Has Bitcoin Become All Right-Wing?

[BitHodlers]

Has Bitcoin Become All Right-Wing?

Orange man bad.  If Trump likes it, the left will hiss at it like a vampire seeing sunlight.

Spot on.

Let's not be decieved by this politicians because of what they say.

So Democrats don't actually hate bitcoin?  They're just saying that for political reasons?  In reality they actually like it?

They do, and anyone who claims otherwise is a delusional nut job or a paid shill. They are obsessed with control and draining more money from the taxpayer through pretend legitimate organizations and institutions.

As we have seen, no country can topple this market as it is like a free spirited person. China, one of the world's top economies banned btc and yet, it didn't collapse this currency. It continues to grow in the mainstream market.  So I would say, there's no single entity that can manipulate this market nor the politicians who are trying to get a nod from the people. Because this is like an independent entity.

Few people understand that the more time passes, the more Bitcoin becomes resilient.

[Mastercon]

“What transforms this world is — knowledge. Do you see what I mean? Nothing else can change anything in this world. Knowledge alone is capable of transforming the world, while at the same time leaving it exactly as it is. When you look at the world with knowledge, you realize that things are unchangeable and at the same time are constantly being transformed.”

This quote by Mishima i was just reading encompasses the nature of bitcoin being the digital/physical bridge (it solves the oracle problem)
but it also shows my opinion about politics, i dont see things changing anytime soon, even if we all use bitcoin 100%. Some very stubborn people refuse to acknowledge Bitcoins censorship resistant properties or why we configure our nodes, instead clinging to the fantasy they are in a war against spammers and this incurs them some cost. its' frankly embarrassing to have so many people from our community so miseducated, blinded by their ideologies, to the basic functioning of Bitcoin in this server.  I apologize an all your behalves when I discuss this issue elsewhere. You are all a source of shame for me on this issue.

[mindrust]

I don’t think bitcoin has become right wing. It is just people in right happen to like bitcoin more than the commie lefties. And you already see the reason. Lefties are mostly about socialism, communism, capital controls, high taxes, anti-freedom.

And it is exactly why the majority elected Trump. It is because the majority don’t want any of these crap. They want low taxes, capitalism and most importantly, freedom.

It does not come as a surprise bitcoiners are mostly right wingers and right wingers are the majority. It is simply because the left suck.

[maydna]

Bitcoin is neutral. Nothing can control Bitcoin although they can play with the price by up and down of the price. But once the time come, they will not be able to do the same because the situation will change.

The government just want to take benefit from Bitcoin user so they regulate it with strictly rules so the government can monitor and watch their activities related to Bitcoin. They use Bitcoin for their interest so we don't have to believe them while we can use Bitcoin for our own benefit.

[nativebtc]

Bitcoin’s not inherently right-wing, it’s still the same decentralized, censorship-resistant tech born from libertarian roots, appealing to anyone who distrusts banks or govs. Trump and Poilievre hyping it up with “freedom” talk just makes the right-wing narrative louder, especially with crypto’s $2T market and wild volatility drawing in populists. But left-leaning folks still vibe with BTC for financial autonomy or sticking it to corporate banks. It’s less about the code and more about who’s shouting loudest. I think Bitcoin stays neutral, depends on who shapes the story.

[suzanne5223]

a way for individuals to hold and transfer value without government oversight or interference.

Nah. It doesn't have to be the government because Bitcoin was created as a means to hold assets and transfer payments without the trust of a third party (which could be anyone that's not involved in the transaction process).

Its roots lie in libertarian ideals, appealing to anyone skeptical of state power — left, right, or neither. But today, a strange new political narrative has taken shape: has Bitcoin become the darling of the right wing?

It depends on your personal understanding and usage of Bitcoin.
We have some people who use Bitcoin as an asset, and we have some who use it as currency. If you see Bitcoin as your right wing, so be it, but no one can ignore the fact that it's a true liberating digital asset.

Prominent right-wing figures like Donald Trump and Canada’s Pierre Poilievre have loudly embraced Bitcoin, often tying it to populist ideas of “freedom” from government control and anti-central bank rhetoric. Trump has even begun promoting his own crypto-themed NFTs and memecoins. In the U.S. and abroad, Bitcoin is increasingly framed as a political tool by conservative movements — especially those leaning toward the radical right — to push back against what they claim are overreaches by the state and globalist institutions.

People intend to create a FUD or misinformation about something they don't understand its potential or wish it varnish but waxing stronger.
You said it yourself that Bitcoin was unfairly blamed as a political tool for conservative.
Out of curiosity. Do you use AI to generate this content?

People like Trump sees the potential and the chance presented by crypto at all and decided to use it for their own selfish gain and I don't see any reason why Bitcoin should be blame or tarnish for that because this is not the first time we will see influenced/powerful people using something to enrich themselves.

[hd49728]

People intend to create a FUD or misinformation about something they don't understand its potential or wish it varnish but waxing stronger.
You said it yourself that Bitcoin was unfairly blamed as a political tool for conservative.

On the other hand, other people are free to learn about Bitcoin so that they are knowledgeable enough for debunking most of Bitcoin fuds. They can start to learn about Bitcoin and nearly during a same learning period, they can read enjoyable resources from https://endthefud.org/

There are many articles, documents, resources for reading and debunking Bitcoin fuds, it's just whether people are ready to absorb those things and aware that those resources can give them some valuable insights. If they feel that learning is important, especially with good educational resources, they will spend time little by little for learning gradually with time.

Rome wasn't built in one night so learning isn't. It takes them considerable time for learning and mastering basics of Bitcoin technically and fud-debunking related ones.

[Yoona_As]

Bitcoin has created an opportunity for users to work independently since it is not controlled by any government or bank. Many people knew about Bitcoin for a long time and did not pay attention to it, and now that the price of Bitcoin has increased so much, many have failed, so they will criticize it, but it is better for us to avoid them. Bitcoin will increase in popularity in the future and its price will increase relatively.

[Justbillywitt]

The louder voices may simply be coming from the right. Crypto is still in its “Wild West” era — volatile, unregulated, and chaotic — which naturally draws in political extremes and opportunists. But the ideological battle for Bitcoin is far from over. Whether it tilts permanently toward one side may depend less on the code and more on who shows up to shape the narrative.

I don't agree with this statement. Bitcoin was in the "wild west" era 10 or maybe 15 years ago. Nowadays Bitcoin/crypto is way more accepted and regulated than it used to be. I don't think that there's an "ideological battle" for Bitcoin.
Bitcoin(and crypto in general) isn't supposed to be right-wing or left-wing. BTC is just a store of value and a medium of exchange. Currencies and financial assets aren't supposed to be right-wing or left-wing. Right-wing politicians are embracing crypto, while left-wing politicians seem to be supporting CBDCs(which can't be considered true crypto). Crypto is being included into the political discourse mostly because some politicians want to gain popularity among the crypto community.

To me I don't think it's just because these politicians are seeking for more popularity that's why they are bringing bitcoin into political discuss. I see it more like these politicians are now realising that they can't neglect bitcoin any further. After many years of painting wrong narratives about bitcoin, they have come to realise that those things were all fabricated lies, and they have to find a way to include bitcoin in the system of governance. Instead of continuing to fight bitcoin that is not obstructing them from performing their duties, so they are making efforts to step into it and find a way to regulate it.

[el kaka22]

Just because Elon and Trump likes it, it doesn't mean its alt-right. I am not right by any means necessary and I love bitcoin. In fact, when it was first starting, it was anti-establishment, which is as further away from alt right as you can get. Alt right LOVES meddling with peoples lives, look at how they overturned abortion for example, they were interested in taking full control of BODY of human, that should tell you how they love being central power.

Bitcoin is AGAINST centralized power, hence why it was created decentralized. Just because they now like it, doesn't mean it became alt-right, it just means they are interested in something they shouldn't be interested in, but nothing about bitcoin has changed since the start.

[Theupdude]

Yeah Bitcoin's political branding is getting crazy. It started as this libertarian equal opportunity rebel tech, but now it's becoming co-opted by right wing grifters executing NFT frauds. The tech itself is still neutral though you've got anarchists using it to oppose governments and campaigners using it to dodge sanctions. The strongest voices just happen to be conservative lawmakers right now because they're pushing heavily into the anti establishment aspect. But remember when occupy wall street people were all over crypto too? The pendulum might swing back once more left leaning persons figure out how to exploit it for their causes.

[Muba20]

Bitcoin is a symbol of freedom. Those who will try to centralize this decentralized currency are basically the enemies of Bitcoin. Anyone who can support it will not change the goal of Bitcoin. So some will support it and some will not accept, which is their personal matter. If anyone tries to take control of it in any case, it will be completely foolish. Letting Bitcoin run smoothly its course is also good for everyone. There is no need to show any biasness towards this. If someone loves it and wants to use its benefits, that's entirely up to them. Political power will change but Bitcoin will continue at its own pace.

[coolcoinz]

I'll answer with a question.

If a leftist politician promotes something, does it make it leftist? If the right embraces the idea, does it make the idea itself right?

Of course not!

For instance, I'm a libertarian myself, but I know a few people who are politically centered and own bitcoin. Bitcoin is apolitical. It tends to be more popular among libertarians because it's not an authoritarian idea in its core, but remember that you can be a conservative, or a progressive libertarian, just like you can be a left or right wing authoritarian. That's why Hitler is often taken for a right-wing authoritarian, when in fact he was a socialist, just an authoritarian socialist which nowadays is a rare thing.

[suzanne5223]

People intend to create a FUD or misinformation about something they don't understand its potential or wish it varnish but waxing stronger.
You said it yourself that Bitcoin was unfairly blamed as a political tool for conservative.

[snip]

There are many articles, documents, resources for reading and debunking Bitcoin fuds, it's just whether people are ready to absorb those things and aware that those resources can give them some valuable insights. If they feel that learning is important, especially with good educational resources, they will spend time little by little for learning gradually with time.

Rome wasn't built in one night so learning isn't. It takes them considerable time for learning and mastering basics of Bitcoin technically and fud-debunking related ones.

There are a lot more genuine educational resources now than years ago when I joined the crypto space.
Nevertheless, the availability of the information to educate newbies is one thing but their preparation and willingness to have knowledge about Bitcoin is another thing eternally because 85% of newbies are not ready to learn about the fundamental aspect of Bitcoin which is why we see a lot of people that sees influencer recommendation of shitcoin (which is for marketing purposes) as an investment decision.

The most hurtful part of it is that they blame their naive mistakes on Bitcoin.

[X-ray]

I've seen both right wing and left wing bitcoin users.

Bitcoin doesn't align with certain poltical idea but truth is the right wing is pushing for bitcoin adoption more than the left wing. So you can get the idea why it seems that way.

Bitcoin is, by no doubt, for everyone who seek freedom though.

[Ucy]

The Bitcoin principles/ideals are neither right or left wing.. They are basically principles both sides and others would hardly find issues in because they follow the basic or common-sense rules that should be the foundation of every society. They are fairly balanced ideals for everyone unlike the one sided or selfish ideals that do not take the fundamental rights of others into account.

Bitcoin is basically a framework for building a fair society, and a deviation can take society back to ideological conflicts.
It's where one side can run to for cover when the other side is becoming oppressive. And it can serve all sides.

Ofcourse, there will be attempt by the oppressive side to hijack it or change the narrative, but the oppressed sides and the principled ones will always resist

[retreat]

Bitcoin is still Bitcoin, it is not right wing or left wing. Just because some right wing figures are pro Bitcoin, it does not make Bitcoin move according to what they want. Bitcoin is still decentralized and people are still free to access and own it regardless of their views. But it's just that if we look at the market today, it is filled with quite a lot of right wing figures, and they see Bitcoin as a solution to individual freedom and what Bitcoin offers is something that needs to be empowered. But Bitcoin is not part of that view. Bitcoin is owned by the community and everyone has the right to use Bitcoin according to what they want.

[Josefjix]

Bitcoin is still Bitcoin, it is not right wing or left wing. Just because some right wing figures are pro Bitcoin, it does not make Bitcoin move according to what they want. Bitcoin is still decentralized and people are still free to access and own it regardless of their views. But it's just that if we look at the market today, it is filled with quite a lot of right wing figures, and they see Bitcoin as a solution to individual freedom and what Bitcoin offers is something that needs to be empowered. But Bitcoin is not part of that view. Bitcoin is owned by the community and everyone has the right to use Bitcoin according to what they want.

You said it all, it's just that the price movement of Bitcoin is now seeming to be influenced by higher investors which are companies and government getting it for economic reserve but that doesn't mean it's affecting the decentralized nature of Bitcoin, everyone still have their own part of the cake of the digital assets and can take it or leave it they want. The decentralized assets lets it more unique over governmental control making everyone getting involve in it at your own gauge.

[joniboini]

If a leftist politician promotes something, does it make it leftist? If the right embraces the idea, does it make the idea itself right?
Of course not!

I'm not sure why, but people like to label things that someone uses when they are just tools whose usage depends on who uses them. I mean, sure, you can view Bitcoin leans more into privacy and so on, but I don't think anyone who uses Bitcoin necessarily values that things, like how some people openly tell social media that they have some sats on exchange A and leave it there.

I don't know if you can call it a logical fallacy or what, but saying that an idea or an inanimate object leans toward one ideology or another when they have no minds is a bit odd to me.

[coyhasmon]

I think it is great to be a right wing .
Just imagine what bitcoin did with this world.
Why should I let anyone know ehere my money is going
they thought about that in that time when very less people had understanding of finances worldwide.

There is no reason for anyone to know. All the stupid excuses that they make to justify these laws are fake. It does not limit crime, it does not prevent crime, it does not do anything except provide massive surveillance on the population. You should be able to do whatever you want with your money, including illegal activities if you decide to do them. It is your choice, and you will be the one who will face the consequences if you make that choice.

If a leftist politician promotes something, does it make it leftist? If the right embraces the idea, does it make the idea itself right?
Of course not!

I'm not sure why, but people like to label things that someone uses when they are just tools whose usage depends on who uses them. I mean, sure, you can view Bitcoin leans more into privacy and so on, but I don't think anyone who uses Bitcoin necessarily values that things, like how some people openly tell social media that they have some sats on exchange A and leave it there.

It can be seen as a progression of the detrimental impact that social media has had on the public space these days. Everything is being labeled based on who is saying it and who is doing the reporting.

I don't know if you can call it a logical fallacy or what, but saying that an idea or an inanimate object leans toward one ideology or another when they have no minds is a bit odd to me.

It is a fallacy, probably something like category mistake. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category_mistake

A category mistake (or category error, categorical mistake, or mistake of category) is a semantic or ontological error in which things belonging to a particular category are presented as if they belong to a different category,[1] or, alternatively, a property is ascribed to a thing that could not possibly have that property.

Quote from wikipedia. An idea can't be right wing or left wing. It may be created by someone on that political spectrum, it may be used often by people from that political spectrum but it still just remains an idea.