Tariffs as a weapon to stop Russia from the Ukraine-Russia war.

[icebar]

Recently, Trump threat to Russia to stop the war (Ukraine-Russia) with in 50 days. Trump threatened them that if they cannot reach an agreement to stop the war within this period, then 100% tariffs will be imposed on their products. The important thing now is how much this tariff will affect Russia. We know that since the war started, Russia has been restricted in various ways and there are also bans on the export of several of their products. If again 100% tariff is imposed on this country, will it have any effect on stopping the war?

In 2024, Russia's total trade was about $3 billion. Whereas in 2021, US imports from Russia were $29 billion. Now, if 100% trade tariffs were imposed on $3 billion trade, would Russia take it seriously ‍and stop the war?

[paxmao]

Recently, Trump threat to Russia to stop the war (Ukraine-Russia) with in 50 days. Trump threatened them that if they cannot reach an agreement to stop the war within this period, then 100% tariffs will be imposed on their products. The important thing now is how much this tariff will affect Russia. We know that since the war started, Russia has been restricted in various ways and there are also bans on the export of several of their products. If again 100% tariff is imposed on this country, will it have any effect on stopping the war?

In 2024, Russia's total trade was about $3 billion. Whereas in 2021, US imports from Russia were $29 billion. Now, if 100% trade tariffs were imposed on $3 billion trade, would Russia take it seriously ‍and stop the war?

You would need to have a look at WHAT does the US import from Ruzzia. For example, It is largely irrelevant if you put tariffs on Ruzzian oil because the market is global and someone else buys (and thanks you for the discount), if you put it on agricultural products... same, Ruzzia sells to others...

And guess what... one of the major imports are fertilisers and Trump cannot afford to have the agricultural sector of the US against him due to higher prices.

The strategy to put economic pressure is quite difficult unless you are willing to harm yourself in the process.

[BADecker]

Recently, Trump threat to Russia to stop the war (Ukraine-Russia) with in 50 days. Trump threatened them that if they cannot reach an agreement to stop the war within this period, then 100% tariffs will be imposed on their products. The important thing now is how much this tariff will affect Russia. We know that since the war started, Russia has been restricted in various ways and there are also bans on the export of several of their products. If again 100% tariff is imposed on this country, will it have any effect on stopping the war?

In 2024, Russia's total trade was about $3 billion. Whereas in 2021, US imports from Russia were $29 billion. Now, if 100% trade tariffs were imposed on $3 billion trade, would Russia take it seriously ‍and stop the war?

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You would need to have a look at WHAT does the US import from Ruzzia. For example, It is largely irrelevant if you put tariffs on Ruzzian oil because the market is global and someone else buys (and thanks you for the discount), if you put it on agricultural products... same, Ruzzia sells to others...

And guess what... one of the major imports are fertilisers and Trump cannot afford to have the agricultural sector of the US against him due to higher prices.

The strategy to put economic pressure is quite difficult unless you are willing to harm yourself in the process.

But the important part is that many countries often export oil to the US after they have purchased it from Russia.

[Zlantann]

Recently, Trump threat to Russia to stop the war (Ukraine-Russia) with in 50 days. Trump threatened them that if they cannot reach an agreement to stop the war within this period, then 100% tariffs will be imposed on their products. The important thing now is how much this tariff will affect Russia. We know that since the war started, Russia has been restricted in various ways and there are also bans on the export of several of their products. If again 100% tariff is imposed on this country, will it have any effect on stopping the war?

Russia has successfully diversified its trade partnerships. Since the invasion of Ukraine, the US and some European nations have placed several sanctions on Russia. There was a time it was predicted that the Russian economy might collapse in less than one year of fighting due to the sanctions placed on them.

But Putin has successfully sought different trading partners who buy Russian oil and gas at a discounted price. Some countries are also helping them bypass these sanctions by serving as middlemen between Russia and other nations. To the best of my knowledge, US tariffs might not harm the Russian economy to the extent that Putin will plead for a ceasefire.

[Hispo]

I doubt tariffs from the United States against the Russian Federation will be about to convince Putin to reach a peace agreement on the war against Ukraine.
Let us remember Russia has several trading partners, it is not only the United States, the main trading partner of Russia are those giant Asian countries which have become dependant of their energy and are willing to buy their national products, the best examples are India and China.

This will further isolate the Russian economy, but it won't be enough for Putin to stop wagering war against Ukraine, it would take China and India to align with the interests of the United States for something like this to work as intended, in my opinion.

[EluguHcman]

Recently, Trump threat to Russia to stop the war (Ukraine-Russia) with in 50 days. Trump threatened them that if they cannot reach an agreement to stop the war within this period, then 100% tariffs will be imposed on their products. The important thing now is how much this tariff will affect Russia. We know that since the war started, Russia has been restricted in various ways and there are also bans on the export of several of their products. If again 100% tariff is imposed on this country, will it have any effect on stopping the war?

In 2024, Russia's total trade was about $3 billion. Whereas in 2021, US imports from Russia were $29 billion. Now, if 100% trade tariffs were imposed on $3 billion trade, would Russia take it seriously ‍and stop the war?

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/07/14/UAwozj.jpeg

You would need to have a look at WHAT does the US import from Ruzzia. For example, It is largely irrelevant if you put tariffs on Ruzzian oil because the market is global and someone else buys (and thanks you for the discount), if you put it on agricultural products... same, Ruzzia sells to others...

And guess what... one of the major imports are fertilisers and Trump cannot afford to have the agricultural sector of the US against him due to higher prices.

The strategy to put economic pressure is quite difficult unless you are willing to harm yourself in the process.

But the important part is that many countries often export oil to the US after they have purchased it from Russia.

I guess it is the other side reason why @paxmao said unless Trump also want to harm himself and that of the entire US sectors in demands or in need of the Russian products.
So if increase of tarrif is imposed on the Russians then it would spike market price increase of the Russians.

So when other countries buys, they will be buying on a very high price which when supplying to the US will also affect them (US) because vendors also have to make profits regardless that they bought in a very high price due to the influence of the Trumps tarrif system.
So directly and indirectly since Russians do have global essential productions, the aggression of the 100% imposed tarrif will also affect the global markets.

Trump should better think twice before he put the global market on high pressure.
Let us also be realistic and logical, if Russian is forced to end the war without a dialogue to settle the disputes with Ukraine, i fear because Russia might have no option than to use their nuclear weapon because it seems Trump tends to manipulate their economy so that they won't be sufficient in funding the continuity of the war.

[Ucy]

That would depend on whether the real reason for the conflict is addressed.. If Russia, people of Donbas and others are nolonger under threats, ofcourse it would work. Otherwise they will be immuned from any tarrif war while it may backfire. "May" is used here because the economy of USA was foretold to be better.

[LTU_btc]

In 3.5 years of war we already learned that sanctions don't work or at least don't have such big effect as they wanted. Russia is already probably most sanctioned country in the world and so what? Did it stopped them.
As you already noted, direct trade between Russia and USA was just $3 billions, what is nothing. They already know how to bypass sanctions by importing/exporting stuff through 3rd countries like Kazakhstand.
Maybe if Trump impose 100% tariffs to countries which has biggest trade with Russia, maybe it would have some impact, but not game changer. Now I see these tariffs and another 50 days as another tool for pressure which will end without any result, same like Trump was doing with China or EU

[BADecker]

Now is probably the best time to set up trade with Russia, between its Siberian borders, and whatever countries that border Siberia.

[icebar]

Recently, Trump threat to Russia to stop the war (Ukraine-Russia) with in 50 days. Trump threatened them that if they cannot reach an agreement to stop the war within this period, then 100% tariffs will be imposed on their products. The important thing now is how much this tariff will affect Russia. We know that since the war started, Russia has been restricted in various ways and there are also bans on the export of several of their products. If again 100% tariff is imposed on this country, will it have any effect on stopping the war?

In 2024, Russia's total trade was about $3 billion. Whereas in 2021, US imports from Russia were $29 billion. Now, if 100% trade tariffs were imposed on $3 billion trade, would Russia take it seriously ‍and stop the war?

You would need to have a look at WHAT does the US import from Ruzzia. For example, It is largely irrelevant if you put tariffs on Ruzzian oil because the market is global and someone else buys (and thanks you for the discount), if you put it on agricultural products... same, Ruzzia sells to others...

And guess what... one of the major imports are fertilisers and Trump cannot afford to have the agricultural sector of the US against him due to higher prices.

The strategy to put economic pressure is quite difficult unless you are willing to harm yourself in the process.

This year, the US has imported about $2.1 billion from Russia until May. These products included uranium, fertilizers, palladium, aluminum and platinum. And if the US imposes tariffs on these products, then America will definitely lose. Because Russia will try to export these products to other countries. If the country can export those to other countries with some concessions, then their profit will cover their loss, but America will definitely suffer.

Russia has been going through various types of restrictions for a long time. I think it is possible to stop them by imposing more sanctions. However, now it would be better to sit down with Putin and discuss it rationally. The same strategy that Trump is trying to weaken everyone with tariffs against other countries will never be important if it is used against Russia. Rather, it may prove that he has failed to stop this war.

[franky1]

I doubt tariffs from the United States against the Russian Federation will be about to convince Putin to reach a peace agreement on the war against Ukraine.
Let us remember Russia has several trading partners, it is not only the United States, the main trading partner of Russia are those giant Asian countries which have become dependant of their energy and are willing to buy their national products, the best examples are India and China.

This will further isolate the Russian economy, but it won't be enough for Putin to stop wagering war against Ukraine, it would take China and India to align with the interests of the United States for something like this to work as intended, in my opinion.

part of trumps plan is not really about raising tariffs on russia because russia is already on sanctions where US business dont/cant trade with russia.. the real plan is to raise tariffs on other countries that do trade with russia, where they will only get the new tariffs dropped if they stop trading with russia

[DaRude]

I doubt tariffs from the United States against the Russian Federation will be about to convince Putin to reach a peace agreement on the war against Ukraine.
Let us remember Russia has several trading partners, it is not only the United States, the main trading partner of Russia are those giant Asian countries which have become dependant of their energy and are willing to buy their national products, the best examples are India and China.

This will further isolate the Russian economy, but it won't be enough for Putin to stop wagering war against Ukraine, it would take China and India to align with the interests of the United States for something like this to work as intended, in my opinion.

part of trumps plan is not really about raising tariffs on russia because russia is already on sanctions where US business dont/cant trade with russia.. the real plan is to raise tariffs on other countries that do trade with russia, where they will only get the new tariffs dropped if they stop trading with russia

First of all, sanctions are worse than tariffs, that's why Iran Russia get sanctions and EU tariffs. Everything that disproportionately hurts Russia more than US/EU has already been applied in the last 3+yrs and 17? EU sanction packages (and counting). If anyone claims that there's some miracle way to pressure Putin to negotiate, they first need to explain why wasn't it applied 3yrs ago. By definition, whatever little trade US has not yet sanctioned and that tariffs can be applied on, is what's least beneficial to Russia and most beneficial to the US.

When you pressure Russia to sell their exports at a discount, news outlets like to concentrate on how many potential trillions Russia has lost. But critical thinking should ask who received and benefited from those trillions in discounts, and the simple answer is that these sanctions are essentially subsidizing China, providing them discount on raw materials. Thus the question becomes, even if it was possible, at what cost to US/EU and then how smart it is to provide China with even bigger discounts?

As for touted secondary sanctions, those only work for countries under your sphere of influence. Sure US can tell EU to shoot itself in another foot, but fundamentally, Russia and China (BRICS+) see Ukraine as western expansionism. Meaning, if US had so much leverage that it could force China to stop accepting discounted resources from Russia (without a [proxy] war with China first) then it's already game over for China and we essentially have a one world government (is that really something we should strive for?). Translation, China would rather collapse than let US set such precedent (because then it can forget about any of it's interests and ambitions, Taiwan etc...).

Edit: Any claims that China would just peacefully let the west expand into Ukraine (thus taking Russia out as a global power) and then control how China can trade with Russia, without a fight, is either fundamentally misunderstanding the world geopolitics or just spreading propaganda to start a war.

China has vowed to deepen its support for Russia after Donald Trump threatened to impose tariffs on Moscow’s trading partners.

Xi Jinping, China’s president, said that Beijing and Moscow should “strengthen mutual support on multilateral forums” after meeting Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov in Beijing.

He added that trust between China and Russia had “deepened”, and the two states were “setting a model for a new type of international relations”.

On Monday, a frustrated Mr Trump threatened to hit Russia’s main trading partners, including China, with 100 per cent tariffs if Putin does not sign a peace deal in 50 days. He also announced plans to sell billions of dollars of weapons to Ukraine via members of the Nato alliance, including the UK, France and Germany.

Mr Trump’s threat raises the stakes by essentially putting China’s economic future on the line, potentially forcing Beijing to choose between domestic growth or sticking alongside its strategic partner, Russia.

China responded to Mr Trump‘s threat by saying it “firmly opposed all illegal unilateral sanctions” by the US.

The US and China have already been engaged in a tit-for-tat trade war since Mr Trump took office for his second term in January, with both sides hiking tariffs to more than 100 per cent at one point before finally dialling down tensions to reach some temporary consensus.

Beijing, a diplomatic and economic ally of Moscow, claims to be neutral in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. But according to leaked reports of a meeting with EU officials, China’s foreign minister said in unguarded comments last month that it cannot afford for Russia to lose the war because it fears Washington would then shift its focus to Beijing.

We're at the point where scales are even, there are no more free moves. and for every action there will be a counteraction. It's just the question of how far Trump wants to escalate this over Ukraine, Russia's and China's counteractions can be predicted with a good amount of certainty.

[LTU_btc]

Russia has been going through various types of restrictions for a long time. I think it is possible to stop them by imposing more sanctions. However, now it would be better to sit down with Putin and discuss it rationally. The same strategy that Trump is trying to weaken everyone with tariffs against other countries will never be important if it is used against Russia. Rather, it may prove that he has failed to stop this war.

Imposing more sanctions on Russia would make sense if there wouldn't be any ways how to bypass it. Now Russia by far is the most sanctioned country in the world. But they aren't struggling that muc because they find ways how to bypass it.
Sit down and discuss rationally with Russia and Puting? How exactly you imagine it? Trump is tring to do something, but even he is starting to open his eyes that talks doesn't gives any result.

[o48o]

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part of trumps plan is not really about raising tariffs on russia because russia is already on sanctions where US business dont/cant trade with russia.. the real plan is to raise tariffs on other countries that do trade with russia, where they will only get the new tariffs dropped if they stop trading with russia

Where you are getting this from? Because it's not his plan, in fact he is actually opposed that, and wants to use his weaker tariffs. Man is just obsessed with the word "tariff" and afraid that everyone else seems to be more tough then him and this is just one example of it.

There's no real plan other then distraction from Epstein list. And Epstein list didn't kill itself.

[franky1]

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part of trumps plan is not really about raising tariffs on russia because russia is already on sanctions where US business dont/cant trade with russia.. the real plan is to raise tariffs on other countries that do trade with russia, where they will only get the new tariffs dropped if they stop trading with russia

Where you are getting this from?

google this: 'U.S. would impose 100% tariffs on countries that buy Russian oil'
multiple sources(very public information) pick one

as for sanctions
sanctions already(for years now) prevent US businesses trading with russia. so there would be no opportunity to tag on extra tariffs on us imports from russia, because no goods are coming in from russia.. so while sanctions are in place tariffs on russian goods coming to america are useless.. thats why he wants to put additional tariffs on other countries goods coming to the US, if those countries also trade oil with russia..
its much the same as putting additional tariffs on canada/mexico if canada/mexico also had side deals with chinas fentanyl ingredients

Where you are getting this from? Because it's not his plan, in fact he is actually opposed that, and wants to use his weaker tariffs. Man is just obsessed with the word "tariff" and afraid that everyone else seems to be more tough then him and this is just one example of it.

your kidding right
trump WAS willing to engage in relaxing sanctions on russia directly If russia came to peace over a month ago when russia/ukraine showed willingness to negotiate directly.. meaning if peace was found the sanctions would relax as a reward..
however thats over a month ago... things/emotions have changed.. trump has switched gears since then

as for tariffs
also the smart plan is not to start super high(500%), as the only direction then is to back peddle. so part of the plan is to start at 100% and then work upto 500% if things dont change. so thats why he wants to start at 100% additional tariff for other countries trading with russia. and 100% is not weak, because he is not going to start at like 5%(weak) additional tariff to countries trading with russia. he sees 100% as a significant and provoking enough amount to get the ball rolling

[BADecker]

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part of trumps plan is not really about raising tariffs on russia because russia is already on sanctions where US business dont/cant trade with russia.. the real plan is to raise tariffs on other countries that do trade with russia, where they will only get the new tariffs dropped if they stop trading with russia

Where you are getting this from?

google this: 'U.S. would impose 100% tariffs on countries that buy Russian oil'
multiple sources(very public information) pick one

as for sanctions
sanctions already(for years now) prevent US businesses trading with russia. so there would be no opportunity to tag on extra tariffs on us imports from russia, because no goods are coming in from russia.. so while sanctions are in place tariffs on russian goods coming to america are useless.. thats why he wants to put additional tariffs on other countries goods coming to the US, if those countries also trade oil with russia..
its much the same as putting additional tariffs on canada/mexico if canada/mexico also had side deals with chinas fentanyl ingredients

Where you are getting this from? Because it's not his plan, in fact he is actually opposed that, and wants to use his weaker tariffs. Man is just obsessed with the word "tariff" and afraid that everyone else seems to be more tough then him and this is just one example of it.

your kidding right
trump WAS willing to engage in relaxing sanctions on russia directly If russia came to peace over a month ago when russia/ukraine showed willingness to negotiate directly.. meaning if peace was found the sanctions would relax as a reward..
however thats over a month ago... things/emotions have changed.. trump has switched gears since then

as for tariffs
also the smart plan is not to start super high(500%), as the only direction then is to back peddle. so part of the plan is to start at 100% and then work upto 500% if things dont change. so thats why he wants to start at 100% additional tariff for other countries trading with russia. and 100% is not weak, because he is not going to start at like 5%(weak) additional tariff to countries trading with russia. he sees 100% as a significant and provoking enough amount to get the ball rolling

Trump is faulty in one tariff area. If he truly wanted MAGA, he would go straight to 10,000% tariffs... or maybe 1-million percent.

[DaRude]

Interesting how Trump plays this, by constantly flip flopping he's providing enough content for all sides. Everyone can pick something that will support their narrative. Trump said this, yeah but this was a month ago now he said this, yeah but he said that last week, today he is saying this...

But seemingly catering to everyone only works for PR, uncertainty is clearly a downgrade from a stable strategic partner "for as long as it takes".