Ever witnessed such situation from gamblers before?

[milewilda]

Based on true life stories about some gamblers, I want to use two case scenario to tender my message. A gamblers gained a huge amount that was enough to change his life and that of his family for the better but due to lack of unsatisfying urge of quick money, the person wants to use the money to make quick profit in a short term, and was advised to try gambling, he did with all the money, so he lost it and could not bear the hurtful feelings so he ended his life with his hands.

Another case, someone was asked to keep some money for a good purpose, the money does not belong to him, he was only to save it for some time but got a bad advice from friends to make good use of the money and get a  quick cash out before the need for the money arise. He took the advice and wagered with the money and lost it, he could not bear the hurtful feelings too but on the process of killing himself he was discovered and rescued.

In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

Situation #1.
Once that stress and anxiety isnt something that you can be able to handle then someone do ends up on killing himself or this could implicate up some potential problems into someones life. On the moment that you cant handle it anymore then this is where you will be starting to think on having some suicide on which it is just that sad. I do agree into those words that in every problem there's a solution and that's something that we do need up to find out and just that easily give up even if things do already becomes messy. It is just that money and life is much more worth than that.

Situation #2.
Spending up money that isnt yours and ending up on losing it all and cant give it back, then this is basically a huge problem. On every action that you are making then there's always a reaction that do happen.
If it turned out that it will be that you've been doing some negative decisions or choices then expect that it will be giving out that negative outcomes or results on which means that you would be needing to face it up
because its impossible that you havent been able to think up well on w hat are those consequences in the first place. You are the ones who held responsible into the actions that you do made and thats why its
that important that you should be that knowing into the actions that you would be making if you dont like to experience up such potential problems ahead.

[JunaidAzizi]

It's a very hurtful story, and gamblers have to take it as advice. It mostly happens in real gambling, and people don't post it. In my view, suicide is not a solution to get rid of the situation. Remember, the pain is temporary, and there are many ways to cope with it, but the loss is permanent, once a person dies, they will not come back. If they are alive, they will feel low and be in pain for some time, but surely they will stand on their feet and overcome the situation.

As for the second person who gives wrong advice, they should be sent to a mental hospital to gain mental stability and then be forced to work to repay that money. In your life, if you ever receive life hanging money, go secretly to your room, keep it safe, and contact a financial advisor. Don't listen to such friends, they will just ruin you.

[coolcoinz]

I've heard of similar situations, the #2 is very common among wealth managers. I know a real case where someone was  supposed to invest other people's money and went $1m in debt by playing with leverage. He even shorted bitcoin in 2023 and got screwed. Also, the most famous case is SBF who also gambled with money of his clients.

Should anyone end his life over this? Of course not. There's a number of sayings like the one that there's always light at the end of a tunnel. You never know how close you are to the exit. The night is always darkest right before the dawn and so on. People end their lives because they feel like they're in the worst possible situation but this is usually the real bottom. They can't fall deeper! The only way from there is up. If you can only survive that time of deepest depression it's going to be fine. You can always make money as long as you live.

[mirakal]

It’s never a kind of justification by killing your own self, that should always be out of the picture. And by the information of everyone, wrong decisions and negative outcomes are just normal for any human being, they’re just there to teach us lessons and never to do it again. But taking your own life so you can escape from your faults, that’s another story to tell. If you are too weak like that, you shouldn’t be gambling in the first place.

[Lanatsa]

I've heard of similar situations, the #2 is very common among wealth managers. I know a real case where someone was  supposed to invest other people's money and went $1m in debt by playing with leverage. He even shorted bitcoin in 2023 and got screwed. Also, the most famous case is SBF who also gambled with money of his clients.

Should anyone end his life over this? Of course not. There's a number of sayings like the one that there's always light at the end of a tunnel. You never know how close you are to the exit. The night is always darkest right before the dawn and so on. People end their lives because they feel like they're in the worst possible situation but this is usually the real bottom. They can't fall deeper! The only way from there is up. If you can only survive that time of deepest depression it's going to be fine. You can always make money as long as you live.

For those people who are on such condition then they would be that telling you that its just that easy to say since you arent on the situation on which this is true because I have been able to experience in my life that im already that on the bottom and it seems that there's no other way out. There would be coming into a point that you would be thinking up this way on which its unavoidable to tell it frankly. The thing on here is that you should be still be having in control when it comes into your mindset because at the time that you give up on everything psychologically and emotionally then this is where you would be that starting out to have that breakdown on which it will be leading into that possible suicide.  Its true that in every problem there comes a solution, it might not be simple or easy but its not impossible. Just that dont simply give up and thrive to find up those solutions as long as we live. Life is precious and killing or taking up suicide isnt worth at all.

[Churchillvv]

This situations are some of the key points parents who have experienced concludes that gambling generally is very bad and in my society it has a bad stereotype for bringing this kind of bad effects on humans.

However the punishment of the guy who was rescued would be a life time stereotype which could lead to trauma and other psychological side effects, he/she might have a real time punishment but the stereotype kills faster, I don't know what the punishment could be but I believe it's the desire of the offended or the due punishment attached to attempt of suicide by the court of justice system.

While for the guy who died, he lost! even with the lost he incurred he still had the bigger lost because nothing is impossible so you could become rich and everything goes away but once your gone, you're gone forever.

[livingfree]

A gamblers gained a huge amount that was enough to change his life and that of his family for the better but due to lack of unsatisfying urge of quick money, the person wants to use the money to make quick profit in a short term, and was advised to try gambling, he did with all the money, so he lost it and could not bear the hurtful feelings so he ended his life with his hands.

Another case, someone was asked to keep some money for a good purpose, the money does not belong to him, he was only to save it for some time but got a bad advice from friends to make good use of the money and get a  quick cash out before the need for the money arise. He took the advice and wagered with the money and lost it, he could not bear the hurtful feelings too but on the process of killing himself he was discovered and rescued.

In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

On the case 1, he should just retire for good if that's an amount that's enough to change their lives. I'll never have any second thought doing that.

While on the second case, committing suicide has never been an option even if we do crazy things. Mistake after mistake won't resolve anything.

And apart from that, we need to choose our friends too. Getting friends from the hood is fine but if it's about our decisions, we need to be wiser than anyone else.

[SuperBitMan]

Greediness is the reason why people put them self's in situations like this how on earth will you have a huge some of money in your hands and you are using all to gamble, are they not scared of losing all of it, have they not seen and experience loss in gambling, some times this stories are hard to believe but since I have witnessed it I can't say is not true anymore, someone in my home town was working in a company and they dropped him and paid him a huge amount of money that could have been used to start up a very big business but he used all the money to gamble and he lost all the money till date he is still into depression and can't move on from that situation, people has been making this mistakes but people won't learn, when it comes to gamy use only your Discretionary income to gamble and don't gamble with the intention of becoming very wealthy through it, gamble for fun.

That other person that survived after being rescued will face his punishment if he is in a country that has a law that punish anyone who tries to take his life, if no such laws he will be free to go but his family members should be watching him closely to avoid him trying such thing again.

[Kelward]

It’s never a kind of justification by killing your own self, that should always be out of the picture. And by the information of everyone, wrong decisions and negative outcomes are just normal for any human being, they’re just there to teach us lessons and never to do it again. But taking your own life so you can escape from your faults, that’s another story to tell. If you are too weak like that, you shouldn’t be gambling in the first place.

It shows that gambling is not for everybody, if you don't have the risk tolerance to gamble it's better to leave it so that you won't harm yourself or contemplate suicide if huge loses happen. If you choose to gamble it's better to do it responsibly and it starts with using small amounts for it because loses happens more than wins and you need to prepare for it. I don't think that I'll get tired of the phrase "gamble with amount that you can afford to loose" I learnt this phrase on this board and I practice it. With this gambling strategy I doubt that I can ever contemplate harming myself because of loses, the amounts that I use are quite insignificant to me.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

It’s never a kind of justification by killing your own self, that should always be out of the picture. And by the information of everyone, wrong decisions and negative outcomes are just normal for any human being, they’re just there to teach us lessons and never to do it again. But taking your own life so you can escape from your faults, that’s another story to tell. If you are too weak like that, you shouldn’t be gambling in the first place.

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Greed pushed them to it, not that they really have the mind to bear the losses that will come after but they are blinded by the big profit they expected to get, not thinking about the negative side of it, they just get on with the game. It's when they hit the loss that they begin to regret and want to end their life because they can not accept the loss and shame they will face from people. From the stories we see on this board, this kind of things has been reported here several time.

[Muba20]

It’s never a kind of justification by killing your own self, that should always be out of the picture. And by the information of everyone, wrong decisions and negative outcomes are just normal for any human being, they’re just there to teach us lessons and never to do it again. But taking your own life so you can escape from your faults, that’s another story to tell. If you are too weak like that, you shouldn’t be gambling in the first place.

It shows that gambling is not for everybody, if you don't have the risk tolerance to gamble it's better to leave it so that you won't harm yourself or contemplate suicide if huge loses happen. If you choose to gamble it's better to do it responsibly and it starts with using small amounts for it because loses happens more than wins and you need to prepare for it. I don't think that I'll get tired of the phrase "gamble with amount that you can afford to loose" I learnt this phrase on this board and I practice it. With this gambling strategy I doubt that I can ever contemplate harming myself because of loses, the amounts that I use are quite insignificant to me.

Although everyone has the right to gamble, not everyone is worthy for gambling. It is not always certain that a gambler will suffer a loss, but when a gambler wins a big win, it is more difficult for him to control the situation. Most gamblers react when they lose money after winning in gambling and try to recover the loss and at some point lose all the money they have. There are some gamblers who can accept defeat. If they lose, they may suffer temporarily but they can recover later, but for those who cannot accept defeat, gambling creates a big problem. In gambling, if a gambler loses, the responsibility for it falls entirely on him. If he cannot bear it and adopts a policy like suicide, then his foolishness will be revealed.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

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In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

Talking about such topic is somehow tabu in many cultures, mine included; but if you ask me, there is no justification for committing suicide, except perhaps if doing it you save your family or beloved ones (someone wants to punish you by hurting them and you kill yourself, like in films).

Talking about suicide and culture, a man committed suicide just yesterday in the same locality where I stay because he couldn't cope with being constantly harassed by those he owed debts. He has tried 3 times already and was stopped by his relatives, yesterday he succeeded, congratulations to him.

The most painful part is that he was not given a befitting burial since suicide is a taboo in this community and foreigners were called to dig around where he hung and cut the rope so he falls into the grave and then cover it up, Suicide is a very bad thing. I believe no one should ever think of killing himself. It really annoyed me to see how his corpse was treated like a rejected log of wood because he killed himself.

[AbuBhakar]

Based on true life stories about some gamblers, I want to use two case scenario to tender my message. A gamblers gained a huge amount that was enough to change his life and that of his family for the better but due to lack of unsatisfying urge of quick money, the person wants to use the money to make quick profit in a short term, and was advised to try gambling, he did with all the money, so he lost it and could not bear the hurtful feelings so he ended his life with his hands.

Another case, someone was asked to keep some money for a good purpose, the money does not belong to him, he was only to save it for some time but got a bad advice from friends to make good use of the money and get a  quick cash out before the need for the money arise. He took the advice and wagered with the money and lost it, he could not bear the hurtful feelings too but on the process of killing himself he was discovered and rescued.

In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

Both scenario tells to be not greedy with money, simple as that. Greed destorys everything. It can ruin your work, family, relationship to your friend, and most importantly your mental health. Person 1 says, if you're already successful don't be greedy to the point that you're willing to risk what you worked hard for a long time. Person 2 says to be contented on what you have. If someone asks you to keep some money, keep it or decline the request if there is a chance you will get tempted to use it.

Punishing the 2nd person would just add to his suicide attempts. He has gambling addiction so it would be better if is put into rehab than being punished.

To the topic of taking your own life, it is never justifiable to end your life no matter how hard is your situation. Only a coward person would end his life since he has no guts to face the consequences. Every problem has a solution

[Fredomago]

Nothing is justifiable for committing suicide. In fact, those people are cowards who can't face the consequences of their own stupidity. Gambling stupidity to be precise. 
We've heard enough of these kind of stories, but these kind of people are hopeless and there's no way we could have prevented it as they most likely not going to give you signs or hints what they are about to do with the money they possessed. Those people who gave advices are the devil who whispers to weak people's ears. They are not stupid, but they are wise. They will use that person to gain a portion of their wealth when luck strikes after gambling.

That 2nd person will probably face legal consequences for spending the money that doesn't belong to him. That's quite similar to stealing. If he goes to prison, that's where he's gonna commit suicide successfully this time lol.

On the time that you have given up on facing up your problem then the nearest solution that you would be having in mind is to commit suicide because this will be that solve out everything or you wont be that minding anymore when you are dead on which this kind of decision is indeed absurd. Come to think that in every problem on which there's a solution on which means that you could just that basically having that kind of courage on facing up the problems that you do have in life so that you would be able to find yourself that being enlightened and not just that easily give up. There are just that those  times or moments that you do become desperate but there's no way that you can be able to find but dont easily give up and just that pursue on trying to look up for another options on which you can be able to take.

I agree to that a those people who losses theirhope thinks that suicide is the only solutions, instead of accepting failures they again wanted to make a short-cut, ending their lives means ending the problem that they've made, though like what you've said, acceptance played a very important role, learn from your mistake there's always a possible and doable solution if you open your mind and think for the betterment of your life..

[Leahized]

In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

You are right saying suicide is not a solution to all problems. The first person lost all the meaning of his life and committed suicide. It was a mistake to take this action, though his mindset was not completely right in this situation. He could have accepted the rate and started again, but gambling with all the money at once was really dangerous. And on the other hand, another person has lost everything by betting his friends but he should have protected his deposit properly. He too was in the wrong way but luckily he survived. In this situation, his family should be on the side and the money who had all the money should be returned very quickly. It should be learned from it and does not make such a mistake in life.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Based on true life stories about some gamblers, I want to use two case scenario to tender my message. A gamblers gained a huge amount that was enough to change his life and that of his family for the better but due to lack of unsatisfying urge of quick money, the person wants to use the money to make quick profit in a short term, and was advised to try gambling, he did with all the money, so he lost it and could not bear the hurtful feelings so he ended his life with his hands.

Another case, someone was asked to keep some money for a good purpose, the money does not belong to him, he was only to save it for some time but got a bad advice from friends to make good use of the money and get a  quick cash out before the need for the money arise. He took the advice and wagered with the money and lost it, he could not bear the hurtful feelings too but on the process of killing himself he was discovered and rescued.

In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

As hard as it may seem, there are no problem in this world that justifies suicide except you are under bondage or slavery and can't continue to live under such torment, aside this, there are no life issues that justifies committing suicide, most especially when the issue is one that one brought upon him or herself.

And concerning the second person who tried committing suicide but was rescued, there is no other punishment other than for him to pay back the money, he should pay back the money at a given date or he will be locked up until his family members clear up the debt before he will be released.

There is a place here in my country where if a person commits suicide, his or her body won't be buried, but will be thrown into the evil forest for the vultures to feed on the carcass, That is how evil they believe suicide is.

[nara1892]

On the time that you have given up on facing up your problem then the nearest solution that you would be having in mind is to commit suicide because this will be that solve out everything or you wont be that minding anymore when you are dead on which this kind of decision is indeed absurd. Come to think that in every problem on which there's a solution on which means that you could just that basically having that kind of courage on facing up the problems that you do have in life so that you would be able to find yourself that being enlightened and not just that easily give up. There are just that those  times or moments that you do become desperate but there's no way that you can be able to find but dont easily give up and just that pursue on trying to look up for another options on which you can be able to take.

I agree to that a those people who losses theirhope thinks that suicide is the only solutions, instead of accepting failures they again wanted to make a short-cut, ending their lives means ending the problem that they've made, though like what you've said, acceptance played a very important role, learn from your mistake there's always a possible and doable solution if you open your mind and think for the betterment of your life..

It is certain that it is a very painful situation for them so that they can think of making a crazy decision by ending their lives, on the other hand, everyone has a different mentality and psychology so that is what makes each gambler have different self-acceptance and those who ultimately make stupid decisions like ending their lives may be because they have poor self-acceptance regarding the risk.
Actually there are many factors that make them make such decisions, I assume that it seems that the money lost is their last money or money that they will use for something very important in their life so that when they experience defeat they feel very stressed.
In the end, of course this is a valuable lesson for us, the point is to first recognize what activities we will engage in so that we can measure the limits of our abilities.

[Hatchy]

In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

I think such cases are more often. A lot of times we here if situations where someone gambles with a huge amount of funds which he's not supposed to. Probably a borrowed fund, or that meant to take care of some personal important issues and he ends up losing it all to gambling. But taking ones life is not going to solve the problem. Yes you might be free from the depression but is that going to leave a good legacy behind for you? You literally ruin your name as people would describe you and your family members as the person who took his life because he lost to gambling.

[lionheart78]

In this two cases, what would you advice?

As always a simple advice but too hard to follow, just gamble the money we can afford to lose.  Avoid being greedy and get out of the get rich quick scheme idea.

That pretty much will save these two stated in your story from ending in such dire situation.  Btw, in addition, never heed an advice that is too good to be true and be mindful of the people we are listening to.

Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

No, it is not justifiable to commit suicide, about the 2nd person, i think it will only be a civil case since he misused the money that the person entrusted him.  If the person work hard enough and promise to pay the money, I think there will be no need to file a case.

[GiftedMAN]

In this two cases, what would you advice? i
Is it really justifiable for someone to commit suicide for this kind of situation and what should be the punishment of the second person that was rescued?

The first case happened as a result of greed and lack of contentment, if the gambler has left when he won the huge amount he wouldn't have had the thoughts to take his own life.

My advise for him is to have sense so that in his next life he would always remember that life is more precious than money.

The second guy could be misled by the wrong company he keeps so he just need to learn to gamble with his own money and not the one that was giving to him to keep.

There is no justifiable reason for anyone to think about committing suicide, people should learn how to try again after a sad event. The second guy needs to be given a good orientation if possible he should be taking to a rehab center to examine if everything is ok with him.