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...technical and fundamentals analysis doesn't mean much anymore, most traders just wait to know what the US president says or does next to determine their next line of action regarding their trading decision...
I do not agree with this statement, since the news generated by Trump is a catalyst for further price movement in the market, but we know its direction in advance thanks to technical analysis. I adhere to the concept that "News follows the chart, not the other way around". News can be reliable, but only good for short term. The rest are still based on fundamental and technical analysis. So if you trade and just only wait for a single tweet or message from the president or any big time celebrity, you will only make limited profits but if you trade following your fundamental and technical analysis, you know you are doing it for long term profitability. The best approach for trading now is, be updated with the news and events, along with your fundamental and technical findings, that way you will surely maximize your trading outcome and attain unlimited profits.
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This is something I found in a channel on telegram some days back, I saved up the image on my device because I found the information to be so true, I decided I will post it here which I am doing right now 😊, but I don't remember which channel I got this from.  Trading then vs trading now.. Trading back then used to be based on how good one is with technical and fundamental analysis, profiting from trading back then used to depend on how good one is with the analysis and also how good the trader is with use of market and price prediction tools. But today, things seems to have changed, today, it seems being profitable in trading depending on how much information you have access to and how early you have them. We've seen of late especially since the Trump declared support for Bitcoin way back before he was voted for and installed as the US president, the movement of price of Bitcoin have been largerly centered on his statements and actions, technical and fundamentals analysis doesn't mean much anymore, most traders just wait to know what the US president says or does next to determine their next line of action regarding their trading decision, and I can't help but ask if this is the new way to trade? By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?. I always thought that trading was mostly based on hype, I mean, the price of the coin or stock goes up when there is a positive signal, when the company announces something cool, when the coin gets listed on many exchanges, when the coin implements something cool and so on. If trading is based on fundamental and technical analysis, then doesn't it make trading a little strange? I mean, if it's like a chess, then everyone with a computer can beat others without a computer. If it's all math and technical things, then it's easy as ABC. I think that it's both. There are moments when technical analysis works but the difference is that this harmony gets violated when a hot news drops on crypto news websites or on Twitter.
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Meme shouldn't be taken seriously since most times their dont represent true reflection of realities, and Trump speach have nothing to do with the way and manner at which we trade, and sure technical analysis is still very vital in trading and for that we shouldn't compar it wirh any other.
Trump supports for bitcoin and the entire cryptocurrency ecosystem is quite awesome, and in most cases we should point to what exactly that support have Brought to bitcoin, most especially in policies that increases the adoption of cryptocurrency within the United States.
When we speak about trading and how profitable it can be for now, we shouldn't mix it up with political events and campaigns.
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This is something I found in a channel on telegram some days back, I saved up the image on my device because I found the information to be so true, I decided I will post it here which I am doing right now 😊, but I don't remember which channel I got this from.  Trading then vs trading now.. Trading back then used to be based on how good one is with technical and fundamental analysis, profiting from trading back then used to depend on how good one is with the analysis and also how good the trader is with use of market and price prediction tools. But today, things seems to have changed, today, it seems being profitable in trading depending on how much information you have access to and how early you have them. We've seen of late especially since the Trump declared support for Bitcoin way back before he was voted for and installed as the US president, the movement of price of Bitcoin have been largerly centered on his statements and actions, technical and fundamentals analysis doesn't mean much anymore, most traders just wait to know what the US president says or does next to determine their next line of action regarding their trading decision, and I can't help but ask if this is the new way to trade? By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?. I always thought that trading was mostly based on hype, I mean, the price of the coin or stock goes up when there is a positive signal, when the company announces something cool, when the coin gets listed on many exchanges, when the coin implements something cool and so on. If trading is based on fundamental and technical analysis, then doesn't it make trading a little strange? I mean, if it's like a chess, then everyone with a computer can beat others without a computer. If it's all math and technical things, then it's easy as ABC. I think that it's both. There are moments when technical analysis works but the difference is that this harmony gets violated when a hot news drops on crypto news websites or on Twitter. If you've been able to touch up forex and stocks then we would be able to say that news or events would be something significant on which there is even a news calendar on which you would be able to look on into and make use of it for you to be able to apply into your trades but still it wont be giving out that assurance but most likely it would be having those reactions and to those who had been that using up those FA's then it would be something helpful if you do know on how to make use of it and same goes when you are that using up tools or simply with TA's. Now that we are speaking about cryptocurrencies then it was once a market that isnt that affected with those external events or sentiments but now its already that highly reactive. If you've been that trading up with crypto for years then you would be able to see the differences but despite of these changes then why you would be finding yourself that being worried? Profitability will always reflect on how well you do find yourself that making up trades applying on all possible means of strategies that you can apply. It doesnt matter whether this market had made out those changes or not. The key on here is that on how you would be able to adapt and making yourself that versatile on which making use of strategies as much as you could.
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This didn't just start now, for a long time investors and traders have used tweets and actions of people who have some kind of influence on the market to make their short term predictions. The thing is, this is usually a short term strategy and as time goes on, those people no longer have as much influence as they did, for example, Elon Musk. Thus traders still use technical and fundamental analysis, particularly when you are looking at the long term.
Trading outcomes could be somehow influenced by VIP’s and celebrities but the length of duration is only temporary. That’s because their influence do not last longer, everything still goes back to the basics, having fundamental and technical analysis that would help to determine the final outcome when trading. Newbies in trading may not realized it now, but eventually, when they start losing consistently, that’s when they’ll start doing the fundamentals and technical thing.
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July 10, 2025, 10:05:09 PM |
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When we speak about trading and how profitable it can be for now, we shouldn't mix it up with political events and campaigns.
Of course bitcoin has been the major talk in the space and lot of people are venturing into bitcoin since the onset that Donald Trump has give a large support to bitcoin every other coin are following the movement of bitcoin to react positively except that there are some project that is mostly over hyped such as memecoin or something very similar. In meme coin I wouldn't encourage for people to buy such coin told in their custody as it would likely dump over the time and as new investor who doesn't know what the space is talking about they could keep losing for long. Initially those who ventured the market could make good profits and even thought the market has gain a new ATH then this should also reflects back to their profits level.
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Personally I take those both as a good aspect in my way im doing trade with the market stand like with the help of the technical analysis now I can have an idea what are the possible outcome of the market just an insight of course now because tons of people already engage with the market some of them got easily fear with the news and if you are early as possible you can an advantage where to take a position. Like with the news if you knew theres possible bad news with the market you can now sell of your asset and wait for the dip to bought back.
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The best approach for trading now is, be updated with the news and events, along with your fundamental and technical findings, that way you will surely maximize your trading outcome and attain unlimited profits.
the best way to trade is to always be updated on the latest market news, because no matter how strong the technical analysis you do, the news from the market is able to break everything... so understanding the news in the market and then doing technical analysis is one thing that needs to be done. because most traders who ignore fundamental news are always trapped in their own decisions, they are too confident in the chart analysis they do, though the market situation can change depending on market news.
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Trading this period can be so uncertain unlike few months ago where you can clearly see the movement of the asset yor are trading but this time around, the war incident of Iranian government and Israel, and the government of Trump is making market so uncertain. You can be shorting or longing and before you know it, you get sweep off by liquidity due news release. I am beginning to think that once we are about to enter Bitcoin bear season or when we are already in Bitcoin bear season, a bad incident will take place to make the price of Bitcoin dip and if what am thinking is true, this war might really have a side effects on Bitcoin but whatever price does, we should hold tight and buy more because after bear season, the bull season will emerge.
These days, the market has a significant impact on both traders and investors. Since the market hasn't recovered yet, we can observe that most traders and investors are very quiet. This is because the market's movement is unimpressive, which will make traders even less enjoy trading. The best option of action for investors right now, in my opinion, is to hold onto their money until the market stabilizes. Although the crypto market has fluctuated since Donald Trump was elected president, and before he was elected, he promised to make the cryptocurrency market more better and more standard, we are about half of the year now and there has been no change. The most shocking thing is that when the price of Bitcoin falls, the Alt Coins can undoubtedly follow as well, but when the price of Bitcoin rises, the Alt Coins can only remain constant.
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Personally I take those both as a good aspect in my way im doing trade with the market stand like with the help of the technical analysis now I can have an idea what are the possible outcome of the market just an insight of course now because tons of people already engage with the market some of them got easily fear with the news and if you are early as possible you can an advantage where to take a position. Like with the news if you knew theres possible bad news with the market you can now sell of your asset and wait for the dip to bought back.
Perhaps some people think that trading is not as easy as it used to be, when the price of Bitcoin was still quite cheap and there wasn't much panic going on. But now that all the trends are starting to change, more FUD and of course more FOMO in the end, the higher the price of Bitcoin or the more crowded the crypto market trend, the more disruption there will be. As you said, it all depends on where they are located, if you get in as early as possible then it will be easy to take advantage of the market conditions then or now and increasing your knowledge of technical and fundamental analysis is very important to learn. The people who say that trading is now difficult, they don't understand how the crypto market works and how each trend will happen, this is a cycle that actually repeats itself (maybe not completely, but the same).
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All of this happenings is making me all worked up especially based on the Trump speech that keeps changing the price of Bitcoin and making things unpredictable. I think trading before was found much more easier and stress free compared to now since then you can be focus on the fundamentals and technical analysis to see the position of your trade, but right now there have been a shift and thus affecting the whole system.
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All of this happenings is making me all worked up especially based on the Trump speech that keeps changing the price of Bitcoin and making things unpredictable. I think trading before was found much more easier and stress free compared to now since then you can be focus on the fundamentals and technical analysis to see the position of your trade, but right now there have been a shift and thus affecting the whole system.
Bitcoin has already improved a lot and stopping it here also protects other coins due to which it will continue to grow and is preparing to become a successful coin and its change indicates its good and bad value and if this were not the case then we would all understand that Bitcoin will go up now. That is because now it is explained in easier words which everyone can understand but some people still do not take advantage of it and fail.
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Although that is right, we still need to learn technical and fundamental analysis because that helps us to know when we can trade. If you just rely on the news without knowing about those two things, you may find it difficult to find the time to trade.
We can not just sit and search for the news, especially about Bitcoin and what happens to the US or other countries. With technical and fundamental analysis, we can search for the entry and exit point so we can make more profit.
It is how we can use the things we find and learn so that we can benefit ourselves in trading. I still believe in fundamentals and technical analysis and also in what has happened. Both fundamentals and technical analysis are related so we can not just use one side without learning more.
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All of this happenings is making me all worked up especially based on the Trump speech that keeps changing the price of Bitcoin and making things unpredictable. I think trading before was found much more easier and stress free compared to now since then you can be focus on the fundamentals and technical analysis to see the position of your trade, but right now there have been a shift and thus affecting the whole system.
Trump has been gaining followers and influence in the financial market and I will not be surprised if I see anything like market manipulation from him. Perhaps trading the market currently has been fun and easy to make money when you are smart and know a good source to get information that can increase your chances of making money from the crypto market. Once you keep following good and profitable strategy on X, you won't have much problem making money from the crypto market. Trump still has influence in the market since he's still in charge as the president of the United States.
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Although that is right, we still need to learn technical and fundamental analysis because that helps us to know when we can trade. If you just rely on the news without knowing about those two things, you may find it difficult to find the time to trade.
We can not just sit and search for the news, especially about Bitcoin and what happens to the US or other countries. With technical and fundamental analysis, we can search for the entry and exit point so we can make more profit.
It is how we can use the things we find and learn so that we can benefit ourselves in trading. I still believe in fundamentals and technical analysis and also in what has happened. Both fundamentals and technical analysis are related so we can not just use one side without learning more.
I believe not all are like that. Maybe those who are not that serious are only the ones who does that. Looking at the social media is I think part of fundamental analysis and FA alone can help actually help us to know when to trade but if we can also do TA why not? That should increase our chances dramatically. FA and TA are related in a way that they can be used in trading but not related in a way that one relies on the news and economic happenings, while the other is basing only on the charts and how the price moves. We can use one of them for a while if we are still starting and upon learning more, that is where we can now use both.
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justdimin
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Although that is right, we still need to learn technical and fundamental analysis because that helps us to know when we can trade. If you just rely on the news without knowing about those two things, you may find it difficult to find the time to trade.
We can not just sit and search for the news, especially about Bitcoin and what happens to the US or other countries. With technical and fundamental analysis, we can search for the entry and exit point so we can make more profit.
It is how we can use the things we find and learn so that we can benefit ourselves in trading. I still believe in fundamentals and technical analysis and also in what has happened. Both fundamentals and technical analysis are related so we can not just use one side without learning more.
FA and TA definitely could bring in a lot of money, and yes those tweets and what not could impact it short term, but FA and TA impacts it long term. You can't calculate when there will be a tweet, but you can calculate when you could make money with TA, so it is important to get that kind of education and study and try to be better. If you can do that, then the results will do a lot better. For the time being, we are seeing plenty of people focus on memes and tweets and what not, but that won't be easy and it won't be that great for the time being. If you want real money, the kind of money you can constantly make even if nobody tweets, then you need to study TA and FA and then you could start to actually make some money.
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