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July 12, 2025, 08:20:49 AM
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So, what do you think about this?
Donald Trump is a tyrant. What a shame for him to be the president of the most important country in the world.

Well, this is a show of power rather than politically or economically motivated. If you remember a few days ago, the president of Brazil, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, hinted that Trump doesn't have the monopoly of power on tariffs, I think that's what vexes Trump to act that way. Trump often reacts emotionally, like women, rather than logically.

You see what is happening in Africa now, where Trump is imposing harsh policies simply because Africa refuses to take the refugees from Venezuela. Is that not blackmail? So, Trump is what he is, but he forgot that his time there is not forever.

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July 12, 2025, 09:25:24 AM
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In my opinion, when August 1st arrives, I think he will postpone all of these tariffs or lower them. There is no way these are going to stick. He has been promising tariffs since January pretty much and keeps going back and forth. Any type of tariff that is larger than 10% is just way too large, whether its 25% or 35% or 50%, these tariffs are crazy and won't last long.

That's what I'm thinking and that's what he's been doing since the tariff war started. When it comes time to impose tariffs, he will lower or delay them.

Simply because imposing such large tariffs not only damages exporting countries but also directly affects consumers and the growth of the US economy. Not only other countries, but even the US economy itself is not ready for and able to withstand such crazy tariffs.

Trump appears to be using the threat of tariffs to seek more favorable deals for the United States. He himself did not want that to happen.

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July 12, 2025, 07:49:09 PM
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Trying to make Americans and also Brazilians be in trouble financially because Brazilian government did something that USA government doesn't like? How does that make any sense? I get it, I do understand the whole communism etc etc thing, and Bolsonaro thing and all that, and I get you could definitely have some arguments over it.

But this tariff, hurts people of USA (makes no sense) and hurts people of Brazil too. Even if you imagine that you do not care about Brazilians, or make life harder for them just to make sure they understand who is at fault and riot against their government in your best dreams. Even in that case, why hurt Americans because of high tariffs? Like what did Americans do to deserve their presidents making life more expensive?

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July 12, 2025, 08:11:38 PM
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It's interesting to see what users from other countries think about Trump's tax on Brazil

A curiosity that I don't know if everyone knows, but Brazilians pay absurd import taxes, supposedly to "protect" the local industry, which is not true
As an ordinary user, I pay almost 100% taxes on some products I import from China or the United States, even if they are not manufactured in Brazil and have no competition in the country, this is really hard because in the small company I work, we need some supplies that only exists in USA and China

Brazilian citizens have been paying the price of politicians for a long time now

 
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July 12, 2025, 09:26:41 PM
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I don't really know what is the problem of Donald Trump and he is targeting high economic countries. What is even the essence of these tariffs. Now he has also announce 30% on EU and Mexico goods starting from August 1, i just hope that this tariff war should not have same effect it got during the tariff war against China when the price of bitcoin fell drastically before the price gain back strength after he announced a 90 days tariff pause. Anyways, no matter how the tariffs tends to affect the price of bitcoin, i think it will not be so tensed as it was at the first time.

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I don't really know what is the problem of Donald Trump and he is targeting high economic countries. What is even the essence of these tariffs. Now he has also announce 30% on EU and Mexico goods starting from August 1, i just hope that this tariff war should not have same effect it got during the tariff war against China when the price of bitcoin fell drastically before the price gain back strength after he announced a 90 days tariff pause. Anyways, no matter how the tariffs tends to affect the price of bitcoin, i think it will not be so tensed as it was at the first time.
When he takes oath of President he makes statement he will do everything for having USA as great again but due to his policies and tariffs things are getting worst for peoples even in the USA his most decisions are political which are making things more troubling currently he punishes Brazil for having important role in BRICS.
He needs to reconsider his few policies which can bring better results instead of going things which will make more problems for all due to recent few activities now his main target are countries those are going close to China and Russia but most chances they are not going to have changes into their policies.
Both are having good trading relationship and things like these surely going to have impact on both economies which are negative because if Brazil hits then USA will also feel pressure from them as response to this tariff.
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July 12, 2025, 09:47:37 PM
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This week, our stock market index, the Ibovespa, recorded its largest drop since December 2022, 3.59%, a clear reflection of Donald Trump's decision. Some of our agricultural companies have between 10% and 15% of their gross revenue tied to the United States market, while others have an average of between 19% and almost 50% of their revenue tied to the US market (as is the case with Embraer).

Yes, my friends, the impact on our economy is expected to be significant, but unfortunately, we are not alone in this. Other countries will also see their economies affected by Trump's "protectionist" taxation.

What's aggravating this whole situation with Brazil is the fact that President Lula clearly supports countries that oppose American interests. This could also be seen as retaliation for certain events that have already been reported in the media and I don't want to mention again.

 
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July 13, 2025, 05:15:21 AM
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Now he has also announce 30% on EU and Mexico goods starting from August 1,
Not only the EU and Mexico, Canada and many other countries will also be hit with crazy tariffs on August 1, and Trump has announced that he will not extend the tariff suspension.



i just hope that this tariff war should not have same effect it got during the tariff war against China when the price of bitcoin fell drastically before the price gain back strength after he announced a 90 days tariff pause. Anyways, no matter how the tariffs tends to affect the price of bitcoin, i think it will not be so tensed as it was at the first time.

You're probably right that they won't be as severe as they first time. Normally, when this news is announced, the market would react immediately but as we see, the market seems to be adapting very well and is gradually no longer concerned about the tariff war. Stocks and bitcoin continue rising despite the tariff news. But we should not be subjective because the tax only takes effect from August 1, not now, so it is still too early to say anything.

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Yes, my friends, the impact on our economy is expected to be significant, but unfortunately, we are not alone in this. Other countries will also see their economies affected by Trump's "protectionist" taxation.
The American economy is also not going to be left out if Trump starts an economic war, remember that the United States imports significantly from the Brazil market, so a retaliatory 50% tariff from Brazil would also be significant for the U.S. and its customers.

Trump cannot successfully bully the entire world and if he keeps up with it, over time it will only push the rest of the world to trade more often with one another and avoid the U.S. market in situations when they can, which will be bad for them.

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I am pretty sure this is regards to BRICS and not about communists or how Brazil is governed. I get that it may not be the best nation politically, but USA didn't do anything about it, all the way until BRICS and now they are retaliating for what BRICS İs doing.

He already did this with Russia and China, now he is aiming at Brazil, and could even increase it more in the future. Dude knows that going to a war with any nation is costly and dangers his position, but making economical warfare is free for him and he is allowed to do. So instead of actually fighting, he is just increasing tariffs on whoever he wants, makes more sense to him and easier to handle the paperwork too, he doesn't get that much backlash because of it neither.

However you know this is not only politics by BRICS, I think it is too much personal and political. 50% tariff is now official on Trump's lawsuit against Brazil's Bolsonaro. Something like witch hunt & for importing coffee, orange juice, beef, & aircraft set a 42 billion trade target. Though BRICS are kinda retaliatory, but you know it is more than a political saga, something like picking up leverage to stay away from military hostility. It is obvious our inflation rate will climb and also shake up world market. More worst thing is Brazil is imposing groundworking reciprocal tariffs, so now we need soft diplomacy from both sides to defuse tensions. I could not consider it as cheap politics or easy leverage, both countries economy and consumers will get hampered.

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July 13, 2025, 03:56:27 PM
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Yes, my friends, the impact on our economy is expected to be significant, but unfortunately, we are not alone in this. Other countries will also see their economies affected by Trump's "protectionist" taxation.
The American economy is also not going to be left out if Trump starts an economic war, remember that the United States imports significantly from the Brazil market, so a retaliatory 50% tariff from Brazil would also be significant for the U.S. and its customers.

There is no trade deficit between the United States and Brazil, and in fact, the value of US exports to Brazil is greater than the value of imports. That means if Trump wants to have a trade war with Brazil, they will be the country that suffers more.
Brazil is a rare country that has a trade deficit with the United States, along with the Netherlands and Hong Kong, and taxing these countries would not benefit American businesses and consumers.

Trump cannot successfully bully the entire world and if he keeps up with it, over time it will only push the rest of the world to trade more often with one another and avoid the U.S. market in situations when they can, which will be bad for them.

Even if he had no such intention, with the threats he made, the rest of the world woke up and tried to stay away from the US market because no one wants to be bullied or threatened again in the future.

BRICS is benefiting more than ever as more countries want to join and become partners.

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I don't really know what is the problem of Donald Trump and he is targeting high economic countries. What is even the essence of these tariffs. Now he has also announce 30% on EU and Mexico goods starting from August 1, i just hope that this tariff war should not have same effect it got during the tariff war against China when the price of bitcoin fell drastically before the price gain back strength after he announced a 90 days tariff pause. Anyways, no matter how the tariffs tends to affect the price of bitcoin, i think it will not be so tensed as it was at the first time.
When he takes oath of President he makes statement he will do everything for having USA as great again but due to his policies and tariffs things are getting worst for peoples even in the USA his most decisions are political which are making things more troubling currently he punishes Brazil for having important role in BRICS.
He needs to reconsider his few policies which can bring better results instead of going things which will make more problems for all due to recent few activities now his main target are countries those are going close to China and Russia but most chances they are not going to have changes into their policies.
Both are having good trading relationship and things like these surely going to have impact on both economies which are negative because if Brazil hits then USA will also feel pressure from them as response to this tariff.
I am against that perspective of Donald Trump because has dominanting attitude and in the past , we saw bad relationships by Donald trump with the economic powers because he want the success of USA and he is against the big power and the countries which are trying to be big powers . Elon musk is also against USA because Donald trump threaten Elon musk and Elon musk is trying to enter in politics. Brazil is peace having country and they don't want to do war with any country but Donald always try to dominant on small countries, that is the reason BRICS arose and we saw good progress of that currency.Donald will do the sr things and there will be no change in his behavior.

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While many looks up to Trump but, what he's doing with the tariff is damaging the economy of other countries. He's not just applying tariffs that much to Brazil but I think a list has been released and it includes all countries that have been placed with so much tariffs. While the BRICS is continually gaining allies from different continents. Trump is doing it wrongly and with his long time allies like Canada, he didn't even let it pass.

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Some say it's politically motivated retaliation, while others believe it's a way to economically target a country that, under its current government, has been favoring dictatorships and communists, attacking freedom of expression, and going after American companies, especially those in the tech sector. So, what do you think about this?
Brazil is not a dictatorship country but the country is part of BRICS, so United States will be referring to Brazil getting closer to countries like China, Russia and Iran which are part of BRICS countries. Trump is doing this after the BRICS summit which was just held last week in Brazil. I think United States does not need to be hostile Brazil like this.
Every action Trump takes is aimed at maintaining his dollar hegemony. It's perfectly normal for the dollar to see the Brics' holding of reserves and the detailed development of their economies as a threat. Don't these countries discuss alternatives to the dollar at every Brics meeting? They do so every time.

Brazil will not remain silent in the face of this tax increase and will raise taxes in Brazil in response. Simultaneous trade wars with numerous countries are damaging US relations with its allies and will further damage them. The US's involvement in trade wars, economic protectionism, and attempts to maintain dollar hegemony don't appear to be going well for Trump at the moment.


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Some say it's politically motivated retaliation, while others believe it's a way to economically target a country that, under its current government, has been favoring dictatorships and communists, attacking freedom of expression, and going after American companies, especially those in the tech sector. So, what do you think about this?
Brazil is not a dictatorship country but the country is part of BRICS, so United States will be referring to Brazil getting closer to countries like China, Russia and Iran which are part of BRICS countries. Trump is doing this after the BRICS summit which was just held last week in Brazil. I think United States does not need to be hostile Brazil like this.

Brazil has recently been living in a state that's almost a dictatorship, but one led by the judiciary, which manages to make various maneuvers in favor of political spectrums that suit its interests. A clear example of this was the maneuver to release the current president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, who had been convicted of corruption but had his case reset to zero through judicial actions. It's sad to see what's happening.

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Brazil has recently been living in a state that's almost a dictatorship, but one led by the judiciary, which manages to make various maneuvers in favor of political spectrums that suit its interests. A clear example of this was the maneuver to release the current president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, who had been convicted of corruption but had his case reset to zero through judicial actions. It's sad to see what's happening.

Brazil is in a very delicate situation
I don't know exactly how you people in other countries are seeing the news about what's happening here, but I can assure you that the economy is not good
The government is putting a LOT of taxes on the population, a lot of them, and the whole government system is running out of money. You can tell there's something wrong
The population is suffering because entrepreneurs can't cope with so many taxes

Unfortunately, it's also become a fight between two sides, the left and the right
Many meetings are already being held here to postpone the 50% tariff, as various sectors are already worried about the damage it will cause

 
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There aren't good guys on this story. It's a 'bang bang' between tyranical authorities inside and now, outside the country as well. Trump claimed to be protecting the interests of his ally and ex-president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, who is possibly going to jail anytime soon.

So, in order to blackmail brazilian judiciary and government, he is imposing such taxes against the country. Of course it's the average citizen who is going to afford the nasty consequences of this confrontation, and never the authorities involved on it, being them sided to the left or to the right.

Ironically, the biggest supporters of Trump and Bolsonaro in Brazil, the called "agro" (agribusiness), is going to be the main prejudiced by the taxes on short run.

There is nothing I can do about it, therefore, I'm not going to worry about this bullshit at all. I will just try to live and thrive as usual, despite the chaos going on around.

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It looks like things are heating up between the USA and Brazil
Now the US is investigating Brazil over trade practices



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The investigation will focus on digital trade and electronic payment services, preferential tariffs, and anti-corruption interference, as well as intellectual property protection, to determine whether there are “unreasonable or discriminatory and burden or restrict” American commerce, according to a statement by the United States Trade Representative (USTR).

It will also look into ethanol market access and illegal deforestation.
Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/16/business/us-probe-brazils-trade-practices

It looks like it's going to get more serious from now on and could even make tariffs worse

 
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Some say it's politically motivated retaliation, while others believe it's a way to economically target a country that, under its current government, has been favoring dictatorships and communists, attacking freedom of expression, and going after American companies, especially those in the tech sector. So, what do you think about this?
Brazil is not a dictatorship country but the country is part of BRICS, so United States will be referring to Brazil getting closer to countries like China, Russia and Iran which are part of BRICS countries. Trump is doing this after the BRICS summit which was just held last week in Brazil. I think United States does not need to be hostile Brazil like this.

Well, they already became hostile on this matter with what they did in Brazil, only in our country the tax imposed is 20%, which is already high in our country and even 50% seems inhumane to do to a country. I don't know what the US wants to show.

That's why honestly, I'm no longer in favor of the nonsense that Trump is doing, because it seems like what I'm used to is that there is abuse in other countries just to show them
and make them feel which side they should be on, in reality.

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July 16, 2025, 01:49:30 PM
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It looks like things are heating up between the USA and Brazil
Now the US is investigating Brazil over trade practices



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The investigation will focus on digital trade and electronic payment services, preferential tariffs, and anti-corruption interference, as well as intellectual property protection, to determine whether there are “unreasonable or discriminatory and burden or restrict” American commerce, according to a statement by the United States Trade Representative (USTR).

It will also look into ethanol market access and illegal deforestation.
Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/16/business/us-probe-brazils-trade-practices

It looks like it's going to get more serious from now on and could even make tariffs worse

There will be more news like this in the media soon as this is a familiar move by the US whenever they target someone. But unfortunately, this move will not work because there is no trade deficit between the US and Brazil, nor are they Brazil's largest trading partner.

Increasing tariffs or escalating tensions will only hurt both countries, and the people of both countries will bear the full consequences.
Brazil certainly will not give in because they are a country with a trade deficit with the US, not the other way around, so they have no reason to give in to unreasonable US pressure.

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