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Author Topic: Balancing Financial security and Bitcoin Accumulation  (Read 24837 times)
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February 21, 2026, 07:41:54 AM
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In a large number of traditional investments there are needs to build up capital prior to being able to invest in them, and surely bitcoin allows very small amounts of purchases - depending on the source.  There might be some exchanges that have $5 to $10 minimums, and there also might be private persons who buy/sell bitcoin directly, and they might have minimums that are several hundred dollars.

At the same time, poor people might need to consider fees, to the extent that fees might exist, so there could be some circumstances that they are better off to wait until they have built up a certain amount of cash before using it to buy bitcoin, whether that is $5, $10, $50 or some other amount, yet those are not products of bitcoin, but instead likely rules that third parties may well have created in order to use their service.  Sometimes shopping around and learning more about fees can help to identify possible sources that have lower transaction fees.

Another thing is that the fees of the blockchain tend to be different from fees of third parties, and even there can be instances in which using something like the bitcoin lightning network could be a more economical way to buy and/or sell bitcoin.

Surely exchanging goods and services for bitcoin, could also be a good way to either obtain bitcoin or to spend bitcoin.
We can buy Bitcoin in the same way that fees can be reduced when buying Bitcoin. We would really benefit if Bitcoin could be purchased or spent in exchange for a product or service, but hopefully one day there will be a system where Bitcoin will be used in every case.


That is not true.  Sure the discretionary funds came from somewhere, but they do not need to continue to flow or to come from some source that is continuing in order to be available to a person at any given time.

Let's say that a person just finds out about bitcoin, and so then they make an assessment of how much money they currently have, and various assets that they might already own.

Such person does not have to have a current job or future income that is known in order to assess if he has enough money to buy some bitcoin, whether that is $100, or $10 or some other amount.

Let's say, for example, that a person finds out about bitcoin, and they make a general assessment of their financial status and they determine that they have right around $10k that is available.. and maybe half of that (around $5k) in cash.
Their monthly expenses are around $1,500, so between their cash and the other assets that they have, they consider that they could live at their current expense level for nearly 7 months.

Does it matter from where they got the money (assets)?  Does it matter if they have a job within the next month or two?  Sure some folks might consider it to be reckless to invest in bitcoin if future income is not known, but this hypothetical person could easily decide to invest $100 per week into bitcoin for the next 6 weeks, and then maybe to look for a job starting in 6 weeks.  Even if someone has a job in which they were making $2,500 per month for the past 10 years, they are not necessarily guaranteed to have that income in the next month.  Sure, they might be able to presume that it is likely that they are going to continue to be able to earn the same income for the next 6 months, but it is not necessarily guaranteed that they can, merely based on their own personal history or whatever other factors that they might be considering that gives them assurance of their future income.
We need to invest based on our income and expenses. If we consider the money we have, we can invest something every week from there and in addition, we can find a job to increase our income and when our income increases, we can also increase our investment. I think I have five thousand or ten thousand dollars, I can easily spend a year with these, yes, of course I can spend them, but if I use some of the money from there to invest Bitcoin and then find a job and increase my income, then this will be the wisest thing to do. I want to continue investing if I have money rather than refraining from investing. Many of us may think that we will invest later, your money can be spent in various ways.  So if I have $500 today, I can invest $100 from that and spend the remaining $400 and prepare to earn more later.


No you don't.

You might need income to sustain your investment or to continue to live, yet income is not the ONLY thing that is available for a person to assess.. which they can assess their current assets and their current cash on hand that may or may not related to their past income, and surely it does not necessarily relate to whether or not they are going to have a future income.
Investment definitely requires income, but that income may not be consistent. You may be investing consistently from your previous income now. The income you are earning today may not be the same in the future. So a person's wealth cannot be considered by looking at his current income.


That is not true.  I am not going to repeat what I already said above.  You should be able to differentiate between income and assets/currency on hand.
Of course, being able to differentiate between income and wealth is also a sign of intelligence. Income seems to be the source from which money comes continuously and wealth is what you already have or had. We can invest income and wealth from both places.


You sound confused.

There is also a difference between discretionary income and discretionary funds .. .the first one relates to income and the next one relates to what a person currently has available to him whether or not he had a past income or a future income.
Yes, I also see the difference between discretionary income and prudent funds. By discretionary income, I mean if my monthly income is $500, if I spend $400 from that, what is left is my discretionary income. And prudent funds are a certain amount of money that I can use for investment or for any other purpose.
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February 21, 2026, 11:08:01 AM
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Don't be retarded.  There is no reason to fuck around with other investments and dilute your bitcoin investment.  If the guy has $1k per month discretionary income, how are you going to suggest he divides it?  He does not have much to work with and you want to further dilute it to invest in some stupid shit for the mere sake of diversifying.  You sound retarded.  Maybe you can explain how you expect the guy from the example to divide up his $1k per month discretionary income?
For me I feel that diversification shouldn't be something we should care about, especially when someone is at the early or mid stage of their accumulation. Yes diversifying is also good but it should be done when we feel that we have over accumulated Bitcoin maybe after 5 -6 years of weekly or monthly accumulation. Then yes , the option of diversifying can look logical. Or when they have a very huge capital. If someone has limited like 1k per month as his discretionary income, they should just focus on accumulating Bitcoin alone instead of spreading it around on other stuffs. So they will be able to accumulate enough Bitcoin with that $1k per month.
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February 21, 2026, 11:27:42 PM
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If you don't have a discretionary income take some time to start investing in Bitcoin. Wait or try to create a regular source of income. Discretionary income will flow from there. Without a consistent discretionary income flow there is a possibility of losing money on your investment. It is better to be a little flexible and try to make positive changes to your financial situation than to create losses or risks. To reduce the risk of investing in Bitcoin attach a long-term investment strategy through discretionary income.
I agree with you, if we don't have discretionary income it is important that we get a job because without securing one it would be difficult to have discretionary income to invest continuously. An investor need to have a job or a source of income very important because it would support his ongoing bitcoin accumulation and how consistent he accumulate would enable him reach over accumulation. My point is evennif we have discretionary income, we still need a source of income to figure out more discretionary income and support our bitcoin accumulation. . .
The prerequisite for Bitcoin investment is a source of income through which you can continue to invest continuously. The poor are discouraged from investing in Bitcoin and are advised to wait until they have a steady stream of discretionary income. By ignoring the fundamentals of long-term investing, you will be able to cover very little distance. It will often create risky situations because your main ingredient is missing. Spend time improving your financial situation and try to improve your luck through skill.

It may be difficult for a poor investor to reach the level of excess savings but not impossible if he can generate a steady stream of discretionary income. As well as increasing the flow of cash funds or the amount of funds to do aggressive DCA in the price fall season.
What that is actually needed to get started with your bitcoin investment is your discretionary income and not your source of income, i know of people who has a source of income but doesn't have a discretionary income to get started with, investing in doesn't mean we should have first have a steady source of income before we can go ahead with our bitcoin investment but we can start buying and be thinking on now to increase what gives us money so we can also be investing with a better discretionary income.
A poor person can still get to his accumulation target but it's only going to take him more years because he can actually be accumulating bitcoin gradually using the DCA strategy either accumulating regularly every weeks or months and continue to hodl.
Yes, you are right that we need discretionary income to start Bitcoin, having a source of income is not mandatory..I support this, but if I look at the matter in a more structured way, I can probably explain it more clearly..Having a source of income and having investable money are not the same thing. Many of us have a regular income, but due to debts, family responsibilities and daily expenses, we don't really have anything like savings. Then there are also many of us who have irregular income but can keep a small surplus by controlling our expenses. So the real issue is our cash flow management.

One can start investing in bitcoin without any solid source of income . The money we use to invest are refers to as discretionary income, amount left after handling your expenses. In some cases maybe a student who still stay under his guidance roof to have any source of income , but do have allowances from his guidance to sort out some bill , so he can literally choose to buy bitcoin without any solid some amount from the money after taken care of necessary expenses, the left overs which are the discretionary income will be there for him to decide what to do with the money , so those into bitcoin investment can use it to buy some portion of Bitcoin.

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Today at 07:14:03 AM
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One can start investing in bitcoin without any solid source of income . The money we use to invest are refers to as discretionary income, amount left after handling your expenses. In some cases maybe a student who still stay under his guidance roof to have any source of income , but do have allowances from his guidance to sort out some bill , so he can literally choose to buy bitcoin without any solid some amount from the money after taken care of necessary expenses, the left overs which are the discretionary income will be there for him to decide what to do with the money , so those into bitcoin investment can use it to buy some portion of Bitcoin.
It is a brilliant idea that an investor who does not have discretionary income can start accumulating Bitcoin with the available funds. But I am confused about whether they will be able to do it regularly.
But I am also thinking that students who are learning about Bitcoin at a beginner level and want to become Bitcoin holders can save money from session fees and start accumulating Bitcoin. Or they can accumulate Bitcoin from the money they get from their parents.
This will create a convenient situation because a student is accumulating Bitcoin regularly at a beginner level and when he is able to earn, he can start accumulating more Bitcoin and reach the overaccumulation level before taking on family responsibilities. This will be attractive for an investor who is holding Bitcoin and learning about the market before he is able to earn.

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