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Donald Trump once acknowledged that Elon is a genius and one of the, if not the best brain in US. He cannot make a U-turn to deport his genius. I see whatever happening between Trump and his friend Elon as a political game, but where it will arrive at is what I don't know. I haven't taken my time to understand deeply what is happening, but I sure know nothing deep is happening.
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July 03, 2025, 06:17:50 PM |
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I have been expecting Elon Musk to respond to Trump's threat to deport him. Surprisingly, Elon finally broke his silence with some kind words about the president: Credit where credit is due," Musk wrote. "Donald Trump has successfully resolved several serious conflicts around the world." https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-breaks-silence-following-35486258Many people were surprised because they expected the world's richest man to attack the POTUS. The general view is that he is scared of being deported, so he has to play nice.
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This is part of the problems though, but let's not look at this issue one-sided, As one of the 48 laws of power states that "Do not outshine your master" because this can lead to your potential downfall, if you look at the Elon Musk and Donald Trump issues, it started when Trump signed a bill which is not that favorable to Elon Musk's Business, Yes he supported Donald Trump immensely but that doesn't mean Trump will only their in the White House for his personal benefits, because Elon Musk's vote alone wouldn't have put Trump back into the white house. Elon Musk is forgetting that Trump is commander in chief and can make his business crumble over night with some ugly polices or by signing some executive order that would harm Musk's Businesses and Musk would lose heavily, Money and are two different things, Musk has money but don't have much of power as Donald Trump, whereas Trump has both.
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July 03, 2025, 07:39:55 PM |
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Musk has money but don't have much of power as Donald Trump, whereas Trump has both.
Trump has money but not as much as Musk. 🏦 Donald Trump Forbes (June 2025) pegs it at roughly $5.1 billion 🚀 Elon Musk Forbes (May 2025) lists him at approximately $381 billion . So Elon can follow through on his threats to fund a number of candidates, although I'm not sure he could start an entire party with fifty candidates. He would also have to move all that money silently to avoid deportation. But Elon doesn't need to win the next election - Trump has less than four years left, while Elon has forty.
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July 03, 2025, 07:55:28 PM |
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All I see in this case is just President Donald Trump trying to say things to confuse people the more so that no one will ever understand the real reason why he's going back and forth with his business partner and friend Elon Musk. He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen all I see is Trump threatening him just to let him know that he is the one with the power when though he has the bigger money so let's allow them to play games while we watch.
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July 03, 2025, 08:31:03 PM |
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He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen
Hasn't be betrayed many others that helped him get into office? It's past tense - doesn't matter now - what has he done for Trump lately? Elon has the $ to threaten Trump. Trump has the power to deport Elon and eliminate that threat. Elon knows it.
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A press agent can't just be revoked due to not liking someone - but it was. A president can't just call in the national guard for nothing - but he does. Trump break rules and if Elon had a chance of winning a new political party much better funded than Trump's, I can see Trump deporting him for some reason, regardless if it's valid or not. The fake Democracy is over - Trump is making a dash for the crown. They are both childish and they both always chicken out.  Is it not what every other top guy thinks that betraying his master counts. Just like what happened to Tony when he bit more than he can chew with Sosa. Nobody grows by trying to bring his master down. Trump is president and supreme, Elon won't be in Canada because Trump wants to turn it to the 51 state of America, Elon's money can't do that, he'll rather run to South African and when that happens, after 4 months nobody cares anymore. The media and press will move on to more important topics. Power speaks louder than cash. I knew Trump wasn't thinking about Elon when he said all sort of things against him. It is said; you can trick a rich man but don't insult him. Nobody saw Trump revealing all the bad things Elon has done in his life, but Elon did that to Trump which isn't right. The people of America don't feel good about their leader getting insulted by thesame guy they made rich. That's not good regardless. So whatever it is would be the outcome we'd most definitely get over it entirely before 4 months elapse. I'd want a bite of that chicken, anyways.
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July 03, 2025, 09:41:34 PM |
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Musk and Trump are showmen. These guys make sure they stay on the front page wherever they go. I don't think Trump could revoke Musk's citizenship. If there were even the slightest indication that Musk was a fraud from the start, I think it would have been known for a long time. Just as he's a man with many followers, he must also have haters. I think what's happening between them is more of an ego clash, to gauge who has more power or influence.
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July 03, 2025, 09:55:54 PM |
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All I see in this case is just President Donald Trump trying to say things to confuse people the more so that no one will ever understand the real reason why he's going back and forth with his business partner and friend Elon Musk. He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen all I see is Trump threatening him just to let him know that he is the one with the power when though he has the bigger money so let's allow them to play games while we watch.
1. trump didnt say the word deport. media asked the question using the word deport.. trump replied with the word DOGE. in short defunding musk.. 2. trump cant just deport someone, he needs to legally revoke citizenship and then also re-instate the citizenship of the persons native country meaning seeking the native countries willingness to take them back -- its a totally different situation and easier to deport someone thats already an illegal immigrant thus still have native citizenship outside the US 3. yes trump has stabbed friends in the back before.. micheal pence, micheal cohen, fauci
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July 03, 2025, 10:09:46 PM |
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All I see in this case is just President Donald Trump trying to say things to confuse people the more so that no one will ever understand the real reason why he's going back and forth with his business partner and friend Elon Musk. He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen all I see is Trump threatening him just to let him know that he is the one with the power when though he has the bigger money so let's allow them to play games while we watch.
1. trump didnt say the word deport. media asked the question using the word deport.. trump replied with the word DOGE. in short defunding musk.. 2. trump cant just deport someone, he needs to legally revoke citizenship and then also re-instate the citizenship of the persons native country meaning seeking the native countries willingness to take them back -- its a totally different situation and easier to deport someone thats already an illegal immigrant thus still have native citizenship outside the US 3. yes trump has stabbed friends in the back before.. micheal pence, micheal cohen, fauci 1. The media will not stop pushing a narrative just to get views and make the people to start flooding around their pages. 2. Betrayal is real but Trump will be ready to use the legal means to achieve what he wants if the beef between them is authentic. 3.All the names you mentioned is true but still I think Trump will not stab Elon Musk now because I believe he knows a lot about him and they both have some agreement before supporting his campaign.
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I have been expecting Elon Musk to respond to Trump's threat to deport him. Surprisingly, Elon finally broke his silence with some kind words about the president: Credit where credit is due," Musk wrote. "Donald Trump has successfully resolved several serious conflicts around the world." https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-breaks-silence-following-35486258Many people were surprised because they expected the world's richest man to attack the POTUS. The general view is that he is scared of being deported, so he has to play nice. Under the United States Constitution, all citizens are protected by the 14th Amendment. No one (not even the president) has the power to easily strip a person of their US citizenship or deport them without good cause. Meanwhile, Elon is a legal citizen of the United States (naturalized) and he is one of the most influential figures in the United States, from economics to politics. He also did not violate any US constitution, I wonder how Trump can deport Elon? Always verify what Trump says, don't be naive and easily believe what Trump says because sometimes he doesn't know what he's talking about. Like he keeps asking to fire the Fed chairman, but he clearly doesn't have the authority to do so. Trump has threatened to cut off government aid to Elon's companies, and Elon has not hesitated to say cut it all off immediately. I bet Trump would never dare do that. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1939911208393720002
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................ Trump has threatened to cut off government aid to Elon's companies, .............
That is exactly what DOGE is all about, get rid of freeriders. If he gets deported, he just goes back to Canada. This whole deporting thing is a question of how far back you go, at some stage Trump has to deport himself, all his Wife legal standing questionable. USA is the second worst place to be born after Eritrea, you pay Tax no matter were you life.
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Perhaps you have not seen what Trump and his administration is doing, but I will explain it to you, in case you don't understand the mindset or the plan Trump may have on his head for this term. All this is about pushing constitutional boundaries until the extrem, to see how far Trump and his team can get with whatever they want. Keep in mind the supreme court has already pulled the President of the United States is pretty much inmune to prosecution for whatever he does, as long as it is done as part of his duties, basically giving Trump a get our of jail for four years or even more. Also, the supreme court is obviously sided by Republicans and with the agenda of Trump, so even if the case of Trump wanting to remove the chairman of the FED was elevated to the SCOTUS, there is a chance they would mess with the separation of power and allow Trump to remove him from his position. He wants to be as authoritarian as possible.
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Perhaps you have not seen what Trump and his administration is doing, but I will explain it to you, in case you don't understand the mindset or the plan Trump may have on his head for this term. All this is about pushing constitutional boundaries until the extrem, to see how far Trump and his team can get with whatever they want. Keep in mind the supreme court has already pulled the President of the United States is pretty much inmune to prosecution for whatever he does, as long as it is done as part of his duties, basically giving Trump a get our of jail for four years or even more.
Also, the supreme court is obviously sided by Republicans and with the agenda of Trump, so even if the case of Trump wanting to remove the chairman of the FED was elevated to the SCOTUS, there is a chance they would mess with the separation of power and allow Trump to remove him from his position. He wants to be as authoritarian as possible.
I have heard accusations that SCOTUS is biased toward Trump and the Republican agenda. But I think that is not enough for Trump to easily break or distort the immutable rules of the constitution to do whatever he wants. Without a good reason, I don't think Trump can remove the Fed chairman even if there is bias from the Supreme Court. Because the destruction of the Fed's independence and the politicization of the Fed are not just causing outrage in US politics. That would have dire economic consequences, especially as the world's confidence in the US would collapse faster than ever. The US can stand firm and receive the trust of the world as it does today thanks to the perfect separation of powers. So if that gets broken, politicized…they lose the trust of the world. Trump has many advantages and power in this term but if he harms the interests and position of the US in the international arena. His fate could be similar to that of four presidents who have been assassinated in the past. American politics is complex and there are many mysteries beyond our understanding.
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Perhaps you have not seen what Trump and his administration is doing, but I will explain it to you, in case you don't understand the mindset or the plan Trump may have on his head for this term. All this is about pushing constitutional boundaries until the extrem, to see how far Trump and his team can get with whatever they want. Keep in mind the supreme court has already pulled the President of the United States is pretty much inmune to prosecution for whatever he does, as long as it is done as part of his duties, basically giving Trump a get our of jail for four years or even more.
Also, the supreme court is obviously sided by Republicans and with the agenda of Trump, so even if the case of Trump wanting to remove the chairman of the FED was elevated to the SCOTUS, there is a chance they would mess with the separation of power and allow Trump to remove him from his position. He wants to be as authoritarian as possible.
I have heard accusations that SCOTUS is biased toward Trump and the Republican agenda. But I think that is not enough for Trump to easily break or distort the immutable rules of the constitution to do whatever he wants. Without a good reason, I don't think Trump can remove the Fed chairman even if there is bias from the Supreme Court. Because the destruction of the Fed's independence and the politicization of the Fed are not just causing outrage in US politics. That would have dire economic consequences, especially as the world's confidence in the US would collapse faster than ever. The US can stand firm and receive the trust of the world as it does today thanks to the perfect separation of powers. So if that gets broken, politicized…they lose the trust of the world. Trump has many advantages and power in this term but if he harms the interests and position of the US in the international arena. His fate could be similar to that of four presidents who have been assassinated in the past. American politics is complex and there are many mysteries beyond our understanding. The thing that Trump should do is make US Treasury Notes as competition for the Federal Reserve Notes, and then offer them to the country. Treasury Notes are backed by gold, btw. 
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.......... The thing that Trump should do is make US Treasury Notes as competition for the Federal Reserve Notes, and then offer them to the country. Treasury Notes are backed by gold, btw.
The people have the power, not XRP* shill Trump (* the bearded people junk coin). https://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Deporting the richest man on earth would be the dumbest thing a country could do. It doesn’t matter what he does. Really now? Just because someone has money, can they do whatever to whoever? You care more for money than anything else on the planet, congrats.  The people have the power Wrong tense. People had the power.  Always verify what Trump says, don't be naive and easily believe what Trump says because sometimes he doesn't know what he's talking about. Like he keeps asking to fire the Fed chairman, but he clearly doesn't have the authority to do so. That alone shows that Trump is only for the show. Saying unproven and unfounded things just for the sake of impressions. He wants to provoke and have everyone engage with him and his nonsense. A true Joker President. Trump has threatened to cut off government aid to Elon's companies, and Elon has not hesitated to say cut it all off immediately. I bet Trump would never dare do that.
Of course he won't. He is known for his empty threats to almost everyone without listening to anyone. Well, only when Israel talks, he dances and runs to serve... Full of independence!
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Instead of people talking about non-sense and gossip like news related to Trump and Musk, they are supposed to be looking to improve the state of the economy and the strength of the US Dollar, lately the value of the American currency has been nose diving in relation to the Euro and other Fiats, it seems nobody is talking about it.
(Sorry, you are probably directing this at fellow citizens.) I feel no desire to improve the US economy after your king's recent actions/comments. Don't we want to improve the strength of bitcoin, which is a competitor to the USD? I believe the US currency is falling because of their increasing debt. It's a situation that almost everyone is familiar with - increasing expenses and decreasing income. But instead of caring about the countries finances, Trump is only concerned with his own. So the gossip around Trump is certainly valid - it's on everyone's minds and politics is something everyone feels they can change. But the national debt, stripped of all gold backing in 1971, is something no one can control. The debt to GDI will eventually grow and consume. Generally, economists consider that once a country’s debt-to-GDP (or debt-to-GDI/GDI) ratio exceeds approximately 90–100 percent, it enters a range where further borrowing becomes increasingly risky and often “unrecoverable”—meaning that growth slows sharply, interest costs escalate, and debt spirals become harder to avoid
As for the current U.S. position: According to the U.S. Treasury, the debt‑to‑GDP ratio for FY 2024 is about 123 percent (debt: ~$35.46 T / GDP: ~$28.83 T) Unrecoverable threshold: roughly 90–100 percent of GDP (some estimates as low as 75–80 percent)
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July 05, 2025, 04:46:16 PM Last edit: July 05, 2025, 06:18:31 PM by Spaceman1000$ |
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Elon musk already knew that the game he was about to enter was full of murky Waters, Elon musk did not follow Donald Trump as a politician, he went there probably with the pure thinking of aligning with the Donald Trump's policies to help place his business at an advantageous position. The truth is that, the real cause of their fallout has not been let known to the public, what we are just see is Mere theatrics as the root cause of their problem has not been revealed, maybe after the election Elon musk has been asking for his own pound of flesh which Donald Trump has viewed it to see that it is probably beyond his capacity to do what they might have agreed before now or he might be reneging on their agreement. But then I think the politicians within the trump Wing those of them are top ranking should come for a peace between the factions, from she understand that Elon musk went all out to support him so you can win this is Presidency.
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July 06, 2025, 03:06:58 AM |
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That alone shows that Trump is only for the show. Saying unproven and unfounded things just for the sake of impressions. He wants to provoke and have everyone engage with him and his nonsense. A true Joker President.
Honestly, if he could kick Elon out, cut funding for Elon's tech programs, or fire the Fed chairman...Given his character, and if he had the authority to do it, he would have done it a long time ago, not just go on social media and talk nonsense. I don't even remember how many times he has yelled and called for Powell to be fired but so far, the only thing he can do is continue to go on social media to repeat the same nonsense. Updated: Elon has officially formed a new party, the "America Party," and let's see if Trump can expel Elon or what he can do.
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