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Author Topic: BETPANDA scammed me for over 3000$, ignored for 7 months  (Read 591 times)
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May 09, 2025, 02:50:19 PM
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Hello,

Apologies for the delayed reply and the inactivity of our Support in replying to your case.

However, the details I can provide you with are as follows:

The clause of our Terms & Conditions which was breached is the following one:

5. ANTI-FRAUD POLICY

In the interests of fair play, it is not permitted to utilise or deploy any novel or recognised betting techniques while using our services which are designed to circumvent the standard house edge in our casino games nor the sportsbook. Should we detect that You have engaged in any activity of this nature, we may immediately suspend, terminate or restrict access to Your Account and/or retain any funds on the account.


Our Sportsbook provider Betby carries out the investigation and gives us general information of the outcome, so I can only share with you the information which they provide us. They informed that they detected multiple suspicious bets of varying nature flagged, which led to the investigation.

We do understand that this is not the outcome you were looking for, but unfortunately the Terms have been breached and this is the end result.


Proof? Return my deposit?

Every single complaint i see agaisnt you, the casino claims fraud AND NEVER returns the deposit.

No proof whatsoever given yet again.

Ridiculous scam casino.
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May 09, 2025, 04:32:42 PM
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Proof? Return my deposit?
Every single complaint i see agaisnt you, the casino claims fraud AND NEVER returns the deposit.
Unfortunately, you aren't going to get the refund of your deposited funds. Because you have placed bets with your funds instead of just making a deposit and withdrawal Smiley. They have this unfair strange rule. They always failed to provide the proof to the mediators. Perhaps, they haven't replied to your complaints on Askgamblers and CasinoGuru for this reason.

Above all, can you tell us one thing here: were you ever limited or restricted by any sportsbook which use Betby as its odds provider?

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May 09, 2025, 06:14:46 PM
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Proof? Return my deposit?

Every single complaint i see agaisnt you, the casino claims fraud AND NEVER returns the deposit.

No proof whatsoever given yet again.

Ridiculous scam casino.

Can you tell us more about your betting preferences? What kind of game are you placing your bets on? I know you don't have access to your account anymore, so posting screenshots of those betting habit is impossible, but perhaps you have similar activities in other casinos? Which access to the betting history you can provide? It might help us gain a better insight for their basis of allegation.

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May 09, 2025, 10:23:22 PM
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Proof? Return my deposit?

Every single complaint i see agaisnt you, the casino claims fraud AND NEVER returns the deposit.

No proof whatsoever given yet again.

Ridiculous scam casino.

Can you tell us more about your betting preferences? What kind of game are you placing your bets on? I know you don't have access to your account anymore, so posting screenshots of those betting habit is impossible, but perhaps you have similar activities in other casinos? Which access to the betting history you can provide? It might help us gain a better insight for their basis of allegation.
Whenever a casino terminates access from the user they wouldn't have any right to access the site till unless they decides otherwise and gives consideration to the user. Currently the gambling site has already given their views it's clearly started that before a casino decides to restrict or halt any amounts on gambling site there is always a reason for them to carry out such action.

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May 10, 2025, 08:09:54 AM
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Can you tell us more about your betting preferences? What kind of game are you placing your bets on? I know you don't have access to your account anymore, so posting screenshots of those betting habit is impossible, but perhaps you have similar activities in other casinos? Which access to the betting history you can provide? It might help us gain a better insight for their basis of allegation.

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Here you go, active betting account on the same provider (betby)

Whenever a casino terminates access from the user they wouldn't have any right to access the site till unless they decides otherwise and gives consideration to the user. Currently the gambling site has already given their views it's clearly started that before a casino decides to restrict or halt any amounts on gambling site there is always a reason for them to carry out such action.

Yes the reason for a site to scam my deposit is simple, to pocket my money and pay for marketing to gather more people to scam. You would understand you are a paid shill yourself
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June 03, 2025, 07:22:55 PM
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Managed to get my contact on BetPanda to look into this case on CG and AG, and they promptly reach AG with their findings and basis for rulings. I was just informed by my contact minutes ago that AG has verified the data, and their ruling is as below:




Last they informed me, they're also reaching CG to clarify their situation, as an attempt to fix the piling issues here. I doubted CG will care much, though, given it's sports-related. If CG ever make a ruling, I'll add that to the list too. Currently, with above, I shall mark this case as resolved in my next weekly update.

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June 03, 2025, 08:16:25 PM
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~snip~
Finally, we can see some effective movement from Betpanda team. They had changed their deposit rollover requirement terms yesterday by listening to the feedback of forum members (which isn't perfect yet). And today they have also resolved a complaint by providing evidences to the mediators. Still, one thing isn't good there, the deposit confiscation rules. They haven't changed it yet, OP isn't going to get the refund as Betpanda team acted according to the terms. But other sportsbooks refund the deposit of the users in most of the cases, isn't it?

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June 04, 2025, 04:47:36 AM
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~snip~
Finally, we can see some effective movement from Betpanda team. They had changed their deposit rollover requirement terms yesterday by listening to the feedback of forum members (which isn't perfect yet). And today they have also resolved a complaint by providing evidences to the mediators. Still, one thing isn't good there, the deposit confiscation rules. They haven't changed it yet, OP isn't going to get the refund as Betpanda team acted according to the terms. But other sportsbooks refund the deposit of the users in most of the cases, isn't it?

I'd like to see and hope that it's their attempt to improve themselves and repair their reputation here. About refund, I'd like to see and treat it differently than other cases recently emerged amongst casinos due to Betby mischief. This one was flagged months ago, when Betby is still... at whatever state they were months ago. Thus, there is a big likelihood that the findings on this matter was not baseless like other recent cases, that OP did violate some rules. And with that, I'd have to agree with AG that BetPanda acted according to their rules by confiscating the fund.

On neighboring thread, though, I am currently trying to convince my contact to wiggle their pocket and reimburse. Not fair for them, as it's betby's decision and mischief, not theirs, and they have to pay from their own pocket for basically Betby's call. But it's even more not fair for the player, as he's [quite likely] the total and real and absolute victim here. Thus, I am trying to convince my contact to do the right thing with that case. This one, though, I think their call is justified, as per AG's findings and validation.

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June 06, 2025, 10:26:35 AM
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OP, I understand you so well — you're not the only one, and I'm afraid you won't be the last either.
I too have been fighting this battle (here) for months, but unfortunately without any results.
I hope that Bitpanda, as mentioned (here), will review its terms and reconsider our situations.

But other sportsbooks refund the deposit of the users in most of the cases, isn't it?
Yes, all of them






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June 06, 2025, 02:07:27 PM
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They are thieves mate. Simply like this. How the hell can you "confiscate" the deposits of someone?
It's crazy...
Nobody can see this as normal, except Holydarkness of course.
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Here is the list of bitcointalk users that I can find that are currently paid to shill for this scam and may even own the scam themselves:

1. logfiles
2. Ultegra134
3. Wiwo
4. memehunter
5. Reynaldo
6. _BlackStar
7. khaled0111
8. DYING_S0UL
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Here is the list of bitcointalk users that I can find that are currently paid to shill for this scam and may even own the scam themselves:

1. logfiles
2. Ultegra134
3. Wiwo
4. memehunter
5. Reynaldo
6. _BlackStar
7. khaled0111
8. DYING_S0UL
Tag them all, and get them all arrested, mate, haha,, i am tired of seeing your retarded comments tagging everyone in the forum for one casino and the other, so this is not new, and the best thing to do right now is to place you on my ignore list so i dont see all this you soams that you posts around this forum. Grin Grin

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July 13, 2025, 08:16:20 PM
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Here is the list of bitcointalk users that I can find that are currently paid to shill for this scam and may even own the scam themselves:

1. logfiles
2. Ultegra134
3. Wiwo
4. memehunter
5. Reynaldo
6. _BlackStar
7. khaled0111
8. DYING_S0UL
Tag them all, and get them all arrested, mate, haha,, i am tired of seeing your retarded comments tagging everyone in the forum for one casino and the other, so this is not new, and the best thing to do right now is to place you on my ignore list so i dont see all this you soams that you posts around this forum. Grin Grin

if i get them all arrested the police sirens will sound like 'wiwo' 'wiwo' 'wiwo'
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July 14, 2025, 05:13:42 AM
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if i get them all arrested the police sirens will sound like 'wiwo' 'wiwo' 'wiwo'
You're right, we own the casino but we're acting like we're advertising it to fool noobs like you for their pennies. It seems to be working quite well so far *sarcasm*. You're either trolling or you're that ignorant and naive, that I cannot describe what fits you most.

You've earned a rightful spot in my ignore list, and I believe that you're actually the first person to enter; you're doing an excellent job!

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July 14, 2025, 04:54:29 PM
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if i get them all arrested the police sirens will sound like 'wiwo' 'wiwo' 'wiwo'
You're right, we own the casino but we're acting like we're advertising it to fool noobs like you for their pennies. It seems to be working quite well so far *sarcasm*. You're either trolling or you're that ignorant and naive, that I cannot describe what fits you most.

You've earned a rightful spot in my ignore list, and I believe that you're actually the first person to enter; you're doing an excellent job!

i really dont know who owns the casino since the casino's anonymity policy only applies to it's owners lol. im on your ignore list? how splended, i've won the internet good sir
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July 21, 2025, 04:34:49 AM
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$3000 is  a lot of money i think betpanda should respond.
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July 21, 2025, 09:45:50 AM
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$3000 is  a lot of money i think betpanda should respond.

Betpanda aren't going to respond they've ripped off thousands of people in the same way. Suggest complaining to Betby's CCO personally: c.nikolopoulos@betby.com
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July 21, 2025, 02:19:38 PM
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$3000 is  a lot of money i think betpanda should respond.

Betpanda aren't going to respond they've ripped off thousands of people in the same way. Suggest complaining to Betby's CCO personally: c.nikolopoulos@betby.com
Yes, i want to a-log them so hard that all these bitcointalk shills stop being paid and betpanda goes unfunctional
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