolong the period in which their BTCs would be dumped.

And then again.. the reason to do so would be very sharp for them, to say the least.

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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?

Could that be a black swan event?

The very thought is unsettling.

What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?

Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
I think you're exaggerating. Institutional investors don't invest in bitcoin to sell all their bitcoin at one point. Let's say MicroStrategy sells bitcoin. OK. And then what? Do you think this company will hold these assets in the form of traditional money? Of course not. Because these guys know as well as bitcoin? I don't see any alternatives yet, which means MicroStrategy will probably continue to hold bitcoin.

Are you talking about panic? There have already been several events in the cryptoindustry that could have caused panic, but institutional investors continue to hold bitcoin. The collapse of FTX didn't force them to do this, right. Therefore, this scenario is unlikely, or there must be an event that will put an end to the future of bitcoin. But as you can see, the development trend of bitcoin now looks positive, because not only institutional investors, but entire countries are expressing interest in investing in bitcoin.

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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?

Could that be a black swan event?

The very thought is unsettling.

What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?

Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
I think you're exaggerating. Institutional investors don't invest in bitcoin to sell all their bitcoin at one point. Let's say MicroStrategy sells bitcoin. OK. And then what? Do you think this company will hold these assets in the form of traditional money? Of course not. Because these guys know as well as bitcoin? I don't see any alternatives yet, which means MicroStrategy will probably continue to hold bitcoin.

Are you talking about panic? There have already been several events in the cryptoindustry that could have caused panic, but institutional investors continue to hold bitcoin. The collapse of FTX didn't force them to do this, right. Therefore, this scenario is unlikely, or there must be an event that will put an end to the future of bitcoin. But as you can see, the development trend of bitcoin now looks positive, because not only institutional investors, but entire countries are expressing interest in investing in bitcoin.

Great view on it.

MS knows that the more they hodl and wait patiently - the better, and even though there may be pullbacks and so much more, it will be worth it, and the results from doing so would be much bigger than to close up and cash out once (even though, as it was said - there is always a possibility of such an event too).

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I wouldn't panic if Microstrategy, decides to dump all it's Bitcoin because I believe that the impact will be for a short term. Bitcoin has always recovered when it's hit by any major dump, we have seen it happen in the past and it'll continue to happen in the future. What is important is that the adoption of Bitcoin is increasing and many investors are getting in, both retail and institutions. With the potentials of Bitcoin as a store of value I don't think that an institution like Microstrategy, will dump it's stash on the market. Bitcoin has made a name for itself as an asset that will continue to be profitable on the long term so nobody will want to selloff.

 
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^ MS is, at that point, synonymous with BTC and with what the company mainly does and is praised for.

I don't think they will change their course that abruptly, because there is much to do rather than drop their bags..

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