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Iran's future Gaza I said it again.
  Israel is being bombed back to stone age right now ... These wars. To me, they ain't necessary. If every country could mind their own business, stay their lane, mutual respect the sovereignty and choices of others without external interferences, I don't think we will be having any need for war outbreak. The idea of one region or certain states wanting to making decisions for the rest of the world has been the problems leading to all of these wars in the different parts of the world.
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Israel has the best intention with their weapons, right? 
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Israel has the best intention with their weapons, right?  isreal is taking out key infrastructure like nuclear enrichment/refining factories. energy plants, leadership and scientists related to nuclear industry.. hamas, iran and other proxies randomly hit anything they please. and even use innocent residents they hide within as shields also. the US and EU (including the UK) are not moving near isreal to join offensively against iran (they are not firing shots at iran). however they will aid in defending isreal from irans strikes on isreal
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Israel has the best intention with their weapons, right?  isreal is taking out key infrastructure like nuclear enrichment/refining factories. energy plants, leadership and scientists related to nuclear industry.. hamas, iran and other proxies randomly hit anything they please. and even use innocent residents they hide within as shields also. the US and EU (including the UK) are not moving near isreal to join offensively against iran (they are not firing shots at iran). however they will aid in defending isreal from irans strikes on isreal This is propaganda as Israel hitting only innocent women's and kids for their own sack and now first time they are facing good and strong reply from any country which will give them good lesson. Few years back this terrorist Netanyahu was lobbying for killing of Saddam Hussain because he was crying he is threat to region but nothing happen but bombing from the USA and their allies Western countries bombed and kills millions of innocent now he is crying about Killing of Khamenei. But now world need to act properly and undone this Netanyahu and Israel for the sack of Middle East peace because they are the biggest problem here hopefully Iran will do this and this region could be much better and safe for next generation.
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The US is more or less placing the Ukraine war on hold. They are moving to fight Iran. Why? Because the thing that Iran has done has already increased Russia's price of crude by at last 8%. The Russian sanctions are falling apart because of Iran. And we can't have that now can we.
Roughly 90% of what has happened so far was done by the US already  There really isn't much more they can contribute except doing it more publicly and exaggerating it in their heavily controlled mainstream media! To "fight Iran" as you put it, they'll need troops not a bunch of aircrafts. Like Russia. Russia couldn't "fight Ukraine" with just aircrafts, they needed ground forces. US regime will need somewhere between 1.5 million to 2 million troops to "fight Iran". Troops they do not have so they'll have to start drafting people. Something that is impossible in the US because Americans don't want to go to the other side of the world and be evaporated hundreds at a time in order to protect Israel. Even deployment would take months and Israel is already over and the rats are abandoning ship https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/israeli-settlers-flee-by-yacht-as-iran-s-strikes-escalate--hThe only thing that making their aggression public would do is legitimizing Iran's massive retaliatory strikes against all US military targets in a 4000-5000 km radius. A lot of these legitimate targets are located in tiny cities controlled by family dictators such as Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, ... These retaliatory strikes will first dismantle these dictatorships and second would shoot the energy price to the moon. $200 per barrel would just be the beginning of it! Americans and Europeans who are having a hard time living with $60 oil (affects the petrol and diesel price therefore price of everything due to transport cost) will not be able to endure $200-$500 oil.
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I feared this would happen when the rumours started about tensions rising. I really wish this type of thing didn’t happen, there are no winners. I see that Iran has now pulled out of a meeting with the US on Sunday. This does not look good at all, there is a high chance of a huge war now, involving other countries.
It will definitely happen soon if this revenge continue. If Israel attack Iran again, it will take them long years before they will recover from the attack because Israel has some presidents backup secretly that is giving them the strength not to settle down for peace yet. Since innocent people are losing their lifes for this war, it will not look good until other presidents raise their voice to stop the war, because Israel and Iran don't want to end this crisis soon. What will make it to involve other countries is when U.S president support Iran or Israel that will make the war to involve other countries, which I know that U.S president Trump will continue to preach peace to both Iran and Israel to come to a round table to embrace peace.
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Israel has the best intention with their weapons, right?  isreal is taking out key infrastructure like nuclear enrichment/refining factories. energy plants, leadership and scientists related to nuclear industry.. hamas, iran and other proxies randomly hit anything they please. and even use innocent residents they hide within as shields also. the US and EU (including the UK) are not moving near isreal to join offensively against iran (they are not firing shots at iran). however they will aid in defending isreal from irans strikes on isreal I find your logic in your analysis highly contradictory. You believe that Israel is justified in targeting only military sites and has the right to defend itself against Iranian strikes with the help of its friends. However, Iran, which did not initiate the aggression, has no right to respond as it sees fit, and any support for Iran is by a way or another a try to supporting terrorism. Correct? I don't think you'd be much surprised if I told you that Israel targeted civilian facilities and killed civilians, including scientists, unless you don't consider them civilians. I also don't think you've forgotten that Israel initiated the aggression at the same time Iran sat at the negotiating table seeking diplomatic solutions to end the crisis. I also don't understand this desperate defense of Israel as if it were an innocent child. Governments and politicians support Israel to serve the Zionist agenda, but when I see ordinary people defending it while turning a blind eye to all its crimes for more than a century, I can only advise them to reconsider their humanitarian considerations before defending an ideology.
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However, Iran, which did not initiate the aggression
im just gonna quote you here and leave you to work out the mistake you made hints: slogans of "death to isreal, death to america" are not new slogans after 12th june 2025 building facilities to create nuclear bombs are not new building or blueprints designed after 12th june 2025 april, october 2024 (irans 'true promise' I,II) came before june 13th 2025 iran have also struck isreal other times between 2024 and june 2025 as for my contradictions if someone is holding a grenade and shouting they will throw it at your wife. you have the right to stop them before the pull the pin.. and if you stop them puling the pin does not mean you have to stand there and let you kill for stopping them, they dont earn the legal upper hand to fight back because you stopped them first.. they need to realise their wrong and surrender their efforts.. you are not suppose to just let them try other methods of taking you and your family out (well unless its taking you out for a romantic date to apologise) when iran declined to come to the peace deal negotiating table (meeting set for 15th, but they declined invite before the 13th) when iran declared they had nuclear manufacturing facilities they were hiding from inspectors when iran repeated their slogan of death to isreal death to america when iran declared they wanted to create nuclear bombs(and not just power stations) when iran declared a 15 year war (until 2040) where by isreal would be wiped off the planet by then isreal shouldnt just stand back and let it happen
but putting that all aside.. my main point of irans reaction is that if they were to attack back as retribution.. if they want to play the role of peaceful empathetic people, they should have limited the scope of targets to that of political and military locations.. and not just random civilians isreal actually took out scientists using precision missiles and information which allowed them to just take out a single apartment containing the scientist and not attempting to blow up an entire apartment block.  isreal actually limited the risk of collateral damage.. which iran cannot say the same
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This motherfucker franky denied the other day that Israel is not a proxy of the US and posted wall of text with bullshit arguments. I just checked the last three tweets of Donald Trump, and he now threatened Iran's supreme leader and called for unconditional surrender. So, Mr fucking1, what was your argument? Trump weighs U.S. involvement in Iran, demands ‘unconditional surrender’ as Iran and Israel trade strikesif someone is holding a grenade and shouting they will throw it at your wife. you have the right to stop them before the pull the pin.. and if you stop them puling the pin does not mean you have to stand there and let you kill for stopping them,
What a fucking logic. But the guy shouting, he doesn't even have a grenade, while you already have a lot of grenades. Fucking idiot without a brain.
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a "proxy" would be where isreal stands back, acts innocent but funds another nation to attack isreal enemy isreal has had inssues with countries far before trump, far before even america was discovered.. having a partner to help defend your country is a different matter entirely trump is not sending us military into any offensive action at iran. its just helping defend isreal from incoming missiles from iran isreal has its own reason to hit iran. its not just a paid puppet following orders also trumps asking for irans surrender. he is not threatening nukes. he is not calling for irans leaders death. it also worth noting that many many countries also have an opinion that iran should surrender, without any of those countries firing at iran  also to note iran took out a US embassy.. so now US does have a right to get involved.. however they are showing restraint and just doing defensive support not offensive "not for now" so whats your problem exactly?.. are you about to cry that your bubble just burst where you thought no one liked isreal and everyone loved iran.. aww poor boy, welcome to the grown up table... iran needs to stop. simple. and many countries agree and have this opinion, without having to throw a missile at iran to have such an opinion.. the countries of the abraham accords sharing this beleif of peace are not "proxies" .. and dont now go pretend that iran are innocent and just a proxy of russia because they got their weapons from russia.. thats not how things work at the grown up table
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I understand people shit in your head and you do not have any brain. Have you ever heard of a source? After all these, you are acting like the US is not involved in this. They just help Israel defend  You just said many countries suggest Iran surrender, where is the list of those countries? How many countries out of 193? Where is the source? Israel and the US are the most hated countries in the world. Just learn how to search the internet. Do not write these off-topic bullshit. No one reads all those walls of text. I see you got some feedback for a reason.
 isreal actually limited the risk of collateral damage.. which iran cannot say the same Are you sure fucking1? 
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I understand people shit in your head and you do not have any brain. Have you ever heard of a source? After all these, you are acting like the US is not involved in this. They just help Israel defend  You just said many countries suggest Iran surrender, where is the list of those countries? How many countries out of 193? Where is the source? Israel and the US are the most hated countries in the world. Just learn how to search the internet. in the world?? HA you mean your little echo chamber world of small minded iranian idealists count how many countries iran has trade deals with.. then count how many countries US have.. yep many want to trade with US.. so realise who likes who more iran imports $57b from 114 trade partners isreal imports $107b from 167 trade partners.. .. and thats productive for isreal, especially when seeing the land mass difference between isreal vs iran.. iran are behind the trade deal game of world economics and partnerships by many factors
also note the words at the G7.. they condemn irans actions Just learn how to search the internet. Do not write these off-topic bullshit. No one reads all those walls of text. I see you got some feedback for a reason.
 isreal actually limited the risk of collateral damage.. which iran cannot say the same Are you sure fucking1?  funny thing about you saying "learn to search the internet" and "dont write offtopic stuff".. this topic was about the strikes of isreal vs iran.. and yet you screenshot yourself performing a image search of.. wait for it.. gaza... image: "[isreali strikes in gaza]" (facepalm x2) (your just as bad as pooya taking pictures of elons starship and calling it a hellfire of iranian missiles headed towards isreal) try better with your sources
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Iran was waving the sword left and right, taunting people, so I'm not going to defend it, but Israel was doing the same, even much stronger. In fact Israel was the greatest bully in the region for decades. It would be great if someone could move Jews into one of those remote islands on one of the oceans so they had no borders with anyone and couldn't bully its neighbors, but we all know that's never going to happen.
All those poor people... Yup that's true every conflict always kills the innocent. But... Maybe it was time for those innocent in Israel to say something when thousands of Palestinians were being starved to death or buried under rubble? Maybe it was time for Iranians to say something when their drones were killing Ukrainians?
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Iran was waving the sword left and right, taunting people, so I'm not going to defend it, In fact Israel was the greatest bully in the region for decades.
It would be great if someone could move Jews into one of those remote islands on one of the oceans so they had no borders with anyone and couldn't bully its neighbors, but we all know that's never going to happen.
jewish/arab conflicts have been in existence far beyond decades.. far beyond millenia the isrealites(isreal) existed in that region far before the philistines(palestinians) and philistinia (palestine) is roughly what gaza is now and iran only became iran after 1935 (formally persia) .. as for bullying.. iran and its proxies are the ones with slogans of "death to isreal, death to america" iran and its proxies are the ones that want and threaten wanting the ability to perform nuclear genocide even multiple arabian countries dont want conflicts with isreal(signing abreham accords) and condemning irans nuclear desires
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Iran has been week away from making nukes since 1995 https://x.com/TheDailyShow/status/1935048445984665786@everyone, ignore fucking1 as he does not have a brain.
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June 17, 2025, 08:29:40 PM |
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jewish/arab conflicts have been in existence far beyond decades.. far beyond millenia
the isrealites(isreal) existed in that region far before the philistines(palestinians) and philistinia (palestine) is roughly what gaza is now and iran only became iran after 1935 (formally persia)
There's a lot of their feuds in the Bible, like David and Goliath (a Philistine). .. as for bullying.. iran and its proxies are the ones with slogans of "death to isreal, death to america"
They couldn't care less about America before Israel started to expand into their territory, but the US were the ones who helped the Jews at every step, so obviously they became the enemy. iran and its proxies are the ones that want and threaten wanting the ability to perform nuclear genocide even multiple arabian countries dont want conflicts with isreal(signing abreham accords) and condemning irans nuclear desires
Makes you wonder if they're afraid of Israel or America. Reminds me of Putin acting like he's so scared of Ukrainian nationalists that he must attack first before that power threatens the existence of Russia 
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1995: was weeks away until re-subscribing to the NPT(1970->25year contract->permenent unless using article x to exit) 2015: was weeks away until joining the deeper/additional JCPOA(2015->10 year contract) 2025 iran wants to exit NPT by activating article x
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Even as Israel holds American human shields hoping that their demise will rope America even more into their messianic fever-dream, United States of Israel politicians fall over themselves on social media to prove their dedication to their true owners. Disgusting. Israel BLOCKS ESCAPE, Uses US Citizens As HUMAN SHIELDS https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ca9yy2aOQSbA OUR "GREATEST ALLY" HAS MADE PLANS TO BOMB US! https://www.bitchute.com/video/5OHD09c53CKH Your greatest ally https://www.bitchute.com/video/ekR0XtAyh5rp
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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June 17, 2025, 10:44:45 PM |
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You will either hear such statements from the enemies of Iran or from those who have no concern in this battle but just hear the news on social media and develop their point of view.
Well most people who say weird things like that are simply repeating the lies they've been hearing a million times in mainstream media. I don't blame them though, I blame the mouthpieces who have told them these crazy things! People are sharing all kinds of fake news as well as AI generated images or videos relating to the Iran-Israel war. It's getting really hard to tell what is real and what's not, especially when its coming from unverified source and people who are far away blogging for quick bucks. I was scrolling through X yesterday, I look at a post and wonder if it's even true or not. This is becoming very absurd, just listen to this speech here - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/17/trump-usa-israel-iran-attacks/84243464007/?taid=6851e1e086eaf50001e0cbdb&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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