Imminent war between Israel and Iran

[covfefe_]

Here are some developments that proves a war between Israel and Iran is imminent.
1. The nuclear talks between US and Iran has failed. Trump says he's out of it.
2. US stays silence, vetoes against Israel's genocide in Palestine.
3. US secretly supplies missiles and arms to Israel.
4. Iran claims it would target US base in Middle East if Iran is attacked (by Israel).
5. US evacuates non-essential people and forces from Middle East bases.

It's clear that US is trying to use Israel as a tool to bomb the nuclear infrastructure of Iran to dust. Even though US would claim they are not involved, Iran clearly knows its all planned and executed by US. If things get bad, US could actively get involved.

On doing the risky operation, Israel gains support of US for its genocide in Palestine as well weakens its regional enemy Iran.

US and Israel has mute support from Saudi as well. Iran with nuclear weapons would be a problem to Saudi and the middle east.

On global scale, the war may again increase the price of oil and gas as most of it originates or ships through middle east.

[pooya87]

Israel is a tiny insignificant terrorist organization that occupies a portion of Palestine. On October 7 2003, Israel was defeated and it ended then and there. Ever since then it is practically as if it is brean dead living on life support. That life support being NATO.
The only thing The Zionists are capable of doing is to murder unarmed civilians and slaughter defenseless children. They can't even carry out a successful strike on a super power at Iran's level let alone go to "war" with the country of 90 million.
If you check out google maps and compare sizes you can see that in 30 minutes Iran can cripple Israel and by the end of the day there will be no Israel left on the maps.

They can't even do it with the help of NATO. On 2024-10-25 NATO actually tested this with the help of the entire US airforce to carry out a SEAD operation against Iran in 3 phases, each phase having multiple waves (SEAD op which would take months is the only way they can even enter Iranian airspace to then hope for reaching civilian infrastructure including nuclear energy facilities to hit them). US brought electronic warfare units to that operation that are so classified you won't even hear about for the next 20-30 years.
It failed miserably on wave one of phase one when they couldn't even overwhelm Iranian air-defense radars and instead their own radars were overwhelmed and some of it got "fried". They lost 3 of their military aircrafts 200+ km outside Iranian borders (2x F-16 and 1 F-35) without even being able to reach the borders!

And on the other hand we will have Iran's retaliation. This is a small preview of what Iran's retaliatory strike will look like: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5511403.0
Except it won't be with 1 wave using ~200 missiles 90% of which hit with the objective being deterrence and doing minimal damage.
Instead it will be with 10000 missiles per day 99% of which will hit with the objective being to completely neutralize the threat.

I assure you NATO knows this better than I can explain.

Why are the Western mouthpieces saying this ridiculous thing?
It's very simple. The delusional idiots in Washington think they can scare Iran or fool them into disarming themselves so that they can do to Iran what they did to Iraq, Libya, and a dozen other places after they fooled them into disarming themselves.
And when I say "disarm" I don't mean nukes since Iran doesn't have any and has no plans to build any either. I'm talking about the deadly air-defense systems (the same AD I mentioned above that is capable of shooting down the entire NATO air-force with ease in case of any aggression from NATO), its offensive capabilities to neutralize threats like the ASBMs that can sink the entire NATO navy in a short time, and so on.

It is worth mentioning that in Iran people are laughing at these desperate attempts and they have the opposite effect since it show how NATO has run out of options and they have failed in all fronts and now are trying propaganda tactics.

5. US evacuates non-essential people and forces from Middle East bases.

Evidence of how fake these claims are is exactly this. If you check the Arabic media, they're already saying how fake it is (no personal were evacuated from Iraq, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, ...).

[DeathAngel]

Really hope this doesn’t happen & if there is a conflict I really do hope the US keeps out of it. We do not need to be encouraging any more warmongering. At this point I don’t care if Iran has nuclear weapons, mass murder of innocent civilians is a worse outcome than a country having weapons they don’t use.

[franky1]

because iran has been funding the houthi/hamas extremist genocidal rebels to attack isreal/US (pooya knows this and admires irans funding his favourite extremists)

isreal want to go to the source. to force iran to stop funding the hamas idiots(aswell as iran not have nukes to genocide isrealis).. so that without the funding, hamas low level troops retire(troops stop getting paid) and so the hamas agenda to wipe out isreal stops..(most low level troops only joined hamas due to promises of income and food, but they dont have vengeance of isreal, they just want peace and conflicts to stop.. (its the rebel leaders/upper ranks with the genocidal "death to isreal, death to america" motto. mostly )

much like how houthi's stopped their attacks on isreali/US resources once iran stopped funding the houthi's, because most low level troops in the houthi group were only in the houthi group for the money

..
pooya doesnt want peace, he doesnt want attacks to stop. he wants iran to keep funding hamas, and doesnt want the innocent palestinians to sign a peace agreement(abreham accords) with isreal
pooya doesnt want iran to sign the abreham accords with isreal..

pooya instead hopes if isreal try to force iran to stop funding hamas, that iran regime instead release a dirty bomb (unrefined nuke) on isreal.
pooya admires the extremists leaders with genocidal intent and deathly mottos.. he likes the idea of iran using a dirty bomb(unrefined nuke)

[Hispo]

Because situations like these ones, it is why I kind of miss the administration of Obama and the nuclear deal he managed to reach with Iran back in the day. The middle east had cooled down and Israel and the war against Hamas was not in the news all months during years.
To me it seems a big mistake Trump and the United States not to reach a deal with Iran for the sake of peace, but it seems literally Trump is following the orders or Netanyahu and pushes Iran into going toma hot war against Israel. Though, realistically we all know Israel would not fight that war, it would be fought by the military of the United States.

[pooya87]

Israel is a tiny insignificant terrorist organization that occupies a portion of Palestine

As I said, Israel is a terrorist organization and is very proficient at carrying out terrorist attacks.

Last night, with the full cooperation of United States regime they carried out multiple terrorist attacks inside Iran against civilians in residential areas, possibly by activating some terrorist cells inside Iranian soil. You can see some of the explosions in some apartment buildings below.
This was a distraction for some other terrorist operations.

Many women and children are among the martyrs. Here is footage of one of children who was martyred in the terrorist attacks carried out by the US regime and its proxies:
 




It is worth mentioning that the Israeli terrorists have already taken responsibility for these attack while US regime is trying to pretend was not part of it.
Here is the US regime's tankers that flew from their base in the gas station known as Qatar to participate in this terrorist attack:


We also have the NATO and British air-forces that participated in these terrorist attacks:


Oil is up 15% already.

P.S. Remember, NATO and its Zionist terrorist proxies started this and crossed the red lines including but not limited to attacking civilians...

[covfefe_]

It is worth mentioning that in Iran people are laughing at these desperate attempts and they have the opposite effect since it show how NATO has run out of options and they have failed in all fronts and now are trying propaganda tactics.

Evidence of how fake these claims are is exactly this. If you check the Arabic media, they're already saying how fake it is (no personal were evacuated from Iraq, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, ...).

Israel actually attacked. Not only did they neutralized the air defense, but they were successful in killing one of the highest army personnel.

Not sure about Israel claims of striking strategic targets but it did sent a message to Iran and Iranian people are not laughing now.

Western media are trying to portray that US is not involved but that's a white lie everyone can see.

I'm in no way supporting a terrorist state like Israel but Iranian government is no different.

I'm in favor of not letting Iran be able to enrich Uranium. People in middle east are fighting crazy already, with nukes, they'll just obliterate.

[pooya87]

I'm in favor of not letting Iran be able to enrich Uranium.

Iran is and will continue to have a peaceful nuclear program because nuclear science has limitless benefits that Iran needs. From obvious ones like nuclear power to help Iran close the gap between its electricity production and the consumption that is growing rapidly to various usages in other fields like
- water desalination that can help Iran cover part of its water shortage used for drinking and agriculture,
- fields like agriculture itself for which I think is used for eliminating pestilence and improve production,
- fields like medicine that Iran is currently one of the most advanced producers of radiopharmaceuticals that are used to diagnose and even cure various diseases such as cancer,
- and a lot more.

Iran as a member of Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) has the right to enrichment at any percentage (eg. >90%).

Now it is worth saying that also as a member of NPT, Iran has the right to activate article 10 which gives Iran the right to also build nukes since the country is being threatened by regimes armed to the teeth with weapons of mass murder including nukes.
Whether Iran is going to go down that road remains to be seen. If that decision is made, nobody is capable of "not letting" Iran to build them. For the time being nukes are ideologically ignored (are considered haram) but that can change if the threats against Iran are manifested in a way that pushes the country in that direction.

I personally say that Iran must build its first 10 nukes by the end of today because of these terrorist attacks carried out by NATO.

Update: I should point out that Iran's retaliation has already begun. Sources say over 600 loitering munitions and 150 cruise missiles were launched at terrorist positions. This is possibly the first wave to exhaust NATO air defense and deal some damage while also exhaust NATO air force that are currently in defensive formation inside Iraqi and Syrian airspace illegally trying to defend the terrorists.
I hope after these aircrafts land for rearming, any airbase that houses them is flattened... but we have to wait and see what decision Iran makes...

[franky1]

Iran as a member of Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) has the right to enrichment at any percentage (eg. >90%).

Now it is worth saying that also as a member of NPT, Iran has the right to activate article 10 which gives Iran the right to also build nukes since the country is being threatened by regimes armed to the teeth with weapons of mass murder including nukes.

NPT article 10 is not a right they activate to allow them to make nukes...

there is no article 10 right to make nukes within the NPT
article 10 is simply to no longer be in the NPT

its a exit of NPT.

then when not part of NPT they are no longer forced/conditioned to not make nukes... because they removed themselves from the NPT

this is not the same as activating a right to make nukes as part of a NPT deal.

[pooya87]

It is worth mentioning that according to Zionist sources the head of their terrorist organization, Netanyahu has already fled the occupied land out of fear of Iran's retaliatory strikes:



This is while Zionist occupiers of Palestine have flooded supermarkets trying to get anything they can get their hands on knowing very well what's on the way...

~ while also exhaust NATO air force that are currently in defensive formation inside Iraqi and Syrian airspace illegally trying to defend the terrorists.

Syrian sources report that US airforce with the help of air-forces of Turkey, Jordan, Saudi and England are desperately trying to intercept these projectiles in clear defense of Israeli terrorist.
As I said they are exhausting their missiles next wave(s) are coming(?)

[Zlantann]

Really hope this doesn’t happen & if there is a conflict I really do hope the US keeps out of it. We do not need to be encouraging any more warmongering. At this point I don’t care if Iran has nuclear weapons, mass murder of innocent civilians is a worse outcome than a country having weapons they don’t use.

The US is solidly behind these attacks. It looks like Donald Trump is bent on causing a war that will destabilise Iran and the Middle East. I said that the US is involved because there is no sincerity in the negotiations with Iran. If the US is unaware of this attack, why were they evacuating their citizens from the Middle East? I just hope this attack will not escalate and cause a full-blown war. Israel and the US might be underestimating the strength of Iran, which might lead to regrets in the course of the war.

I don't know why nations have failed to learn from the Ukrainian war experience. Joe Biden instigated and supported the war, but unfortunately, the new government wanted to abandon it, which would have led to the collapse of the Ukrainian military. Now Ukraine had to be forced to sign deals giving out their resources to the US.

[SuperBitMan]

Really hope this doesn’t happen & if there is a conflict I really do hope the US keeps out of it. We do not need to be encouraging any more warmongering. At this point I don’t care if Iran has nuclear weapons, mass murder of innocent civilians is a worse outcome than a country having weapons they don’t use.

The US is solidly behind these attacks. It looks like Donald Trump is bent on causing a war that will destabilise Iran and the Middle East. I said that the US is involved because there is no sincerity in the negotiations with Iran. If the US is unaware of this attack, why were they evacuating their citizens from the Middle East? I just hope this attack will not escalate and cause a full-blown war. Israel and the US might be underestimating the strength of Iran, which might lead to regrets in the course of the war.

I don't know why nations have failed to learn from the Ukrainian war experience. Joe Biden instigated and supported the war, but unfortunately, the new government wanted to abandon it, which would have led to the collapse of the Ukrainian military. Now Ukraine had to be forced to sign deals giving out their resources to the US.

The US may be behind the attack no one is still sure of it, but right now all this war needs to stop I don't know why some leaders of some countries love war so much why can't they stop and accept peace what is all this with war, the annoying part of all these is that the citizens are the once that are suffering and dying, I really don't know if the UN is still functioning because this are the kind of things they are suppose to resolve, but since the UN are made up of different countries or nations there's no peace in between this nation's and that is why the UN are not active or can't stop things like this, I see no use or function of the UN if they can't resolve conflict that wants to lead to war, I'm very sad because all this attack are taking the life of innocent people, some people are now without parent and some are without children because they have been killed in one attack or the other.
No matter the problem or conflict it shouldn't lead to war because people will die, joy, peace and freedom will be  taken away from people.

Let peace lead.

[Cossyblack]

Really hope this doesn’t happen & if there is a conflict I really do hope the US keeps out of it. We do not need to be encouraging any more warmongering. At this point I don’t care if Iran has nuclear weapons, mass murder of innocent civilians is a worse outcome than a country having weapons they don’t use.

It looks like Donald Trump is bent on causing a war that will destabilise Iran and the Middle East. Israel and the US might be underestimating the strength of Iran, which might lead to regrets in the course of the war.

Destabilizing Iran looks impossible to me . The US and Israel have been struggling to keep up with the fights against the houthis in Yemen, western journalist wouldn't  want to publish the high numbers of US military personnel s and warships in the red seas getting killed and bombed by the houthis. It makes no sense how donald Trump led Government that couldn't defeat the houthis think they can defeat Iran in a full scale war😆.  Iran has the most powerful military forces in the middle East with highly destructive missiles capable of hitting any targets of choice and  I believe the Israeli and the US knows how Powerful IRAN is and wouldn't dare to underestimate the strengths of Iran or provoke her to war.  It's obvious that the Israeli army are weak and vulnerable to attacks, simply because the US are supporting and protecting them doesn't mean IRAN cannot attack to inflict heavy damages on Israeli soil . At this point,Israeli shouldn't allow the US to push them to destruction like what they did to Ukraine. I am not certain if anything would be left to remember Israel if Iran decided to start a war on Israeli soil.

[DeathAngel]

I feared this would happen when the rumours started about tensions rising. I really wish this type of thing didn’t happen, there are no winners. I see that Iran has now pulled out of a meeting with the US on Sunday. This does not look good at all, there is a high chance of a huge war now, involving other countries.

[Accardo]

The mideeleast should be stopped from being a war zone they need development and peace, Iran has always stayed this way and it's bad to their reputation and the reason the US don't want them to possess nuclear power. Trump openly said it at the Saudi Arabia business conference that if Iran doesn't make a deal they'll suffer more Loss and he's tried to let them accept his offers but the nation refused now he made it clear on truth social that Iran would see bigger distructions.

[tech30338]

The war will just result to lots of deaths in both side, why would they not stop, attacking each other, or just stop attacking Israel let them be, the only reason they fight back is because they are being attack by terrorist, funded by other country, we might be right or wrong in what we see, but they need to stop the fighting unless, the other side wants it badly to happen, the war will not do any good in both countries.

[pooya87]

I gotta say I am in awe of Iran's sophisticated layered air defense. I've said this many times before that Iran has by far the most advanced systems but even I didn't expect it to be at this scale with these capabilities and success rate against the entire NATO capabilities!

I've been analyzing every video that comes out ever since morning and the percentage of interception is phenomenal. I dare say at least 90% of the projectiles were intercepted successfully and only a handful have gotten through since morning. I just can't believe the number of radars, batteries, defense missiles, etc. that Iran has and is using so freely

P.S. The damage to apartment buildings and other stuff that have come out so far are by micro-drones launched by terrorist cells from within Iranian soil. It is worth mentioning many of these terrorists have already been arrested...
P.P.S. I also heard that Trump is running his mouth. Maybe tonight we have to say goodbye to 50000 US regime troops. What do you think

BTW this seems to be the first footage of the US made F-35 "stealth" bomber being shot down by an Iranian fighter jet. At least 4 kills are recorded so far. The Israeli terrorist sources have already approved 2.


This also seems to be the footage of the terrorist pilot that has ejected out and is going to be possibly arrested. I hope they drag this terrorist through the streets of Tehran for everyone to see the fate that awaits terrorists that try to harm Iranians...


Of course I must say:
وَمَا رَمَیْتَ إِذْ رَمَیْتَ وَلَٰکِنَّ اللَّهَ رَمَىٰ

[paxmao]

I gotta say I am in awe of Iran's sophisticated layered air defense. I've said this many times before that Iran has by far the most advanced systems but even I didn't expect it to be at this scale with these capabilities and success rate against the entire NATO capabilities!

I've been analyzing every video that comes out ever since morning and the percentage of interception is phenomenal. I dare say at least 90% of the projectiles were intercepted successfully and only a handful have gotten through since morning. I just can't believe the number of radars, batteries, defense missiles, etc. that Iran has and is using so freely

P.S. The damage to apartment buildings and other stuff that have come out so far are by micro-drones launched by terrorist cells from within Iranian soil. It is worth mentioning many of these terrorists have already been arrested...
P.P.S. I also heard that Trump is running his mouth. Maybe tonight we have to say goodbye to 50000 US regime troops. What do you think

BTW this seems to be the first footage of the US made F-35 "stealth" bomber being shot down by an Iranian fighter jet.


This also seems to be the footage of the terrorist that has ejected out and is going to be possibly arrested. I hope they drag this terrorist through the streets of Tehran for everyone to see the fate that awaits terrorists that want to attack Iran...

From the outside, it seems anything but some short of achivement for Iran. The sites that the Israelies wanted destroyed are destroyed, the people they wanted dead are dead and in all likelyhood the programme that they intended to stop has been stopped.

While none of this is funny, I cannot avoid chuckling about your claims about the effectiveness of Iranian defence - it is like one of those swiss cheeses with holes all over. The Israelis hit whatever they want, whenever they want.

The fact is that the countries in the region have been fighting one way or another for decades and peace does not seem to be an objective for any of them. I have never hear Iran saying "we want peace with US and Israel", nor the opposite, but I have seen them claiming for war over and over.

While Iran has a theocracy that needs an external enemy to justify his existance and while Israel keeps claiming lands they do now own as their property, there will be nothing other than blood and terror.

[pooya87]

It's Friday (weekend) night and I'm kinda tired so I'll try writing a sophisticated analysis from a military perspective covering the real damage that was done and damage that was not done (and they were hoping to inflict) explaining why this was a complete and miserable failure for the US regime.

For the time being watch the terrorists be punished as Iranian missiles land one after the other in occupied Yafa which terrorists call Tel-Aviv (24 hits counted on video) proving once again that NATO has absolutely no defense against Iranian missiles.


One interesting move by Iran is launching some of these missiles from the same exact military bases that the Western mouthpieces were claiming were destroyed by Israeli terrorists since morning (99% of those bases hadn't even been touched)

From Haifa to Asdud, from South to North is under barrage of missiles now. This is the communication tower in the heart of heavily defended Yafa that got hit and was demolished with pinpoint precision


This is the Zionist air defense that got blown to bits with a single missile with pinpoint precision from 1500-2000 km away (sadly can't post video).


Over 200 missiles were launched and all hit the Israeli terrorists so far. This was only the first wave...

[franky1]

I gotta say I am in awe of Iran's sophisticated layered air defense. I've said this many times before that Iran has by far the most advanced systems but even I didn't expect it to be at this scale with these capabilities and success rate against the entire NATO capabilities!

I've been analyzing every video that comes out ever since morning and the percentage of interception is phenomenal. I dare say at least 90% of the projectiles were intercepted successfully and only a handful have gotten through since morning. I just can't believe the number of radars, batteries, defense missiles, etc. that Iran has and is using so freely

P.S. The damage to apartment buildings and other stuff that have come out so far are by micro-drones launched by terrorist cells from within Iranian soil. It is worth mentioning many of these terrorists have already been arrested...
P.P.S. I also heard that Trump is running his mouth. Maybe tonight we have to say goodbye to 50000 US regime troops. What do you think

Of course I must say:
وَمَا رَمَیْتَ إِذْ رَمَیْتَ وَلَٰکِنَّ اللَّهَ رَمَىٰ

you are delusional in soo many ways... iran leaders, nuclear specialists and many strategic sites are all gone. isreal set targets and those targets got hit.
accept the loss

you might want to sweep things under the rug, but even many years ago isreal found the weapons hiding underneath the rug factory. so your tactics wont work metaphorically or literally

and now you want to pretend your god cast the first stone.. no you idiot, it was iran that funded the oct 7th attacks on isreal and then funded the hamas, houthi rebels that continued attacks on isreal.. so now isreal is attacking the source.
iran threw first.. not some imaginary alien giant in the clouds you think exist

you have really revealed your hand in not wanting peace and not caring for innocent people. all you care for is the rebels and terrorists that have been shouting the motto "death to isreal, death to america" and have been very vocal about wanting nukes

wake up to reality and stop supporting the ones that want to fund and to cause true genocide against multiple nations and want nukes..

iran deserve to be deweaponised and sanctioned into poverty to not fund all these wars.
iran could have simply not breached the NPT and also could have signed the abreham accords, to then bring peace to the middle east and begun a era of prosperity for all nations in the area.. but instead they just wanted death and destruction.. and now the repercussions are hitting them back