Another reason US regime (Axis) attacked Iran is Iran's vast scientific advances

[pooya87]

While US regime's mouthpieces keep repeating keywords with "nuclear" in it about Iran, only naïve people who were born yesterday are believing that nonsense. The rest of the world who are familiar with this rogue regime in Washington and remember the history like the lie they told about Iraq having WMDs to use that lie as an excuse to murder 1 million unarmed civilians, don't believe a word of it.

We already know the reason why the US-Zionist-Takfiri Axis attacked Iran was mainly 3 things:
1) The vast amount of resources Iran has, from oil and gas all the way to precious metals and rare minerals.
2) The strategic location of Iran from geographical perspective (north leads to Russia, east leads to China and both of them need Iran's "route" for their survival)
3) Iran support of the oppressed (including the Palestinians) and their struggle for freedom

But there is another reason that is often neglected.



I was going through the news and I saw an old video of one of the scientists that was murdered alongside his family in the recent terrorist attacks that the US Axis carried out in Iran (above picture showing his apartment building that was hit). In that video, doctor Mohammad-Mehdi Tehranchi, this physicist who was also a professor and president of the university in Tehran, was talking about an old article in the Nature magazine from 2005. In that article the opening line stood out to me:

"Scientific excellence can re-emerge in Iran, unless there is political upheaval or further sanctions."


This, more than being a normal article by Nature's editorial, it is a doctrine of the West. As we all know today Iran is one of the most technologically and scientifically advanced countries in the world that is currently leading in all new sciences (usually among top 3 or top 5 countries). The chart below is from an old article showing that very fast growth.



Now if you look back, you can see why US regime has been sanctioning Iran so much after seeing that kind of growth while these types of articles were being published. And of course US regime's foreign terrorist operatives known as CIA have been carrying out terrorist attacks killing Iranian scientists, carrying out coups and color revolutions (attempts) in Iran and have been trying to create so much chaos in the country.
Exactly as the title of that Nature article is saying!!! but as we know today, without succeeding in slowing down that scientific growth.

This gives this whole recent terrorist attack US regime carried out against civilians in Iran a whole new perspective. Of course this is not the first time they carry out such atrocities against civilians. Today marks the anniversary of one of the worst atrocities US regime has carried out. On 3 July 1988, US regime ordered shooting down of an Iranian passenger plane Flight 655. The terrorist commander of USS Vincennes entered Iranian waters in the Persian Gulf and launched an attack on this passenger plane inside Iranian airspace and killed all the 290 people on board.
That's not even the worst part! The US regime awarded this terrorist with Legion of Merit award for shooting down a passenger plane and murdering civilians!

Now you can better understand why Iran's retaliatory strikes over 12 days on the Axis were so deadly and devastating that led to Trump begging for ceasefire; specially after an entire US regime's THAAD battalion and all its personnel got "obliterated" in Ma'or base in a blinking of an eye with a single Iranian multi-warhead missile.

[Dunamisx]

Am not the type that likes politics, but i don't want to know the reason that can permit others to have a nuclear weapon while Iran is being deprived of this same privilege, they are truly advancing in their technology, but if some thinks it's unsafe for the world, then the same should apply to other countries as well who have already developed theirs.

If they destroy the development made in Iran today, what about the younger generations coming up, how about that, can they destroy the mentality and orientation in their minds or they history they met on ground, I don't think there is true freedom again as before.

[paxmao]

The reason why Iran is "deprived" of this right is because they have a regime that rutinarily calls for the destruction of another state (Israel) and it would be unwise to allow then to take action on that regard.

The reason why the nuclear facilities of Iran were attacked is because Israel the US and for that matter most of the world do not want the Ayhatolas to have nuclear missiles.

If not, they would attack the oild, the roads or whatever, but instead of that the attacks hitted (mainly) military targets and nuclear development facilities.

[franky1]

funny part is pooya is licking so much iranian ass he cant see anything but their cheeks, pushing crap in his direction

he displays a chart of how many papers they published and a statement suggesting medical excellence since the 6th century.. yet the chart shows nearly ZERO papers from 1996

reality is greece and italy have had better medical advances in ancient history. its why most medical terms are latin/greek based language

yes iran are TRYING to BECOME scientifically viable, but they are not there yet. they are not the top science centre of the world

the world doesnt mind iran economically and educationally prospering.. but no nukes.. its that simple
even pooya has to admit the guy he quotes who was targetted was a nuclear physician, not a surgeon, not a biologist, not a mathematician, not a structural engineer, not a geography expert.. he was not even educated in iran. he went to russia to learn about nuclear science

so irans opposition were not trying to destroy all sciences/professions.. just nuke stuff

and the fact that targets in iran related to nuclear intelligence were not in their thousands/millions.. but in their dozens. which shows that education of nuclear sciences are not that big in iran

funny part is most of the worlds intellects actually end up seeking travel visa's to come to western countries to become educated

as for pretending to be advance.. did iran have their own iron dome.. nope
were their rockets iranian created.. nope
did the leader use technology to protect himself.. nope.. he hid in a cave

[Liliana1304]

Another reason US regime (Axis) attacked Iran is Iran's vast scientific advances

I'd say not just because of that alone but because some hackers have dirt on Trump and his administration that our dear old Trump doesn't want being revealed. Look at it this way, cause a diversion so that their attention would be averted but as it seems, this action by the US will only be a boomerang.
It has been disclosed that hackers with links to Iran have laid their hands on emails linked to the POTUS. In also not a fan of the shenanigans these politicians involve themselves with but we know that the US tend to feel threatened when another country wants to become stronger than in the arms and nuclear department, especially if they feel that this nation should be beneath them, they will employ every trick in the book to silence them so I'm not even in the least bit surprised that they are staging this war against Iran but putting Israel in front just for their selfish purposes.

Iran on the other hand say that the purpose for their nuclear program is not for anything harmful but for the generation of power because any other use would be a violation of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, of which they are part of the signatories and it's also against Islamic religious principles.

[pooya87]

Am not the type that likes politics, but i don't want to know the reason that can permit others to have a nuclear weapon while Iran is being deprived of this same privilege, they are truly advancing in their technology, but if some thinks it's unsafe for the world, then the same should apply to other countries as well who have already developed theirs.

The problem is that despite having the technology, Iran has never moved toward making the bomb. Iran's nuclear program has always been a civilian and peaceful one and has been under the most number of inspections by the IAEA.

The reason why Iran is "deprived" of this right is because they have a regime that rutinarily calls for the destruction of another state (Israel) and it would be unwise to allow then to take action on that regard.

You mean the Zionist terrorist organization that has been carrying out a genocide in Palestine? The whole world is now demanding its destruction. As an example try visiting the music festivals in England these days and listen to what they're chanting...

https://www.aparat.com/v/ohf36w9

The reason why the nuclear facilities of Iran were attacked is because Israel the US and for that matter most of the world do not want the Ayhatolas to have nuclear missiles.

If not, they would attack the oild, the roads or whatever, but instead of that the attacks hitted (mainly) military targets and nuclear development facilities.

I'm not surprised that same users who supported al-Qaeda and whitewashed the ISIS deputy al-Jolani's crimes as a globally recognized terrorist are now whitewashing terrorist attacks carried out by the NATO-Zionist-Takfiri Axis against civilian targets in Iran.

Lets see some of those "military" and "nuclear" targets the axis hit.
Here are 6 of the 935 victims paxmao claims to be "military targets":


And here is one of those targets paxmao claims to be a nuclear facility (click to see the video):


The worst part is that these al-Qaeda sympathizers don't even realize that attacking civilian nuclear facilities of a member of NPT and IAEA is against IAEA and NPT, the international law, the UN charter and the Geneva convention. They talk about it as if it is a legitimate thing and even worse is that they don't realize that when they openly and shamelessly support it, they are legitimizing retaliation of the same type... #sejjil

[Fiatless]

The worst part is that these al-Qaeda sympathizers don't even realize that attacking civilian nuclear facilities of a member of NPT and IAEA is against IAEA and NPT, the international law, the UN charter and the Geneva convention. They talk about it as if it is a legitimate thing and even worse is that they don't realize that when they openly and shamelessly support it, they are legitimizing retaliation of the same type... #sejjil

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) never condemned the attacks on Iran by Israel and the US, even when it is clearly a violation of the UN charter and the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT). But they immediately condemned Russia when it attacked Ukrainian nuclear plants. I don't have confidence in the fairness of these organisations because they seem to be a political group that is affiliated with the US.

[Hispo]

As a rule of thumb, I don't want more autocracies to have access to nuclear weapons. The United States has long learnt the lesson with north Korea, and they are not willing to commit the same mistake the did back when they decided not to push further after the Korean war. They have proven themselves incapable of attacking and overthrowing a regime which has access to nuclear weapons, because of the military doctrine of mutual nuclear destruction.
North Korea is a small insignificant country with little resources and still the USA does not dare to mess with them because those nukes, it is what the regime of Tehran wants to accomplish and what the United States seeks to prevent at all cost, because Iran sure is not as small and insignicant as NK is. It has vast resources and are capable of actually becoming a threat to western values.

[Fiatless]

As a rule of thumb, I don't want more autocracies to have access to nuclear weapons.

It depends on your definition of autocracy. The United States president doesn't need the permission of Congress to use a nuclear weapon. So the president can act at will, that doesn't look democratic.

They have proven themselves incapable of attacking and overthrowing a regime which has access to nuclear weapons, because of the military doctrine of mutual nuclear destruction.

I might be wrong, but some of the nations the US claimed have nuclear weapons turned out to be fake. Iraq is an example.

North Korea is a small insignificant country with little resources and still the USA does not dare to mess with them because those nukes, it is what the regime of Tehran wants to accomplish and what the United States seeks to prevent at all cost, because Iran sure is not as small and insignicant as NK is. It has vast resources and are capable of actually becoming a threat to western values.

Negotiations would have been the best option. Libya peacefully gave up its nuclear programmes through dialogue and not by force.

[pooya87]

As a rule of thumb, I don't want more autocracies to have access to nuclear weapons.

Iran is a democracy!

As I've already explained in OP, this had nothing to do with nukes. And if Iran wanted to build nukes nobody could have prevent it from happening. Just like they could never prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear energy and enrichment science, air-defense, beyond advanced radars, ballistic missiles, submarines, nano technology, cloning, stem cell research, cancer treatment, medical engineering, Space program, and a million other advanced sciences they tried to prevent Iran from acquiring (by murdering the scientists as I explained in OP) and failed...
The US regime simply does not have the power to prevent any of it.

The only reason why Iran has not moved in that direction is because of Islam.

According to the fatwa of Ayatollah Khamenei (Imam of Muslims), nuclear weapon which is considered a weapon of mass destruction is haram.
Same situation existed back in the 1980's during Imam Khomeini time about chemical weapons during the time when the same Axis invaded Iran and was using chemical weapons against Iranians (bombing cities with it). When military commanders went to him as the "commander in chief" to get permission to acquire chemical weapons to respond to the enemy in the same manner, he did not allow it. WMDs are considered haram. And back in the 80's from a military perspective, Iran didn't really have anything but god. Today Iran has EVERYTHING and god.

[LTU_btc]

Lets see some of those "military" and "nuclear" targets the axis hit.
Here are 6 of the 935 victims paxmao claims to be "military targets":
https://www.talkimg.com/image/UwRzt8]

And here is one of those targets paxmao claims to be a nuclear facility (click to see the video):

Why these children doesn't looks like real people, more like AI created stuff? Anyway, unfortunately every war or military conflict have more or less victims between civilians, it's inevitable. Especially if military target is in the middle of city or covered behind civilian objects.
And offcourse, you won't complain about civilian victims of Iran strikes on Israel

[MusaPk]

Iran is a democracy!

As I've already explained in OP, this had nothing to do with nukes. And if Iran wanted to build nukes nobody could have prevent it from happening. Just like they could never prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear energy and enrichment science, air-defense, beyond advanced radars, ballistic missiles, submarines, nano technology, cloning, stem cell research, cancer treatment, medical engineering, Space program, and a million other advanced sciences they tried to prevent Iran from acquiring (by murdering the scientists as I explained in OP) and failed...
The US regime simply does not have the power to prevent any of it.

The only reason why Iran has not moved in that direction is because of Islam.

According to the fatwa of Ayatollah Khamenei (Imam of Muslims), nuclear weapon which is considered a weapon of mass destruction is haram.
Same situation existed back in the 1980's during Imam Khomeini time about chemical weapons during the time when the same Axis invaded Iran and was using chemical weapons against Iranians (bombing cities with it). When military commanders went to him as the "commander in chief" to get permission to acquire chemical weapons to respond to the enemy in the same manner, he did not allow it. WMDs are considered haram. And back in the 80's from a military perspective, Iran didn't really have anything but god. Today Iran has EVERYTHING and god.

The recent Iran-Israel war gives a good proof that how Iran (an isolated country) fought well with country like Israel who has full support of US and Europe. It's irony that Europe and US is so much worried about Iran intentions to acquire Nuclear weapons but they are blindfolded on Israel atrocities in GAZA for last two years. It's nothing but double standard.   

There are unconfirmed news that Iran is set to buy China J10c aircraft but if that's true then Iran Air superiority will be strengthen in the region. In May this year Pakistan Air Force successfully shot down Indian air force Rafael by using J10c and PL15 missiles, that's a deadly combo.

As far as Islam and Nuclear weapons is concerned. Islam prohibits killing of innocent and unarmed people and also prohibits attacking others without any strong reason but instruct it's followers to be ready for self defence. Pakistan acquire nuclear technology only after India acquired and tested it. We were no more on earth map, if we were don't have nuclear weapons and this technology has forced India to stay outside our territory.

If USA, Israel, France, UK can acquire nuclear weapons then why not Iran can have them for self defence?

[General_Bitcoin]

Lets see some of those "military" and "nuclear" targets the axis hit.
Here are 6 of the 935 victims paxmao claims to be "military targets":
https://www.talkimg.com/image/UwRzt8]

And here is one of those targets paxmao claims to be a nuclear facility (click to see the video):

Why these children doesn't looks like real people, more like AI created stuff? Anyway, unfortunately every war or military conflict have more or less victims between civilians, it's inevitable. Especially if military target is in the middle of city or covered behind civilian objects.
And offcourse, you won't complain about civilian victims of Iran strikes on Israel

These are not looking real to you because these are Muslim children if these are from Israel or any other non-Muslim country then also surely these are going to be real for you because this is all about mindset which is working behind this for years.
No one can justify Israelian and Americans attack on Iran because this was just based on propaganda of Israel which is the biggest terrorist country in the Middle East and surviving just because of the USA.
Terrorist Netanyahu speaking against Iraq and Iran since 1996 because they are looking for control on this region and after having attack on Iraq there were nothing which was give justification attack on Iraq now same happening they are doing their own job for the security of Israel.

[paxmao]

Am not the type that likes politics, but i don't want to know the reason that can permit others to have a nuclear weapon while Iran is being deprived of this same privilege, they are truly advancing in their technology, but if some thinks it's unsafe for the world, then the same should apply to other countries as well who have already developed theirs.

The problem is that despite having the technology, Iran has never moved toward making the bomb. Iran's nuclear program has always been a civilian and peaceful one and has been under the most number of inspections by the IAEA.

The reason why Iran is "deprived" of this right is because they have a regime that rutinarily calls for the destruction of another state (Israel) and it would be unwise to allow then to take action on that regard.

You mean the Zionist terrorist organization that has been carrying out a genocide in Palestine? The whole world is now demanding its destruction. As an example try visiting the music festivals in England these days and listen to what they're chanting...

https://www.aparat.com/v/ohf36w9

The reason why the nuclear facilities of Iran were attacked is because Israel the US and for that matter most of the world do not want the Ayhatolas to have nuclear missiles.

If not, they would attack the oild, the roads or whatever, but instead of that the attacks hitted (mainly) military targets and nuclear development facilities.

I'm not surprised that same users who supported al-Qaeda and whitewashed the ISIS deputy al-Jolani's crimes as a globally recognized terrorist are now whitewashing terrorist attacks carried out by the NATO-Zionist-Takfiri Axis against civilian targets in Iran.

Lets see some of those "military" and "nuclear" targets the axis hit.
Here are 6 of the 935 victims paxmao claims to be "military targets":


And here is one of those targets paxmao claims to be a nuclear facility (click to see the video):


The worst part is that these al-Qaeda sympathizers don't even realize that attacking civilian nuclear facilities of a member of NPT and IAEA is against IAEA and NPT, the international law, the UN charter and the Geneva convention. They talk about it as if it is a legitimate thing and even worse is that they don't realize that when they openly and shamelessly support it, they are legitimizing retaliation of the same type... #sejjil

You are a hipocryte. You come here claiming that Iran had civilian casualties while Iran has been selling Sahed drones by the thousands to Russia to be used directly against Ukrainian major cities - and that IS specifically concieved to kill civilians. How are you here claiming to be any kind of victim??

Regardless of the accuracy of you "information", it is impossible to hit a command center in the middle of Theran without creating a degree of damage that will surely have some impact in a limited number of people. Also, some campaign targets were command centers, generals and other and yes, some were killed where they live, so unfortunately that means their families were be affected.

That is war and that is what happens when you are permanent calling for war and trying to get nukes. I would recommend said people to rebel and throw the Iranian regime to the bin and start a path of freedom from people like you and your puppetmasters.

But no, there has been no "punishment" for the general population of Iran, this has been a short war and a selective one.

[franky1]

Lets see some of those "military" and "nuclear" targets the axis hit.
Here are 6 of the 935 victims paxmao claims to be "military targets":

you make out that isreal picked the children/targeted the children. how about do some research
work out who the kids parents were, then you will see why the homes were targeted.. (hint: it wasnt about the kids)
those around promenent targets are the collateral damage, not the intended targets

however hamas and iran take random shots at random people no matter the age, gender..
hamas and iran have many thousands of examples of shooting randomly at no specific target but end up hurting or killing women and children

[Hispo]

As a rule of thumb, I don't want more autocracies to have access to nuclear weapons.

Iran is a democracy!

If the country and the system which manages it does not even allow their citizens to wear what they want during their daily routines, then we are not talking about a democracy, rather a theocracy. Not even mention people can vote for the president of Iran, but they have no saying on whether they want to remove their supreme leader through a referendum through direct vote, but even mention that supreme leader is set to rule the country for the rest of his life after being selected. Does not sound like a democracy to me.
Next thing I will read in the forum will be someone claiming North Korea is a democracy as well, I guess.

[franky1]

iran is a democracy country.. a demolition-crazy country.. pooya just has his pronunciations wrong

[pooya87]

Why these children doesn't looks like real people, more like AI created stuff?

Because you don't want to believe the terrorist cult aka Israel the Zionist Zelensky is also a member of is a terrorist organization and the Axis is only capable of killing civilians.

Feel free to come to Tehran and visit the exact street this evil Axis targeted...

Iran has been selling Sahed drones by the thousands to Russia to be used directly against Ukrainian major cities

I've already explained it a dozen times, I won't repeat it.
You on the other hand have not yet explained why Ukraine has been cooperating, training and arming al-Qaeda without even hiding it.

By the way, Iran has arrested multiple Ukrainian terrorists in some Iranian cities over the past weeks. How do you justify that?

If the country and the system which manages it does not even allow their citizens to wear what they want during their daily routines,

Indecent Exposure laws exist in all countries and they are based on the values of that society and its people's culture. Such laws are decided by the people of that country and their representatives in their parliament (called Majles in Iran) who pass these laws.

but they have no saying on whether they want to remove their supreme leader through a referendum through direct vote, but even mention that supreme leader is set to rule the country for the rest of his life after being selected.

That's not how it works, the leader is elected by people's representatives and is set to remain in that position as long as he is fit for that position both of which are again decided by those representatives who are directly elected by the people though elections every couple of years.

This democratic system is also put to vote and in a referendum after the revolution, 98% of the population voted for it. The Iran's Constitution and all its principles are also put to a referendum and people voted for it and its changes.

So again just because the foreigners are not familiar with this system and haven't read anything about it, doesn't make what people have voted for non-democratic!

[paxmao]

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I've already explained it a dozen times, I won't repeat it.
You on the other hand have not yet explained why Ukraine has been cooperating, training and arming al-Qaeda without even hiding it.

By the way, Iran has arrested multiple Ukrainian terrorists in some Iranian cities over the past weeks. How do you justify that?
[...]

How do I justify YOUR fake information? I am not sure you really understand who has to justify what.

Iran is a democracy!

[...]

As far as Islam and Nuclear weapons is concerned. Islam prohibits killing of innocent and unarmed people and also prohibits attacking others without any strong reason but instruct it's followers to be ready for self defence. Pakistan acquire nuclear technology only after India acquired and tested it. We were no more on earth map, if we were don't have nuclear weapons and this technology has forced India to stay outside our territory.

If USA, Israel, France, UK can acquire nuclear weapons then why not Iran can have them for self defence?

Iran is NOT a democracy. One of the pillars of Democracy is the ability of any citizen (sometimes with some requirements of age or nationality) to be a candidate. In Iran, candidates are vetoed by the Theocratic junta which is permanent and not elected. But I of course can understand that you are very confused about what is a Democracty and how it works.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consejo_de_Guardianes


There is no "legal" reason why Iran, as estate and regardless of being or not democratic, could not develop any weapon they choose. But, there is also no particular reason why Israel of the US will allow them to do so.

Again, if you tell me everyday that you want to see me dead, there is no legal reason preventing you to buy a gun, but I am going to make it as difficult as possible for you for obvious reasons.

That defence argument... is it false. India or Pakistan or any other nuclear power have no plan nor have shown any intention to invade Iran.

The real reason is much simpler: The nukes are not to protect "Iran", they are to protect the current Ayatollah's regime. It would be in everyone's interes to have a estable government when they have nukes. Same with Putin - US does not want to kill or "dethrone" because they know Putin understands the consequences of using nukes.

That is the reason to have nukes, and that is the reason why other countries will not allow it.

Funny that you mention Islam and the banning of killing, etc... But then defend Al Asad and the Iranian regime.

[Franctoshi]

Am not the type that likes politics, but i don't want to know the reason that can permit others to have a nuclear weapon while Iran is being deprived of this same privilege, they are truly advancing in their technology, but if some thinks it's unsafe for the world, then the same should apply to other countries as well who have already developed theirs.

If they destroy the development made in Iran today, what about the younger generations coming up, how about that, can they destroy the mentality and orientation in their minds or they history they met on ground, I don't think there is true freedom again as before.

The game here is very clear if you do understand the world's politics, You would understand it was a very strategic way to stopping Iran and not maillnly as the world Terrorist headquarters as said, Because the US as the world power doesn't want a country that's not a United state ally to have in their possession another Nuclear weapon amid the threat pose by Russia, China, and North Korea Nuclear facility.
The Israeli government in quote has a Nuclear weapon but they are protected by the US even when it was rumoured they were developing theirs back years, but the US chosed to keep quiet because Israel is one of their strongest Allies, therefore, the Israeli government's possession of a nuclear weapon is of advantage to them against their Enemies and Russian, North Korea and China counterparts.