I like to get married without having children.

[Kavelj22]

Are there women who share this perspective? Where or how can I find one? (I know this is bitcointalk not tinder hhh). Why should the concept of commitment extend to procreation as if it were a natural outcome when we are the ones who decide that?

Btw, i live in arabic country with conservative culture. Marriage and having children is a must for everybody and people don't even dare to discuss such topics. What do you think guys?

Not wanting kids doesn’t mean you don’t appreciate love or commitment. It basically means you know yourself and what kind of life you want. In a conservative community it’s undoubtedly tougher to locate someone who shares that perspective but that doesn’t imply those people don’t exist. It’s just unusual and maybe more hidden. I respect that you’re being honest with yourself instead of pretending to fit into a box that isn’t for you.

Actually, not wanting children means that you don't know yourself very well. Life is built around procreation. Not having children doesn't mean that you don't want them. It simply means that there are reason why you think having them isn't practical at the time.

Except for an extremely few people, anybody who has real security in life recognizes that he wants children.

I don't understand why someone would post their personal opinions as if they were established scientific facts that are beyond dispute. My friend, this is called personal preference, and there are many people who have the financial, physical, and psychological capacity to have children and raise them, but would rather not do so and spend their time on other tasks. Other people prefer to adopt children rather than have more. Another type of person prefers to have children and even adopt orphans. Another type of person wants to have only one child, while others prefer to have an infinite number. If each of them imagines that they alone are right, they will inevitably see the others as wrong, and this will spark pointless discussions. It's just like religion dialogue, when each adherent of a particular religion thinks that their religion is the correct one, that their god is the true God, and that all other religions are wrong and that they should follow the same religion. While the truth is that we are different and diverse in our doctrines, beliefs, and convictions, and that is life; we cannot all be the same color, especially if our convictions do not harm anyone.

Personally, I believe it is wise to adopt a philosophy of anti-natalism, better than having children when we cannot guarantee that we will truly be able to raise them until they mature.

[BADecker]

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Actually, not wanting children means that you don't know yourself very well. Life is built around procreation. Not having children doesn't mean that you don't want them. It simply means that there are reason why you think having them isn't practical at the time.

Except for an extremely few people, anybody who has real security in life recognizes that he wants children.

I don't understand why someone would post their personal opinions as if they were established scientific facts that are beyond dispute. My friend, this is called personal preference, and there are many people who have the financial, physical, and psychological capacity to have children and raise them, but would rather not do so and spend their time on other tasks. Other people prefer to adopt children rather than have more. Another type of person prefers to have children and even adopt orphans. Another type of person wants to have only one child, while others prefer to have an infinite number. If each of them imagines that they alone are right, they will inevitably see the others as wrong, and this will spark pointless discussions. It's just like religion dialogue, when each adherent of a particular religion thinks that their religion is the correct one, that their god is the true God, and that all other religions are wrong and that they should follow the same religion. While the truth is that we are different and diverse in our doctrines, beliefs, and convictions, and that is life; we cannot all be the same color, especially if our convictions do not harm anyone.

Personally, I believe it is wise to adopt a philosophy of anti-natalism, better than having children when we cannot guarantee that we will truly be able to raise them until they mature.

What does science have to do with it? Except for the literal engineering facts, science is as much of a religion as any 'god' religion. The differences with science are that men are trying to make themselves into God through their understanding of how things work, and that much of science opinion is controlled and manipulated by the wealthy elite. This means that anybody who bases his thinking on science is simply expressing a religious position or opinion just like anybody who presents a God opinion.

As far as gods go, the religion of Ancient Israel as expressed in the Bible is a religion of power. Moses did miracles from God that few others have matched since. And the apostles after the time of Jesus did many other miracles. And that is to say nothing about Jesus, himself. The Bible is a record, not a 'science' fiction writing.

Further, the Bible is a coherent writing over a 1,500 time-period. It is about salvation for mankind that was done by God, Himself, through His Son Jesus. There is no other religion like it. Certainly not science. You can tell by the many people who die in hospitals believing in medical science.

As far as this topic goes, consider the greatest pleasure that everybody has. It's the pleasure of having sex. Sex is the method for procreation. People who want to have sex without having children, are bypassing what the whole system was created for. Pleasure in sex is an inducement to have children, because that is what the whole sex pleasure is for. People who can't put 2 and 2 together about this are simply dense.

[philipma1957]

I don't like having children. It's easy and doesn't require much philosophizing and interpretation. For this reason, most of my relationships with women have failed to develop into a formal relationship. For me, marriage is all about finding a true life partner to share our ups and downs, and that's enough. Just as I don't like to be tied down to someone who is too attached to her family, I also don't like having children who might one day tire me out or whose rights I might have neglected. Don't call me a "pessimist," because I know circumstances change, and what's best for me today isn't guaranteed tomorrow, no matter how many guarantees there are. These are personal beliefs and preferences, and unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there are women who share my perspective, and most, if not all, consider marriage as a means of procreation.

Are there women who share this perspective? Where or how can I find one? (I know this is bitcointalk not tinder hhh). Why should the concept of commitment extend to procreation as if it were a natural outcome when we are the ones who decide that?

Btw, i live in arabic country with conservative culture. Marriage and having children is a must for everybody and people don't even dare to discuss such topics. What do you think guys?

I think you are a responsible person.  My kids all died I am 68 my wife is 69 so kids are not happening.

Being with my wife since our 1986 marriage has had its share of good and bad.

We wanted kids

We were expecting kids 3 times

They all died in miscarriages.

I have zero issue with you not wanting children.

Anyone that thinks you are immature or not ready does not know that for sure.

But your country if it is Arab and muslim wants kids to be born.

You will likely need to leave it as if you decide to stick to your guns and do not make kids people will think less of you.

Good luck in your decision whatever it is.

May Allah allow you to do what it is you have to do.

[Kavelj22]

I don't like having children. It's easy and doesn't require much philosophizing and interpretation. For this reason, most of my relationships with women have failed to develop into a formal relationship. For me, marriage is all about finding a true life partner to share our ups and downs, and that's enough. Just as I don't like to be tied down to someone who is too attached to her family, I also don't like having children who might one day tire me out or whose rights I might have neglected. Don't call me a "pessimist," because I know circumstances change, and what's best for me today isn't guaranteed tomorrow, no matter how many guarantees there are. These are personal beliefs and preferences, and unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there are women who share my perspective, and most, if not all, consider marriage as a means of procreation.

Are there women who share this perspective? Where or how can I find one? (I know this is bitcointalk not tinder hhh). Why should the concept of commitment extend to procreation as if it were a natural outcome when we are the ones who decide that?

Btw, i live in arabic country with conservative culture. Marriage and having children is a must for everybody and people don't even dare to discuss such topics. What do you think guys?

I think you are a responsible person.  My kids all died I am 68 my wife is 69 so kids are not happening.

Being with my wife since our 1986 marriage has had its share of good and bad.

We wanted kids

We were expecting kids 3 times

They all died in miscarriages.

I have zero issue with you not wanting children.

Anyone that thinks you are immature or not ready does not know that for sure.

But your country if it is Arab and muslim wants kids to be born.

You will likely need to leave it as if you decide to stick to your guns and do not make kids people will think less of you.

Good luck in your decision whatever it is.

May Allah allow you to do what it is you have to do.

This is one of the most wise and mature answers I've read on this topic, demonstrating great maturity and life experience. I know you Philip as an active member on the forum and always read your posts, but this is the first time I've learned you're in your seventies. I'm so sorry for the loss of your three children. I believe it's one of the hardest things anyone can experience in their life, and I appreciate your patience and your wife's acceptance of your fate with a big heart. Life has never been fair.

I share many points with those who don't want to have children (Anti-Natalism), as they believe it's unfair to bring more children into the world when there are still children in need of care.
I also have my own opinion, which is consistent with my personal circumstances, as I cannot guarantee a good life for my son in my current circumstances. Yes, I have a job, have my own home, and a steady income, but the general situation is not conducive to anything. The situation in Arab countries has become somewhat frightening due to political dictatorship and the spread of wars and armed conflicts everywhere. I cannot guarantee my son a good living condition in my country, and I cannot leave for a better place.

Those of you who see the war in Gaza and how people are dying from hunger, lack of medicine, and the lack of hygiene facilities, including toilets, bathrooms, and even drinking water, do you think Gaza is a suitable place to give birth and raise children? I believe it is a crime for someone to give birth under such conditions. Unfortunately, births have not stopped, and people are having sex under the bombardment, giving birth to babies who die a few days later under the rubble. I am not a resident of Gaza, but it is a good example to put the concept of procreation under the microscope of reason and morality, even for once.

[philipma1957]

I don't like having children. It's easy and doesn't require much philosophizing and interpretation. For this reason, most of my relationships with women have failed to develop into a formal relationship. For me, marriage is all about finding a true life partner to share our ups and downs, and that's enough. Just as I don't like to be tied down to someone who is too attached to her family, I also don't like having children who might one day tire me out or whose rights I might have neglected. Don't call me a "pessimist," because I know circumstances change, and what's best for me today isn't guaranteed tomorrow, no matter how many guarantees there are. These are personal beliefs and preferences, and unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there are women who share my perspective, and most, if not all, consider marriage as a means of procreation.

Are there women who share this perspective? Where or how can I find one? (I know this is bitcointalk not tinder hhh). Why should the concept of commitment extend to procreation as if it were a natural outcome when we are the ones who decide that?

Btw, i live in arabic country with conservative culture. Marriage and having children is a must for everybody and people don't even dare to discuss such topics. What do you think guys?

I think you are a responsible person.  My kids all died I am 68 my wife is 69 so kids are not happening.

Being with my wife since our 1986 marriage has had its share of good and bad.

We wanted kids

We were expecting kids 3 times

They all died in miscarriages.

I have zero issue with you not wanting children.

Anyone that thinks you are immature or not ready does not know that for sure.

But your country if it is Arab and muslim wants kids to be born.

You will likely need to leave it as if you decide to stick to your guns and do not make kids people will think less of you.

Good luck in your decision whatever it is.

May Allah allow you to do what it is you have to do.

This is one of the most wise and mature answers I've read on this topic, demonstrating great maturity and life experience. I know you Philip as an active member on the forum and always read your posts, but this is the first time I've learned you're in your seventies. I'm so sorry for the loss of your three children. I believe it's one of the hardest things anyone can experience in their life, and I appreciate your patience and your wife's acceptance of your fate with a big heart. Life has never been fair.
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I share many points with those who don't want to have children (Anti-Natalism), as they believe it's unfair to bring more children into the world when there are still children in need of care.
I also have my own opinion, which is consistent with my personal circumstances, as I cannot guarantee a good life for my son in my current circumstances. Yes, I have a job, have my own home, and a steady income, but the general situation is not conducive to anything. The situation in Arab countries has become somewhat frightening due to political dictatorship and the spread of wars and armed conflicts everywhere. I cannot guarantee my son a good living condition in my country, and I cannot leave for a better place.

Those of you who see the war in Gaza and how people are dying from hunger, lack of medicine, and the lack of hygiene facilities, including toilets, bathrooms, and even drinking water, do you think Gaza is a suitable place to give birth and raise children? I believe it is a crime for someone to give birth under such conditions. Unfortunately, births have not stopped, and people are having sex under the bombardment, giving birth to babies who die a few days later under the rubble. I am not a resident of Gaza, but it is a good example to put the concept of procreation under the microscope of reason and morality, even for once.

Gaza is so sad and the real sin is nice climate a beautiful place made into a hell by human sins.


I have watched wars happen since then1960s it amazes me that people kill so much and are so violent.

I spent 5 years in the navy . I saw all kinds of people all  over the world . It would be nice to see people be less harsh to each other.

But it is more likely I will hit 2 solom blocks mining tonight 
Please take care.and I hope things work out for you.

[RealNoblee]

In my view, getting married and don't like to have children or having children and don't want to get married all depends on individuals

Marriage is a unique thing and it's the Creators concept as it's stated in:

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

So also procreation is the Creators concept as state in:

Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
and
Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

So it all depends on what you want.

[BADecker]

I think that what OP really means is that he wants a flower girl at his wedding. 

[Hispo]

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Are there women who share this perspective? Where or how can I find one? (I know this is bitcointalk not tinder hhh). Why should the concept of commitment extend to procreation as if it were a natural outcome when we are the ones who decide that?

Btw, i live in arabic country with conservative culture. Marriage and having children is a must for everybody and people don't even dare to discuss such topics. What do you think guys?

Not having children is actually becoming a trend here in the west, specially in the Americas, I have at least met one couple that is married and they do not have any plans to have children in the long term, because of the responsibilities associated with it and the economical costs which come attached to it, they may change their opinion in the future, however so far they have been married for two years and they have still kept their relationship childless.
Interestingly enough, I have dated at least one woman who explicitly told me she did not want to marry and have children, due to the economical situation of the country, it was something we both agreed on. So depending on the context of where your life, it could be harder or easier to find a woman who shares those perspectives you have about marriage and procreating.

[Fiatless]

Those of you who see the war in Gaza and how people are dying from hunger, lack of medicine, and the lack of hygiene facilities, including toilets, bathrooms, and even drinking water, do you think Gaza is a suitable place to give birth and raise children? I believe it is a crime for someone to give birth under such conditions. Unfortunately, births have not stopped, and people are having sex under the bombardment, giving birth to babies who die a few days later under the rubble. I am not a resident of Gaza, but it is a good example to put the concept of procreation under the microscope of reason and morality, even for once.

I know see why you don't want children. Your concern is not really money but security. If I were from Gaza, I would never give birth in such circumstances. How can a pregnant woman survive in such a hellish condition in Gaza? Bringlng a child into hunger and danger is not good. But I don't also criticize those who are still having babies, maybe they have means of surviving. Many of them see the population as weapons against occupation. But if I am in Gaza, my major goal will be how to be safe and not have children.

[Kavelj22]

Those of you who see the war in Gaza and how people are dying from hunger, lack of medicine, and the lack of hygiene facilities, including toilets, bathrooms, and even drinking water, do you think Gaza is a suitable place to give birth and raise children? I believe it is a crime for someone to give birth under such conditions. Unfortunately, births have not stopped, and people are having sex under the bombardment, giving birth to babies who die a few days later under the rubble. I am not a resident of Gaza, but it is a good example to put the concept of procreation under the microscope of reason and morality, even for once.

I know see why you don't want children. Your concern is not really money but security. If I were from Gaza, I would never give birth in such circumstances. How can a pregnant woman survive in such a hellish condition in Gaza? Bringlng a child into hunger and danger is not good. But I don't also criticize those who are still having babies, maybe they have means of surviving. Many of them see the population as weapons against occupation. But if I am in Gaza, my major goal will be how to be safe and not have children.

According to statistics issued by the Ministry of Health in the Gaza Strip, there are 120 births every day. If we consider those born in the first nine months of the war to be the natural outcome of marital relationships, then all those born after that date are the result of an ill-considered decision. It can be classified as a criminal act to give birth to a baby in conditions such as those in Gaza, even after the ceasefire was declared. Children today are dying of hunger due to a lack of supplies, and those who survive suffer from constant shelling by tanks and aircraft. Anyone who believes that population density is a means of resistance is delusional and wants to portray themselves as heroes, but in reality, this is the product of a stupid culture that encourages unrestrained procreation.

[Joeboy]

Women have machinery built into them to 'make' children. She will never be happy in the long run with the idea of not having children. She can't help it. The best you can do is find a widow who has adult children already, and then simply put up with them when they visit. Otherwise, forget the marriage thing.

Hahahaha 🤣😂 This your suggestion of him getting a widow with adult children really cracked me up. But the truth is that there a still few women out there who doesn't really see having of kids as the ultimate purpose in marriage. Let me give an instance, there some woman who are barren and they are still married, and some of this woman are not even a fan of adoption. Now if they see children as the ultimate, they wouldn't even consider getting married in the first place.
Funny enough I actually remember a scene in the popular movie series titled ''Blacklist'' where the star cast/ FBI Agent by name Elizabeth Keen told her husband by name Tom Keen that she doesn't want to have kids, this her decision didn't make her any less of a woman it only showed that communication and understanding in marriage is very important.

[BADecker]

Women have machinery built into them to 'make' children. She will never be happy in the long run with the idea of not having children. She can't help it. The best you can do is find a widow who has adult children already, and then simply put up with them when they visit. Otherwise, forget the marriage thing.

Hahahaha 🤣😂 This your suggestion of him getting a widow with adult children really cracked me up. But the truth is that there a still few women out there who doesn't really see having of kids as the ultimate purpose in marriage. Let me give an instance, there some woman who are barren and they are still married, and some of this woman are not even a fan of adoption. Now if they see children as the ultimate, they wouldn't even consider getting married in the first place.
Funny enough I actually remember a scene in the popular movie series titled ''Blacklist'' where the star cast/ FBI Agent by name Elizabeth Keen told her husband by name Tom Keen that she doesn't want to have kids, this her decision didn't make her any less of a woman it only showed that communication and understanding in marriage is very important.

The point isn't more or less of a woman. The point is the inner comfort and desires of the woman.

Almost all women, if offered great security, will choose children. It's only when they think that their 'nest' isn't secure that they want to avoid children. Why? Because they don't want their children to be harmed.

Almost anybody can adapt themselves to circumstances. But not having children will always be a basic, deep-down, piece of unfulfillment for women. And this unfulfillment will always come out into the open at least a little, with any man she might be married to.

[Fiatless]

Women have machinery built into them to 'make' children. She will never be happy in the long run with the idea of not having children. She can't help it. The best you can do is find a widow who has adult children already, and then simply put up with them when they visit. Otherwise, forget the marriage thing.

Hahahaha 🤣😂 This your suggestion of him getting a widow with adult children really cracked me up. But the truth is that there a still few women out there who doesn't really see having of kids as the ultimate purpose in marriage. Let me give an instance, there some woman who are barren and they are still married, and some of this woman are not even a fan of adoption. Now if they see children as the ultimate, they wouldn't even consider getting married in the first place.
Funny enough I actually remember a scene in the popular movie series titled ''Blacklist'' where the star cast/ FBI Agent by name Elizabeth Keen told her husband by name Tom Keen that she doesn't want to have kids, this her decision didn't make her any less of a woman it only showed that communication and understanding in marriage is very important.

I see it as a very good option. If you think you don't want children and you see a widow who has children that you love, it will be a very good option. Another alternative could be marrying a woman who has infertility issues. I know women who are aware of their medical conditions and will gladly marry men who don't want children. @BADecker's suggestions are essential because finding a partner who doesn't want offspring can be difficult in some societies.

[Kavelj22]

Women have machinery built into them to 'make' children. She will never be happy in the long run with the idea of not having children. She can't help it. The best you can do is find a widow who has adult children already, and then simply put up with them when they visit. Otherwise, forget the marriage thing.

Hahahaha 🤣😂 This your suggestion of him getting a widow with adult children really cracked me up. But the truth is that there a still few women out there who doesn't really see having of kids as the ultimate purpose in marriage. Let me give an instance, there some woman who are barren and they are still married, and some of this woman are not even a fan of adoption. Now if they see children as the ultimate, they wouldn't even consider getting married in the first place.
Funny enough I actually remember a scene in the popular movie series titled ''Blacklist'' where the star cast/ FBI Agent by name Elizabeth Keen told her husband by name Tom Keen that she doesn't want to have kids, this her decision didn't make her any less of a woman it only showed that communication and understanding in marriage is very important.

I see it as a very good option. If you think you don't want children and you see a widow who has children that you love, it will be a very good option. Another alternative could be marrying a woman who has infertility issues. I know women who are aware of their medical conditions and will gladly marry men who don't want children. @BADecker's suggestions are essential because finding a partner who doesn't want offspring can be difficult in some societies.

Yes, I agree in principle that marrying a widow or divorcee with children, or a single mother with children, is a wiser decision than bringing more children to this damn world. I consider these children victims, and most of the children born every day are victims. Therefore, it is better to save existing victims rather than having more of them.

Personally, I have no objections to adopting and caring for a child if my financial and psychological circumstances allow me to do so. When I say I am an anti-natalist, this does not mean I am incapable of raising a child.

[GiftedMAN]

Women have machinery built into them to 'make' children. She will never be happy in the long run with the idea of not having children. She can't help it. The best you can do is find a widow who has adult children already, and then simply put up with them when they visit. Otherwise, forget the marriage thing.

Hahahaha 🤣😂 This your suggestion of him getting a widow with adult children really cracked me up. But the truth is that there a still few women out there who doesn't really see having of kids as the ultimate purpose in marriage. Let me give an instance, there some woman who are barren and they are still married, and some of this woman are not even a fan of adoption. Now if they see children as the ultimate, they wouldn't even consider getting married in the first place.
Funny enough I actually remember a scene in the popular movie series titled ''Blacklist'' where the star cast/ FBI Agent by name Elizabeth Keen told her husband by name Tom Keen that she doesn't want to have kids, this her decision didn't make her any less of a woman it only showed that communication and understanding in marriage is very important.

I see it as a very good option. If you think you don't want children and you see a widow who has children that you love, it will be a very good option. Another alternative could be marrying a woman who has infertility issues. I know women who are aware of their medical conditions and will gladly marry men who don't want children. @BADecker's suggestions are essential because finding a partner who doesn't want offspring can be difficult in some societies.

Yes, I agree in principle that marrying a widow or divorcee with children, or a single mother with children, is a wiser decision than bringing more children to this damn world. I consider these children victims, and most of the children born every day are victims. Therefore, it is better to save existing victims rather than having more of them.

If you can marry and take good care of a divorcee or a widow with kids without complaining that's fine since you already admitted that you are an Anti natalist but don't you think if you are not going to need your own children to take good care of you when you get older? Taking good care of kids that are not yours is not a bad thing don't get me wrong but since you are financially capable to take good care of other kids don't you think you could get married, have a kid and make life beautiful for him or her while you take care of the already existing kids that are suffering according to your believe, think about it.

[BtcAnalyst1]

Sorry to say about this post you made.. though I don't often post in this section but I was lucky to have your topic pop-up on the bot and I have to follow it up.

Usually, what I senses here is that you aren't ready to accept responsibility. As woman or Man, the ability for them to accept all responsibilities is to settle down by getting married. Yes, I know that not everyone that must get married but at times there are reasons why they don't get married and this could be lack of finance, accomodations and so many circumstances within a man. But for a woman, it is that easier for them to get married because most at times the Men takes up the responsibilities, while there are some home which their responsibility are being shared equally.

Procreation isn't that Major reason of getting married but at least having someone whom you could confide on, share thoughts and feelings and ideas, but guess what?
What is the benefit of getting married without procreation then who takes over you or after you when you might have joined your ancestors? We see many people adopting a child or babies due to their inability to bear children,.or let say what if your parents didn't give birth to you what could have been of your existence today?

I like your expression, it is obvious that many people work against nature probably, knowingly or unknownly. It is a pitiable situation because i find it difficult believe that a man or a woman that was given birth by parents will decide to marry but not to bear children.
I think that the major reason for man and a woman to marry is for procreation and every other things is secondary. In my opinion, marriage is not complete if there are no children, and if no children, i think may be better to share our felings, issues with friends, it is just the same as not having a wife, there are no difference.

[Bitcoin.com97]

I don't like having children. It's easy and doesn't require much philosophizing and interpretation. For this reason, most of my relationships with women have failed to develop into a formal relationship. For me, marriage is all about finding a true life partner to share our ups and downs, and that's enough. Just as I don't like to be tied down to someone who is too attached to her family, I also don't like having children who might one day tire me out or whose rights I might have neglected. Don't call me a "pessimist," because I know circumstances change, and what's best for me today isn't guaranteed tomorrow, no matter how many guarantees there are. These are personal beliefs and preferences, and unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there are women who share my perspective, and most, if not all, consider marriage as a means of procreation.

Are there women who share this perspective? Where or how can I find one? (I know this is bitcointalk not tinder hhh). Why should the concept of commitment extend to procreation as if it were a natural outcome when we are the ones who decide that?

Btw, i live in arabic country with conservative culture. Marriage and having children is a must for everybody and people don't even dare to discuss such topics. What do you think guys?

Your prospective about marriage and parenthood are cleared and valid, looking for a life partner to share experience and support each other without possibly  having children, there are women  who share same prospective and beliefs, there are single ladies out there who don’t want children because of pains associated with childbirth,  bearing children is a whole lot of work for some ladies, including stress that comes with parenting , All they want is just get a man to live happily with till they leave the planet ,they don’t let societal pressure get to them about bearing children neither having there offspring to continue their lineage.

To me you can find them on social media group that specialize on relationships and marriage or lifestyle and choices , where individual can share similar belief and prospective, also make use of dating platforms so you can state your choice and preferences and values that can connect you to same people with have same belief and decisions, lastly when you meet your potential partner make sure you communicate your choice and goal , try to be honest with them in other to meet people with same decisions and value .

[Salahmu]

In my view, getting married and don't like to have children or having children and don't want to get married all depends on individuals

Marriage is a unique thing and it's the Creators concept as it's stated in:

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Some persons prefers to only have kids without marrying anybody and this is not only the idea of the men but is also how some women do, perhaps they feel having only children without a husband or a wife will give them all the opportunity and chance to explore life and in as much as it might be contrary to what we define marriage but we can not force someone to do otherwise, so actually everybody's decisions and choices about this might not be wrong about it because at last is about happiness, so long as is what you want, for me i will like to have even more than two kids. however even if Bible stated about the importance of partner but it didn't make it a compulsory thing for everybody because you have the right to decide for yourself weather you will go by it or not.

[Kavelj22]

Women have machinery built into them to 'make' children. She will never be happy in the long run with the idea of not having children. She can't help it. The best you can do is find a widow who has adult children already, and then simply put up with them when they visit. Otherwise, forget the marriage thing.

Hahahaha 🤣😂 This your suggestion of him getting a widow with adult children really cracked me up. But the truth is that there a still few women out there who doesn't really see having of kids as the ultimate purpose in marriage. Let me give an instance, there some woman who are barren and they are still married, and some of this woman are not even a fan of adoption. Now if they see children as the ultimate, they wouldn't even consider getting married in the first place.
Funny enough I actually remember a scene in the popular movie series titled ''Blacklist'' where the star cast/ FBI Agent by name Elizabeth Keen told her husband by name Tom Keen that she doesn't want to have kids, this her decision didn't make her any less of a woman it only showed that communication and understanding in marriage is very important.

I see it as a very good option. If you think you don't want children and you see a widow who has children that you love, it will be a very good option. Another alternative could be marrying a woman who has infertility issues. I know women who are aware of their medical conditions and will gladly marry men who don't want children. @BADecker's suggestions are essential because finding a partner who doesn't want offspring can be difficult in some societies.

Yes, I agree in principle that marrying a widow or divorcee with children, or a single mother with children, is a wiser decision than bringing more children to this damn world. I consider these children victims, and most of the children born every day are victims. Therefore, it is better to save existing victims rather than having more of them.

If you can marry and take good care of a divorcee or a widow with kids without complaining that's fine since you already admitted that you are an Anti natalist but don't you think if you are not going to need your own children to take good care of you when you get older? Taking good care of kids that are not yours is not a bad thing don't get me wrong but since you are financially capable to take good care of other kids don't you think you could get married, have a kid and make life beautiful for him or her while you take care of the already existing kids that are suffering according to your believe, think about it.

This is one of the worst beliefs anyone can adopt: having children as part of a retirement plan.
Who told you that the child you will raise will later agree to help you when you get elder? Who gave you the right to determine the will of a free person and thus make him a slave to your will? People who think this way are extremely selfish and use the idea of ​​procreation as a plan to serve his own interests. Humans are the only ones who think this way because nature depends on reproduction to continue the species, not to help helpless adults. Imagine any animal that reproduces by instinct, but its goal is to continue the species and spread its genes, and it is a normal pattern among all creatures.

[BADecker]

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If you can marry and take good care of a divorcee or a widow with kids without complaining that's fine since you already admitted that you are an Anti natalist but don't you think if you are not going to need your own children to take good care of you when you get older? Taking good care of kids that are not yours is not a bad thing don't get me wrong but since you are financially capable to take good care of other kids don't you think you could get married, have a kid and make life beautiful for him or her while you take care of the already existing kids that are suffering according to your believe, think about it.

This is one of the worst beliefs anyone can adopt: having children as part of a retirement plan.
Who told you that the child you will raise will later agree to help you when you get elder? Who gave you the right to determine the will of a free person and thus make him a slave to your will? People who think this way are extremely selfish and use the idea of ​​procreation as a plan to serve his own interests. Humans are the only ones who think this way because nature depends on reproduction to continue the species, not to help helpless adults. Imagine any animal that reproduces by instinct, but its goal is to continue the species and spread its genes, and it is a normal pattern among all creatures.

There are no guarantees. It simply depends on the love and loyalty that you show your children while they are growing up. That's why it is a good idea to have and lovingly support a bunch of them... so that if one turns against you, the rest won't.

The idea of continuing the species with regard to human reproduction, is so far off base that it is laughable. God controls the replenishing of everything. Our children are His children at the same time.