Is it possible to be a long-term profitable sports bettor without being able to

[Mia Chloe]

I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you.

I do understand your point. However one thing you also have to understand is the fact that your winnings are not a 100% dependent on your ability to strategize or your ability to forecast bets either. They are only contributors to your final chances of winning. No matter the game, you still require luck to pull off a win as long as it is a gambling activity especially in cases where the winning chances are thin.

Luck is very important in gambling because even when you try to manage risks, you may seem smart at first but you could be shocked later on to discover that you end up in losses if a net sum is done.

[Woodie]

Let's just say gambling is funny, if say for example you support Arsenal FC and they happen to play... Don't use emotions and back your favourite team, if your gut feeling says they are losing do go for the money and bet against them, I repeat don't use emotions lol.

On the issue of profitability, well let's just say we have people that know their sport and make money from it...then there are others that use mathematics to make money and btw this is deemed illegal by some bookie's, otherwise it's not everything about sporting knowledge of becoming profitable

[_act_]

Luck is very important in gambling because even when you try to manage risks, you may seem smart at first but you could be shocked later on to discover that you end up in losses if a net sum is done.

I have good time while betting but it is filled with losses. My losses are much more than my winnings but as I bet more than gamble and bet not frequently but on matches like the yesterday Champions League, I was able to win but a little more than my losses. What I noticed is that if I bet frequently, I lose more often. What I know is that this year can still end up in me losing more than winning while gambling. Gambling is unpredictable is what I will say and gamblers should not expect money from gambling.

[Cryptomultiplier]

Let's just say gambling is funny, if say for example you support Arsenal FC and they happen to play... Don't use emotions and back your favourite team, if your gut feeling says they are losing do go for the money and bet against them, I repeat don't use emotions lol.

On the issue of profitability, well let's just say we have people that know their sport and make money from it...then there are others that use mathematics to make money and btw this is deemed illegal by some bookie's, otherwise it's not everything about sporting knowledge of becoming profitable

This was just the kind of scenario I found myself in during last night's game between Arsenal and PSG of which Arsenal failed to progress by a conceded lone goal. While I actually hinted in this part was because a friend of mine during the evening before the game asked the opinion of all of us seated in parliament, which to between both teams to bet on. I kept mute knowing that I would have easily supported Arsenal and am sure he would have gone with it, but am sure at the end of game, I felt relief in not placing that bet because I would have naturally bet on Arsenal to beat PSG but boy was I wrong...lol.

That's why I think emotional placing a bet on any team, rather than to go with statistics and facts is a great way to not be a long term profitable sports bettor/gambler and it would tell sooner than later.

[Lannakosa]

I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you. Risk management and money management are also unlikely to help you win. All this will only allow you to lose your money a little slower, but will not help you win. The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

The ability to determine a winning bet is the most important thing in betting, you can manage your budget well, observe all the risks, but you are right that this will only help you lose your deposit more slowly, without winning bets. And this can only depend on the player, I don’t even know if this can be taught, this must be achieved independently, it is either given to the player or not. On the other hand, if the player has this property but does not know how to manage the budget and takes unnecessary risks, then he will also not be able to achieve earnings in gambling, so in order to make a profit in such a complex matter, the player must have all these qualities.

[stompix]

I've joined premium forecasters in the past and believe me they have been accurate for some time, but later a new change begins that in a complete week all they forcasted went wrong and people started leaving the channel.

This made me believe that there is no expert anywhere, what will play out is not been determined by the forcaster but those in action, and the result will either be right or wrong.

Go and use tipser websites, not temporary channels on Telegram.
There are plenty of those who have been around for more than 4-5 years and you can check all their prediction and rate of success, with stats and everything. not just people who throw away predictions like machine gun fire.

On the issue of profitability, well let's just say we have people that know their sport and make money from it...then there are others that use mathematics to make money and btw this is deemed illegal by some bookie's, otherwise it's not everything about sporting knowledge of becoming profitable

How can a bookie who takes sports bet even discover you're using mathematics to bet?
Do you actually have any examples of a bookie banning someone because they used statistics to bet on a team or event?

[AVE5]

One thing I've noticed in many years of gambling is that quality forecast does not guarantee wins, it may increase your confidence in your bets, but in the end, luck and grace decides your fate.

No doubt. Nomatter how much good or highily quality with logical strategies of forecasting of games in gambling, it only optimizes the anxieties of your expectations to win while your efforts remains unguaranteed to provide your expectations.
Winning in gambling Is never pegged on hardworking but luck except for the skillful games which you don't contend with the house edge but a one on one physical games that're played with friends.

[Woodie]

On the issue of profitability, well let's just say we have people that know their sport and make money from it...then there are others that use mathematics to make money and btw this is deemed illegal by some bookie's, otherwise it's not everything about sporting knowledge of becoming profitable

How can a bookie who takes sports bet even discover you're using mathematics to bet?
Do you actually have any examples of a bookie banning someone because they used statistics to bet on a team or event?

Isn't talking about it kind of encouraging someone out there to go for it ?? When the bookie holds on to their funds wouldn't you feel guilt being the person that held the container of gasoline while giving a lighter to the other guy...

And I know you know what am talking about   Arbitrage betting...

[Zwei]

On the issue of profitability, well let's just say we have people that know their sport and make money from it...then there are others that use mathematics to make money and btw this is deemed illegal by some bookie's, otherwise it's not everything about sporting knowledge of becoming profitable

How can a bookie who takes sports bet even discover you're using mathematics to bet?
Do you actually have any examples of a bookie banning someone because they used statistics to bet on a team or event?

just check the scam accusation board. casinos that use sports betting providers like Betby ban and restrict players all the time for "sports fraud". if you are arbitrage betting/value betting or you have a consistent edge against them you are gone, if they don't ban you, they limit you to like $2 bets.
as for how they can tell you are using math to bet, they have shit ton of data that they feed into their algorithm to find people doing this, and with AI, it's even easier to detect now.

[Agbamoni]

I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you.

Neither emotion, discipline or quality forecast will help you win. You need to ask yourself how do you identify a quality forecast from one that is of less quality? The answer is of no way. Our forecast is uncertain even when we think it is of great quality. Gambling is luck so whenever we trust our instinct we should also expect that a loss is still possible. Emotions and discipline might triggers a safe way of gambling, yet it doesn't still guarantee you  a win, although it helps in reducing the risk we take.

[topbitcoin]

What is certain is that for things like this I believe that things like this are still speculative. it is true that in the end the predictions and applications that we make of course make a very good thing especially for the measure of self-confidence. But it cannot be denied that until now gambling remains a condition where luck is an element that will not be defeated by anything so we cannot let go of it even if it is in a bet that we know we have to be active there.

For me, such things as predictions etc. are just like suggestions that we make to convince ourselves that in the end gambling can still run with this and the final result depends on whether the suggestions we make are accompanied by luck or not.

[Asiska02]

The quality level of the forecast is mostly affected by the accuracy and reliability of the information that is available to the bettor. Well, it's clear to anyone that there is no more accurate and reliable information than inside information. Thus, it is highly likely that any randomly selected long-term successful bettor is not an analytical genius, but an ordinary insider. However, I have already written about this in one of the previous threads on a similar topic. By the way, a systematic insider is not a random person, it's a person embedded in a match-fixing system.

This is a very big offense in sports but I usually have a feeling that they don’t really exist much and it will make winning games by bettors very hard and the few that always have a consistent wins got that mostly by luck and not an insider information. I think this also happens to be the reason why players are not allowed to gamble so that they don’t play in favour of the games they’ve bet on. Match fixing is a game that happens mostly in this unpopular leagues and don’t usually happen in the populous leagues we know about because of the gravity of the offence. That means that forecast is not enough to be a consistent bettor but having a more insider information will make you a more consistent winner than just basing it on merely luck.

[Lanatsa]

One thing I've noticed in many years of gambling is that quality forecast does not guarantee wins, it may increase your confidence in your bets, but in the end, luck and grace decides your fate.

Having quality forecast depends highly on your knowledge about the teams in contention, their goal scoring, square play, attacking, defensive and even their individual players abilities and even teams form coupled with historic data of their recent meetings. These would enable you make sound judgement from carefully thought out facts, but in the end it's never a guarantee for a win, but of course increases your chances.

For a long-term profits or net profits, it's rare to come by from just forecast except for the exceptionally lucky ones who are very few. Most people who achieve this long-term profitability are those who have insider information on fixed matches, mostly from less popular leagues. Most random gamblers are in net losses

Talking about on general aspect on which we do know that luck factor will always be the deciding factor for us to win but in comparing on how much luck we do need with sports betting than with casino games on which there's that significant differences too on which even we do speak about forecast then it will be that will relevant on the moment that you do deal up with sports betting. It is really just that some bettors do just simply skip out or having that not serious approach towards it and just that focusing a little bit of information on which at the time that they do sees out that its enough then they will be able to make out some finalization in regarding into their choices on which this is where each bettor will differ out when it comes to this manner. Long term profitability will be basing up on different factors on how a bettor will be able to choose up his bets.

In overall, cant be able to deny that luck factor will always be having that huge role when it comes on winning up a bet. Profitability will be that depending or basing up on how careful you are on choosing up your bets and with applying out some analysis into it on which it will be always that significant. If you do find yourself having that good winning rate with the current strategies that you are using then better stick into that.
Each bettor does have its own approach and on the actions that they are taking basing up on their decisioning.

[m2017]

I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you. Risk management and money management are also unlikely to help you win. All this will only allow you to lose your money a little slower, but will not help you win. The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

If someone has a method for making quality forecasts, they will never announce it publicly. Because this is the key to success in betting. Who would want to reveal their secrets? Of course, no one in their right mind would do this.

But I have serious doubts about the existence of such working methods, because for a quality forecast it is necessary to take into account and analyze a large flow of information, which may sometimes be insufficient. That is, when forecasting, you can miss one seemingly insignificant detail, but it is this insignificant information that will radically change the outcome of the event.

I would say this: give me a forecasting method with 100% probability and I will become the master of bets.

[Woodie]

On the issue of profitability, well let's just say we have people that know their sport and make money from it...then there are others that use mathematics to make money and btw this is deemed illegal by some bookie's, otherwise it's not everything about sporting knowledge of becoming profitable

How can a bookie who takes sports bet even discover you're using mathematics to bet?
Do you actually have any examples of a bookie banning someone because they used statistics to bet on a team or event?

just check the scam accusation board. casinos that use sports betting providers like Betby ban and restrict players all the time for "sports fraud". if you are arbitrage betting/value betting or you have a consistent edge against them you are gone, if they don't ban you, they limit you to like $2 bets.
as for how they can tell you are using math to bet, they have shit ton of data that they feed into their algorithm to find people doing this, and with AI, it's even easier to detect now.

Spot on @Zwei the evidence is there everywhere, am pretty sure a human too can read between the lines what's happening on the players profile...and the pattern can tell if a user is arbitrage betting/value betting .

Just out of curiosity, stompix do you sport bet no offence  

[Roseline492]

A forecast is a forecast, nothing but a prediction still, it's left for you to use your head though, if you risk too much all because the forecast is from strong source you will lose all your money.
Even if a forecast is from a realiable source you must still use your head and risk only what you can afford to lose, because at times they will be wrong, games do change when you don't expect.

We don't even have a reliable resource in gambling were a good prediction will be made, so actually if there is anybody who claims to be one it should be highly neglected but the problem is the unimaginable extent some gamblers can go because I want to share what a gambler did and also to no if you have seen a gambler like that before because I saw someone who use a million in my country fiat to purchase a game online with a high belief that the source is very realistic but I disagree with the person, so is that really the extent people can go just to gamble knowing that if the game lose they will not only loss the money but also the ones they are using to play the purchased game.

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Why not ?
Here I have another question that do those who have won by betting on sports for a long term or those who bet on sports most of the time know about the future? Or are they astrologers who know everything about the result of any match?

I am asking like this, because there are many matches where the weak team defeats the team that is in the best form or the champion team at that time. It has happened to me many times that I have chosen the strong team for betting due to my confidence thinking that the weak team is the one and later unfortunately due to bad luck the weak team wins that match and I lose. If the same thing happens to a long term sportbet winner, then of course he can also lose his entire fund. There is nothing surprising in this.

[Smartprofit]

In my opinion, in order to make a quality forecast regarding sports betting, you need to have information that other people who participate in gambling do not have.

For example, you may personally know the players of a sports team or the coach of a sports team. This will allow you to receive exclusive information first-hand.

Is it possible to make a quality forecast by receiving information from the Internet? In my opinion, this is impossible.

It is unlikely that you are able to analyze information better and faster than a bookmaker. Especially if the bookmaker uses a company of professional analysts, artificial intelligence, etc. In my opinion, the lack of exclusive first-hand information about the real state of affairs in a sports team makes you the same player as everyone else. At the same time, sports betting differs very little in terms of effectiveness from games based solely on luck, such as roulette.

[Churchillvv]

Of course you're right on this thoughts, it's absolutely nothing to have all the discipline and the rest of the gambling related considering for gamble in place without food ability to forecast or predict a close to success matches, if you can predict better your likely to make more money, have more fun in gambling than someone who is only disciplined with strategy. It's more about having a better advantage with information and giving better chance to predict games, as long as you're predicting better you will win better.

You need to read, understand, watch and listen to information
s that can help you gain more understanding about teams and how well they can perform against it other on e yiu know this you will keep winning and predicting good games.

[Zlantann]

I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you. Risk management and money management are also unlikely to help you win. All this will only allow you to lose your money a little slower, but will not help you win. The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

In sports betting, mastering the skills of predicting games is paramount to having an enjoyable gambling experience. If you don't know how to make match predictions, you might be frustrated. Emotional control, money management, and so on will not be attained except the gambler understands how sports betting works. These days, it is not difficult to get fairly sound predictions since numerous sports prediction sites offer these services. Since money is involved, gamblers should focus more on developing prediction strategies that will help them win games. Gambling could be less entertaining if losing becomes consistent.